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Researcher Implants Laser-Activated Brain Cells

samzenpus posted more than 5 years ago | from the listen-to-the-light dept.

Biotech 98

destinyland writes "A Stanford researcher has spliced light-sensitive algae genes into human brain cells to fire neurons when activated by a laser. Light is shined through an implanted fiber optic cable (blue light on, yellow light off), and the procedure can target very specific deep brain structures too fragile for most surgery. 'Once the researcher attaches the other end of the cable to a laser, he or she has absolute and flawless control over that group of neurons.' Science writer Quinn Norton cites it as a first attempt at 'building useful handles on the very things that make us ourselves.'"

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98 comments

Why brain cells.... (2, Informative)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460183)

This sounds an awful like binary.... Could this potentially be used to make bio-computers? Or at the very least Bio-Memory? Perhaps it has too many flaws to be useful, but the idea of using cells to store data is interesting to say the least.

So.... (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460365)

So, how do they get the laser beam through the person's thick skull to shine on these light sensitive cells?

Re:So.... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28460589)

This is surgery, it's a way to manipulate cells that you can't reach.
RTF Summary.

Re:So.... (2, Funny)

The Archon V2.0 (782634) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460611)

So, how do they get the laser beam through the person's thick skull to shine on these light sensitive cells?

AWESOME! My major in trepanation will finally come in handy! Just let me warm up my drill and I'll be coasting through this recession on the cutting edge of science, baby!

Re:So.... (3, Interesting)

zarzu (1581721) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460639)

they need to open up the brain to insert the virus and it seems they install a 50 micrometer fiber optic cable that points to the specific cells right after that. and my best guess is that you have a cable coming out of your head which you then connect to the laser. the whole thing sounds pretty amazing with the whole algae and archaeon genes, very cool.

Re:So.... (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 5 years ago | (#28461747)

This is the Matrix on a small scale.

Imagine that big plug really being a bundle of tiny fiber optic jacks...

Re:So.... (1)

Metasquares (555685) | more than 5 years ago | (#28461837)

...And a working knowledge of how high-level cognitive phenomena emerge from the firings of these neurons...

Re:So.... (1)

SlashWombat (1227578) | more than 5 years ago | (#28464249)

Imagine that big plug really being a bundle of tiny fiber optic jacks...

Gibson called them MicroSofts ... Rather apt I thought!

Re:So.... (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 5 years ago | (#28470469)

So, you get one of these cables implanted, then murder somebody. You can then claim that somebody else made you do it!

Re:Why brain cells.... (1)

srk2040 (973509) | more than 5 years ago | (#28466755)

Finally, A freaking laser mounted IN the head.

Let me guess (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28460191)

Researcher Implants Laser-Activated Brain Cells

... in a shark?

Re:Let me guess (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28460653)

no, that would be Laser-Activating Brain Cells

Re:Let me guess (1)

spartacus_prime (861925) | more than 5 years ago | (#28461199)

no, that would be Frickin' Laser-Activating Brain Cells

Fixed that for ya.

Re:Let me guess (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28463261)

Researcher Implants Laser-Activated Brain Cells

... in a shark?

Well, it would help with this [newscientist.com] other problem...

First Post! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28460193)

I hope they get really really good at these sorts of procedures, until they realize finally that the brian does not produce consciousness but rather, is an interface for it. When they do realize that, maybe they'll be a little humbled by those who have been saying as much for the last several thousand years and won't be so quick to discount such things in the future. Am I saying that standards of scientific usefulness don't matter? Of course not, and if your disagreement rests on such a mischaracterization it only reveals the waekness of your position. What I am saying is that scientifically useless != useless in every sense. It is only one way of knowing. Nothing more, nothing less.

Noodly Appendages (5, Funny)

Kratisto (1080113) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460261)

Exactly. The further science comes, the closer scientists will be to proving the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster: The source of creation, consciousness, and morality. Finally, we can have world peace when the people of Earth are united in worship of the one, true God.

Re:Noodly Appendages (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#28465783)

The arguments about "religion vs science" are silly at best. Religion/philosophy and science ask completely different questions, and neither can disprove any claim of the other. To hunt for scientific proof of God's existance or nonexistance is absurd.

The difference between God and the Flying Spagetti Monster is that nobody has ever experienced the flying spagetti monster. See Death [kuro5hin.org]

Re:First Post! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28460275)

Agreed. Consciousness is the soul, given to us by Jesus Christ. Amen.

Jews and Muslims go to hell with the dogs and the niggers because they have no souls.

Re:First Post! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28464465)

Fucking idiot. All dogs go to heaven. Everyone knows that.

Re:First Post! (3, Interesting)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460333)

We've been over this. God is sufficient but not necessary for consciousness. It's far too early to tell either way right now. Keep working on the Hard Problem:-)

Re:First Post! (2, Insightful)

lxs (131946) | more than 5 years ago | (#28463369)

God is sufficient but not necessary for consciousness.

That's a completely meaningless statement, since both "God" and "consciousness" are vague concepts that nobody can define without some serious hand-waving.

Re:First Post! (1)

superwiz (655733) | more than 5 years ago | (#28463601)

You are confusing "nobody can" with "I cannot". Consciousness is not yet defined, but it will be. It's not a philosophical, but rather physical concept. All physical concepts, however complicated, are definable.

Re:First Post! (1)

lxs (131946) | more than 5 years ago | (#28464187)

I knew I should have qualified it with an "at the moment" the second I hit submit, but your "it will be" isn't a given. We might find out how it works (and I hope we will), but perhaps we are fundamentally unable to.

But we may construct an AI who can figure it out. (Who will subsequently be unable to explain it in a way out monkey brains can grasp it.)

Re:First Post! (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 5 years ago | (#28465463)

But we may construct an AI who can figure it out. (Who will subsequently be unable to explain it in a way out monkey brains can grasp it.)

and that is the point where the AI decides we are no longer the creator as we cant understand something basic, Decides we are lying to them and unworthy and starts a systematic extinction of the human race.

See what you started? See? It's all because you had to open your mouth and correct one person...

you Killed humanity sir.. I hope you can live with that.

Re:First Post! (1)

Intron (870560) | more than 5 years ago | (#28465531)

Can any system transcend itself? Can humans never understand consciousness? Isn't this the core of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems? Aren't too many rhetorical questions annoying?

Re:First Post! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28465817)

No, But getting an answer to a rhetorical question, how about that, eh?

why rhetorical (1)

Kargoroth (1534695) | about 5 years ago | (#28480155)

and i alway thought the theorem meant that you need some sort of observable reality that to build your consistent systen on.

Re:First Post! (1)

Sinbios (852437) | more than 5 years ago | (#28465589)

There's nothing wrong that that statement though - proving one vague sufficiently proves the other, but to prove the other it is not necessary to prove the first.

Re:First Post! (1)

Bodhammer (559311) | more than 5 years ago | (#28463275)

until they realize finally that the brian does not produce consciousness but rather, is an interface for it. When they do realize that, maybe they'll be a little humbled by those who have been saying as much for the last several thousand years and won't be so quick to discount such things in the future.

Brian: I'm not the Messiah! Will you please listen? I am not the Messiah, do you understand? Honestly!
Girl: Only the true Messiah denies His divinity.
Brian: What? Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right! I am the Messiah!
Followers: He is! He is the Messiah!
Brian: Now, fuck off!
[silence]
Arthur: How shall we fuck off, O Lord?

Tinfoil glasses? (2, Funny)

basementman (1475159) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460203)

So I need to get tinfoil glasses now too so the government can't control my mind? How do you expect those of us that believe in conspiracy theories to see UFOs? Sounds shady.

Re:Tinfoil glasses? (-1, Offtopic)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460207)

Just wait until they have the laser-enabled toilet paper. New World Order, here we come!

Re:Tinfoil glasses? (1)

EmmDashNine (1082413) | more than 5 years ago | (#28461763)

So I need to get tinfoil glasses now too so the government can't control my mind? How do you expect those of us that believe in conspiracy theories to see UFOs? Sounds shady.

Obligatory Leia quote: "I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain."

Re:Tinfoil glasses? (1)

superwiz (655733) | more than 5 years ago | (#28463573)

Somehow, this seems more reminiscent of a different SW character: Lobot [lucasfan.com] .

Smacking activated cells (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28460205)

Imagine your willy being smacked until it bleeds.

Willy on wheels!

No Sharks? (0, Redundant)

ArsonSmith (13997) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460251)

If there implanting laser beams on heads, shouldn't Sharks be involved at least?

Coool (1)

The_church_of_funzie (940003) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460257)

If he can splice some photoelectric properties (generates small amount of electricity from lasers), we can finaly have a brain machine interface. But regardless this will make reading memory composition easier. Cyberpunk here we come!

Re:Coool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28460345)

brain already has electricity.

Re:Coool (1)

The_church_of_funzie (940003) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460393)

Yep, and if we can add our own laser to electricty connectors we can finaly get write access, not just read.

Laser Heads (1)

bughunter (10093) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460287)

Put me down for a laser stimulation implant of the nucleus accumbens [wikipedia.org] .

Speaking of "stimulated emissions," I'll never leave the house!

Re:Laser Heads (4, Funny)

oneirophrenos (1500619) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460397)

Like with all drugs that activate the nucleus accumbens, you'd develop tolerance. Soon even the largest laser doses wouldn't suffice, and you'd become a laser addict, roaming the streets, rummaging through trash containers, trying to find old CD drives to get your laser fix. Is that really the kind of life you want for yourself?

Re:Laser Heads (2, Funny)

bughunter (10093) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460535)

Yea, coherent light would become a controlled substance. Wicked Lasers would be contraband. Laser junkies would be hanging around the NIF, begging for spare photons. It wouldn't be pretty.

So, thanks for the foresight. I'll have them run a copper wire alongside my fiber, just in case.

Re:Laser Heads (2, Informative)

Yuuki Dasu (1416345) | more than 5 years ago | (#28462419)

I'll have them run a copper wire alongside my fiber, just in case.

Congratulations, you've invented the droud [wikipedia.org] . Larry Niven would be proud.

Re:Laser Heads (1)

BluFusion (1249440) | more than 5 years ago | (#28462873)

Wicked Lasers should be contraband anyway. They sell overpriced, under-spec pieces of junk.

Re:Laser Heads (1)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 5 years ago | (#28463133)

Like with all drugs that activate the nucleus accumbens, you'd develop tolerance. Soon even the largest laser doses wouldn't suffice, and you'd become a laser addict, roaming the streets, rummaging through trash containers, trying to find old CD drives to get your laser fix. Is that really the kind of life you want for yourself?

Yes!

Re:Laser Heads (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 5 years ago | (#28463201)

Could be worse. You could OD on a laser powerful enough to vaporize a hole your head!

Do not connect laser to remaining good lobe... (1)

N Monkey (313423) | more than 5 years ago | (#28463965)

Could be worse. You could OD on a laser powerful enough to vaporize a hole your head!

A friend of mine used to work with very high powered C02 lasers. For demonstration purposes they used to destroy bricks. Sounds like just the ticket!

Re:Laser Heads (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#28465961)

There's an Isaac Asimov story with this as the theme. The problem (in the story) is, you have to have it plugged into a 110v AC outlet. It's a detective story, an addict is murdered when someone makes his electric cord so short he can't reach the kitchen or bathroom, so he starves to death as he can't bear to unplug it.

I can't remember the story's name, but iirc the book it was in was titled Supermen.

Re:Laser Heads (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28466759)

Sounds more like Larry Nivens' Death By Ecstasy.

Re:Laser Heads (1)

bughunter (10093) | more than 5 years ago | (#28467443)

Precisely. Asimov's mystery (and Niven's "Tasp") were the inspiration for my OP. You win a cookie! (_)

Re:Laser Heads (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28467311)

I happen to be a neuroscience grad student and recently attended a guest lecture by Prof. Deisseroth. First off, the whole point of the technique is that this a way to DIRECTLY stimulate neurons, i.e., they cannot help but fire an action potential when the light comes on. Dependence and tolerance issues are not relevant, and you get much greater target specificity--just the neurons you want, and only when you want.

In my opinion, the WSJ had a better article on the topic: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124571858121939515.html

It's really a great idea, and many of us left feeling stupid for not coming up with it ourselves.

Zombie armies (2, Funny)

syousef (465911) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460309)

I have this mental image of a bunch of soldiers with sets of remotely controlled optical fibers hanging out of their head. For some reason in this image they're all kind of grey like something out of Edward Scissorhands or perhaps The Matrix, or maybe The Borg from Startrek....and the best bit is that the guy controlling them is doing it with an r/c aircraft radio. "Crush, kill, destroy, my pets!". Wait, I think someone has implanted MY brain with Hollywood crap. They did it the old fashioned way though - tv brainwashing.

Re:Zombie armies (1)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460353)

It'd probably be cheaper to just build Killbots, and people would complain less too. Not to mention better armored.

Re:Zombie armies (1)

KTheorem (999253) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460583)

And if they die you can always build more killbots.

Re:Zombie armies (1)

zmollusc (763634) | more than 5 years ago | (#28463643)

And maybe they could run Lotus Notes?

Re:Zombie armies (1)

bughunter (10093) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460369)

and the best bit is that the guy controlling them is doing it with an r/c aircraft radio.

And the twist at the end is that the guy with the r/c controller is really a robot!

Re:Zombie armies (1)

supernova_hq (1014429) | more than 5 years ago | (#28463435)

Bah, you missed that last 5 minutes where you find out the guy is real and the R/C controller is actually controlling HIM!

Re:Zombie armies (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 5 years ago | (#28465553)

""Crush, kill, destroy, my pets!". "

If it was made by microsoft, right after that command they all would start stomping the life out of your pets....

What would you do without mister fluffles?

Re:Zombie armies (1)

YourExperiment (1081089) | about 5 years ago | (#28480897)

Sounds a little like a Divine Assassin [wikipedia.org] to me.

Slashdot stories featuring lasers (1)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460325)

Instantly flooded with posts beating that dead horse. (Dead shark?)

Lock and Load (1)

HangingChad (677530) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460329)

Lock phasers on the pleasure centers.

Stand by to fire.

Great, now commercialize it.. (2, Interesting)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460367)

Things you need to do with your DNI:

1. Invoke mental imagery, preferably without interfering with normal vision.
2. Infer mental imagery manipulation.. for example, when you hear the question "what letter do you get by turning a Z on its side?" results in a common specific quale of visual intelligence.
3. Test and improve the rate and bandwidth.

With such an interface you can do human computer interaction in ways that are completely unavailable to current input devices. Imagine having a 3d modeling tool where you can just think about the object you want, or how it differs from the object you're seeing. Imagine, if you can, receiving data at a higher bandwidth than video.

Re:Great, now commercialize it.. (1)

bertoelcon (1557907) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460573)

Really, the last place i want a virus is in my brain from hooking it to a computer, however if it was just an input device and could not have any feedback it might be ok.

Re:Great, now commercialize it.. (1)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460717)

the last place i want a virus is in my brain from hooking it to a computer

Too late [playhimoff...ardcat.com] .

Re:Great, now commercialize it.. (1)

gknoy (899301) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460595)

Even if a neural interface were only able to replace my mouse and keyboard (or multiple ones), I'd be happy. No need to worry about ergonomic "layout"s, no repetetive stresses. I'd love to see that, even if it's a ways off still.

Bill Gates Borg (1)

travisb828 (1002754) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460445)

The Bill Gates Borg icon should be used with this story.

But seriously this is cool, but is an AI running on a nero-optic processor alive?

Some pics (4, Funny)

aztektum (170569) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460465)

Here's a pic [blogspot.com] of the subject hooked up to the machine.

Make us ourselves (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460625)

Is not the same a bunch of bricks than a home, even if you arrange them as in a house.

Here comes our direct Neural Link (3, Interesting)

physburn (1095481) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460677)

Sci-fi has been having human "jacking in" to computer systems, via direct connection to the brain for a while. This technology ought to make that possible, Just how to make the brain cells actually connect themselves in some useful way to the rest of the brain, seems tricky though, and i hope these gene splice brain cells are safe against cancer etc.

---

Futurology Feed [feeddistiller.com] @ Feed Distiller [feeddistiller.com]

Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28460721)

We knew that "pig and elephant DNA just don't splice", but human brain and algae DNA does? Was there a five-assed monkey working the laser?

aren't there already (1)

bugs2squash (1132591) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460723)

wasps that can do this to ants ?

Now we know how the mind control lasers work. (2, Funny)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 5 years ago | (#28460775)

And why the operators are called "illuminati". B-)

By Neruos (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28460899)

Cocky Rubish..

No respected science publication would every say "absolute and flawless control" over a area of the body that humans understand very little about. Getting a neruon to fire in a petridish in a controlled enviroment is one thing, getting it to work in the field is another. Call me after you have 5-10 years of human trails under your belt.

The logical outcome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28460937)

Just wait until everybody has algae embedded in their brains. I for one welcome our new shark overlords.

So lets do this to... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28461091)

So lets do this to a couple sharks, that way the Freakin Laser Beams can activate their KILL sense too!

Frikin laser beams inside of their heads (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28461093)

Great, now I can have sharks with frikin laser beams inside of their heads!

Execute Order 66 (0)

Neanderthal Ninny (1153369) | more than 5 years ago | (#28461435)

I wonder if they can turn on embedded programmed neurons so that you that you fire a laser to that person to tell them to do something, just like Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith where Palpatine give the command "Execute Order 66".

fuc4er (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28461679)

recent Sys Ad8in

the matrix anyone? (1)

martas (1439879) | more than 5 years ago | (#28461867)

now all we need is very advanced AI that is too retarded to build nucular power plants.

This isn't good... (3, Funny)

Kid Zero (4866) | more than 5 years ago | (#28461933)

everyone will become light headed.

Re:This isn't good... (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#28466039)

Hey, didn't they just run a story about pot a few days ago?

Brain activated laser? (1)

SirAdelaide (1432553) | more than 5 years ago | (#28461969)

Now we just need brain activated laser cells.

Re:Brain activated laser? (1)

karlwilson (1124799) | more than 5 years ago | (#28462177)

Scientists are currently in the process of splicing algae DNA with shark DNA.

Sharks with What . . . (1)

wooferhound (546132) | more than 5 years ago | (#28462145)

I am visualizing sharks with frigging lasers in my head . . .

I would just like to add... (1)

kms_one (1272174) | more than 5 years ago | (#28462587)

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

H+ mag slashvertisements by destinyland (1)

dave1g (680091) | more than 5 years ago | (#28462935)

destinyland only posts stories from H+ magazine... they are neat but feels like its just an advertising extension ala Roland (RIP)

Lights On, Or Lights Off?..... (1)

IHC Navistar (967161) | more than 5 years ago | (#28463109)

I guess that this particular neurologist likes to do it with the lights on.....

---

Welders do it in all positions.

Spinal damage (4, Interesting)

quantumphaze (1245466) | more than 5 years ago | (#28463485)

I wonder if this can be applied to other purposes like bypassing damaged sections of a paraplegics spinal cord.

We would need to develop a neuron to laser device at the other end first, but the possibilities of making people walk again are worth investment.

"The Terminal Man" (and I don't mean UNIX) (1)

wisebabo (638845) | more than 5 years ago | (#28463809)

Before Michael Crichton got in bed with the oil industry with "State of Fear" (with rain forest venom dart shooting environmentalists driving Priuses) he wrote some really good science fiction (like "The Andromeda Strain"). In a previous book "The Terminal Man" he wrote about a man who had electrical impulses providing him with biofeedback (which he abuses). Substitute lasers and Voila!
It was later made into a movie. Anybody see it?

"The Terminal Man" (and other stories) (1)

wisebabo (638845) | more than 5 years ago | (#28463847)

Before Michael Crichton got in bed with the oil industry with "State of Fear" (with rain forest venom dart shooting environmentalists driving Priuses) he wrote some really good science fiction (like "The Andromeda Strain"). In a previous book "The Terminal Man" he wrote about a man who had electrical impulses providing him with biofeedback (which he abuses). Substitute lasers and Voila!
It was later made into a movie. Anybody see it?
Also, there was an Arthur C. Clarke science fiction story where electrodes were used to "train" Orcas from eating dolphins.
Finally, in real life, there was a (I think) DARPA funded project where they managed to remotely control a large beetle into flying whichever direction they chose. A tiny radio triggered electrodes which were connected to the appropriate neurons and thus they could make it go left, right, etc. Gives new meaning to the phrase "bug on the wall".
I'm wondering when they'll be able to "improve" this technology so as to make people into remote controlled "zombies"!

Better in reverse (1)

merlinokos (892352) | more than 5 years ago | (#28464631)

Researcher Implants Brain Cell-Activated Lasers!
Fixed that for you.

Laser-activated Brain Cells? (1)

Sapphon (214287) | more than 5 years ago | (#28464869)

The reverse of that would be so much cooler.

Slashdot's been going downhill... (1)

Eli Gottlieb (917758) | more than 5 years ago | (#28465345)

Researchers have learned how to make light-activated brain cells that can affect deep-brain structures and help us in "building useful handles on the very things that make us ourselves". And yet, I'm the only person who tagged this article "Dollhouse". Come on, people! Star Trek references are old; you have to move with the times if you want to keep your geek license!

Light-activated brain writing -> Dollhouse. You should know this stuff.

Re:Slashdot's been going downhill... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28467727)

... and as a real geek, you should know that keeping up with the times is reminiscing about stuff that was good x number of years ago. Neither Star Trek nor Star Wars was as popular to the geek crowd when it was still in its infancy. The Dollhouse is too new to be a geek classic.

Illuminati, anyone? (1)

Zephyn (415698) | more than 5 years ago | (#28465865)

The OMCLs (Orbital Mind Control Lasers) are on the board. Whatever you do, don't let the Bermudans get a hold of them.

Good stuff (1)

hesaigo999ca (786966) | more than 5 years ago | (#28466143)

Next...we will be able to use this to counter the deficiency that makes Parkinson's disease so horrible.

Philip K. Dick would wonder.... (1)

Ktistec Machine (159201) | more than 5 years ago | (#28466283)

...what does the PINK light that Valis shines on your brain do to you?

so... (1)

JustNiz (692889) | more than 5 years ago | (#28470845)

Blue = become alliance, Yellow = become horde

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