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A Wiki For Cable and Connector Pin-Outs

kdawson posted more than 5 years ago | from the admit-it-you-read-pin-ups dept.

Hardware Hacking 107

Nicola Asuni writes to let us know about a new resource for hardware hackers: a wiki about pinouts — hardware interfaces of modern and obsolete hardware. "Created with the same MediaWiki software that was developed for the Wikipedia project, AllPinouts.org is a wiki that allows users to get and share information about hardware interfaces, including pinouts of ports, expansion slots, and other connectors of computers and different electronic devices (i.e. cellular phones, GPS, PDA, game consoles, etc.). All text is available under the GNU Free Documentation License and may be distributed or linked accordingly. The 'pinout' (or 'pin-out') of a connector identifies each individual pin, which is critical when creating, repairing or hacking cable assemblies and adapters."

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Yay! (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28436287)

About time. I've been hoping someone with some bandwidth to spare would be kind enough to collect all of this information in one place for us hackers. We appreciate it! Thanks!

Captcha: mischief

Re:Yay! (5, Funny)

Spad (470073) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436517)

...someone with some bandwidth to spare...

Not any more, it would appear...

Re:Yay! (1, Offtopic)

morghanphoenix (1070832) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436553)

Really, slashdot should mirror sites linked to, so many of them can't handle the extra traffic.

Re:Yay! (1)

Canazza (1428553) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436569)

yes, ofcourse, it should mirror an entire wiki...

Re:Yay! (3, Interesting)

morghanphoenix (1070832) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436631)

Nope, just the front page. How many people click through past that anyway? Probably less than usually RTFA, so there should be no problem, yes?

Re:Yay! (1)

memojuez (910304) | more than 5 years ago | (#28439611)

Chrome gave me the option to pull up Google's Cache of the site

http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:http://www.allpinouts.org/

Coral Cache (1)

jdfox (74524) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437357)

...is working [nyud.net] for this site, but latest cached content is 18 weeks old. [nyud.net]

Doh (1)

jdfox (74524) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437407)

No it's not. Wrong site, sorry. And the right URL isn't cached yet [nyud.net] .

Third time lucky (2, Informative)

jdfox (74524) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437481)

(Facepalm) Yes, it is Coral Cached [nyud.net] , and latest cached content is about a month old [nyud.net] .

And I'm just off to find some caffeine now. That is all, thank you.

Re:Yay! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28438649)

AllPinouts.org is down
AllPinouts.com is down too

does that site really exist?

Re:Yay! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28439213)

I think when Slashdot's DoS stops this will be a very useful website.

Re:Yay! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28439869)

OP AC here.

Sometimes first post has it's advantages...

Re:Yay! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28441445)

http://www.allpinouts.org is now online.

Re:Yay! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28436793)

They should've just made the pages on wikipedia.

Re:Yay! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28436939)

Yeah, sure, then they can spend the rest of their time fighting asshats and idiots who keep trying to make incorrect changes, ask for citations on stuff that doesn't fucking need one and attempts to get the articles deleted as "Not notable". I'm sure that'd be fun.

Wikia is better (2, Informative)

Sxerks (310435) | more than 5 years ago | (#28438639)

If you are going to make a mediawiki site use Wikia.com, all of the extra stuff that "doesn't belong" on wikipedia ends up there.

these are available:
pinout.wikia.com
pinouts.wikia.com
allpinouts.wikia.com

and any pagesyou have already made can be easily imported.

Re:Yay! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28441361)

Incorrect changes are extremely easy to correct. If you are dealing with facts instead of "truthyness" then it's extremely easy to cite sources. And an article about your uncle joe's dog isn't notable and therefore should not be included in an encyclopedia. If you are complaining about those then it's a good sign you have this knack for trying to add errors to wikipedia that you believe are truth because "it feels right", not to mention an appalling idea of what the scientific method is.

Re:Yay! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28441887)

If you are dealing with facts...

Whoa, hold it right there cowboy! Who told you these were "facts"? Oh you found the pinouts using a multimeter, yourself?! ORIGINAL RESEARCH, BURN HIM!

an article about your uncle joe's dog isn't notable

I'm sure the hordes of deletion asshats would find an article on the pinout diagram of the ETF71A/F bus cable totally notable.

not to mention an appalling idea of what the scientific method is.

I'm sorry, did you just try to claim Wikipedia is some sort of science? Oh God...

WikiBooks (1)

krischik (781389) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437257)

WikiBooks would probably more appropriate.

Re:Yay! (1)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 5 years ago | (#28445571)

It would have been deleted as primary research.

Re:Yay! (-1, Troll)

tach315 (223127) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437277)

Thanks Assholes. This was a great site THAT I NEEDED TO USE TODAY! AND NOW IT'S FUCKING SLASH DOTED. look, why is this on slashdot at all.A true DIYer would just Google "pinouts." Now their bandwidth is most likely used up for the month. This is it I am about two steps away from going cold turkey slashdot, it really has gone downhill. cmdtaco if you have not been replaced by robots WTF is going on.

Already been done . . . (4, Informative)

wooferhound (546132) | more than 5 years ago | (#28438747)

> been hoping someone with some bandwidth to spare would be kind enough
> to collect all of this information in one place

I've been using the pinouts from these 2 websites for too many years
http://www.hardwarebook.info/Category:Connector [hardwarebook.info]
http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/Main_Page [allpinouts.org]

Re:Already been done . . . (1)

mattack2 (1165421) | more than 5 years ago | (#28443591)

allpinouts.org == allpinouts.com, so your second link is the one the submission is about.

Re:Yay! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28440805)

just go to http://pinouts.ru

Looks promising (5, Informative)

atilla filiz (1402809) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436291)

pinouts.ru was the first place i look for pinouts. this wiki looks promising, as it has long lists of commercial gadgets.

Re:Looks promising (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28436361)

Not anymore.

Thanks /.

Re:Looks promising (5, Informative)

tttonyyy (726776) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436429)

http://www.hardwarebook.info/ [hardwarebook.info] has been around for a very long time and has huge numbers of pinouts and cable diagrams.

Re:Looks promising (4, Informative)

psergiu (67614) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436603)

Mod Parent Up

Debian users can also apt-get install hwb

Re:Looks promising (0, Redundant)

JAlexoi (1085785) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437767)

Slashdotted!

Re:Looks promising (0, Flamebait)

CarpetShark (865376) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436823)

http://www.hardwarebook.info/ has been around for a very long time

Never let reality get in the way of a good slashvertisement.

Re:Looks promising (0, Offtopic)

Atzanteol (99067) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437167)

I know it's "cool" to make fun of Slashdot and all, but how is this a slashvertisement? It's a free wiki with no ads.

Re:Looks promising (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28437869)

a) not slashvert, and b) poster's slashdot ID (726776) is much older than yours (865376).

just sayin'. /cf

Re:Looks promising (1)

bitsmith (841565) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437271)

Yes, but they did not answer to any of my emails regarding pinout corrections.

Thus, I greatly welcome our new, wiki-styled pinuot overlord! :-)

Re:Looks promising (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437671)

...which will block all relevant pages for everyone but the admins, because of "vandalism" (meaning someone disagrees with the admins' world view.)

Re:Looks promising (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437401)

Does it include things other than consumer electronics, too? I'd like to be able to look up stuff like ODB2 (on-board diagnostics, for vehicles).

Re:Looks promising (2, Interesting)

twistedsymphony (956982) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437553)

that looks like a nice resource but it has nothing for automotive connectors.... the site in TFA does, which I found to be a pleasant surprise since there is FAR FAR less standardization in the automotive realm than there is with computers, audio equipment or even video game consoles... compound with the fact that most auto guys seem to HATE wiring if and when you do find some information its written by someone who doesnt understand how to document these kinds of things appropriately.

Not that this wiki has the deepest list of automotive pinouts I've ever seen but it's got a nice list of PCM/ECU pinouts which is a great start.

/.ed (-1, Offtopic)

WillKemp (1338605) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436315)

It's slashdotted already!

Re:/.ed (4, Interesting)

Greger47 (516305) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436367)

You can find plenty of pinouts on http://www.hardwarebook.info/ [hardwarebook.info] while you wait for the storm to settle.

/greger

Re:/.ed (-1, Offtopic)

psergiu (67614) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436611)

Mod Parent Up

HwB had all the pinouts you would need since the last century.

Re:/.ed (1)

twistedsymphony (956982) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437571)

it doesn't have any automotive pinouts, which is the aspect that really excites me about the TFA.

Re:/.ed (2, Informative)

Andy Dodd (701) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437761)

Either the firewall I'm behind doesn't like HWB, or the storm has moved there too.

Re:/.ed (1, Offtopic)

adolf (21054) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436369)

/.ed? Feh. It's still working for me.

It looks like something that might, someday, become a useful resource. But: I find it annoying that the wiki doesn't allow anonymous edits. Creating a bar which folks must jump over before contributing (even if it's as simple as creating an account) does not foster creativity, nor does it encourage folks who might otherwise feel constrained by NDA to post a particular pinout.

To whomever it is who is responsible for this wiki (and I know you'll be reading this, once you wake up and your server is on fire after its slashdotting has fully taken hold): Please enable anonymous edits. I fix all kinds of things on Wikipedia anonymously, because I can't be bothered to log in just to reconstruct a difficult-to-read paragraph, fix a simple error, or add a descriptive link. I'd like to think that you'd want folks like me doing this on your pinout wiki.

Re:/.ed (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28437131)

Creating a bar which folks must jump over before contributing...does not foster creativity

No, but as John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory shows, and is embodied by places such as 4chan: Anonymous + Audience = Fuckwad. Anonymous edits of a Wiki are a terrible idea, because you will get vandalism. If you can't be bothered to jump the (very low) bar, then it's likely your contribution wouldn't be that great in any case.

nor does it encourage folks who might otherwise feel constrained by NDA to post a particular pinout.

They can register an account with untraceable details quite easily.

Re:/.ed (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28439859)

No, but as John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory shows, and is embodied by places such as 4chan: Anonymous + Audience = Fuckwad.

I know you are, but what am I?

Re:/.ed (0, Flamebait)

adolf (21054) | more than 5 years ago | (#28442529)

Right. So, since you're anonymous, and you've got an audience, I should just assume that you're a fuckwad with nothing to contribute anyway.

Thanks for that, fuckwad. I couldn't have discredited you any better than you already have.

A couple of points (pins!?) (1)

Linker3000 (626634) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436331)

1) There's been pinout sites for as long as I can remember - I can recall using one a serious amount of time ago to help me interface some kit to a serial multiplexer, but all the merrier I suppose.
2) How long before some manufacturer claims their pinouts are proprietary/trade secret/patented/act of god and slaps a takedown order on their info?

Re:A couple of points (pins!?) (2, Insightful)

Techman83 (949264) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436351)

They might be other sites around, but I've had difficulty in the past finding pinouts, let alone ones that were correct. Most I found tended to be fairly inconsistent in the way things were laid out. If it proves to be as good a resource as wikipedia it's a step in the right direction IMO.

Re:A couple of points (pins!?) (5, Insightful)

adolf (21054) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436407)

The real strength of something like this (versus various otherwise-great resources such as pinouts.ru [pinouts.ru] is that once you've accomplished the difficult task of locating, implementing, and verifying a pinout, you can just go ahead and post your results so that the rest of the world doesn't have to duplicate your effort.

Please don't treat wikis as just a resource to be consumed. Don't assume that someone, somewhere, is tending the light at the end of the tunnel. Contribute what you learn.

Re:A couple of points (pins!?) (1)

Linker3000 (626634) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436587)

That's a very good point.

Re:A couple of points (pins!?) (1)

PuercoPop (1007467) | more than 5 years ago | (#28439201)

well http://www.hardwarebook.info/ [hardwarebook.info] is a wiki also and already has lots of information...

Re:A couple of points (pins!?) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28437383)

Hmm.. IBM, 1972, Telex, Memorex, Plug Compatible Manufacturers, etc. IBM anti-trust lawsuit, document management systems

been there, done that, etc.

Re:A couple of points (pins!?) (1)

damien_kane (519267) | more than 5 years ago | (#28439835)

2) How long before some manufacturer claims their pinouts are proprietary/trade secret/patented/act of god and slaps a takedown order on their info?

What, like Apple's iPod dock connector?
It's proprietary/trademarked such that they can license the ability for 3rd-party vendors (Belkin, Griffin, etc) to create accessories, instead of everyone and their gecko flooding the market with cheap knock-offs.
This, of course, hasn't stopped everyone and their gecko [who live in countries which do not accept those patents] from releasing 4th-rate 3rd-party accessories, but the SNR is much lower in this case.

I'm pretty sure you can find pinout info for the iPod dock anyways (or just reverse engineer it yourself). In the case of the iPod, though, it's not necessarily the pinout that will net you a decent chunk of change, it's the protocol used over the data pins.

Why not put this Wikipedia? (0)

Pascal Sartoretti (454385) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436383)

I see no reason to have a separate Wiki for this. Besides, my first attempt to connect to "allpinouts.org" resulted in an error message....

Re:Why not put this Wikipedia? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28436439)

I agree, but ... the deletionists would go ballistic and start screaming "its unencyclopedic".

Apart from that, wikipedia probably would not accept a reverse engineered pinout, on the basis of lack of sources.

Re:Why not put this Wikipedia? (2, Funny)

Pascal Sartoretti (454385) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436511)

I agree, but ... the deletionists would go ballistic and start screaming "its unencyclopedic".

There are far worse unencyclopedic things in Wikipedia, e.g. this [wikipedia.org] .

Because Wikipedia is not ... (3, Informative)

Norsefire (1494323) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436459)

* an indiscriminate collection of information [wikipedia.org]
* an Instruction manual [wikipedia.org]
and everything must be backed up with reliable sources [wikipedia.org] .
There is also no way to format the information in a Wikipedia-esque fashion that makes it as easy to find like on this site (when it comes up back up).

Re:Because Wikipedia is not ... (1)

Pascal Sartoretti (454385) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436563)

an indiscriminate collection of information
an Instruction manual


I looked at both of these, and none of the (bad) cases they list apply to documenting hardware. I often use Wikipedia's pages on Unicode encoding, do you also mean that they should be removed?

Unicode reference is in WikiBooks (1)

krischik (781389) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437319)

You might not have noticed - because of meetly done transparent linking - but most of the unicode reference is on WikiBooks. Wikibooks is far more permissive then Wikipedia.

Re:Because Wikipedia is not ... (1)

7 digits (986730) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437435)

> I looked at both of these, and none of the (bad) cases they list apply to documenting hardware.

So maybe you should read them again. From the very page linked by the grand-parent:

Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information => See Also Notability

General notability guideline => Topic have "Significant Coverage"

"Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, and no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than trivial but may be less than exclusive.[1]"

How can you argue that original research aiming at listing the connections of every obscure hardware connector under the sun should be in wikipedia ?

Btw, you say "I often use Wikipedia's pages on Unicode encoding, do you also mean that they should be removed?". Well, original poster never said or implied that Unicode had to be removed, and by doing so, you are using Schopenhauer's stratagem 24, the false syllogism (look it up, or read it at http://coolhaus.de/art-of-controversy/erist24.htm [coolhaus.de] ).

Re:Because Wikipedia is not ... (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437539)

Fight! Fight!

Sorry, I mean

Edit war! Edit war"

Wikibooks (1)

krischik (781389) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437295)

However there is Wikibooks where Instruction Manuals are permitted and reliable sources are not needed.

Re:Why not put this Wikipedia? (4, Interesting)

Another, completely (812244) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436469)

That's one reason writing content for the internet is more fun than writing it for a company: you don't have to argue about whether it's a good idea. You put it out there, you tell a few people about it, and it either works or it doesn't. If the Wikipedia content works out to be more complete and/or reliable, then I guess allpinouts.com won't last long; if people find it easier to locate the pinout for their vintage graphics tablet, or contributors find less hassle in uploading information, then it will probably become a trusted resource.

They do need to address scalability though. Still /.ed.

Re:Why not put this Wikipedia? (1)

jamesh (87723) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437111)

I see no reason to have a separate Wiki for this.

Well up until now, lack of a cite-able source would have been an objection - I don't think you can just add something to wikipedia that you figured out with a multimeter one night.

Now that we have allpinouts.com though, there is delicious source of sources to cite - put your multimeter derived findings on allpinouts.com, and then add it to wikipedia citing allpinouts.com as a source :)

That's what Wikia is for (2, Interesting)

Sxerks (310435) | more than 5 years ago | (#28440919)

"Wikia.com" for all the stuff you can't put on Wikipedia. - not an advert for them it's just true.

instantly slashdotted (1)

z_gringo (452163) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436391)

Well that cetainly sounds exciting. However, it was slashdotted as soon as it posted. Something like this would be very useful. I am surprised it wasn't done before now.

Re:instantly slashdotted (1)

Lisandro (799651) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437161)

It was - someone already mentioned Pinouts.ru [pinouts.ru] , for example. Still, it's a more than welcome adition. Searching for pinouts can be very frustrating sometimes, specially for discontinued hardware/parts.

Advertising (1)

Techman83 (949264) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436405)

Some of the advertising is in slightly annoying locations and I detest "Flashvertising" (flashblock saves my CPU cycles). Not to say I'm against advertising, just prefer it not to get in the way of what I'm trying to do. Marketers will say that it would defeat the purpose of advertising, but personally I'm more inclined to click on a link that is not so in my face then some big flashing neon sign saying I must absolutely try product X. I'll go as saying the subtle targeted advertising in my gmail account has actually pointed me towards products I may never have found or even thought of.

Re:Advertising (1)

pimp0r (1030222) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436923)

Actually text-based or otherwise less "ad-looking" ads are proven to be more effective in every way, but a lot of people with money still seem to think it is completely obvious that the louder their ad screams the more it will sell their product/service.
Just to not break with tradition and car analogies; Kind of like how another group of people think putting as many huge subwoofers as possible into their cars obviously makes their music system better.

Re:Advertising (0, Offtopic)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437117)

Just to not break with tradition and car analogies; Kind of like how another group of people think putting as many huge subwoofers as possible into their cars obviously makes their music system better.

More like how some people think that putting a comically large fart pipe silencer on will make their car go faster, when the disruption to the carefully-designed factory exhaust system drops about 10% of the power. Look up cam timing and exhaust back pressure to find out more.

Re:Advertising (0, Offtopic)

the_crowbar (149535) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437923)

The Honda cars are tuned for lower emissions first, better fuel economy second. Replacing the factory exhaust and also modifying the ECU (engine computer) can lead to more power. Most people who install one of those resonator exhaust tips have no idea what any of this means. They just like the sound. And don't forget that stickers add lots of horsepower as well.

Cheers,
the_crowbar

Re:Advertising (0, Offtopic)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 5 years ago | (#28438061)

Well, replacing the exhaust can only make the engine develop more power if you change the camshaft too. If you don't want to get your hands too dirty then you're better off just getting a remapped ECU ROM.

ROMs (1)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | more than 5 years ago | (#28439309)

There are no ROMs in my car.
The only chips in my car are in the stereo.
Yes, my car is probably older than you are.

Back on topic. Great idea for a site. Already bookmarked for when it is no longer slashdoted.

Re:ROMs (1)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 5 years ago | (#28439399)

Mmm, it's possible your car is older than me. Both of my cars are probably older than 90% of Slashdotters, and neither of them have much in the way of electronics. The newer ('88 Citroen CX) gives a nod to modern automotive electronics by having breakerless ignition. There's a digital clock, too, but that doesn't work.

I've driven my old diesel CX about 30 miles with no functioning electrics of any kind.

Re:ROMs (1)

fast turtle (1118037) | more than 5 years ago | (#28441021)

Heck neither my car or my van even have chips unless you count "paint chips" as both of them have no radio's

Re:Advertising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28438115)

No worse than the Harley guys who put loud pipes on their bikes in the mistaken belief it saves lives. Riding defensively and with the understanding that most drivers are so cocooned in their mobile living room that they don't think they need to actually drive.

A local Harley rider (with ear-splitting pipes) was killed over the weekend when a van made a left turn in front of him. So much for loud pipes.

Yes yes, troll, off topic.

Posting anonymously :p

A Harley Rider (with stock pipes)

Re:Advertising (0, Offtopic)

ckaminski (82854) | more than 5 years ago | (#28438803)

No, they just want to prove they're badasses. And when you pick a fight with one, they can't stand toe to toe with you on their own but summon their entire crew. Yes, yes, don't piss off the motorcycle riders, they have something to prove.

Unreachable.... (5, Funny)

tokyoahead (743189) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436417)

Ethernet plug not properly wired?

Re:Unreachable.... (1)

fm6 (162816) | more than 5 years ago | (#28439841)

Notice that the submitter's email address is info@allpinouts.org. Obviously he decided some self-promotion was in order, without considering his server's ability to handle the resulting traffic.

www.hardwarebook.info has been around... (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28436435)

...for about 10 years. (Yes, it moved to .info just recently.)

incorrect link (5, Informative)

imrehg (1187617) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436481)

It would well worth fixing the link... The article (and google) says www.allpinouts.org, while the link points to www.allpinouts.com... Anyway, it probably it got slashdotted without this already.

Hardware Book (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28436485)

Hardware Book is an old website, started more than 10 years ago. It was converted into a wiki a couple of years back.
You'll find most pinouts you need here.

http://www.hardwarebook.info/

fago8Z (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28436539)

a bSD box (a PIII

http://www.hardwarebook.info/ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28436627)

/.ed too

Already Slashdotted (0, Redundant)

sunspot42 (455706) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436733)

Every last pin is now on fire.

Serial cable pinouts (4, Funny)

worip (1463581) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436777)

No matter how many wiki's, handbooks, websites, etc. there are, chances are that I will get the DTE/DCE thing wrong! Probably the most confusing pinout scheme ever invented... Getting your serial cable right first time, requires triple high bio-rhythms and planetary alignmnent!

Re:Serial cable pinouts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28437043)

NAK NAK NAK

Re:Serial cable pinouts (1)

Mishotaki (957104) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437579)

Then, should i ask my mom to do the wiring for me? she seems to know a lot more about the bio-rhythms and planetary alignments than me...

Re:Serial cable pinouts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28437753)

The problem with serial connections is that one end assumes it is DTE (or DCE) and also assumes the other is the opposite, but it is very rare to actually document which it is assuming and you very often come across the situation that both ends assume they are DTE (or DCE) at the same time

Re:Serial cable pinouts (1)

Mr Z (6791) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437905)

Gah. Not only does RS-232 cabling suck, but also the data transfered over that cable sucks as well!

I remember working briefly at an ISP back in 1995. My favorite thing to love to hate was the fact that Global Village modems for the Mac came with a serial cable that lacked flow control signals. The modem was set to run with software flow control only. The problem is, though, at 14.4kbps and up, the round-trip response time for XOFF to actually stop things was way too long and resulted in bits dropped all over the floor. PCs with deep UART FIFOs may've been fine (I don't know), but every Mac owner that had a GV modem was bound to call us shortly after getting set up.

It was an absolute blast telling customer after customer to go spend $30 on a "flow control cable" (since that seemed to be the phrase most likely to cause sales droids to get them the right cable, right up there with "Atari tapes"). "Do you have a Global Village modem?" "Why yes! How did you know?" *headdesk*

Database error (-1, Offtopic)

jongi_ct (738355) | more than 5 years ago | (#28436897)

A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function "MediaWikiBagOStuff::_doinsert". MySQL returned error "1213: Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction (localhost)".

Wiki? (1, Flamebait)

lobiusmoop (305328) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437071)

The potential for Evil Genius Anarchy is endless. Missdirection and lies in Wikipedia lead to red faces. Similar shenanigans here could lead to at best magic smoke releases and at worst homes razed and heart-failure. Lovely.

Already Exists? (1)

Fear13ss (917494) | more than 5 years ago | (#28437665)

I've always used pinouts.ru, but for some reason it doesn't appear to be available today. Maybe we do need a more reliable location for this type of information.

As opposed to ... (1)

srealm (157581) | more than 5 years ago | (#28438207)

This is, of course, completely separate to wiki-pinups .. which is just pages and pages of semi-nude pictures of Jimmy Wales ... *shudder*.

mod d0wn (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28438713)

the project to those obligations. variations on the reaper Nor qdo the

I'll help! (1)

sootman (158191) | more than 5 years ago | (#28438967)

Start here. [dell.com] Scroll down to "Pin Assignments", then scroll a bit more to "Composite Video Connector"

Pin Number 1: LUMA COMPOSITE CHROMA

*whew* OK, done for now. More to come...

Already have one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28439559)

There already was pinouts.ru

A wiki for... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28439839)

Off topic.

I've just had a thought. Is there a wiki for computer repairs/upgrades? I'm always googling for service manuals from various vendors. Would be handy to have them all linked on a single site, or a wiki of some type. If anyone has any pointers please let me know. Currently looking for a PortegeA100 manual.

Sooo.... (1)

cyberfunkr (591238) | more than 5 years ago | (#28441247)

Is it http://www.allpinouts.org/ [allpinouts.org] like it was written in the summary?

Or is it http://www.allpinouts.com/ [allpinouts.com] as it was linked in the article?

Both URLs are Slashdotted at this point so I can't check.

Pins & Tech (1)

Tekoneiric (590239) | more than 5 years ago | (#28441811)

I'd rather see a wiki that covers more than pin-outs. Specs on all kinds of tech such as buses, motherboards, drive jumper settings along with how to ID cards.

Moar 3D pictures please! (1)

hack slash (1064002) | more than 5 years ago | (#28444173)

Whenever someone adds/updates a pinout, please can they include 3D pictures/photos of the plug/socket in question.

Whenever I have to wire up a new plug or hack an existing plug, especially things like D & scart plugs/sockets, finding a flat 2D picture of the plug can confusing when the plug/socket doesn't have numbers on it, but an isometric 3D style drawing/photo of the plug/socket in question makes identifying which pin is what much much quicker and easier.
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