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Malcolm Gladwell Challenges the Idea of "Free"

kdawson posted more than 5 years ago | from the crying-out-from-a-world-of-hurt dept.

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An anonymous reader brings us another bump on the bumpy road of Chris Anderson's new book, Free: The Future of a Radical Price, which we discussed a week ago. Now the Times (UK) is reporting on a dustup between Anderson and Malcolm Gladwell, author of The Tipping Point, Blink, and Outliers. Recently Gladwell reviewed, or rather deconstructed, Anderson's book in the New Yorker. Anderson has responded with a blog post that addresses some, but by no means all, of Gladwell's criticisms, and The Times is inclined to award the match to Gladwell on points. Although their reviewer didn't notice that Gladwell, in setting up the idea of "Free" as a straw man, omitted a critical half of Stewart Brand's seminal quote.

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It's free! (1)

FunkyRider (1128099) | more than 5 years ago | (#28535919)

I'm free to take the first post! Yaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28537071)

Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)

Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary [youtube.com] [youtube.com]

Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says [bloomberg.com] [bloomberg.com]
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds [reuters.com] [reuters.com]
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass [dailybail.com] [dailybail.com]
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar [bloomberg.com] [bloomberg.com]
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency [bbc.co.uk] [bbc.co.uk]
What are the reserve currencies? [wsj.net] [wsj.net]
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors [ml-implode.com] [ml-implode.com]
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people' [telegraph.co.uk] [telegraph.co.uk]
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats [examiner.com] [examiner.com]
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers [cnbc.com] [cnbc.com]
A False Choice [viewfromsi...valley.com] [viewfromsi...valley.com]
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com [ajc.com] [ajc.com]
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands [alternet.org] [alternet.org]
Socialising and Privatising [freeradical.co.nz] [freeradical.co.nz]
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses [politico.com] [politico.com]
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply [researchrecap.com] [researchrecap.com]

Chinas central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund [ft.com] [ft.com]

- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read. [en.rian.ru] [en.rian.ru]

- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN who is obsessed with gun control and compulsory service to the country in a capacity which he has yet to define. (Think brown-shirts.) Barack is intimately connected to disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat). Barack Obama is also connected to William Ayers (who ghost-wrote his books); Ayers is a man who promotes the concept that civilian collateral damage is ok in a war against freedom. Saul Alinsky, a man who made the quote as follows, "From all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom - Lucifer," is a man who had much influence on the young Barack Obama. A man who admired Lucifer for gaining his own kingdom in an act of rebellion. Barack also subscribed to Preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a Afro-elitist who wants all the people who largely "pay the freight" to suffer at the hands of angry African-American mobs. There are over 30 million Americans on food stamps, and more blacks are in prison and on food-stamps per capita than anyone else. The problem with Wright is simply this: the facts are "racist." There is no conspiracy against African Americans here by citizens.
- Obama - AIPAC-bootlicker, corrupted to the bone Chicago-style and a traitor to the US Constitution and a liar whose real "legal" name could very well be Barry Sotero and an Indonesian citizen (The US does not allow plural citizenship) (If you care, not that it matters anymore under a lawless authoritarian totalitarian regime such as Barack Obama's, you can see more here at an aggregator; obamacrimes.info [obamacrimes.info] [obamacrimes.info] )
- Raytheon lobbyist in Pentagon, many lobbyists getting exemptions even though Obama promised not to have them. This is one of many things Obama has lied about.
- Goldman Sachs insider second in command at Treasury. Bumbling tax cheat idiot Timothy Geithner in "command" of Treasury, with 17 positions unfilled as of late March 2009.
- Obama's cabinet has had several nominees and appointees with multiple tax fraud issues.
- Obama lied about having a new degree of accountability and a "sunshine" period for new laws; Obama has signed bills with little or no time for public review at whitehouse.gov as promised. In fact, one of the largest spending bills in US history was passed into law with several members of the House and Senate telling the public there was no time to review the bill, let alone the public.
- Pork Spendulus Bill (The Stimulus Bill) contained language that came directly from Tom Daschle (who published a book detailing his machinations to slip healthcare under the radar in some back portion of a budgeting bill). This language included the funding and authority to set up a central database of all medical treatments rendered, and the Stimulus bill also contains language that alters the Medicare-style instructions to doctors: The most economic treatments should now be used, no longer use the treatments with the most efficacy. Rationed health care, courtesy of a disgraced tax cheat, Tom Daschle. When you relatives are dying in a state hospital because their quota was reached, see how you feel.
- Obama appointed a Second-Amendment violating-denying Rich-pardoning treasonist Eric Holder as AG, a man who helped a fugitive evade justice and thinks of Americans and cowardly racists.
- Obama has put no money at all in for a single new nuclear power plant but wants to help bridges and roads - apparently to promote more driving.
- Obama, Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel have a lot to hide. They literally lived very close to each other, Rahm had (until being Obama's Chief of staff) Blagojevich's old federal congressional seat. Blagojevich helped "The Teleprompter" Obama cheat his way to the Illinois senate by getting other candidates thrown off the ballot in Illinois. Why do you think Blagojevich was so mad? Obama did owe him, big time. Rahm and Obama are preemptively using Blagojevich and trying to publically malign and discredit him because he has information that can bring Obama and Rahm Emanuel down. This is the true face of Obama, ruthless, calculating conniving cheat that will stop at nothing to gain and retain power at any cost breaking any rule.
- Tony Rezko, Iraqi Arms Dealer Nahdmi Auchi, and of course Aiham Alsammarae. Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is so corrupted it's a joke. He is connected to international arms dealers, shady property dealings and people of ill repute to gain what he needs from them: financial bootstrapping of his campaign to rule America.
- Fools and "useful idiots" twist the US Federal Budget pie charts by leaving welfare, workfare, interest on debt, social security, Medicare and Medicaid out and focusing only on non-whole "discretionary" pie charts.
2007 high level pie chart, Federal Budget, USA [wikimedia.org] [wikimedia.org]
2009 Pie chart, detailed, Federal Budget, USA [wikimedia.org] [wikimedia.org]
Now Obama wants to drastically expand the areas of the budget which are getting the most funding by far. There is simply not enough money to fund the obligations made to the public thus far (Unfunded debt obligations which are to pay for the guarantees of social security), let alone Medicare, Medicaid, welfare and other social spending which seeks to guarantee a standard of living to people which is lower what they could gain for themselves. This is an attempt to break the middle class' back so they now need government aid to survive.
- Barack Obama is drastically increasing spending and creating more entitlements that will make the US less competitive (especially against China, India, East Europe/Russia). This will be a huge disaster and "change you can believe in" will strap you, your children and your grandchildren with more debt. "No taxation without representation!" Obama is spending money for the next two-three generations and they can't even vote yet, or even have been born. This is co-opting those who cannot vote to pay for this man's reckless and illegal endeavor to make everyone a feudal serf of the federal government.
- An alternative to the dollar and a forex and a reserve currency came up at the last G20 meeting. The world will not take faith in Obama's liar-socialist spending and welfare state, why should the taxpayers (plebian citizen-slaves of a police state)?
- The spending going on now vastly eclipses all previous spending. In fact, the massive trillion plus debts is a thing of the 80's onwards. Congress signs the checks, remember that year after year, as egregious as the pentagon spending is, that the social spending is completely a waste of money and it is unfunded over the long term. Eisenhower built the interstate highway system, the USA could build a new power infrastructure with this money but instead this money is being pissed into creating more of an entitlement system that is still unfunded, and without massive head-taxes and far more aggressive progressive taxes, could never be funded.
- The budgeting being done today were recently reported by a non-partisan auditing commission will lead to about 10 TRILLION in new debt over the next 10 years. Obama is going to double the national debt while doing nothing to address the unfunded debt obligations of Social Security, or address any of the out of control egregious spending going on today via the budgets, the federal reserve and its taxation via inflation, or by bailouts and stimulus bills. This is the worst, most unintelligent and most hated congress in the history of the United States, and we have a seriously incompetent and potentially dangerous-to-the-free-constitutional-republic Barack Obama rubber stamping this bloody mess.
- Clinton appointed David Walker of the GAO, he recently quit; the unfunded debt obligations have rendered the USA insolvent according to accounting standards. The USA is already broke and cannot conceivably pay its obligations today.
Taxpayers on the hook for $59 trillion [usatoday.com] [usatoday.com]
US Public Debt Unfunded Debt Obligations [wikipedia.org] [wikipedia.org]
- Most of the world population gets nothing from their governments, or a very bare minimum or services that benefit only the upper echelons of society. However, the liar Barack Obama says the USA needs his universal "state-hospital" rationed health care to be competitive. This is pure folderol and a lie. China and India give nothing, and they are the biggest threat to the American worker. By forcing healthcare and higher taxes, Americans will be less competitive.

- If you think 60% tax rates end to end (income, accounts receivable tax, building permit tax, CDL tax, cigarette tax, corporate income tax, dog license tax, federal income tax, unemployment tax, gasoline tax, hunting license tax, fishing license tax, waterfowl stamp tax, inheritance tax, inventory tax, liquor tax, luxury tax, Medicare tax, city, school and county property tax (up 33 percent last 4 years), real estate tax, social security tax, road usage tax, toll road tax, state and city sales tax, recreational vehicle tax, excise tax, state franchise tax, state unemployment tax, telephone federal excise tax, telephone federal state and local surcharge tax, telephone minimum usage surcharge tax, telephone state and local tax, utility tax, vehicle license registration tax, capital gains tax, lease severance tax, oil and gas assessment tax, airport and FAA taxes and fees, estate tax, misc internet sales tax and many more taxes that I can't recall at the moment) will make the US competitive, along with compulsory programs to provide everyone with health care is going to make the US competitive in the age of India and China, you are incapable of understanding what it takes to build and maintain a successful industrialized republic.

- As the US nationalizes/rations healthcare to the least common denominator of affordability without regard to efficacy, people with money will simply look into medical tourism so those with money can go to medical parks in India and get real health care. Those who have lived in Canada or in the UK can tell you "free" healthcare is not a panacea. If you think this, you are again, a useful idiot. The NHS in the UK has given bad blood and Hepatitis and AIDS infected blood to people, and Jade Goody who just died was misdiagnosed twice resulting in her death (She was "all cleared" twice of the cervical cancer which she just died of). The NHS in the UK is not able to be sued or held accountable. Neither will Obama's rationed health care service for America.
- Sorry to bust the socialist bubble, but support of these types of policies will simply lower the standard of living in the USA, particularly for the middle class. At least at the end of the Eisenhower projects the USA got roads to show for the spending, and with this new spending, the USA could have built power plants that get the USA out of funding the middle east via constant demand for middle-eastern oil, but the age of government for the sake of government is upon us, and the useful idiots line up and believe empty promises.
- The pentagon along with Bechtel, Kroll, Bluewater, Halliburton, etc, could get less than half of what they get today, but that will fix nothing fundamental in terms of government spending. It is simply not enough to make a difference when compared to the Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, workfare and social security entitlements.
See: YouTube - US Government Immorality Will Lead to Bankruptcy [youtube.com] [youtube.com]
- If Obama thinks its ok to lie to 300 million people about being able to "take care of them" without even being honest about what that care would look like, then being an idiot and believing in Obama is for you.
- The head of the IRS and the head of the Treasury, Timothy Geithner, is a Tax Cheat
- Lied about no lobbyists - their numbers are growing within Obama's ranks as he issues exemptions.
- The US Government already has over 50% of the budget spent on Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, workfare and social security. Socialists: Good job on that one, its working great. Solution to the current near-collapse-due-to-over-spending: add more unfunded entitlements! And this is still a "George Bush" budget. Over half is being spend on Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, workfare and social security.
- This man is such a propagandist that he invented "The Office of the President Elect," the seals, the flags, the podium and that forum was all props and the media never once questioned any of it. It was an invention. This is the power of Obama, technicalities and rules do not apply.
- The Socialist-liars can break my spirit and my financial back to force me to "need" a federal government that is turning this country into a police state and is turning it into a quasi-socialist lie, but I will, I must put up a fight. I have kids to educate and feed, and the stuff the pseudo-socialist authoritarian Obama sells (which is failing to various degrees everywhere else as implemented) is simply forcing a culture of failure on a once great, libertarian free country.
- I will not be complacent with your "change," and there will be a point where civil war will become an option. See how hard you can push before you get it. How much more than half can the truly productive workers in this country afford to pay. Keep pushing to find out how to start a civil war. The scariest thing about Obamabots is the amount of pleasure they derive from completely defying the US Constitution and giving the government non-enumerated non-extant powers to rule over everyone's quality of life.
- The socialist-lie of a plan will not work, its not fundable, it will destroy the currency to fund it, and its really as simple as this: if this insanity is funded by borrowing from the US's economic and military adversaries then Obama and his socialist cabal is not fit to administrate society. Rome fell. Kings who mis-manged their treasuries all fell. Every example of unhinged spending leads to the same result: systemic collapse.
- Obama and his sycophantic lunatics would want to have a civil war to get Obama's way and force the socialist-lie system on my already tax paying law abiding ass. And as far as "no new taxes" for those under 250k, its a lie, the tax is called inflation, which is set to begin just about now that the Chinese wont want the USA's worthless treasuries to fund the socialist-lie fantasy (one that COMMUNIST China doesn't even try and sell to its people!) Also, what Obama fails to mention is the states are now compelled to implement his new rules, and to follow the rules the states must raise taxes. Obama may not tax those under 250k, but every last one of the 50 states will.
- Barack Obama's numbers don't add up. There is a $59 trillion dollar hole (UFDO) in social security alone. AIG $150 billion here, TARP $350 billion there. $800 billion for a highly dubious pork laden stimulus package. Another one on the way. $59 trillion hole in the balance sheet IGNORED. China saying they aren't going to buy treasuries, calling for new reserve currencies, Clinton clamoring to find buyers now. $3.6 trillion dollar budget, potential military action on Mexico, Iran still a "terrorist state" at the behest of the AIPAC, spending up, dollar about to fall, inflation over time since Breton Woods extremely easy to document, yet, the socialist-liars question when the numbers (the Federal Government numbers) simply don't add up to the point where if the US-GOV was a company it would be insolvent.
-How dare the taxpayers question what Barack Obama's drastic spending increases are going to do to the purchasing power of our savings because Barack Obama wants to recklessly spend and try to maintain and American empire AND guarantee a standard of living, and Obama doesn't even want to build a single nuclear power plant to do it? Barack Obama must be a complete and total lunatic moron at best. He is a man child, akin to Michael Jackson, who does not live in the real world. This guy has turned the White House into a Neverland Ranch.
- Obama is either a negligent idiot or an unhinged maniac with delusional fantasies. Meanwhile, Obama's tax dodging Treasury Secretary has 17 unfilled positions, the Treasury Dept. isn't even functioning at this point while the rest of the world steadily loses faith in one of the two things that makes the USA relevant in the world at all: the dollar as a "hard" or reserve currency and the US military.
- "General welfare" in the constitution was, according to the man who wrote it, Madison, meant to be extremely limited in scope. The federal government per the constitution doesn't even have the enumerated POWER to deal with economic messes. A lot of these "POWERS" were created while there is a crisis to dupe the public into accepting an un-constitutional authoritarian regime as the government and to usurp authority over the people.
- The USA is a constitutional republic. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting to eat a sheep. Also a constitutional republic isn't about using a barely-majority or a plurality to stuff your (un-fundable disastrous) crap down the disenfranchised other-half's throat.
- With Obama's authoritarian corrupted criminal (aiding and abetting a criminal in flight of prosecution, Rich case) Eric Holder in charge, we won't have our inalienable and enumerated rights to firearms much longer. For a constitutional law expert, Obama must have never read the federalist papers or he would simply hand himself as a traitor. Already there is talk of banning firearms to help Mexico's fight against the cartels. What they fail to mention is the firearms that are being used there are Mexican Military firearms being used by those who defected from the Mexican Army into the cartels directly! The firearms in question were sold to the Mexican military, over 170,000 soldiers are gone with the guns. And now the US citizens have to give up inalienable and enumerated rights? This is insanity.
- The arbitrary expansion of "general welfare" is not only unconstitutional, it may very well lead to a serious conflict on the issue.
- Here is a debate on general welfare and how stuff like this came to pass, but was clearly no intended by the authors of the document of root law.
In Federalist No. 41, James Madison asked rhetorically: "For what purpose could the enumeration of particular powers be inserted, if these and all others were meant to be included in the preceding general power?" (In reference to the general welfare clause)
So strongly did the founders believe that "general welfare" wouldn't be expanded as written:
In Federalist No. 84, Alexander Hamilton indirectly confirmed Madison's point. (That the "general welfare" clause was "clearly" not a free pass for government)
Hamilton argued that a bill of rights, which many were clamoring for, would be not only unnecessary, but dangerous. Since the federal government was given only a few specific powers, there was no need to add prohibitions: it was implicitly prohibited by the listed powers. If a proposed law a relief act, for instance wasn't covered by any of these powers, it was unconstitutional.
"why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why, for instance, should it be said, that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed?"
Hamilton goes on to argue that making Amendments (e.g., enumerating Free speech, press and assembly) and enumerating the 'right' would have the following effect:
(A bill of rights) "would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretence for claiming that power that is, a power to regulate the press, short of actually shutting it down. "
"With respect to the words 'general welfare,' I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers (enumerated in the Constitution) connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." --James Madison [The US Supreme Court has found the meaning of "general welfare" in the Constitution to be much more elastic than did Mr. Madison. But as the "author of the Constitution," what does he know?]
James Madison, when asked if the "general welfare" clause was a grant of power, replied in 1792, in a letter to Henry Lee,

If not only the means but the objects are unlimited, the parchment [the Constitution] should be thrown into the fire at once.

"...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it...it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government , and to provide new Guards for their future security. ...--The Declaration of Independence
- Monetizing failures causes more. Japan showed us this for decades. But hey, Barack Obama is actually dumb enough to think you can fix a problem DECADES in the making with a quick fixer-upper. He is screwed in the head or, more likely, lying to the American public to quickly get done the things he wants to get done before he gets thrown out on his ass.
- The complaints are with the Federal government (in general) since Breton Woods. The Federal Government and Obama's minions STILL didn't listen to David Walker, a Clinton appointee and former head of the GAO. This isn't about political parties anymore- its about spending the future to the point where today collapses. History is replete with examples of fiat currencies and deficit spending leading to collapse.
- Show me a single federal budget that was less than the previous. If this $3.6T budget goes, it is never coming back barring systemic collapse. The only President to ever see the US Public Debt at $0 dollars is Andrew Jackson.
- The United States Federal Government, The United States Federal Reserve, and the banks which were enabled to continue down reckless paths by a quasi government agency known as the Federal Reserve whose actions are not subject to congress and whose members are unelected. This situation is untenable and unconstitutional.
- Every inflationary road taken in history ends in collapse. Keynesian policies are widely regarded as no longer workable. And while Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, David Walker, Nouriel Roubini, Warren Buffet and Jim Rodgers warn about or predict all the failures, people still refuse to listen to the possibility that the US economy may contract for many years, and spending at these levels is something that can give way to a collapse.
- Inflation is a tax: What ignorant tax and spenders don't take into account here is the relative percentages of people's wealth (both net and gross) and the costs of owning and maintaining houses, cars, standards of living.
- Inflation via deficit spending is going to make it such that you will be paying a lot more by percentage of your income to maintain a given standard of living. Obama's arguments are so poorly thought out and seek to blame "Republicans" for the mess, its really simply laughable - this unhinged budgeting and currency management crisis needs cleanup now, not worsening.
- You can't spend your way out of a hole if the creditors (e.g. China) start telling the USA they won't buy. It is that simple. Now America starts to have to collateralize the debt with assets. The USA will be selling off chunks of American assets to back the new debt. One day, it may even be necessary to sell Alaska back to Russia because no one will take greenbacks to prop up a failing version of a modern Rome.
- Ah, here we go with the Matthew Lesko arguments. [lesko.com] [lesko.com]
Interest rates were on the rise before the government stepped in with free money for everyone (the fine print of course indicate massive strings attached).
Other economies, for example, India, have the central rates set to far more reasonable/realistic rates (at the moment ~ 8+%), which is still tends to be too low, but shows that if you need someone else capital you need to pay a premium for it, and given that capital is in short supply, it would stand to reason that a premium must be charged for it.
The problem is the unrealistic growth rates of mature economies don't allow for profiting via growth projections (rather than simply earning money). So the government steps in, turns on the free money spigot, gets the interest rates for savings down in the 1-2% range while diluting the value of the whole currency in order to prop up dying companies that ran the business like a Madhoff Ponzi scheme. Ponzi schemes need new money or they cease to exist. This is why the Federal Reserve is trying to issue more Reserve Notes. Without this fresh input of printed money, the Ponzi scheme will collapse.
- The Republicans aren't solely responsible for the crisis as Obama's minions would have you believe, congress is (no particular congress), the Executive of the US government (no particular one) and the US Federal Reserve System are all at fault.
- Fundamentally, the government is trying to fix the prices of various things to "make it all work." This pulling on the invisible hand is a fools venture. It was predicted long ago the housing collapse (and those, such as myself, in the know, wished while realizing the housing collapse coming that we were wrong for everyone's sake - but the truth is the truth) . It may be that the Austrian (von Mises) economists will ultimately be proven right.
- We are a nation of partially educated whiney grabby idiots, and we got the government that represents this. The Chinese, India and other up and coming nations will show no mercy for this arrogant abuse of our status as the world's forex reserves.
- War and asset sales will continue to be the only option for this scheme until it is corrected at the core. And to say that the government has already averted a depression by doing what they did (most of the monies injected wont be "felt" for some time), is just arrogance and stupidity. Price fixing prolonged the Great Depression. Price-fixing (or attempting to) houses will do the same, but probably worse.
- Obama's minions simply don't care if the US is bankrupted and rendered insolvent, they just want a say in how its done, presumably to "feel safe." Rather selfish.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." AND "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (Possibly Richard Jackson)

- Everyone better realize that inflation will pay a major role in funding un-fundable fantasies, wiping the savers and the middle class out. The problem is, that other countries are growing tired of making our Federal Reserve notes worth something by buying our debt as treasuries. Obama's minions talk about spending, but in order to "get what YOU want" you will sell debt to potential economic and military adversaries? Real bright. What's really sad is that despite David Walker being an authority on these issues, people refuse to even watch him and listen to what he is saying. Instead of seeing the truth and the bottom line of the unfunded debt obligations, they want HOPE and CHANGE, which are simply concepts which the foolish change into their own personal hopes and changes, but Obama never bothered to outline what to hope for exactly or what he will be changing.
- We have a fraud, a huckster, an empty suit for a President, a Community Organizer. This man does not have the ability to formulate an original thought, or to command action. He is a know nothing that lives in a pretend world just like Michael Jackson ensconced himself in Neverland ranch, he will hide behind those who surround him, which happen to be incompetent people who have no compunction about spending the country into oblivion to achieve personal agendas.
- On the success of Canada and its form of Socialism: A huge country like Canada with massive amounts of uranium and tar sands and natural resources and a huge land mass with a scant 30 million people is an order of magnitude less of a problem to manage than a country with 10x its population, a serious leaky southern border, backfiring aggressive foreign policy, particularly with Iran, and the US is competing with countries like India and China whose middle classes are larger than the US's entire population. The top 5 students in every Indian and Chinese primary school out numbers all the kids in primary school in the US. Canada is a idyllic island, the USA is front and center in an all out economic and political clash of ideologies.
- Cap and trade (and pollution control for solving global problems) will never work unless the top 10 countries in the world (in terms of GDP, manufacturing capacity and population) are on board. Period. end. If the world doesn't quickly move to nuclear now and fusion shortly, it is over. Possibly not if every home on the planet gets a wind vane, but that seems unlikely to happen (since its possible now).
- Keynes calls it "the paradox of thrift" and suggested that policies forcing people not to save is a "good idea." The guy wanted people spending all the time, or if he didn't, he never conveyed that to his protégés well enough for them to not do what they are doing. Right now the plebeians in the US are actually stashing cash, and everyone from Obama to the media is trying to get people to spend spend spend. The best thing for the long term is for people to prepare for the coming hell, not set out with no reserves.
- I have seen Keynes invoked to justify nearly every bad move in the past decade, and its warming up to be a potential currency collapse, the collapse of the US Treasury and Federal Reserve notes, and a collapse of the NYSE. And then they invoke Keynes to suggest the best way out of the mess is to spend out of an already near-critically debt massed black hole.
- A house is run like a town is run like a country or business is run like a state is run like a government. If there are things the government is doing that would either force your home into bankruptcy or into jail via fraud charges, then the government and banks shouldn't be operating in that fashion. A certain degree of stretchy liquidity is in order, but in terms of percent of GDP, there is no way of justifying what they US has now.
- Iceland failed at 850 percent debt to GDP. The US is at 350 and rising. It is not a good thing at all.
- What is happening to the dollar as a forex standard. [youtube.com] [youtube.com]
- March 19, 2009 C-SPAN - "Let's Quit Destroying Our Dollar!" [youtube.com] [youtube.com]
- HR 1207 (A bill to make the Fed more accountable and to answer questions regarding the dollar policy) [loc.gov] [loc.gov]

Title: Obama sidetracked by fiscal mess, but presses on [yahoo.com] [yahoo.com]
"Being heard above the din may prove difficult. Lawmakers are wrangling over taxing people who got big bonuses and worrying the president's budget could generate $9.3 trillion in red ink over the next decade."
- Kremlin to pitch new global currency [infowars.com] [infowars.com]
Russia proposes creation of global super-reserve currency.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (2, Funny)

FunkyRider (1128099) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537409)

How dare you reply my first post with rubbish like this? You deserve to be slated a thousand cuts

y0u fa1l i7 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28537447)

It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.

What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:

  • Linus Torvalds [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the first initial.
  • Richard M. Stallman [geocities.com] [geocities.com], spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
  • Alan Cox [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.

I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.

Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com], which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'

As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted [salon.com] [salon.com] on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.

And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo [comp-u-geek.net] [comp-u-geek.net] slut [rotten.com] [rotten.com]!

Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]. To quote from the article linked:

'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'

Is this why you were touching your penis [rotten.com] [rotten.com] in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?

We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.

Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.

In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups. The Slackware [redhat.com] [redhat.com] distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes. Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse, a reference to the homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] practise of anal fisting. The Mandrake [slackware.com] [slackware.com] product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator. It was also chosen because it is an anagram for dark amen and ram naked, which is what they do.

Another 'distro,' (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco,' which is where homosexuals [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] preyed on young boys in the 1970s), is Debian, [mandrake.com] [mandrake.com] an anagram of in a bed, which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares. 'Woody' is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male penis [rotten.com] [rotten.com], glistening with pre-cum. But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato' that they use. This filthy term, again found in the secret homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] 'Sauce Code,' refers to the solo homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid. The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.

And Red Hat [debian.org] [debian.org] is secret homo [comp-u-geek.net] [comp-u-geek.net] slang for the tip of a penis [rotten.com] [rotten.com] that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.

The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry! For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland. 'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to mount each other [comp-u-geek.net] [comp-u-geek.net] automatically.

The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points.' These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration. The main one is obviously/anus, but there are others. Militant fags even say 'there is no/opt mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.

More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love `man`, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out `man`. In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.

Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherit gayness. For example, people are often told of the 'FAQ,' but how many innocent heterosexual Windows [amiga.com] [amiga.com] users know what this actually means. The answer is shocking: Faggot Anal Quest: the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags!

Even the title 'Slashdot [geekizoid.com] [geekizoid.com]' originally referred to a homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] practice. Slashdot [kuro5hin.org] [kuro5hin.org] of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting. The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous homosexuals [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan, http://www.eff.org/ [eff.org] [eff.org].

The editors of Slashdot [slashduh.org] [slashduh.org] also have homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] names: 'Hemos' is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from 'Homos.' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco,' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement [pboy.com] [pboy.com]. (The best form of lubrication, they insist.) Sometimes, these 'Taco Commodes' have special 'Salsa Sauce' (blood from a ruptured rectum) and 'Cheese' (rancid flakes of penis [rotten.com] [rotten.com] discharge) toppings. And to make it even worse, Slashdot [notslashdot.org] [notslashdot.org] runs on Apache!

The Apache [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] activity -- as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People, featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.

And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.

To summarise: Linux is gay. 'Slash -- Dot' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus. And BeOS [apple.com] [apple.com] is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers.'

FEEDBACK

What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do. I'm scared I actually read this whole thing. I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people. This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this. And actually take the time to do it too. Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Well, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once. Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species. It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to warn them of the impending homo [comp-u-geek.net] [comp-u-geek.net]-calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.

You must work for the government. Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes. If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Doesn't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters? You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man. Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond? The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] child molesting Linux advocacy. Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!

you really should post this logged in. i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you. -- mighty jebus [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org], Slashdot

Thank you for your kind words of support. However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously. This is because the 'Open Sauce' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom. I speak for the common man. For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's vagina [bodysnatchers.co.uk] [bodysnatchers.co.uk] to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child. These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture. I am the unknown liberator [hitler.org] [hitler.org].

ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

We shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society. This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of Baywatch until the very mention of Pamela Anderson [rotten.com] [rotten.com] causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism [zillabunny.com] [zillabunny.com].

Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works. I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum. I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested. (Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?) -- double_h [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org], Slashdot

Well, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing. (The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: 'Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.' And anyway, the PS2 [xbox.com] [xbox.com] sucks major cock and isn't worth the money. Intellivision forever!

dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

For one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, NT [linux.com] [linux.com] is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them. Remember, a wasted arousal is a sin in the eyes of the Catholic church [atheism.org] [atheism.org]. Clearly, the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor. All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems. It is the only route to salvation.

Secondly, this message is for every man. Computers know no colour. Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by a Black Man [stileproject.com] [stileproject.com] . Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.

And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace' for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them. -- phee [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org], Slashdot

Although there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that Perl [python.org] [python.org] (standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle,' 'Pearl Nosering,' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema.'

One scary thing about Perl [sun.com] [sun.com] is that it contains hidden homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] messages. Take the following code: LWP::Simple -- It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it? But look at the line closely: There are two colons next to each other! As Larry 'Balls to the' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing,' whereby two homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together. They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone. This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as 'Parameter Passing.'

And PHP [perl.org] [perl.org] stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration. Didn't you know?

Thank you for your valuable input on this. I am sure you will be never forgotten. BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars? Mars rulaa. -- Eimernase [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org], Slashdot

Well, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I do know that homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.

That's inspiring. Keep up the good work, AC. May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again. Yours, Cerberus. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

*sniff* That brings a tear to my eye. Thank you once more for your kind support. I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord [atheism.org] [atheism.org]'s work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.

However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot. It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical. Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code,' for the sake of 'interoperability.' (The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind.)

In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (Love of Anal Naughtiness, needless to say.), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount,' into their homes. Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal. Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload,' and needs to be 'rebooted.' (i.e., kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.

Inspiring stuff! If only all trolls were this quality! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

If only indeed. You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible. I recommend '+1, Underrated,' as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org]. Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture. Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender'???

If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1,' then it will be archived forever! Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!

It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity [catholic.net] [catholic.net] that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow. It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.

As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it. When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours,' but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two,' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.

I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I sincerely hope you're Natalie Portman [geocities.com] [geocities.com].

Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading. Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it. As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time. 10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass. Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre -- from the fine, frou frou French language) Software. Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins. Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that. Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise. For concision is the soul of derision. Way. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

What the fuck?

I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed. In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos [comp-u-geek.net] [comp-u-geek.net] tend to be full of. Thank you again. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Well bugger me!

ooooh honey. how insecure are you!!! wann a little massage from deare bruci. love you -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Fuck right off!

IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not HURD [linux.org] [linux.org], which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the Public Domain [icopyright.com] [icopyright.com]. You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL [apple.com] [apple.com] (Gay Penetration License) that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest feces-encrusted [rotten.com] [rotten.com] cock. I would have put this up on Freshmeat [adultmember.com] [adultmember.com], but that name is known to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.

Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control,' which is a description of the homosexual [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr] practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum. And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later. Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.

Contributors: (although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit' that open 'sauce' development has become) Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, phee, Anonymous Coward, mighty jebus, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, double_h, Anonymous Coward, Eimernase, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward. Further contributions are welcome.

Current changes: This version sent to FreeWIPO [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org] by 'Bring BackATV' as plain text. Reformatted everything, added all links back in (that we could match from the previous version), many new ones (Slashbot bait links). Even more spelling fixed. Who wrote this thing, CmdrTaco himself?

Previous changes: Yet more changes added. Spelling fixed. Feedback added. Explanation of 'distro' system. 'Mount Point' syntax described. More filth regarding `man` and Slashdot. Yet more fucking spelling fixed. 'Fetchmail' uncovered further. More Slashbot baiting. Apache exposed. Distribution licence at foot of document.

ANUX -- A full Linux distribution... Up your ass!

I do it wrong!

I do it wrong

Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.
Massaging my nutsack she....

WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!

Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass [goatse.fr] [goatse.fr].

"OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"

"Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"

I DO IT WRONG!

I continue to hump her alabaster form. Glistening with beads of sweat, she bites her lip in delight as I tear her ass open with my engorged dick.

"Queen Amidala!!" I shreik as I near climax.

She looks up at me and screams, "You are so alive in me, unlike *BSD or VA Software!!! Fill me with seed!! Yes, Yes, Yess!!!!"

"For me you are calling, hhhmmm?"

"YODA?!? What the fuck, can't you see I am using the force here?"

He savagely kicks my Natalie aside, he pulls out his large green penis and impales me...

I DO IT WRONG!

All your sporkz are belong to the dead homiez!!

A couple weeks ago, while (browsing around the library downtown|working late in the computer labs), I had to take a piss. As I entered the john, Barack Obama -- the messiah himself -- came out of one of the booths. I stood at the urinal looking at him out of the corner of my eye as he washed his hands. He didn't once look at me. He was busy and in any case I was sure the secret service wouldn't even let me shake his hand.

As soon as he left I darted into the booth he'd vacated, hoping there might be a lingering smell of shit and even a seat still warm from his sturdy ass. I found not only the smell but the shit itself. He'd forgotten to flush. And what a treasure he had left behind. Three or four beautiful specimens floated in the bowl. It apparently had been a fairly dry, constipated shit, for all were fat, stiff, and ruggedly textured. The real prize was a great feast of turd -- a nine inch gastrointestinal triumph as thick as his cock -- or at least as I imagined it!

I knelt before the bowl, inhaling the rich brown fragrance and wondered if I should obey the impulse building up inside me. I'd always been a liberal democrat and had been on the Obama train since last year. Of course I'd had fantasies of meeting him, sucking his cock and balls, not to mention sucking his asshole clean, but I never imagined I would have the chance. Now, here I was, confronted with the most beautiful five-pound turd I'd ever feasted my eyes on, a sausage fit to star in any fantasy and one I knew to have been hatched from the asshole of Barack Obama, the chosen one.

Why not? I plucked it from the bowl, holding it with both hands to keep it from breaking. I lifted it to my nose. It smelled like rich, ripe limburger (horrid, but thrilling), yet had the consistency of cheddar. What is cheese anyway but milk turning to shit without the benefit of a digestive tract?

I gave it a lick and found that it tasted better then it smelled.

I hesitated no longer. I shoved the fucking thing as far into my mouth as I could get it and sucked on it like a big half nigger cock, beating my meat like a madman. I wanted to completely engulf it and bit off a large chunk, flooding my mouth with the intense, bittersweet flavor. To my delight I found that while the water in the bowl had chilled the outside of the turd, it was still warm inside. As I chewed I discovered that it was filled with hard little bits of something I soon identified as peanuts. He hadn't chewed them carefully and they'd passed through his body virtually unchanged. I ate it greedily, sending lump after peanutty lump sliding scratchily down my throat. My only regret was that Barack Obama wasn't there to see my loyalty and wash it down with his piss.

I soon reached a terrific climax. I caught my cum in the cupped palm of my hand and drank it down. Believe me, there is no more delightful combination of flavors than the hot sweetness of cum with the rich bitterness of shit. It's even better than listening to an Obama speech!

Afterwards I was sorry that I hadn't made it last longer. But then I realized that I still had a lot of fun in store for me. There was still a clutch of virile turds left in the bowl. I tenderly fished them out, rolled them into my handkerchief, and stashed them in my briefcase. In the week to come I found all kinds of ways to eat the shit without bolting it right down. Once eaten it's gone forever unless you want to filch it third hand out of your own asshole. Not an unreasonable recourse in moments of desperation or simple boredom.

I stored the turds in the refrigerator when I was not using them but within a week they were all gone. The last one I held in my mouth without chewing, letting it slowly dissolve. I had liquid shit trickling down my throat for nearly four hours. I must have had six orgasms in the process.

I often think of Barack Obama dropping solid gold out of his sweet, pink asshole every day, never knowing what joy it could, and at least once did, bring to a grateful democrat.

I sat naked on the bench in the health club locker room, staring at the tiles on the floor between my feet, but really looking at nothing. I was waiting for Barack to decide to come up and talk to me. He was this muscular teenage nigger who frequented the club and had ruined my life in the last few weeks. I was ordered to sit naked on the bench without a towel or anything to cover my nakedness. I had to keep my legs spread and my cock and balls visible for the anyone in the locker room who wanted a look. I knew instantly that it had been a mistake to sign up at the inner city health club which was eighty percent black, but it was near my house and cheap which was even more important.

The harassment had started on my first visit. Dark skinned, muscular black boys bouncing around the locker room with their huge dicks and pendulous sacks of balls swinging, high fiving each other and laughing and rapping, and there I was, this moderately built white guy of thirty two.

I will never forget coming back from the shower and one chocolate skinned thug of about eighteen let out a "weeeeeeeow" kind of sound and then said very loudly to me, loudly enough for all his pals to hear, "White man, how the hell can you fuck wit such a small dick?" They all roared with laughter and I turned bright red. Before I left that first time, I met Barack. He eased up to me while I was packing my gym bag. He is one good looking darkie, I will say that for him. He flashed me a big white toothed smile and said he hoped I wasn't thinking of quitting the club. He said he was friends with the manager and they had my address and shit, and it would be really unfortunate if I decided to quit. Then he laid one large basketball player sized hand on my shoulder and said that he would see me at the same time the next day.

Well, that's how it started. It got worse each time I went to the club. Barack and the other niggers got me to get towels for them, had me scrub their backs in the shower, even made me pick their dirty stinking jock straps up off the floor. They sent their filthy jocks and socks home with me to wash for them.

Now let me state here once and for all, that I am in no way at all gay. I don't think I ever even had a gay thought. So all of this really repulsed me. They would brush up against me so their big fat black dicks rubbed my body. They would make constant jokes about me being a faggot.

So I had it out with Barack. I told him I was a single parent with a thirteen year old daughter and in no way gay, and I wanted to quit the club. That mention of my daughter was the biggest mistake of my life. Barack demanded to see a photo of her. Her name is Crissy. After that, all they talked about was "Crissy the Cunt" in the locker room.

"Some fourteen year old school boy probably shoving his dick in her right now while you is at da club." They would say things like that. Barack would ask, "Do you suppose she had ever sucked black dick?" I told them she was totally innocent, and they should keep their foul mouths to themselves. They beat the shit out of me.

I didn't go to the club for a week. All the windows were broken on my car, and my newspaper was stolen, and somebody pissed all over our door. I received a package at work, and when I opened it, there was a pile of shit in a box. I was going nuts with anguish. I thought of going to the police, but I knew I would face even worse if I did. So I went back to the club. That was two months ago. A lot had happened in those two months.

Now I sat waiting for Barack to speak with me. He walked up, stark naked. The first thing I saw were his huge brown feet next to me. I looked up at his long muscular legs. How could I miss the seven inch flaccid dick, thick as a flashlight and the ball sack that looked like it had oranges in it. It was fucking obscene. His stomach was hard and tight. His ass was one of those round tight nigger bubble butts. His chest well defined with large nipples. He had a killer smile, thick nigger lips, and dark flashing eyes that often looked drugged. He had only recently gotten out of reform school for molesting a girl on the playground.

"So, my man, how's that little dick of yours hangin'?"

I spread my legs wider so he could see my pathetic shriveled white prick and small ball sack. If I didn't keep myself on display for them at all times, they would have a wet towel snapping session where my scrotum was the target. It hurt like hell and was totally humiliating.

"So, bro, is everything set up for tomorrow?" He stood close to me...so close that his huge flaccid hunk of fuck meat brushed my shoulder. His dick was so huge, it was just fucking obscene, and that was in its flaccid state. He had not showered yet, and his body reeked of the nigger stink of his workout.

"Please. Please don't do this. I know I agreed, but that was after you had beaten me almost senseless. Please, isn't there some other way?"

He lifted one leg and put his foot on the bench next to me. His gigantic balls swung back and forth in their fleshy sack.

"Dere is no other fucking way, man. You don't wanna even think of what we gonna do to you next time you disobeys us. Dere is no other way. Now it so happens dat I needs me a new girlfriend, and your pretty little daughter fills da bill."

I felt my stomach turn over. I tried to relax, to breath deeply, but I felt like I was choking. This teenage nigger thug was talking about my daughter. My little Crissy. My thirteen year old angel. He had announced to me that he wanted her to become his girlfriend! Jesus Christ!

At first I had bluntly refused, letting my anger and disgust show. All the niggers in the club gathered around me, about fifteen of them, and Barack announced that I was racially prejudiced and didn't want him dating his white daughter. They started to slap and punch me.

"It's not that. Honest to God, I swear, it's not that you are black. It's that she is only thirteen. She's my innocent baby!"

Barack roared with laughter. "Any bitch of thirteen is totally ready for dick! She probably sucking da boys at school every day anyway by now." He looked at the photo of her which he had taken from me. "Yeah, she got real cocksucker lips, she shore do!"

"Oh God no, she's just a baby." I was crying in front of all of them.

"No, daddy, you gots it wrong. She is a babe...not a baby. Dat pretty little pussy is ready for some nigger popping!" Half the niggers surrounding me were getting hard ons, and I don't there there was one under eight and a half inches.

For weeks I had argued, begged, pleaded, tried to bargain with Barack, but he only wanted one thing. My daughter's virgin pussy. Once I stood up to them and told them I would go to the police. They had dragged me naked and screaming into the health club bathroom and forced me to eat turds out of the toilet bowl. I was sick for two days. The next time I went to the club, Barack had made me suck his dick. That was the first time I saw it erect. Over twelve inches of throbbing leaking nigger cock. I had a panic attack and literally tried to run out of the club. They held me down on a bench and Barack fed me his black fuck meat. His balls almost suffocated me. His dick choked me. He even made me suck his ass. What could I do? I agreed to let them have my daughter. I know, I am an awful man. A sinner. It is unforgivable, but I am scared out of my wits.

"So, tomorrow, I comes over to yo house dressed up real good. You introduce me to yo bitch daughter. Now when I sees her, dis is how I wants her dressed. A very tight tee shirt dat says printed on it, "I Love Nigga Dick!" She will wear no bra under it so I can see the tips of her budding little titties through the material. Den she is to wear her nice pleated cheer leader skirt like in da photo, only I don want her to wear no panties under it. From now on, yo daughter is forbidden to ever wear any panties. We want dat fresh young cunt and ass ready and available at all times. I want you to have some really top drawer booze at yo house ready for me. I am not sure what I will want, so you better have enough to satisfy me, whatever my taste might be. Who da fuck knows, I may want a cosmo, or maybe some of dat Louis XIII Brandy dat costs three hundred dollars. You better have it all. After I has a drink, you pretty little bitch and I gonna sit on da couch and get acquainted. Dat means you as da daddy get to watch me finger her cunt and play wit her titties. You gets to see her meet my big fat old dick and even lick and suck it a little. I always insists on sex on da first date, cause how else you know how a bitch perform, right? Shit, I insist on sex on every date. I mean dat is da only reason for da fucking date..to plow some pussy! Right? Otherwise I'd rather hang wit da home boys. Now she gonna be a little uptight and scared at firs...right? Specially when she see my dick and she know dat huge motherfucker is gonna plow her virgin twat! Oh yea, if she got any hair on her cunt yet, you make sure she shave it all off before tomorrow. I wanna see bald thirteen year old pussy."

While he said all of this to me at the health club, his dick got thicker and thicker and long strings of pre-fuck started to hang from the fat pisshole.

"Please don't hurt her...please." I was shaking in my naked agony.

"Hurt her? No why the fuck would I hurt my new girlfriend? I gonna love her. I gonna show her da pleasures of lovemaking. Shore, it gonna hurt a little da first time I ram my twelve and a half inch motherfucking dick balls deep into her tight little teenage pussy. Shore it gonna hurt when I pounds her as hard as I can, and den pull out and shove it as hard as I can up her little asshole. Shore dat gonna hurt a little, but dat is jus' part of growin' up. A her daddy, you understand dat. Right? Better to hab some nice boy like me who wants her for his girlfriend fucking her, den every boy at school who don't give a shit about her.

"Now don't you worry, I gonna take her into the bedroom to fuck her cunt and ass. I think dat is private. I mean, you can watch da first time she suck my balls and lick my dick and such. But fucking is between a guy and his girlfriend. I wants you dere at the start...at the sucking part, cause she is gonna be scared like I say, and you can calm her. Tell her it is a natural part of life, and she just gotta learn to please a man. She, she shoulda learned dat couple of years ago already. She is a late bloomer.

Now I am gonna want to use her bedroom for da first fuck,cause I wants to fuck her little bitch body in her teenage bed, wit all her teenage shit around. It will be so hot. But den, I is moving into your master bedroom. You can sleep on da couch. I wants a nice big bed and luxury for future fucks. I gotta fuck at least three times a day, usually more. Now of course I still going to be bangin' other cunt, but I will fuck your daughter regularly cause she is my number one girlfriend. My special bitch. I ain't gonna introduce her to my bros until after I fuck her for a week or so. Den when she broken in, I gonna share her with all da boys from dis here health club. Dere about twenty of us here as you know, so she gonna be pretty busy sucking nigga dick and getting ass and cunt fucked. We gonna do mos' of it over at yo house. You have lots of food dere at all times fo my brothers when dey comes over to fuck your daughter. Since she be fucking most every day all day and night from now on, I suggest you apply to home school her. Dat way, she don't even need to think about school and she can concentrate on nigga cock all da time."

"Please, please use condoms...." I had tears running down my face.

Barack roared with laughter. "Condoms? Shit...no. We never use condoms. It ruins da fuck. Dat little bitch gonna be pregnant in a couple of weeks at mos'. You gonna be da grand daddy of a nigga chile! And who knows. She young. If she stay tight enough and cute enough, maybe we fuck her for three or four years, you know, pass her around, pimp her out. Shit, she still young enough. She could hab five or six nigga babies! We don' allow no abortions. She gonna breed. Now my brothers and daddy be comin' over lots to fuck her too, so you better have lots of keys to yo house made, or jus' leave the fucking place unlocked. She don't leave da house without permission. I would hate it for both of you if some black bro comes over for a good hard fuck, and she not dere! Now I know you worried about her. Don' be. After a few days of getting nigga dick, she gonna love it so much, dat all she gonna live for. I seen it in young white bitches lots of times. Someday she gonna thank you for all dis. I mean how many girls her age so lucky to get ten to fifteen black cocks a day? Long as her pussy and asshole hold up, she be happy. One thing, she gonna hab to be a really good cocksucker, cause One thig is dat when da boys in my hood meet up wit guys from other gangs...we got dis thing. We hab our girlfriends suck da cocks of all da members of the other gangs, as kind of a peace signal, you know, a sign dat we is kewl and everything is okay. So she gonna pretty much hab a dick in her mouth twenty-four seven for da next few months. She gonna be sucking on nigga dick even when she getting fucked by my bros. Dis house gonna be pretty packed full of black boys! Now, after a bitch has sucked fifteen to twenty dicks a day, she often get a real tired jaw and swollen lips and a sore tongue, so you gonna have to tell her no matter how tired she get, da last dick of da day she suck, gets jus' as good a suck as da first one in da morning. You gotta make sue she understand that. I can't have no bad reports from rival gangs dat my bitch can't suck!

Now we gots one more problem. Da little bitch gonna be so busy getting fucked and sucking dick, she ain't gonna hab no proper time to clean up da dicks after dey fuck her cunt and ass! You know it da bitch's job to clean a dick wit her mouth after a brother fuck her. I mean, you can't expect a brother to walk around wit pussy slime or ass juice on his dick. But she gonna be so busy, she ain't always gonna hab time to clean up, so you my friend is going to have to step up to da plate to help her. You gonna be the official dick cleaner. You gonna lick and suck da dicks clean after dey fuck yo bitch of a daughter. I want you naked on you hands and knees at all times around da house, ready to lick and suck dick clean. And you gonna do a fine job too, I just know it. You get all dat stink off da cock. Maybe you can entertain da brothers waiting next in line to fuck yo daughter too by lickig dere balls and assholes. I never thought of dat until just now. Hot damn, dat is a good idea, ain't it? So dey don't get bored while dey waitin. And den, to keep your daughter fresh and tight, after every three or four fucks, you gonna crawl in and suck the nigga cum right outta her pussy and asshole. Think how great dat is. You gonna get to suck some thirteen year old pussy and asshole! How lucky is dat? You gonna clean out her cunt real good with yo tongue so it is ready for da next nigga.

We gonna be da happiest family you ever seen! Now come on, white boy, suck my dick, can't you see it dripping all over da floor?"

I put my mouth over the head of the huge leaking hunk of fuckmeat, and resigned myself and my daughter to our new destiny.

it's time to take care of business (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28535955)

fags, cripples and retards need to be thrown into ovens so they'll no longer be a burden on society. it's time for us to write to our governments and request an end to these disgusting wastes of life.

Summary?! (3, Insightful)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 5 years ago | (#28535973)

Summary, n.: a comprehensive and usually brief abstract, recapitulation, or compendium of previously stated facts or statements.

That is exactly what this slashdot post isn't.

Re:Summary?! (5, Insightful)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536117)

Editor, n: a perl script used to push a slashdot article to the frontpage "as is" or with random perturbations.

kdawson.pl is widely acknowledged as the buggiest and least effective of these script.

Re:Summary?! (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536165)

Well it certainly was abstract!

What's a Goy Doing? (1)

Philip K Dickhead (906971) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536457)

Challenging the idea of "Free"?

I thought that was the job of "the chosen people".

Re:Summary?! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28536201)

kdawson challenges the idea of "Summaries"

Re:Summary?! (5, Funny)

overcaffein8d (1101951) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536279)

or my mother's / sister's definition:

summary (also summery), adj.: of or relating to the summer, esp. with clothes, e.g. yellow cotton dresses.

Re:Summary?! (0, Troll)

cthulu_mt (1124113) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537997)

Your mother and your sister are the same person? I don't know how that works.

Extended Summary (5, Informative)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536571)

To try and make a long story short, but not too short:

Malcolm Gladwell and Chris Anderson are, according to the Guardian newspaper, "Two of the world's leading thinkers". A title seemingly obtained from a long career of writing endless books about things no one really cares about, but everyone likes to have an opinion on.

Andeson is the author of a book called, "Free: The Future of a Radical Price", in which he argued that in an age where terabyte drives can be had for less than $100 , and megabytes of data can be whizzed around the tubes in seconds, a story or articles or other pieces of data only a few kilobytes in size can only be worth, well, nothing.

The spat began when , Gladwell, in his review of the book, became a bit, harsh, in his critques of Anderson, calling his arguments "pithy"(sic!) and "uncompromising", and generally regarded Anderson's arguments as lacking in substance(my word!).

Unfortunately, this rather vicious assault came at a time when Anderson was recently caught plagiarising material, and worse from Wikipedia, so he must have felt a need to defend his intellectual honor from Gladwell's slights. He therefore promptly responded with am open letter titled "Dear Malcom: Why so threatened?"

At this point everyone in the playground let out a collective "OOOUUUUHHHHHHHHH!!!" and someone was heard to yell "Fight!". Needless to say, this sort of hubbub is rarely seen in such great intellectual circles, and the social clubs are just brimming with gossip about the scandal.

The Guardian, ever the vigilant reporter of great matters of state, has dutifully brought the matter to the attention of the greater public. In addition, their great commentator Murad Ahmed, has already declared that Gladwell "wins this one on points", which is certain to stir things up a bit.

It's all so exciting! Wouldn't you agree?!

Re:Extended Summary (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537103)

Maybe there is something about the reporting that makes this seem boring, but really, intellectual property is a huge issue at the present moment and going forward. Basing our economy on something that may or may not have any actual long-term value (depending whether nations play nice and protect each others' IP) is actually quite momentous.

Re:Extended Summary (2, Interesting)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537171)

Basing our economy on something that may or may not have any actual long-term value (depending whether nations play nice and protect each others' IP) is actually quite momentous.

Forget long term. The real question facing is is whether intellectual property has any value whatsoever. While various arguments may have sufficed in bygone days, in the digital age it's hard to justify how something which has unlimited supply can still have a non zero price. As technology improves and it becomes trivial to copy and distribute movies and even vast databases, this question will only become more pointed.

Personally, I think that we will need to sacrifice the idea of copyright protection for profit in order to protect the idea of copyright protection for moral purposes.

Is the real story ego? (1)

swb (14022) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537479)

My take is that Gladwell is post-peak and he knows it.

IIRC his last book got kind of panned, and I don't know if the one before that was super well received, either, and the last thing he wants is someone else with "big, revolutionary & daring ideas" shoving him out of the spotlight.

I mean, if that happens, he's just another loudmouth with an iPhone and a bunch of opinions.

Gladwell's "big" ideas and how-smart-am-I delivery I think will be non-starters in a world of 15% unemployment. They may keep going over big among the faux intelligentsia still capable of affording $6 lattes and Kindles, but won't mean shit to those of us sharecropping the back yard.

Re:Is the real story ego? (5, Insightful)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537975)

My take is that Gladwell is post-peak and he knows it.

Give him a little bit of credit, at least try to address his arguments.

They're both rather accomplished bullshit-pop-sociology writers, but the real disagreement has a lot to do with their style. Anderson is like Tom Friedman and Ray Kurtzweil, in that he is a messianic This Is The Future pop philosopher-type, and tends to construct his argument around absolute, theoretical propositions, and asserts his case as if it were inescapable physical law. He writes like an Austrian Economist or a Straussian. He is a structuralist.

Gladwell is the skeptic. All of his books have mainly focused on picking-apart the assumptions of structuralists; you think entrepreneurs are the movers in an economy, he puts up 10 reasons why it isn't so simple. You think hockey teams always select the best roster of players? Outliers is about how social institutions are highly irrational in identifying the successful. You think people make rational decisions at all? He wrote a book called Blink where he calls it all into question.

I'm not saying he's right, it's just his MO. When he sees a book like Free, that makes Big Important Statements about How All Of Us Order Our Lives, it's bait to someone like him.

Re:Extended Summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28537947)

It's all so exciting! Wouldn't you agree?!

No.

Re:Summary?! (1)

caladine (1290184) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537309)

Posted by kdawson on Tuesday June 30, @04:46PM

[sarcasm] Oh, wow. I'm surprised by this one! [/sarcasm]

kdawson's SNR is pretty low.

1 headline + 1 paragraph = nonsense (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28535985)

Could anyone understand that mess? Is this a book review? If I didn't know that "outliers" was a book, I'd be clicking past.

Re:1 headline + 1 paragraph = nonsense (2, Funny)

WaXHeLL (452463) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536027)

Glad to see we have editors who can't re-write a summary so that it actually means something to 99% of the people out there.

What is your problem? (1)

EWAdams (953502) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536339)

The item is reporting a Times article, along with some related links. The issue is a familiar one and the language perfectly grammatical. What's the problem?

Re:What is your problem? (1)

langelgjm (860756) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537053)

The issue is a familiar one and the language perfectly grammatical. What's the problem?

The stinky cloud thought to herself, "I'm hungry."

That language is perfectly grammatical, but also nonsensical. I'd also question whether "challenging the idea of free" is a familiar issue... challenging the idea that information or music should be free, maybe, but not challenging the idea itself, which is what the headline says.

Re:1 headline + 1 paragraph = nonsense (1)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 5 years ago | (#28538161)

It's about journalists, so they naturally assume that you know what they're talking about. They live in a tiny, insular world...

The New York Times (-1, Flamebait)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 5 years ago | (#28535997)

For hipster trash neourbanites like you.

Get the weekender so we can tell you what to think, and what to parrot off to your friends in order to sound smart and cultured.

Re:The New York Times (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28536195)

Here's the thing, I worked hard in school, went to a great college, and now I earn more than 95% of the population. I can live wherever I want, and I have lots of disposable income that I can afford to spend less-than-wisely. If the price I have to pay for medical insurance, useless gadgets, and getting to fuck vapid but beautiful trust fund whores, is an online tongue-lashing from some red-state moron(who's feeling like a badass because Comcast finally strung some fiberoptics underneath his cornfield), then I'll just have to drown my sorrows with the $15 drinks at my favorite overpriced bar ;)

p.s. Reading The New York Times would make you a laughingstock among the social circles I run in.

Re:The New York Times (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28536433)

It doesn't change the fact that, deep down inside, you're just another Anonymous Coward...on.

Re:The New York Times (3, Funny)

NotBornYesterday (1093817) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537079)

That's funny. Paying $15 for a drink would make you a laughingstock in the social circles I run in.

Sing it with me now!!
"'Cause I've got friends in low places
Where the whiskey drowns
And the beer chases my blues away
And I'll be okay
I'm not big on social graces
Think I'll slip on down to the oasis
Oh, I've got friends in low places

Re:The New York Times (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28537957)

Laugh all you want, as long as you don't spit in my fries.

^_^

My Time Isn't Free (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28536003)

I'm done tinkering with Linux.

Windows 7 - Because your time isn't free.

Re:My Time Isn't Free (0, Troll)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536023)

I'm done tinkering with Windows and am ready for something easier that makes more sense.

Linux - Because your time isn't free.

Re:My Time Isn't Free (2, Insightful)

EvanED (569694) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536307)

I hate every operating system, each for its own special reasons.

Throwing your computer off the roof - Because your time isn't free

Re:My Time Isn't Free (1)

Allicorn (175921) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536443)

...but gravity is :-)

Throwing your computer off the roof (4, Funny)

Nefarious Wheel (628136) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536489)

Throwing your computer off the roof - Because your time isn't free

There are other reasons for throwing your computer off the roof. In the early days of Apple we had a little commercial system based on Apple Pascal that ran on a ][+. It was a true blivit in the classical sense, something sort of written that ran a part of the business until it couldn't anymore.

When we took it to the roof of the building and threw it into the parking lot, someone remarked "That's the longest it's ever gone without a crash". We used 11/70's from that point until they couldn't do the job either, but they were too big to conveniently throw off the roof.

Re:Throwing your computer off the roof (1)

NotBornYesterday (1093817) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537115)

I apologize in advance, but just so you know, I'm going to plagiarize that story and "That's the longest it's ever gone without a crash" for the rest of my life. Frickin' hilarious.

Re:My Time Isn't Free (1)

whiledo (1515553) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536455)

Linux - Because your time isn't free.

In having experience as a casual user of Linux with several distributions over the last few decades, I don't really see how the left and right half of this statement go together. I've spent far more time digging through newsgroups and forum posts and google hits trying to find answers to my Linux problems than I ever did with Windows. And I'm a computer programmer by trade and a former help desk worker and hardware debugger.

Windows sucks, but Linux sucks, too. The thing about Windows is that it typically has far fewer rough edges in its GUIs than Linux does, and that's where you get hung up on when you're doing something for the first time. It also has far wider hardware support. And you've got to be kidding if you don't recognize that hardware troubleshooting is one of the biggest time sinks there is.

Re:My Time Isn't Free (1)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536517)

Troubleshooting hardware was my biggest timesink until I switched to linux. Then things just started owrking.

That's just my experience but no more hunting for drivers, dependency hell (well not since I left Windows & Fedora 4), no more installing this and that just to lockdown a system to barely usuable.

I don't claim to speak for all users, but linux has given me far fewer problems over the years.

Re:My Time Isn't Free (1)

whiledo (1515553) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537625)

Well, my most recent experience with linux and hardware was actually less time consuming than usual. It was basically "Q: So, how do I get this pcmcia ethernet card to work on this laptop? A: You don't. There is zero driver support for it in linux." So yeah, that was pretty quick. Prior to that, on another laptop, the kernel simply locked on boot. This was also quickly solved as I realized that it just wasn't worth it. As much as I'd rather be using linux for various ideological reasons, my time had become valuable that I could stomach just installing the "inferior" Windows, which would work right out of the box.

In the spirit of the article... (0, Flamebait)

earnest murderer (888716) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536731)

Linux - Because your time isn't free.

Linux the operating system for people whom time has no value.

Re:In the spirit of the article... (1)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536821)

Which is why linux sysadmins are higher paid than MSCE ones. Yep, makes perfect sense.

Weee, flame war!

Re:In the spirit of the article... (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536923)

Which is why linux sysadmins are higher paid than MSCE ones. Yep, makes perfect sense.

Weee, flame war!

Heh you might want to re-think that one, it's working against you.

Re:In the spirit of the article... (2, Funny)

NotBornYesterday (1093817) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537219)

I'm tempted to reply " ... and Windows is the OS for people to stupid to figure out Linux", but I'm not feeling quite that snarky at the moment. Honestly, folks, Linux isn't that difficult.

If you happen to happen to favor Windows, fine, so be it. Just don't assume that Linux is as hard for everyone else as it is for you.

FWIW, I just spent a chunk of this past weekend working on a friend's Win XP box, removing viruses and trojans, editing useless, orphaned crap out of the registry, minimizing the amount of crap launched at system startup, and various other tuning and tweaking. Say what you will about the time to run a Linux box, but I've never had to devote that much time to getting any kind of *nix system un-fubarred, and I've worked on more than a few.

Re:My Time Isn't Free (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536863)

In my experience, Linux is usually either very simple or very complicated. Like, you boot a computer and if it autodetects everything then wow is that much easier than Windows. When it doesn't work though, on Windows it's usually a CD/download and next/next/finish away. On Linux there's usually some f-ugly reason it's not in the kernel, almost so my first thought is "can this be solved with an addon card?"

What ends up being the endless timesinks for me though is when I try to use stuff primarily designed for Windows. Like for example all the various forms of embedded video, I hope to god that the HTML5 <video> element takes off bigtime. There's so many other variations apart from flash, and flash itself has been hell to tweak too. And I don't know how often I've messed with kopete/pidgin but they never ever work well with MSN - I get messages yes but offline messages, custom icons, picture sharing and tons of other stuff plain old does not work. I still have to deal with websites that are IE only - fortunately I can do that through a VirtualBox (probably WINE too). In short, Linux is great as long as you can live in the Linux-bubble but the moment you have to interact with the Windows world it's a huge timesink.

I've grown more and more pragmatic with time - instead of fiddling with trying to make stuff work I try to:
a) Buy Linux-friendly hardware
b) Deal with all stuff Windows through VirtualBox
c) Eliminate b) instead of trying to tweak WINE

It's not really the complex apps like Photoshop I miss... it's the really "simple" stuff like browsing the web and chatting with people like a normal person. As an absolute #1 on my hit list would be MSN - please find a way to make an open standard popular (yes, I know of IRC and Jabber - welcome to geekland), it's really not working very well today.

Re:My Time Isn't Free (1)

mr_mischief (456295) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536413)

Windows 7 RC -- because your time is free to Microsoft, and your data is less important than your Ballmer fanboi suckass score.

Ballmer fanboi suckass score... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28537619)

... is that measured with chairs?

Offtopic flamebaits... (1)

denzacar (181829) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536735)

Guarantied to attract at least 8 fanbois since 1972.

As an added bonus, the above offtopic flamebait has people replying to it about the value of their time.
There is more unintentional comedy in this thread than in an average Turkish remake of a famous action movie.

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To be fair (3, Funny)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536129)

Does Gladwell also have a problem with the Wikipedia articles that Anderson plagiarized for the book?

Information doesn't want to be free... (3, Funny)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536131)

...it just wants to be anthropomorphized.

Re:Information doesn't want to be free... (1)

jonadab (583620) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537049)

> [information] just wants to be anthropomorphized.

I think you're projecting your own desires on the information. Because *you* like being anthropomorphized, you assume that information must want this as well, but in fact information doesn't care whether it's anthropomorphized or not, as long as it's not late for dinner.

Re:Information doesn't want to be free... (1)

CopaceticOpus (965603) | more than 5 years ago | (#28538185)

Only something non-human can be anthropomorphized, therefore the desire to be be anthropomorphized is a desire to be non-human. Weird.

Please, not Malcom Gladwell (2, Funny)

DriedClexler (814907) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536199)

FACT: Chuck Norris is the only one who can read Malcom Gladwell without losing brain cells.

But even he loses one.

Malcom Gladwell is apparently a giant midget (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28536491)

wikipedia: [wikipedia.org]

During his high school years, Gladwell was an outstanding middle distance runner and won the 1500m Midget Boys title at the 1978 Ontario High School championships

1000 times taller than the average human and still classed as a midget?

Captain Obvious (3, Interesting)

EmperorOfCanada (1332175) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536235)

I love how this guy discovers the obvious and then gets people to buy his books. What is it? His hair cut fools people into thinking he is smart?

Re:Captain Obvious (2, Interesting)

piojo (995934) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536819)

I love how this guy discovers the obvious and then gets people to buy his books.

Well, his talent is that he can talk. His ideas aren't "obvious"; in fact, I sometimes doubt that he is correct. His books don't employ the level of rigor that Freakonomics, for example, uses. But he has interesting ideas and explains them well. That's why his books are best sellers.

Re:Captain Obvious (1)

piojo (995934) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536827)

Oh, I should add that he makes his readers feel smart... I would guess that's actually the reason he is so successful.

Re:Captain Obvious (2, Interesting)

timeOday (582209) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537265)

I like Gladwell's books because he selects a field and recaps the landmark studies (or anecdotes) in an interesting way. Granted, he then tries to make some over-arching argument, which is sometimes not too convincing. But IMHO he is an engaging reporter of others' research.

Re:Captain Obvious (1)

nausea_malvarma (1544887) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537353)

Oh, I should add that he makes his readers feel smart... I would guess that's actually the reason he is so successful.

That's so obvious, it ought to be the thesis of a Malcom Gladwell book.

The biggest point, in my opinion (5, Interesting)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536243)

The biggest point, in my opinion, that Gladwell makes, is that you still need to find a way to make money. Both sides use the example of youtube, which gives away everything for free. However, they have infrastructure costs of somewhere around $300 million a year, which they haven't been able to cover with advertising. Will they be able to find a way to cover their costs, or not? I don't know the answer to that, maybe eventually.

I think Anderson is kind of stumbling upon a point an MBA told me once, that given enough time, all new technology becomes a commodity. There are a dozen word processors you can choose from, a dozen different types computers, a dozen types of memory to choose from, hundreds of flash game sites (which are free, but 20 years ago people paid real money for games just like those). So for the most part, things will get sold for a little more than the cost to create them (the MBA then went on to tell me a number of different techniques to 'lock in' customers to your product: trapping users with file format was one, there were many other more devious methods, and Microsoft uses many of them. I don't underestimate quality MBAs anymore).

What Anderson is saying is that more and more, marketers will use freeness to suck users in. This is actually common knowledge among marketers, they've been playing with 'free' for years, and they are really excited about it, and talk about it amongst themselves, and to anyone else who will listen. Basically Anderson is right.

What Gladwell is saying is that you still need a way to cover your costs. Basically he is right as well.

They are both right, and what's more, if you asked an MBA about this, they might wonder why you are arguing about such basic ideas. And if you ask nicely, they'll tell you tons more about things you never even thought of.

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (2, Interesting)

Phurge (1112105) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536305)

Will Youtube be able to cover its costs? Probably not - but that's probably not the right level to look at the issue.
Will Google as a whole be able to recoup value (financial or strategic) from Youtube? ..... well maybe, but I guess the jury is still out on that one too.

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (2, Interesting)

mr_mischief (456295) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536477)

There are more specific questions about how they could gain value from YouTube. Will Google, which reportedly uses a homogeneous infrastructure for all of its apps, learn important and valuable lessons from hosting a popular high-bandwidth site on that infrastructure? Will they gain important mindshare in other markets because of it? Will they learn important rules about search, user interaction, or advertising markets which they can apply to other services they offer?

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (2, Interesting)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536625)

Yesterday my wife found out that her father may have cancer. She organised for a specialist to see him tomorrow. When she got home she asked me to find the location of his office. I found a pointer to a medical directory site with his details, okay. Then she asked me how to find that address so I went separately into google maps and searched for the address. Google gave me a nice sidebar with a list of businesses in the general area I was searching for including the doctor I had been previously googling.

Now I am sure that my father in law's illness is worth at least a couple of grand to that doctor. Anything which tells google what is on my mind (say I searched youtube for CT scans of lymph nodes, a particular interest to me at the moment) helps them shake down that doctor for advertising money.

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (1)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536567)

You should expand on that.....what sort of strategic value do you envision for youtube? Because many companies have failed for amassing mountains of non-profitable strategic 'value'.

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (1)

TheRealMindChild (743925) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536835)

For Instance, people "google" for YouTube video's all of the time. Even if you start out at bing.com and end up at youtube, Google is steering you to their search engine, which gives them more ad revenue. It is one of many less direct means that something like YouTube creates its value.

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (2, Interesting)

Phurge (1112105) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537113)

Well the way I see it, google thrives by keeping users within its ecosystem. Having users drives advertising. So as long as it keeps competitors out (by offering free products) then the adsense gravy train continues to roll on....

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (1)

grcumb (781340) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537399)

Will Youtube be able to cover its costs? Probably not - but that's probably not the right level to look at the issue.

True, but I suspect everyone is missing the point. The question is: How will Google make money from youtube?

The possibility that they won't is a nightmare scenario, with P2P everything at its logical conclusion.

If Google can't make youtube pay, they fundamentally subvert the whole premise of centralised Internet services built around content delivery....

...and Gladwell looks even more like a vacuous twit. So I guess what I'm saying is that I'm okay with that. 8^)

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (1)

Raffaello (230287) | more than 5 years ago | (#28538195)

How will it make Gladwell look like a vacuous twit? Gladwell is the one arguing that business models based on providing free content don't magically work; they need to find some way to make the free content profitable. So if Google fails to make money from youtube Gladwell will be vindicated.

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (1)

serbanp (139486) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536425)

Sure, but Anderson is dead wrong if he's waiting for the hardware price to drop to ZERO (i.e. free). Despite the spectacular price drop for all things hardware, they still have to be sold at a profit, otherwise no one would make them. They'll never get truly free, no matter how little you pay for them.

.

Gladwell's writing abilities keep improving, his latest book being way better written than The Tipping Point. Who the heck is this Anderson guy and why can't he write in meaningful sentences?

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (2, Interesting)

mugnyte (203225) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536583)

  Not true. You are considering only new hardware.

  However, not far from my house is a technology recycling warehouse. For some labor or a donation, you can pick up essentially free parts and build a machine of your liking. People use it for all kinds of projects, from PCs to hybrid microcontroller projects.

  Most of the new technology replaces something, pushing it into the used stream, then finally the waste stream. However, even outdated technology has uses. It's basically free and sits in a many of the nonprofit offices around me.

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (1)

abigor (540274) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537901)

Gladwell's article doesn't concern home computers or recycled computers. By "hardware", he means massive infrastructure. He makes this very clear in the article.

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (1)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536613)

You are right, but I'm not sure how it relates to the topic at hand, since I didn't see anywhere that Anderson said he was waiting for the price of hardware to drop to zero. Did you see that anywhere?

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (1)

welcher (850511) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537003)

He might not be saying that infrastructure etc will become free, but he is saying that the cost is negligible. One of Gladwell's points is that even that assumption is incorrect - these costs, even if individually small, become important when multiplied (as in the youtube case).

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (1)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537051)

OK, I see you have read the articles, but I don't see how your comment fits in this thread. Maybe you were trying to reply to a different comment? Alternately, it would be helpful if you added a sentence or two explaining how it relates.

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (1)

Narpak (961733) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536641)

However, they have infrastructure costs of somewhere around $300 million a year, which they haven't been able to cover with advertising.

According to this article - "YouTube May Lose $470 Million In 2009" [multichannel.com]

According to the firm's analysis of YouTube traffic and ad strategies, the site is on track to generate about $240 million in revenue in 2009, up about 20% year over year.

But the cost of bandwidth, content licensing, ad-revenue shares, hardware storage, sales and marketing and other expenses will total about $711 million, putting YouTube squarely in the red, the Credit Suisse report estimated. Bandwidth accounts for about 51% of expenses -- with a run rate of $1 million per day -- with content licensing accounting for 36%.

To arrive at the estimated $360 million bandwidth tab for YouTube, the analysts assumed the site will receive 375 million unique visitors in 2009 and that a maximum of 20% of those users are on the site at any given time. Credit Suisse's analysis then assumed each user downloads a video at 400 kilobits per second, to yield a peak bit run-rate for YouTube of 30 million megabits per second.

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (2, Insightful)

BlackSabbath (118110) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537075)

I think people keep mistaking "free" for "Freedom". "free" quite literally means no price. "Freedom" means having the latitude to do certain things you want to do.

If I understand the nature of something that I accept for "free" then I have consciously made a decision to spend whatever personal effort is required to extract some value out of this "free" thing. Does my effort make the thing less "free"? Presumably, I know what I'm doing and still think its worth the price of my personal effort. This decision could be made for numerous reasons:
- I'm ignorant and naively think that "free" means no personal effort is required
- weighing the "personal effort" cost vs the cost of the non-free alternative
- weighing the "personal effort" cost vs future/indirect/other returns
- personal satisfaction/growth/principles/other emotional driver
Setting aside any possible naivete, the other reasons in my personal equation imply that despite a personal cost I still think "free" is worth it. This is irrespective of which side of the "free" offer I am on (provider/recipient).

"Freedom" is similar to "free" in that most people accept that there is an embedded cost somewhere that they are prepared to pay e.g. my freedom to flail my fists ends at the tip of your nose. My freedom to spout on about freedom is codependent on your freedom to spout on about subjects I may find personally abhorrent. Even with those "costs", I still think "Freedom" is worth it.

Your MBA friend is spot on - these are basic ideas. And the Times should be castigated for referring to these guys as "two of the world's leading thinkers".

Re:The biggest point, in my opinion (1)

Raffaello (230287) | more than 5 years ago | (#28538211)

RMS, is that you?

YouTube does not have to make money (2, Insightful)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537383)

It is common knowledge that has been confirmed by various higher-ups at Google over the past few years, that as far as Google is concerned, "What is good for The Web, is good for Google". Google spends hundreds of millions per year on various free giveaways that it will not now or probably ever recoup costs on - things like Chrome, supporting Firefox, YouTube, etc.

Why does it do this? Because the more people utilize the web, the more it becomes the center of their daily lives, they more they will rely on Google as the librarian of all of that knowledge - which means they will get more money from their ads.

Google does not have to make money any project it launches, as long as whatever it is doing is going to cause you to use the web more in one way or another, because they know if you are using the web, then you are probably going to be searching it with Google.com.

Commoditization inevitable? (1)

Mandrel (765308) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537695)

I think Anderson is kind of stumbling upon a point an MBA told me once, that given enough time, all new technology becomes a commodity. There are a dozen word processors you can choose from, a dozen different types computers, a dozen types of memory to choose from, hundreds of flash game sites (which are free, but 20 years ago people paid real money for games just like those). So for the most part, things will get sold for a little more than the cost to create them (the MBA then went on to tell me a number of different techniques to 'lock in' customers to your product: trapping users with file format was one, there were many other more devious methods, and Microsoft uses many of them. I don't underestimate quality MBAs anymore).

Commoditization is usually a surface phenomenon. When you start using things you always find little niggles and poor design choices that you have to learn to live with, because you didn't have the knowledge and time to choose a more suitable product.

There is so much potential for marketers to make their products stand out, and even deserve a premium, by giving their potential customers more help, rather than just agenda-pushing ads and blurb.

This help can be provided by independent consumer advisors. There are ways for product makers to encourage and reward the people who help their customers, without compromising the independence of these advisors.

Wikipedia, wtf? (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536333)

Did it appear to anyone else that we may have temporarily slahdotted wiki? This may be the first time that that anyone's ever actually had to click the links to find out whats going on, so it seems plausible. At least its working again now.

Re:Wikipedia, wtf? (1)

DriedClexler (814907) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536417)

I don't think Wikipedia was slashdotted because I can confirm I got the error message shortly before the story was posted when I tried to look up an article.

Unless of course, the Firehosers slashdotted it. Do we still have the Firehose? I mean, a real Firehose, that like, doesn't look like a psychedelic trip that crashes your browser and has no option to revert to a pre-sharkjump format?

Re:Wikipedia, wtf? (1)

CecilPL (1258010) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536421)

Nope, it's been up and down for at least an hour now.

Re:Wikipedia, wtf? (1)

owlnation (858981) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536655)

Did it appear to anyone else that we may have temporarily slahdotted wiki?

Nah, Jimbo probably just censored it.

Re:Wikipedia, wtf? (1)

jonadab (583620) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537131)

> Did it appear to anyone else that we may have temporarily slahdotted wiki?

Not likely. Wikipedia handles more traffic in an hour than slashdot gets in a day.

Wikipedia does occasionally get more traffic than it can handle promptly and return results slowly, but a link from slashdot has nothing to do with this.

Business models need to change with the times. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28536437)

They're both a bit wrong. Info on the net isn't free. I pay for an internet connection. People pay for computers to connect to the internet, or pay the travel cost (which still takes time, although public transport, fuel costs or even food to power their legs/arms also have costs) to a library or other free location.

The reality is that the cost to access information and collect information has changed dramatically. This is true for the newspaper producers, their access to info from reporters etc. is less costly now. It's also true for the consumer. The information people used to be happy to buy from newspapers is easier to get in other ways now. That's just the way things are.

I can understand newspaper people who complain about their lost revenue and whine about people who think the information isn't worth as much as it used to be. The business model for manure haulers and buggy whip makers changed too. That's life. Propping up failed business models with taxpayer funds or new laws to keep prices high for something that just isn't worth the old price, seems like the wrong thing to do. It just encourages large corporations to not worry about being economically viable.

Re:Business models need to change with the times. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28537469)

The cost to access and collect information has not changed in the slightest. Reporters are still people, they still get paid, they still travel to where the stories are, etc. Same for editors, and everyone else involved. Newspapers have been sharing stories via wire services for the better part of a century, so not much has changed there either. In fact, the only thing that has changed is the actual printing and distributing of the physical papers.

Can we please stop with the stupid buggy whip comparisons? Buggy whip manufacturers did not go out of business because someone decided to go around handing out buggy whips for free. They went out of business because something better came along, and the better thing actually had a sustainable business model. So far, no-one has demonstrated a sustainable business model for 'free news', unless you call bloggers 'reporters'.

Matthew Yglesias' take (5, Informative)

sphealey (2855) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536565)

Political analyst Matthew Yglesias over at CAP has a fairly good take on both the book and the review [thinkprogress.org] at the CAP web site.

sPh

Matthew Yglesias' take: Summary (2, Interesting)

cmholm (69081) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537229)

Damn, you beat me to it. To your link [google.com] , I'll add the abstract of his post:

Where Anderson goes off the rails is his suggestion that the "give it away" business model is actually a promising business model.

Competition is good for customers because it destroys profits. The way you make real money is by getting into situations where you're insulated from competition. Meanwhile, as market sectors turn to a Free business model, they're just going to become way less lucrative.

Example: YouTube loses money. But since Google as a whole can easily afford to cover YouTube's losses, it's hard to see Google management shutting down a market-leader. As the underlying technology gets cheaper the scale of the losses should get smaller, making it ever-more-realistic to run the business at a loss and thus ever-less-likely that a pay-to-play vendor can move in and charge monopoly rents.

That's the real lesson of Free. The combination of competition, the near-zero marginal cost of production, and the customer draw of zero pricing means that the market-leader in video is bound to lose money. To win the market, you need to make your product Free. But while your marginal cost is near-zero, it's not actually zero, so you're losing money.

Re:Matthew Yglesias' take: Summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28537641)

So what is really being said is that the only ones who can afford to play in the 'free' business models are huge corporations with enough profits from other areas of their businesses to cover the losses from 'free'. That is good for consumers? What is going to cause anyone to enter a 'free' market, if there is no money to be made? That will not increase competition or stir advances in those fields (which are almost always paid for and motivated by profits). That is good for consumers? I think the real lesson of free is that people are incredibly short-sighted, and can't/won't see how their insistence on free today will lead to much fewer choices and diversity tomorrow.

Hack vs. the Void (4, Interesting)

sam_handelman (519767) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536777)

Malcolm Gladwell is one of those people, not precisely stupid, but so shallow and lacking in insight that he makes Chris Anderson, who is simply a hack, look brilliant by comparison. Gladwell, lest we forget, specializes in gushing soft journalism pieces on people whom he has designated as "great". He's what I call a Mensa bottom feeder - he produces work for people who like to think about how smart they are, which is not how actually-smart people spend their time.

  Gladwell wouldn't know what to do with an actual idea if he had one (I envisage a dog with a great piece of artwork [walrusmagazine.com] , sort of chewing on it.) Now, Anderson's piece is competent hackery, which is better than most people could do I don't mean this critically, but something about it intersects with the sort of faux-highbrow pablum that Gladwell thinks he understands. This is very threatning to Gladwell - going back to the dog analogy, it's like he's got some glimpse of a world of ideas and there's a threat to him there that he can't really understand. Gladwell is getting good money to stick his nose up Bill Gates' behind and there's an army of other dogs willing to do that for free. So he lashes out in a rage, and since he can dimly percieve Anderson (but not the more interesting and provocative people whose work Anderson has extended), Anderson becomes his target.

  Again, I have nothing against a competent hack. But I do have some real criticism for Anderson - seriously, you admire Gladwell?

Re:Hack vs. the Void (1)

yascha (1526775) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537243)

+1 the parent; great post.

Mod parent up (1)

DriedClexler (814907) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537723)

Well put. Would have used my mod points, but I had already comments on how painful it is to read Gladwell, especially knowing people take him seriously.

Not a book review (2, Insightful)

lyinhart (1352173) | more than 5 years ago | (#28536971)

No, this is not a book review. And yes, in his books Gladwell does state the "obvious" and isn't always on point with his assertions. But in this critique of Anderson's ideas, Gladwell makes his point with one phrase: Free: The Future of a Radical Price (Hyperion; $26.99) Yes, for all of Anderson's extolling of the virtues of free content, he's still selling his book for money.

Watched his keynote Sunday at NECC09... (1)

parliboy (233658) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537011)

...and it was basically a verbal blowjob for KIPP. When he wasn't doing that, he was praising Japanese models while poo-pooing different levels of ability, while Japanese models are super differentiated to the point that you have to earn your way into high school. Just a hodgepodge of inconsistencies that made his speech (pun intended) an outlier.

Ug! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28537073)

The summary reads like gay flame fest.

Re:Ug! (0, Flamebait)

StellarFury (1058280) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537165)

Malcolm Gladwell reads like gay flame fest.

(FTFY)

Try "The Tipping Point."

Chris Anderson is not a hypocrit (1)

nausea_malvarma (1544887) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537385)

Gladwell just doesn't get it. Chris Anderson IS finding ways to make money off of giving things for free.

No really, he took something free (wikipedia) and charged money for it.

Gladwell vs. Anderson? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28537425)

Man, it's not exactly clash of the intellectual titans, is it?

In a year (1)

hansoloaf (668609) | more than 5 years ago | (#28537715)

no one is gonna care.

"Free" is an approximation. (1)

hey! (33014) | more than 5 years ago | (#28538113)

It's not strictly true to talk about the kinds of economic models Anderson is talking about (if I understand this correctly) as "free". They just involve transactions on the consumer end that are too small to bother collecting money for -- from the consumer. That's not anything particularly revolutionary. Television ran for years that way with advertising revenues.

But if you look at television news, you see the Achilles heel of these models when it comes to journalism. The three national networks for many years had news shows which were produced to serious journalistic standards. But local news was a practically a by-word for cheap sensationalism. "If it bleeds it leads". It's not that it is impossible to have high quality local news, newspapers did it for years. It just wasn't economical to put the effort in for local markets unless the consumer ponied up dough.

The secret of "free" information is that those tiny increments of consumer value -- usually eyeball time on an advertisement, but it could possibly be other thigns -- can be aggregated on an enormous scale into packages that are valuable enough to pay for things like journalism. Under Internet models, local news gathered to journalistic standards is not economical.

Now various crowd source models such as twitter have their place in the information ecosystem. They may beat journalism to the punch in many instances, or correct mistakes journalists make. But we need journalists to correct the mistakes the crowd makes even more. You can't use a model like Wikipedia as proof that quality journalism is possible with volunteers. Journalism is much more difficult than holding forth on a topic you might know a little (or a lot) about. Suggesting that something like Wikipedia can replace journalism is like suggesting it can replace science.

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