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Some Overheating 3GS iPhones Glow Pink

kdawson posted more than 5 years ago | from the twenty-first-century-hearth dept.

Bug 364

Hugh Pickens writes "The Telegraph reports that dozens of users of the recently released iPhone 3GS have reported overheating issues, with some iPhone owners unable to pick up the device because the handset gets so hot to the touch, while others say the casing turns pink with the heat. 'I am definitely experiencing issues with the iPhone running warm and quick battery life lost,' writes Tom Goldstein on one discussion board. 'The phone seems to warm up almost immediately if I am doing anything that pulls data over the network.' Some users have said the device has been too hot to put to their ear while making a phone call, and others say the overheating seems to occur when owners are using the iPhone's mapping software, which uses the handset's built-in GPS technology. Melissa J. Perenson writes at PC World: 'I became aware the handset had become very hot. Very, very hot — not just on the back, but the entire length of the front face, too.' Some gadget experts believe faulty batteries could be the cause of overheating and poor battery life. 'My guess is there's going to be a whole lot of batteries affected because these [iPhones] are from very large production runs,' said Aaron Vronko, who fixes iPods and iPhones. 'If you have a problem in the design of a series of batteries, it's probably going to be spread to tens of thousands [of device], if not hundreds of thousands, and maybe more.'"

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Provably False (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28539821)

Simple logic shows these claims to be provably false:

1. 'teh iPhone' is 'teh Best Thing Ever'

2. 'teh Best Thing Ever' obviously doesn't overheat and discolour

Therefore

'teh iPhone' doesn't overheat and discolour.

QED

iPhone 3GS - Cooled By Pure Apple Fanboyism? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28539935)

Apple obviously designed the iPhone 3GS to be cooled by pure Apple fanboyism. People having problems obviously aren't the true believers.

iPhone owner checklist:

* Are you making sure to bring up your iPhone in EVERY single conversation no matter how irrelevant it is to what you are talking about?

* Are you making sure you are holding your iPhone in the most BLATANTLY OBVIOUS way possible in all public places?

* Are you flaming each and every single post on the Net that dares to criticize the iPhone?

* Are you making good use of your mod points on Net messageboards and BURY the Apple unbelievers?

Making sure you are doing your part should keep your precious iPhone perfectly safe and as pristine as the glorious moment you saw Steve Jobs on stage cradle it in his hands.

Re:iPhone 3GS - Cooled By Pure Apple Fanboyism? (4, Funny)

Big Hairy Ian (1155547) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540009)

B3ta had a compo which I believe is relevant to this thread

http://www.b3ta.com/challenge/iphone/ [b3ta.com]

Re:iPhone 3GS - Cooled By Pure Apple Fanboyism? (5, Funny)

malkman (539215) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540161)

Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.

Well heck, with this phone I don't think we'll have a problem with that!

Re:iPhone 3GS - Cooled By Pure Apple Fanboyism? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540571)

Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.

Now, there's an app for that too!

Re:Provably False (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540035)

Odd. You forgot axiom 3: "teh iPhone overheats and/or discolours"

Theorem 4, which is a synthesis of axioms 2 and 3, states "teh iPhone is clearly not teh Best Thing Ever".

Thus postulate 1 is proven false as it contradicts theorem 4.

HTH :)

Re:Provably False (3, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540419)

iM surprised they don't charge 50 bucks more and call it a mood phone.

Re:Provably False (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540055)

Actually it's an indicator light that tells the processor is working hard. Only Steve could come up with something as ingenious as this.

Re:Provably False (1)

ionix5891 (1228718) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540095)

3. Apple cant do no wrong

Re:Provably False (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540145)

I agree!

should have released it in winter (1)

cheekyboy (598084) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540171)

Then they can claim it has a built in heater.

Test your products both in cold climates and 40c+ climates. btw apple, black sucks, it absorbes heat in the sun shine.

Re:should have released it in winter (2, Insightful)

peragrin (659227) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540255)

well take a quick look around at other smart phones. some 80% of them are what? black.

there are silver ones and a few random other colours but most are black.

No the only thing apple should be ashamed of is poor battery design and over clocking the processor to make idiots happy.

Re:should have released it in winter (1)

d3ac0n (715594) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540305)

well take a quick look around at other smart phones. some 80% of them are what? black.

there are silver ones and a few random other colours but most are black.

And now we see WHY black is the preferred color for smartphones. It's far less likely to discolor due to the heat the device puts out.

That, and sexy little things and cool things ALWAYS properly come in BLACK. Seriously, who has ever heard of the "sexy little WHITE dress", or "Back in WHITE" or "Always bet on WHITE"?

You want cool and sexy, go get a Palm Pre. It's Linux based you know. C'mon. You know you want one.

Re:should have released it in winter (1)

Kensai7 (1005287) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540397)

That, and sexy little things and cool things ALWAYS properly come in BLACK. Seriously, who has ever heard of the "sexy little WHITE dress", or "Back in WHITE" or "Always bet on WHITE"?

If you go WHITE you won't go back... lol

Re:should have released it in winter (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540353)

Umm the CPU is underclocked... http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/06/iphone-teardown-reveals-underclocked-833mhz-cpu/

Re:should have released it in winter (1, Informative)

SeaFox (739806) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540457)

No the only thing apple should be ashamed of is poor battery design and over clocking the processor to make idiots happy

Overclocked processor? [wired.com] Maybe you should learn not to post false information.

Also, even if Apple designed the batteries, they didn't build them themselves. Poor manufacturing and QC of individual components isn't Apple's fault. Just as exploding Sony batteries isn't Dell's.

Re:should have released it in winter (2, Informative)

eserteric (442678) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540553)

If I recall correctly the 3GS process is actually underclocked to run cooler. I want to say it's an 800MHz running at 600MHz, but I'm not certain about those numbers.

Re:should have released it in winter (4, Informative)

emlyncorrin (818871) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540411)

btw apple, black sucks, it absorbes heat in the sun shine.

How often do you leave your phone out in direct sunlight? And black radiates heat better, so in the shade it will cool down faster.

Re:Provably False (1)

rinoid (451982) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540475)

Actually with the built in iPhone word predictor you don't really get that kind of misspelling.

#justsaying

unable to pick up the device (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28539823)

it isn't a bug, it's a feature

Re:unable to pick up the device (5, Funny)

RDW (41497) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539979)

'it isn't a bug, it's a feature'

Absolutely! This is just more Apple-hating propaganda. Everyone in the iPhone community knows this is an auto-repair feature, designed to weld together all those cracks in the casing [google.co.uk] .

Re:unable to pick up the device (2, Interesting)

token_username (1415329) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540343)

anyone try iPhone eggs yet?

Re:unable to pick up the device (4, Funny)

Carewolf (581105) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540073)

Well, you _can_ pick it up.

It just burns stuck in your hand so you can't let go of it. Definitely a feature!

Plus, you smell like bacon!

Re:unable to pick up the device (1)

zeromorph (1009305) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540253)

Indeed it is! It changes colour - neet - and - of all colours - it turns pink, OMG! Additionally it functions as a pocket heater, who on earth could think it is a bug.

Android G1 also heats when using GPS (5, Interesting)

Simon Brooke (45012) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539827)

My Android G1 - normally cool (in the thermal sense) heats quickly when using GPS for sustained periods. It doesn't become uncomfortable to hold or to use but it's definitely noticable. My bet is that the iPhone problem is also GPS related.

Re:Android G1 also heats when using GPS (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540107)

GPS chip vendors are in untested territory lately, miniaturization of GPS chip is a huge race going on since GPS chips were designed 4-5 years ago in times when ''real'' GPS devices which are bulky and having lots of space.

I wonder if they use the same chip, there aren't many chip vendors as one may think, just look at how many different wireless chip vendors out there... Not many.

Re:Android G1 also heats when using GPS (5, Informative)

ct1972 (814272) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540141)

When I truck a lot of traffic over 3G to the G1 I also seem to have some overheating problems, albeit not as severe as those being discussed above. Notably trying to watch TV in beebplayer seems to cause overheating which may or may not be why the video often halts for me in that application. That might tally with those proclaiming general traffic as being a problem too. PS. No idea why you've been modded off topic, since a comparison of similar issues with other phones seems highly relevant to me. Had I mod points I'd have corrected that.

Re:Android G1 also heats when using GPS (1)

El_Muerte_TDS (592157) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540143)

My Android G1 also gets warm when using 3G or Wifi. It's warm, not hot. And it's always in the lower part of the phone (the part with the scroll wheel).

Re:Android G1 also heats when using GPS (1)

patch0 (1339585) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540153)

My iPhone 3GS definitely heats up when using GPS, noticed it this weekend while lost on the way to a wedding...

Re:Android G1 also heats when using GPS (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540429)

I have a Generation 1 iPhone when I am doing a lot of browsing over edge or WiFi it gets noticeably warm too. Not Hot just warm. It is probably just the CPU heating up from the extra work. the 3G S cpu probably had some variation in its manufacture or during the iphone manufacture process a step was missed or the wrong quantity was used, or just replaced with a different part that seemed equal but had issues. Perhaps the overheating iPhones actually go faster then the non-overheating ones.

Re:Android G1 also heats when using GPS (5, Interesting)

vlm (69642) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540547)

My bet is that the iPhone problem is also GPS related.

My somewhat ancient Garmin GPS runs for somewhat over a day continuous on two AA batteries. It has a nice full color screen about the size of a iphone although much lower resolution. It is an inch or two larger than an iphone in all dimensions but that's mostly empty space... its engineered to be less dense than water, so as to float.

So, thats about 3 volts at about 1.5 amp-hours equals about 4.5 watt-hours.

Dividing 4.5 watthours by a pessimistic 24 hours, gives 188 milliwatts.

I'm sure a decade or so newer engineering results in much lower power consumption. Checking out the technical specifications PDF for the first google I found:

http://www.latitudetechnology.com/gps_module.html [latitudetechnology.com]

You're looking at about 23 mA at about 3 volts, for a whopping 70 milliwatts, almost a third less for an "april of 2009" GPS module. Technology marches onward I guess.

1) A quarter watt dumped in a case that large is not going to be detectably warmer, but it'll probably be almost enough to stop dew from condensing on the surface, most of the time. Dew will condense on the surface of my powered up GPS in extreme weather conditions. To get "warm" with a quarter watt, compare the tiny volume and tiny surface area of a typical quarter-watt power resistor to an iphone.

2) Considering handheld cellphones are allowed to transmit 600 mW and I suspect the overall RF section is less than 50% efficient, the phone probably dumps at least 3 times the heat from its RF section than its GPS section. Then probably about half the emitted RF gets adsorbed by the users hands, figure about a watt of total heat in the hands just from the transmitter. GPS or no, will not be noticeable.

The problem is not the GPS module. Now a GPS application could "require" a multi-core GHZ class pentium processor at full blast, but thats a software engineering problem not a "GPS" problem, since obviously a "real handheld GPS" does the same task without turning into a handwarmer. A bad enough programmer could make a tetris that would burn your hands, but that doesn't mean tetris is the problem.

Oh hey no problem (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28539831)

Apple can just deal with this like everyone else, right? You know, send a whole bunch of batteries to the retail stores, and those affected can come in, pop off the back of the phone, replace the battery, and drop off the old one. No need to send the phone back or anything.

Re:Oh hey no problem (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540091)

I don't wish for such a thing as it would really hit Apple big time and even effect us, Apple Desktop users hating iPhone but man... It would be ultimate justice for designing first ever popular handheld Unix device and locking it in a way that user can't even change the battery.

Re:Oh hey no problem (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540199)

Why would someone with a discoloured case just want a new battery? They'd go for a new device entirely.

Hence your post is pointless.

OMG!!!!111! (4, Funny)

adavies42 (746183) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539841)

It's a pony-phone!

Re:OMG!!!!111! (3, Funny)

fractoid (1076465) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539877)

iLittlePony? :P

Re:OMG!!!!111! (4, Funny)

adavies42 (746183) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539885)

and if you're into jailbreaking, iLittlePwny

Re:OMG!!!!111! (1)

ocularDeathRay (760450) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540031)

and if Homer gets to eat it: mmmmmmmmmmmmm iLittlePwny

Re:OMG!!!!111! (1)

El_Muerte_TDS (592157) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540157)

But watch out for the Chinese knock-offs being sold under the name "iPhony"

Hmmmm ... (5, Insightful)

YeeHaW_Jelte (451855) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539851)

... testing anyone?

It seems Apple has a hard time learning that electronics cause heat and that this heat needs to be led away from the device.

I can remember several cases ( MacBooks, iMacs, what have you) where they've had overheating issues ... pretty sloppy engineering if you ask me.

Re:Hmmmm ... (3, Insightful)

lxs (131946) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539945)

I doubt that it is sloppy engineering, but in their quest for ever smaller aesthetically pleasing case design they may be sailing a little too close to the edge of what is technically possible.

A bit like the Xbox360 really (ok minus the small form factor or the nice design, but at least they tried.)

Re:Hmmmm ... (5, Insightful)

gTsiros (205624) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540281)

"little too close to the edge of what is technically possible."

exactly.

pretty sloppy engineering.

Re:Hmmmm ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540561)

More like pretty sloppy QA. Since this doesn't happen to all iPhones, that indicates that the engineering is okay when built properly. It's the ones that aren't built properly that have the problems. And that's a quality assurance problem.

Re:Hmmmm ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540309)

The 360 had (IMO) really sloppy engineering due to a rush to the market... so with that example you are reinforcing his point.

They DO test it you insensitive clod... (5, Funny)

denzacar (181829) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539985)

It is just that all testing is done by a team of Eskimos. iNuit to be precise.

Re:They DO test it you insensitive clod... (5, Funny)

ocularDeathRay (760450) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540047)

The factory looks like an iGloo

Re:They DO test it you insensitive clod... (1)

wtfamidoinghere (1391517) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540209)

Oh man wish I had mod points right now!
iNuit ftw!

Re:They DO test it you insensitive clod... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540575)

iPhone iMplicated iN iNcinerated iGloo iNferno iNdigenous iNuit iNsist.

Re:Hmmmm ... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540189)

It's not just overheating, look at the rediculously easily scratch nanos, the fire hazard magsafe power adapters and the discolouration of MacBooks.

I wish Apple fans would let us drop the myth that Apple products are well engineered, the fact is they're not, they're shoddy as hell. People suggest the price you pay for Apple kit is for quality but that's just bollocks, it's low quality kit made in Asian sweatshops and poorly engineered without proper testing.

The fact is, all you pay for with Apple is the prestige factor, they're seen as high end devices that all the cool people have and nothing more. Apple does not produce quality products.

Re:Hmmmm ... (2, Informative)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540485)

It seems hardware manufacturers have a hard time learning that electronics cause heat and that this heat needs to be led away from the device.

Fixed that for you.

It has nothing to do with Apple - all hardware manufacturers seem to have problems. A quick look at google for "laptop battery catches fire" turns up this [consumerist.com] story about a Dell battery catching fire, this [gizmodo.com] story about an IBM catching fire, and this [v3.co.uk] story about a Toshiba catching fire. And we know those three stories aren't rare - those were just quick search results to prove a point.

If you're going to pick on a manufacturer for a faulty battery issue, make sure you don't portray it to be something unique to that manufacturer when it's actually something that occurs pretty much across the board.

Re:Hmmmm ... (1)

samkass (174571) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540513)

Considering that Apple has sold millions of these things already and a relatively few are having problems, I don't think testing would likely have caught this issue. Besides, it sounds like a software problem not a hardware problem. Almost no embedded device is designed to be run with everything pegged at 100% for extended periods... obviously some bug in the OS is doing so.

Bug or Feature? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28539855)

Glowing pink.... is that a bug or a feature?

Re:Bug or Feature? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28539861)

Feature. The pink glow indicates that you have downloaded and watched enough pr0n to seriously impact your phone bill.

Does this prove it ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28539871)

An iPhone is heat is gay ?

Battery Concerns (2, Interesting)

alistair (31390) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539913)

Having just upgraded from the first iPhone to the 3GS I have to say I am disappointed with the battery life on the new handset, it's certainly not the improvement I was expecting from reviews. With Wi-Fi and location services turned off and very light usage I can get just about 2 days out of it, normal use sees it being recharged every night which is inferior to the old model. I was contemplating returning it to O2 but before I did that I wanted to know if there are any standard tests to see if my battery is that much worse than normal, e.g. the phone plays a movie for 5.5 hours at 75% brightness or play music through headphones for 9 hours from full charge etc. Any thoughts? Reviews also seemed to suggest there was a better battery meter in this model but I haven't seen it, 20% charge remaining still seems to mean run for a recarger, not you have 20% of the usage time you would get from a full charge left.

Re:Battery Concerns (4, Informative)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539947)

Try reading this post on CNET [cnet.co.uk] I've not read it, but it seems to be relevant.

There's definately an issue of some sort (5, Informative)

Cyberllama (113628) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539915)

I think there is a software issue that causes something to start draining power at a crazy rate non-stop. I turned on the percentage battery indicator on my 3gs and one day I noticed it was running kind of hot and I looked at the indicator and saw the battery % had gotten crazy low really fast so I just set the phone down and watched.

I was losing like 1% every minute while running nothing other than the OS itself. WTF? That's like under 2 hour battery life while doing NOTHING but staring at the home screen -- you're supposed to be able to watch video for 6-7 hours, right?

So I powered my phone off completely, then let it reboot. Whatever it was, it went away. After that it ran smooth, no extra heat, battery indicator stayed at the same percent as I stared at homescreen for 5+ minutes and it was perfectly fine for the rest of the day. No clue what happened there, but something was draining power non-stop until I rebooted the thing. I assume it wasn't the processor, because it wasn't locked up -- so perhaps it was a modem issue.

It's quite possible that had I not noticed this issue and rebooted my phone I might have ended up with a pink one as well.

It can be CPU (5, Interesting)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540061)

I am about to file a bug report to a Symbian beta software because I busted it using amazing amounts of CPU if it changes the wireless network while other network it was connected is doing kinda OK with 30-40 percent levels.

It is more like Apple OS X scheme of things, access point groups. Issue comes from application since it has its own access points code. Doesn't use system's built in.

How could I figure the huge CPU load? Simple, battery went hot and died in hours. It is like old fashion way of figuring CPU load.

What I mean is don't eliminate CPU immediately, they are portable devices running portable CPU which was never designed for 24/7 full CPU load.

What we need is, some heroic blog hack the iPhone 3G, install standard UNIX tools (ps) and run ps -aux (or top) whenever it gets hot. I am NOT suggesting it to actual iPhone 3GS owners. You bought it, report bug to Apple using http://bugreporter.apple.com/ [apple.com] . Duplicate reports are always welcome at Apple, they work like ''vote''.

Re:There's definately an issue of some sort (4, Informative)

ocularDeathRay (760450) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540079)

I had an issue like that with my old blackberry pearl. I was beta testing some software from my broker and after you loaded the quotes page once, it would continue to download data until you pulled the battery. It would get extremely hot, I didn't notice the problem for a couple hours the first time it happened. I could smell electronics starting to burn and checked over all the computers around my desk before I realized it was my phone. I think you are on to something, could easily be a buggy app causing this.

Re:There's definately an issue of some sort (4, Informative)

Bakafish (114674) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540127)

I had the same experience with a iPhone 3G (not 3GS) after upgrading to OS 3.0 Some stuck process drained my battery to zero in a very short period of time. I wasn't near my charger, and initially I thought that the unit had died. I've never drained the battery before, and trying to power it up in that state didn't give a response of any kind. Once I got home I was relieved when it woke up after docking it.

This is an OS issue I think, not the battery. The side effect is heat and reduced life though. I'd imagine that the thermal monitoring isn't able to shutdown the unit when it gets into that state. I wasn't handling my unit at the time so I don't know if there was heat related to the event.

Re:There's definately an issue of some sort (4, Interesting)

IamTheRealMike (537420) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540391)

I assume it wasn't the processor, because it wasn't locked up -- so perhaps it was a modem issue.

Although Apple don't want you to know it, the iPhone OS is actually a multi-tasking OS at heart, so a spinning process won't lock up the processor. It'll just keep the CPU pegged at 100% and flatten the battery. What might cause such a thing? On Android, most of the software is written in Java so the only way to make it spin like that is to actually enter a real infinite loop. The iPhone is (rather questionably imho) written in Objective-C, which uses manual memory management and thus lets you do double frees, buffer overruns etc. A classic cause of infinite loops in C based apps is heap arena corruption - you smash the heap control structures in some way, and then malloc or free go into an infinite loop trying to find a free block. Most mallocs don't do much error checking for performance reasons.

What I suspect happens is that there's a subtle memory error in a part of iPhone 3.0 which causes some background process to start spinning inside malloc. The iPhone 3GS has a more powerful processor than its predecessor and it's possible that Apple decided (riskily imho) that it was OK if they couldn't dissipate the heat from a pegged CPU because they would try and ensure the CPU never pegged in software. For instance they might be throttling user applications (I have no evidence of that, it's just a theory). However that overlooks the possibility that their own software would accidentally peg the CPU for some time .... leading to the result we have here.

Ouch (1)

sonicmerlin (1505111) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539925)

If this is what happens when Steve Jobs is absent from Apple for 6 months, I shudder to think what will happen when he's permanently gone. As arrogant and bone-headed as Apple can seem sometimes, there's no doubt it's lead extremely well.

Re:Ouch (1)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540225)

If this is what happens when Steve Jobs is absent from Apple for 6 months, I shudder to think what will happen when he's permanently gone. As arrogant and bone-headed as Apple can seem sometimes, there's no doubt it's lead extremely well.

There might be something in this. I've often wondered about the "leadership" of boards of directors and similar groups, and maybe this kind of thing shows that companies really do need to be lead by an individual, not a committee.

New App perhaps ? (1)

BeANeR_UK (879307) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539927)

Perhaps the heat thing is a new app, for use in colder climates,... - ihotwaterbottle ?

iMitten (1)

denzacar (181829) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540003)

Keeps your hands warm in the winter.

Obviously (5, Funny)

Rhaban (987410) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539953)

The iphone just isn't cool anymore.

Re:Obviously (4, Funny)

oogoliegoogolie (635356) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540137)

It's still hotter than any other smartphone!

Re:Obviously (1)

ascendant (1116807) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540147)

Apologize.

Re:Obviously (2, Funny)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540211)

Actually, it never was. [thebestpag...iverse.net]

It's one of those things that are like the hairstyles and clothes of the 80s. We will some day wonder, why people bought them. :)

It's Real Name (1)

timothyb89 (1259272) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539957)

I guess the added "S" is for "Scorching".

Still, I've yet to find a phone that doesn't do this. My Palm Centro gets quite hot when using the antenna for any extended period of time (streaming a video or something). Every now and then it gets so hot I have to pull the battery out to wait for it to cool down.

Maybe the pink glow is a creative way to make the best out of an unavoidable problem? :)

Re:It's Real Name (2, Insightful)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540207)

Still, I've yet to find a phone that doesn't do this.

Maybe the manufacturers need to realize that many users will user their devices as advertised, and not at the designed-for minimal usage patterns. Some people actually will stream a video, just like the ads say you can; they won't just make calls, take photos, and SMS their friends. Manufacturers need to reconsider their expectations for actual current draw, and include routines and hardware to check for excessive heat and runaway processes drawing too much juice.

There's an app for that (5, Funny)

supercytro (527265) | more than 5 years ago | (#28539967)

If you need to cook your food in the wilderness or light a campfire, there's an app for that...

Re:There's an app for that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540181)

it's called iCrumble. bakes you a nice apple crumble.

Obviously the user's fault (3, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540007)

The iPhone was supposed to be used by cool people who can easily take the heat.

A Boon for Paris Hilton (1)

eBayDoug (764290) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540025)

She can have a pink iPhone and say "That's Hot" and not look like a douchebag.

gayPhone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540027)

iKnew that there iS someTiNg gay iN iPhone!

saw this on El Reg yesterday (5, Funny)

tiggertaebo (1480739) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540033)

Sounds like a fairly straight forward case of there being a few dodgy units out there to me - not exactly the biggest surprise when you consider the number of units produced and the short development/testing cycles people have to get new gadgets out these days. Apple aren't the only ones this sort of thing has happened to and they certainly won't be the last.

Watching all the fanbois go up in flames (bah-dum-tish) was however pure internet entertainment!

"nuh-huh didn't happen!"

"they are using it wrong"

"its normal!! laptops can browse the internet and gets hot - the iphone can browse the internet and gets hot. Same thing innit?"

"it's cos of the mega-fast hardware - it just shows how awesome it is"

"YOU'RE ALL JEALOUS!!"

As I expect there will be some of the same along here shortly I'll grab some popcorn :)

Re:saw this on El Reg yesterday (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540069)

Funny how the internet usually brings out the extremist in people. You either get "sure shows how the iPhone sucks" or you get "you're too stupid to use it right, plain to see 'cause mine works fine".

There's no room for "maybe a faulty batch? Or some popular app that literally burns through the battery juice?"

Anyway, I'll bring the soda.

This goes to show (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540049)

that the iPhone is reaching out to those good with colours which makes it the best thing ever!

Shocking (1)

iMac Were (911261) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540059)

others say the casing turns pink with the heat.

I like pink, but I prefer the brown, if you know what I mean ;-)

Yikes! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540125)

You prefer homosex with niggers over deepdicking pussy??? Fag.

That's to be expected (1)

houbou (1097327) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540081)

Wow, I'm not surprised at reading this. Obviously simple. The more apps you are running, the more CPU you require.. the more power you need. If the apps require power for wireless/GPS transmission to boot, well, a short battery life is to be expected. Same as any other cell phone with features like games, messaging, etc... When I leave Windows Messenger running idle on my cell phone, the battery life goes down to 3 hrs.. If I close it, I last a full day. Ironic, because that's the behavior for all battery powered devices. Which is why a battery miser is a great feature to have on laptops as it allows you to control the amount of power consumption, by regulating and adjusting the power requirement of various components. I wonder if an iPhone has that?

Re:That's to be expected (1)

andi75 (84413) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540115)

Except that you can't run multiple apps on the iPhone, the only exceptions are the phone software, the ipod and internet tethering. But you can't run more than one custom application at the same time. Once you press the menu button to switch to another app the old one gets immediately suspended.

Re:That's to be expected (1)

cheros (223479) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540165)

Umm, no - the device should still be able to function safely when used normally - no excuses. Besides, there isn't that much multitasking going on, that's exactly one of the current complaints about the platform (I can live with it, however).

I'm thus happy that my current contract isn't at an end yet - I suspect this will be taken care of the few months I still have to go (not willing to pay extra for the switch other than the changed data tariff).

Re:That's to be expected (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540185)

The more apps you are running, the more CPU you require

iPhone is not capable of multi-tasking. Only one application is running at any time; The rest are "hibernated" so they (mostly) wake to the state they were last in when you load them again.

It's one of, if not the, biggest issues with the iPhone OS in my opinion.

Re:That's to be expected (3, Insightful)

rbarreira (836272) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540447)

Wow, I'm not surprised at reading this. Obviously simple.

Yes, I mean... who the hell wouldn't expect their new phone to quickly turn pink?

Wow! (1)

garry_g (106621) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540099)

Apple does it again, beating other companies to it ... iPhone now even with built-in iMicrostove !

Easy fix (5, Funny)

LinuxAndLube (1526389) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540103)

Why don't these people just put in a new battery?

Are they sure (1, Funny)

SupremoMan (912191) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540139)

Are they sure they didn't get the George Foreman Grill Edition?

In case it's not been said yet... (2, Informative)

know1 (854868) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540155)

Http://suregottold.com

From what I hear about Apple fanboys (4, Insightful)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540167)

iPhones Glow Pink

From what I hear about Apple fanboys this will be seen as an advantage.

Didn't they know that Jobs would return? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540195)

just asking

correlation is not causation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540215)

Which moron tagged the article with this? How does that even apply here?

Re:correlation is not causation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540371)

I don't know exactly how individual tags become visible to everyone (is it a decision made by /. editors or is it a popularity contest or both?) but it confirms my suspicions that the whole 'correlationisnotcausation' movement is being run by a bunch a knee-jerk idiots. That single tag is now used by these idiots to debunk vast swaths of science without so much as a neuron firing.

Sounds familiar (4, Interesting)

DissociativeBehavior (1397503) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540237)

I encountered the same issue when I was working on a low-end 2G phone. The problem was related to the DSP coprocessor. The plastic case almost melted after overheating for a night during a test campain. The device seemed to work OK after that. The problem is that maybe some components were harmed and it could cause some random failures afterwards. I would definetely ask for a new device after such overheating.

Same issue happen with my Nokia N81 (1)

ariefwn (130137) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540241)

when it becomes so hot, it becomes difficult/painful to hold by bare hand. it happens usually whenever i'am using 3G connection with a lot of open connections (i.e. my eBuddy account), or whenever needs reconnection (i.e. browsing on the road with connection changes between GPRS, EDGE and 3G --and no i'm not driving--). whenever this happens, the battery drains like monkey pee. the only solution to save the battery (avoid recharging) is to turn off the handphone immediately.

the shitty thing due this issue is sometimes i forgot to logout from eBuddy from the phone... I just put it on my trouser pocket and heat sometimes burn my testicles... damn, my sperm...

Re:Same issue happen with my Nokia N81 (1)

ariefwn (130137) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540251)

forgot to add, imho, the culprit is the 3G chip!

even more functions! (1)

GarretSidzaka (1417217) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540407)

Never again have to eat cold food when on the go!!
you can use the new iPhone to even heat up meals!!

Haven't seen anything like that so far (4, Informative)

jht (5006) | more than 5 years ago | (#28540439)

I've got a white 32GB iPhone 3GS, and no problems that severe. If I'm in extended use of the GPS/compass it does get warmer to the touch, as it will also do on lengthy phone calls (15 minutes plus or so). It also gets warmer when (surprise) playing games for an extended period. It hasn't gotten uncomfortably hot, nor has there been any discoloration so far.

As far as software issues, the only major one I've seen so far is that the Jawbone Prime headset I'd been using as my main headset has been having trouble with this phone - it disassociates sometimes and the button sequence to turn off the headset LED doesn't work anymore. My other headset (a Jabra 530) works fine so I've been using it.

Battery life has been pretty good so far - from my unscientific study it seems a little better than the 3G I had before that my wife now uses. Game playing drops it faster than voice or data, and web surfing does use more juice on 3G than on wifi.

There were a lot of BT and power management issues in the initial release of 2.0 last year. It took Apple a couple of releases over the first month or two to get things all the way right, and I suspect we'll have a couple of fast releases now as well.

The Apple trend with every new OS release (Mac or iPhone) is basically this:

- Limited public testing if any. Code freeze about a month before shipping.

- Initial bugfix release (.01) 2-4 weeks after the product shipped, with all the glaring bugs that they found after freeze addressed. This rarely has any problems found in initial public release addressed unless they're super-critical.

- About 2 months after release we get a .02 version that covers the main issues found after they got the product into public release. By this time the software is pretty solid - subsequent point releases during the product lifetime will add occasional minor features but mainly fix performance issues and/or security holes. Almost all the releases afterwards will be in the first 6-8 months when it's an iPhone OS - roughly 4 months before the next year's new OS version Apple will abandon the current one and concentrate on the announcements for the coming year.

So next February or so Apple will stop fixing 3.0 in preparation for 4.0 which will be announced around March and ship around June.

They basically do the same thing with the desktop OS - just the overall life cycle is longer. but the initial freeze/release/patch1/patch2 cycle applies there as well and on roughly the same timing.

So basically what I'm saying is that the problems that some 3GS users are having (but not me) are assuredly legit, and will likely be addressed in one of the first two bug-fix software releases for the phone. The first release will probably come in the next week or two and may address it - and within 1-2 months it will almost certainly be taken care of through power management. Not to mention that I'm sure my Bluetooth issue will be fixed as well. You get used to this. At least modern phones (iPhone, Android, Palm Pre) can and do now regularly get software updates to address issues.

I remember an era BI (before iPhone) where the carriers controlled software tightly, and the cell companies rarely or never released patches. There's no real good reason why Windows Mobile phones virtually never get OS updates for the installed base, or why the PalmOS Treos would take over a year to fix minor issues. Now that's properly in the hands of the vendors, where it belongs.

iPhone Porn is the reason (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28540463)

Too Hot to handle!.

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