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Secrets of Schizophrenia and Depression "Unlocked"

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 5 years ago | from the just-a-little-less-crazy-loose-in-the-world dept.

Medicine 334

Oracle Goddess writes "According to the US National Institute for Mental Health in Bethesda, Maryland, scientists have discovered a remarkable similarity between the genetic faults behind both schizophrenia and manic depression in a breakthrough that is expected to open the way to new treatments for two of the most common mental illnesses, affecting millions of people. Previously schizophrenia and depression were assumed to be two separate conditions, but the new research shows for the first time that both have a common genetic basis that leads people to develop one or the other of the two illnesses."

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Thanks (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558239)

i'd like to thank Steve Ballmer for making himself available for this important breakthrough.

Re:Thanks (3, Informative)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558381)

i'd like to thank Steve Ballmer for making himself available for this important breakthrough.

Steve says, "show yourself, human! [crunchgear.com] "

This is a very interesting finding (5, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558243)

No it isn't, you moron. These people are lying. They're all lying.

Re:This is a very interesting finding (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558281)

BadAnalogyGuy forgot to take his lithium today.

Re:This is a very interesting finding (2, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558287)

Shut up. Shut up! SHUT UP!

Re:This is a very interesting finding (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558309)

Shut up. Shut up! SHUT UP!

And his whiskey.

Warning (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558289)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) is a scientologist.
If he contacts you about a free personality test, firmly refuse him.

Re:Warning (5, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558419)

You're glib. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do.

Re:Warning (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28559023)

do you always karma whore or is it just to make up for stupid comments?

Re:Warning (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28559073)

Given that 'Funny' doesn't award karma, it's just to amuse us.

Re:Warning (2, Insightful)

MindKata (957167) | more than 5 years ago | (#28559065)

"You're glib. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do."

BadAnalogyGuy, judging from your other posts on this thread, you sound like you've probably got more drugs in you than Amy Wine-warehouse on a "I've just forgot the world getting high day" (Its a national holiday in Amsterdam), so I guess you were probably there when they opened Bethlem as a hospital in the 13th century. ;)

(Bethlem as in i.e. ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethlem_Royal_Hospital [wikipedia.org] )

(See humor and a relevant educational history lesson all in one neatly packaged post ;)

Re:This is a very interesting finding (3, Funny)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558657)

We are very happy that a solution has been found. REALLY HAPPY!!!!!!!!!! JOY AND BUTTERFLIES OH THE WORLD IS WONDERFUL ...

oh what the heck, there is no point, I might as well just give up.

Interesting (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558251)

It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.

What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:

  • Linus Torvalds [microsoft.com] is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the first initial.
  • Richard M. Stallman [geocities.com] , spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
  • Alan Cox [microsoft.com] is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.

I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual [goatse.fr] propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.

Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail [microsoft.com] , which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'

As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted [salon.com] on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.

And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo [comp-u-geek.net] slut [rotten.com] !

Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual [goatse.fr] perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children [slashdot.org] . To quote from the article linked:

'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'

Is this why you were touching your penis [rotten.com] in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?

We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual [goatse.fr] terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual [goatse.fr] lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.

Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.

In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups. The Slackware [redhat.com] distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes. Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse, a reference to the homosexual [goatse.fr] practise of anal fisting. The Mandrake [slackware.com] product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator. It was also chosen because it is an anagram for dark amen and ram naked, which is what they do.

Another 'distro,' (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco,' which is where homosexuals [goatse.fr] preyed on young boys in the 1970s), is Debian, [mandrake.com] an anagram of in a bed, which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares. 'Woody' is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male penis [rotten.com] , glistening with pre-cum. But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato' that they use. This filthy term, again found in the secret homosexual [goatse.fr] 'Sauce Code,' refers to the solo homosexual [goatse.fr] practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid. The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.

And Red Hat [debian.org] is secret homo [comp-u-geek.net] slang for the tip of a penis [rotten.com] that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.

The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry! For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland. 'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to mount each other [comp-u-geek.net] automatically.

The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points.' These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration. The main one is obviously/anus, but there are others. Militant fags even say 'there is no/opt mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.

More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love `man`, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out `man`. In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.

Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherit gayness. For example, people are often told of the 'FAQ,' but how many innocent heterosexual Windows [amiga.com] users know what this actually means. The answer is shocking: Faggot Anal Quest: the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags!

Even the title 'Slashdot [geekizoid.com] ' originally referred to a homosexual [goatse.fr] practice. Slashdot [kuro5hin.org] of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting. The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous homosexuals [goatse.fr] who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan, http://www.eff.org/ [eff.org] .

The editors of Slashdot [slashduh.org] also have homosexual [goatse.fr] names: 'Hemos' is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from 'Homos.' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco,' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement [pboy.com] . (The best form of lubrication, they insist.) Sometimes, these 'Taco Commodes' have special 'Salsa Sauce' (blood from a ruptured rectum) and 'Cheese' (rancid flakes of penis [rotten.com] discharge) toppings. And to make it even worse, Slashdot [notslashdot.org] runs on Apache!

The Apache [microsoft.com] server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after homosexual [goatse.fr] activity -- as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People, featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.

And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.

To summarise: Linux is gay. 'Slash -- Dot' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus. And BeOS [apple.com] is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers.'

FEEDBACK

What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do. I'm scared I actually read this whole thing. I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people. This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this. And actually take the time to do it too. Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Well, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once. Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species. It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to warn them of the impending homo [comp-u-geek.net] -calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.

You must work for the government. Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes. If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Doesn't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters? You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man. Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond? The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual [goatse.fr] child molesting Linux advocacy. Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!

you really should post this logged in. i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you. -- mighty jebus [slashdot.org] , Slashdot

Thank you for your kind words of support. However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously. This is because the 'Open Sauce' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom. I speak for the common man. For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's vagina [bodysnatchers.co.uk] to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child. These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture. I am the unknown liberator [hitler.org] .

ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

We shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society. This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of Baywatch until the very mention of Pamela Anderson [rotten.com] causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism [zillabunny.com] .

Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works. I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum. I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested. (Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?) -- double_h [slashdot.org] , Slashdot

Well, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing. (The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: 'Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.' And anyway, the PS2 [xbox.com] sucks major cock and isn't worth the money. Intellivision forever!

dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

For one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, NT [linux.com] is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them. Remember, a wasted arousal is a sin in the eyes of the Catholic church [atheism.org] . Clearly, the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor. All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems. It is the only route to salvation.

Secondly, this message is for every man. Computers know no colour. Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by a Black Man [stileproject.com] . Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.

And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace' for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them. -- phee [slashdot.org] , Slashdot

Although there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that Perl [python.org] (standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle,' 'Pearl Nosering,' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema.'

One scary thing about Perl [sun.com] is that it contains hidden homosexual [goatse.fr] messages. Take the following code: LWP::Simple -- It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it? But look at the line closely: There are two colons next to each other! As Larry 'Balls to the' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing,' whereby two homosexual [goatse.fr] queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together. They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone. This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as 'Parameter Passing.'

And PHP [perl.org] stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration. Didn't you know?

Thank you for your valuable input on this. I am sure you will be never forgotten. BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars? Mars rulaa. -- Eimernase [slashdot.org] , Slashdot

Well, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I do know that homosexual [goatse.fr] Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.

That's inspiring. Keep up the good work, AC. May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again. Yours, Cerberus. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

*sniff* That brings a tear to my eye. Thank you once more for your kind support. I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord [atheism.org] 's work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.

However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot. It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical. Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code,' for the sake of 'interoperability.' (The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind.)

In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (Love of Anal Naughtiness, needless to say.), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount,' into their homes. Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal. Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload,' and needs to be 'rebooted.' (i.e., kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.

Inspiring stuff! If only all trolls were this quality! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

If only indeed. You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible. I recommend '+1, Underrated,' as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation [slashdot.org] . Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture. Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender'???

If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1,' then it will be archived forever! Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!

It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity [catholic.net] that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow. It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.

As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it. When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours,' but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two,' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.

I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

I sincerely hope you're Natalie Portman [geocities.com] .

Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading. Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it. As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time. 10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass. Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre -- from the fine, frou frou French language) Software. Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins. Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that. Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise. For concision is the soul of derision. Way. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

What the fuck?

I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed. In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos [comp-u-geek.net] tend to be full of. Thank you again. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Well bugger me!

ooooh honey. how insecure are you!!! wann a little massage from deare bruci. love you -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot

Fuck right off!

IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not HURD [linux.org] , which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the Public Domain [icopyright.com] . You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL [apple.com] (Gay Penetration License) that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest feces-encrusted [rotten.com] cock. I would have put this up on Freshmeat [adultmember.com] , but that name is known to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.

Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control,' which is a description of the homosexual [goatse.fr] practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum. And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later. Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.

Contributors: (although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit' that open 'sauce' development has become) Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, phee, Anonymous Coward, mighty jebus, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, double_h, Anonymous Coward, Eimernase, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward. Further contributions are welcome.

Current changes: This version sent to FreeWIPO [slashdot.org] by 'Bring BackATV' as plain text. Reformatted everything, added all links back in (that we could match from the previous version), many new ones (Slashbot bait links). Even more spelling fixed. Who wrote this thing, CmdrTaco himself?

Previous changes: Yet more changes added. Spelling fixed. Feedback added. Explanation of 'distro' system. 'Mount Point' syntax described. More filth regarding `man` and Slashdot. Yet more fucking spelling fixed. 'Fetchmail' uncovered further. More Slashbot baiting. Apache exposed. Distribution licence at foot of document.

ANUX -- A full Linux distribution... Up your ass!

Re:Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558811)

Score +5, Irony.

I find this highly dubious... (0, Redundant)

blahplusplus (757119) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558269)

... how would they determine how they are related in the first place? Especially given the complexity of these issues in their relation to the central nervous system.

Re:I find this highly dubious... (1)

blueg3 (192743) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558279)

I bet they tested it on superintelligent rats.

Re:I find this highly dubious... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558323)

I bet they tested it on superintelligent rats.

Am I pondering what I'm pondering? I think so, self, but next time, I wear the tutu.

I find it highly dubious (3, Informative)

ihatewinXP (638000) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558313)

... how would you determine how they are related in the first place if you dont RTFA? Especially given the complexity of these issues in their relation to your understanding of them.

There, fixed it.

Re:I find this highly dubious... (4, Funny)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558337)

Statistical correlation. You know, like the link between tooth-brushing and intravenous drug abuse.

Re:I find this highly dubious... (4, Informative)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558357)

I know this is Slashdot and all, but that is rather the point of TFA. In fact, for a change, it does a reasonably good job.

Recommended.

Re:I find this highly dubious... (4, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558437)

Just becasue they are complex doesn't mean the information can't be found.

Just becasue something is unknown doesn't mean it's unknowable.

Re:I find this highly dubious... (3, Informative)

cowbutt (21077) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558521)

Similarity of some symptoms, medication that is effective for both conditions, a history of one or other condition in a person's ancestry...

Re:I find this highly dubious... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558711)

QTL Mapping. Basically, compare gene expression patterns in the brains of those [usually mice] known to have the disorder vs. "normal" ones, and determine which genes are being expressed. Subtract out the common ones. Then do the same for those known to have a different disorder. Lather, rinse, repeat. The union of those trait loci is what's common to both. Large amount of commonality suggests a relationship.

See: www.genenetwork.org/home.html for more...

I used to be schizophrenic (3, Funny)

jayme0227 (1558821) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558271)

But we're all better now.

I know, I know, that's dissociative identity disorder, but you still laughed. Maybe.

Re:I used to be schizophrenic (2, Funny)

schon (31600) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558457)

I know, I know, that's dissociative identity disorder, but you still laughed.

Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
I'm schizophrenic,
And so am I.

Re:I used to be schizophrenic (4, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558471)

I was until I shot myself in the head after destroying the nations credit system.

Re:I used to be schizophrenic (1)

Xerolooper (1247258) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558537)

I was until I shot myself in the head after destroying the nations credit system.

You my friend are the all knowing all seeing cr*p of the world.

Re:I used to be schizophrenic (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558823)

The voices in my head all tell my you're lying.

It's Not a "Disease" (3, Funny)

RobotRunAmok (595286) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558273)

It's an Orientation.

Get with the program.

Re:It's Not a "Disease" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558845)

Time for a Multi-Pride event

Downside (4, Funny)

Ukab the Great (87152) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558301)

This could be very bad for the tin foil hat industry.

Re:Downside (1)

gyranthir (995837) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558609)

Why oh why do I read /. at work? Bursting out laughing in the middle of the cube farm can cause much staring... But either way, if this is real, this could be a boon for many. Especially the young that face this and are being assaulted by their own hormones...

Re:Downside (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558767)

If you are truly paranoid though, you extract your own tin and make it into foil then fold the foil into hats. Its the only way to be sure.

Re:Downside (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558877)

It should be pointed out that tin foil doesn't really prevent the message from infiltrating your brain waves. Aluminum foil works great, though.

Re:Downside (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 5 years ago | (#28559041)

How do you know the government didn't put fake tin into the ground? They do that, you know.

Need to slow down when reading the article titles (4, Funny)

Minwee (522556) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558307)

"Achievement unlocked: Secrets of Schizophrenia and Depression!"

Re:Need to slow down when reading the article titl (4, Insightful)

neowolf (173735) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558395)

The title is a bit misleading. There is a big difference between Depression and Bipolar/Manic-Depressive disorders.

Re:Need to slow down when reading the article titl (3, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558529)

Awesome. I have saidf for a while that will be the killer app for future devices. uilt in achievments, as well as achievements that can be added.

Achievement unlocked! you ahve walked 1,000,000 steps.
Achievement unlocked! You have run a 10 minute mile! next achievement, 8 minute mile.

You have listened to your 10000 th minute of music.

And so on.

Science for the win! (2, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558325)

More articles like this one, please.

Re:Science for the win! (4, Informative)

cool_story_bro (1522525) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558595)

I just wish the summary were better. The title and summary use Depression [wikipedia.org] and Manic Depression [wikipedia.org] interchangeably, which is just dead wrong.

Yeah, Yeah... (1)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558991)

Problem is science doesn't really go that fast, and we're on a 24 hour news cycle.

Manic Depression..... (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558331)

Manic Depression's touching my soul,
I know what I want,
but I just don't know how to go about getting it.

Feeling, sweet feeling
drops from my finger, fingers
Manic Depression's captured my soul.

Woman so willing the sweet cause in vain,
you make love,
you break love,
it's-a all the same when it's...
when it's over.

Music sweet music,
I wish I could caress, caress, caress.
Manic Depression's a frustrating mess.
Well, I think I'll go turn myself off an' go on down.

Really ain't no use me hanging around.
Oh, I gotta see you.

manic depression is biopolar disorder (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558335)

... it is not the 'depression' you may be lead to believe.

Re:manic depression is biopolar disorder (1)

idontgno (624372) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558675)

Ha! We are immune to your Jedi mind tricks! Now move along, since these aren't the droids we're looking for.

Clarification (2, Informative)

Peregr1n (904456) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558343)

That would be CLINICAL depression. As in, the type caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain; as opposed to the type caused by your wife leaving you.

Re:Clarification (5, Funny)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558547)

No, that would be elation.

Re:Clarification (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558925)

I was at Felber's the other night, and some fat drunk said "My doctor told me I needed to lose 200 pounds, but the bitch won't leave!"

Re:Clarification (1)

Duradin (1261418) | more than 5 years ago | (#28559043)

Only until you see the divorce settlement. And definitely not after you've worked out what class of hooker you could have used for the same amount the divorce cost you (the Paul McCartney formula).

Re:Clarification (4, Informative)

russotto (537200) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558771)

That would be CLINICAL depression. As in, the type caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain; as opposed to the type caused by your wife leaving you.

Despite the drug company propaganda, there's no objective test to distinguish the two. In general the levels of neurotransmitters in a patient's brain aren't measured anyway... and even if they were, there's no available way to tell if the levels were what they were because of some physical issue, or if they're that way because your wife left you.

However, TFA is talking about bipolar disorder, which is not the same as clinical depression.

Re:Clarification (1)

Dzonatas (984964) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558833)

Clinical depression is someone who is experiencing depression and diagnosed as such. Someone that experiences a number of depression symptoms for a period of time without an immediate reason why for each episode is then determined to have major depression (unipolar) or bipolar disorder.

... from someone that is certified disabled from being unipolar.

Re:Clarification (2, Informative)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558883)

The type cause by your wife leaving you is called "adjustment disorder with depressed mood", and they'll prescribe the same drugs as they prescribe for depression (SSRIs like Paxil and Zoloft).

Re:Clarification (1)

Llywelyn (531070) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558999)

No, that would be *bipolar disorder* which is not the same thing as *clinical depression.*

Major depressive disorder (clinical depression) can also be triggered by a grief incident.

So what is it? (1)

Itninja (937614) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558353)

"Depression" of "manic depression"(aka bipolar disorder)? These are two very different things.

Re:So what is it? (5, Informative)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558501)

Indeed, the disease is no longer called "manic depression". It's "bipolar disorder" now. And BTW, schitzophrenia is not multiple personalities, that one is called "disassociative identity disorder". Schitzophrenics experience delusions, like changing their memories of a movie or TV show into memories of their own life experience; or hallucinations, like hearing voices in their heads telling them what a terrible person they are.

Depression is a completely different disease and often leads to suicide and usually leads to drug or alcohol abuse, although the metal health industry usually blames the substance abuse for the depression that started before the substance abuse did.

You meet a lot of crazy people in bars. One guy I saw in a bar said "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy".

Re:So what is it? (1)

Itninja (937614) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558689)

schitzophrenia [sic] is not multiple personalities, that one is called "disassociative identity disorder"

Yeah but hillbillies want to be called 'Sons of the Soil', but it's never going to happen....

You meet a lot of crazy people in bars. One guy I saw in a bar said "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy".

That was kind of a non-sequiter. Was this person Dorothy Parker? Because she's the one who said that originally...

Manic Depression is awesome (5, Interesting)

grub (11606) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558367)


When I on lithium (~15 years ago) I found my creative spark had gone. Sure, the window of emotion had narrowed considerably, but the super-fast mental edge was lost. That made me even more depressed when the time came. Spoke with my doc, dropped all the meds (but can get lithium if I become Superman again)

If you can harness it, manic depression is wonderful thing.

Posted non-anonymously because it's not embarrassing or a big stigma.

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (1)

neowolf (173735) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558415)

This is interesting to hears, thanks. :)

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (2, Interesting)

Xaedalus (1192463) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558433)

Kudos to you for posting w/ your name. I agree, IF you can harness it then yes, it can be a wonderful thing. The sticky point is being able to harness it.

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (3, Interesting)

grub (11606) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558575)


The sticky point is being able to harness it.

Yep, that's the kicker.

When I spoke with the doc I told her my concerns. Things/answers/analysis/even jokes which would have come to me in a flash actually took mental work. Maybe it's parallel to how Alzheimer's patients start to feel, hope I never know.

In any case, the high end isn't usually the problem, it's the bottoming out that comes. I take reasonable care of myself and overall it's worked out well. Hey, I've just had the past 15 years virtually med free. I shudder when the idea of Me taking all those meds during that time being just a functioning zombie.

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (1)

Colourspace (563895) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558643)

Strangely enough I have just recently weaned myself off prozac after a six year period, and I too have got my emotional breadth and creative mojo back again. I'm sure it helped at the time I started but I feel a lot more like myself again now. For instance listening to certain music puts shivers down my spine again, whereas it had stopped affecting me like that for a long time.

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (4, Interesting)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558745)

Not to be glib, but couldn't it just be part of the disease to feel that the medicated state is unnatural? Whereas you feel muted when on the medicine, it is actually the way most people feel all the time?

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (2, Funny)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558893)

it is actually the way most people feel all the time?

and he should really care how "normal" people fell why????

fuck normal... give me bat shit crazy and totally happy any day....

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (1)

Itninja (937614) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558543)

I can see how the mania would be potentially useful for harnessed. But the depression too? So when one wants to hang themselves in the garage or just stay in bad for days, how is that 'awesome'? Are you in a mania right now?

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (2, Insightful)

grub (11606) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558671)


Are you in a mania right now?

Nope. Remember that different people have different 'windows'. When the bottoming out came it was pretty shitty, slept all the time, would bawl my eyes out for no reason, etc. But I wasn't seriously suicidal.

The past many years have had a few odd low ends but nothing as drastic as when I was in my late 20's. Part of the problem with the low end was self-medicating with booze or non-pharm drugs. Nowadays if I feel even remotely bummed out I won't touch a drop of booze, it may not make things necessarily rosey right away but it won't lower me further into the pit.

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (1)

grub (11606) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558791)

Hmmm... Better post "Small Print":

Do not alter your medication before discussing it with your physician. If you are having suicidal thoughts, call your physician immediately. Do not take comments on slashdot as medical advice. YMMV

There :)

.

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558853)

The significant element that is common to Rivera, Siqueros, Picasso, Pollock, Van Gogh and Frida Kahlo is the expression of pain. (Bill Cannon)

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (1)

WilyCoder (736280) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558719)

Hell yeah! I was on a regimen of Sam-E in college. It put me into a hypomanic state. It was the best time of my life! I was sleeping 6 hours a night, full of energy, and wanted nothing more than to fuck all the college girls I saw. Very different from my usual bored apathetic state :D

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (1)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558765)

by grub (11606)

Posted non-anonymously because it's not embarrassing or a big stigma.

I applaud your courage, but I find it humorous that you feel you are posting non-anonymously when using an anonymous pseudonym.

I know there's a lot of truth to the fact that our online personas, in the context of online interactions, are an analogue to our meatspace personas, and we have a sense of identity with them that is really not much different (if it differs at all) from our meatspace identities.

But it still makes me chuckle.

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (1)

grub (11606) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558819)


Do a whois on the domain in my always non-obfuscated email address. I'm the farthest thing from anonymous.

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (1)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558859)

Well, then, I stand corrected. My apologies.

You bastard. You've just made me lose a chuckle.

Thank you for making my day that much worse. :(

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (2, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558903)


heh heh heh, don't get all depressed over it. Life's too short... :P

.

Re:Manic Depression is awesome (1)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558805)

The only thing I harnessed with my highs was fist fighting and acting like a tool and the only thing I harnessed from my lows is excessive sleep and suicidal tendencies.

Apparently it's a YMMV thing.

Depression vs. Bipolar (4, Informative)

david_thornley (598059) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558371)

The summary seems to confuse being depressive with being bipolar (i.e., manic-depressive). Clinical depression is a common problem, and is generally treatable to some extent with drug and cognitive therapy. Last I checked, bipolar was much less common and a lot less treatable.

So, it isn't going to lead to new treatments for two common problems. It may well lead to new treatments for two problems, one of which is distinctly less common. Those who are clinically depressed but not bipolar may well not benefit at all.

Yep. Manic-Depression != Depression (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558907)

Yep. That's why they re-named 'manic-depression' to 'bipolar disorder' in the first place. Bipolar disorder is more closely linked to schizophrenia than it is to depression.

Also, schizophrenia != multiple personality disorder. A schizophrenic may additionally have multiple personality disorder, but the terms are not synonymous. Schizophrenia is more closely classified as a disorder that causes a "break from reality."

Full disclaimer: my wife is a psychologist and psychotherapist.

Nice to see the worst elements of /. are here (3, Insightful)

NoNeeeed (157503) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558387)

With three comments, this article has already been tagged with "nutjobs".

Grow up. Chances are you know someone who has (or will develop) one of these conditions to some degree, even if you don't know it (which is likely if you are that much of a jackass, they probably wouldn't tell you).

I don't normally do angry rants, but sometimes I'm surprised by the juvenile and compassionless attitudes of some people on /.

Re:Nice to see the worst elements of /. are here (4, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558423)

That was your angry rant? Man, you need some practice~

Re:Nice to see the worst elements of /. are here (4, Funny)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558755)

He would probably give an angrier rant if not for the meds.

Re:Nice to see the worst elements of /. are here (1)

ihatewinXP (638000) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558519)

People that feel the need to shout that sort of nonsense probably have something going on themselves....

Re:Nice to see the worst elements of /. are here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558607)

Or the people who feel the need to point it out to others, with their own insecurity. ...wait...

Re:Nice to see the worst elements of /. are here (3, Funny)

xednieht (1117791) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558557)

Since one of the symptoms is "purposeless agitation" it would seem that /. is a schizo-magnet.
Not me of course since the voices told me I wasn't.

Re:Nice to see the worst elements of /. are here (1)

religious freak (1005821) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558593)

I don't normally do angry rants, but sometimes I'm surprised by the juvenile and compassionless attitudes of some people on /.

I'd really love to know the average age of the typical /. reader. There are brilliant minds here, for sure, but I agree with you that some comments (outside of just this one story) and overall community attitudes are lacking in maturity. I largely hope these attitudes are held by kids - smart kids, but kids nonetheless.

Re:Nice to see the worst elements of /. are here (1)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558679)

LOL, get back in the house, old man, the grass is no place for you.

You can't stop here, this is kid country.

(I'm in my mid-30's...but I act like a jackass...erm kid still.)

Re:Nice to see the worst elements of /. are here (1)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558997)

I'm 25 and I try my damnedest to be on my best behavior.

DSM diagnostic criteria: (2, Informative)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558735)

poor impulse control, disinhibition, lack of concern for others, overly aggressive emphasis on one's own pleasure

this is the mental condition known as "internet troll"

familiarize yourself with the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders entry for this particular disorder, and show some sensitivity to those affected

your anger doesn't help in the care and treatment of the mentally altered. more compassion next time please for these poor suffering souls. thank you

Re:Nice to see the worst elements of /. are here (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558743)

Taking mental illness seriously basically means admitting that "you" are chemical meat first and "willpower", "soul", or whatever only secondarily, if at all. That isn't what I'd call a wildly popular idea, so it isn't a huge surprise that almost any research on the biology of mental illness would draw some flack and immaturity.

Re:Nice to see the worst elements of /. are here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558785)

actually it is a bit nice.

as someone who's been diagnosed with schizophrenia; one of the biggest realisations that helps is that it's not so much people are out to get me but more people our just out to get anyone.

i just happen to be a bit over sensitive is all. then it just becomes important to remember that.

thanks for the reminder assholes :-)

All those making jokes... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558391)

Schizophrenia is not the same as dissociative identity disorder. It means split mind, not split personality. BUT don't feel too bad, ignorance about mental disorders is normal.

Also, schizophrenics are less likely to be violent than a person without Schizophrenia, except against themselves. Schizophrenics' suicide rate is 1 in 10.

that's absurd (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558443)

you're just hearing things...

Important findings (2, Interesting)

Cluster2k1 (1334687) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558475)

Anything that sheds new light onto Schizophrenia and related disorders is very welcome. It's heart breaking to watch someone close to you go through Schizophrenia symptoms. It's not the funny Hollywood version of split personalities. People suffering the disorder believe they are incredibly important (on a world scale), that they're on a special mission, they're related to Jesus, that others are coming to commit harm. Most of all, they can't tell you who sent them on the 'mission' or why. They sometimes turn on friends and accuse them of literally giving the disease. The paranoia accompanying the illness can reach critical levels. Saddest of all, a person with Schizophrenia does not believe they have a problem. They believe everyone else is either wrong, out to get them, or 'just doesn't understand.' Getting a sufferer to realise anything is wrong, let alone getting them to accept medical treatment is a real trial.

This is what is being done now... (2, Informative)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558531)

In order to treat these conditions, ECT [wikipedia.org] is the tool of choice these days. It has its own detractors (me inclusive) for I do not see how inducing a seizure helps an individual.

Worst of all you could lose all your memory. There was a story of a lady who did not remember anything about her clothes and wondered who had put "foreign" clothes in her closet. In another case, a former doctor could not remember who the hell he was after the procedure. Scary indeed.

Re:This is what is being done now... (1)

DocJohn (81319) | more than 5 years ago | (#28559019)

ECT is not the "tool of choice these days" to treat schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. If I had mod points, I'd mod this one down.

ECT is used -- rarely -- to treat major depression. And in a few years, when ECT manufacturers will be required to submit actual research proof of this technique's safety and efficacy, I imagine ECT may not be an option for clinical depression long.

In perspective (4, Informative)

tgibbs (83782) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558611)

Just to put this in perspective, this is not a gene, but just a region of a chromosome. And the association with any particular locus is weak, so it doesn't look like it is strong enough for diagnosis or prenatal testing. Even when the gene is identified, going from a gene to a treatment tends to be very difficult. We've know of genes for Huntington's Disease and Alzheimer's Disease for years, and while this has inspired a lot of promising research, so far this knowledge has not yet resulting any major improvements with respect to treatment or prevention.

Moreover, finding that the same genes are involved does not necessarily mean that the diseases are the same, because genes can be "broken" in multiple ways.

The idea that there is a relationship between schizophrenia and bipolar disorder is not actually new, as there are some people who exhibit characteristics of both disorders, and some people diagnosed with one respond to drugs that are commonly used to treat the other. So this basically adds a bit more evidence to a long-standing suspicion.

That's awsome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558613)

No it's not!

I hope this brings things closer to a treatment. (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558673)

I hope this brings things closer to a more reliable form of treatment. I grew up with three (yes, 3) women with schizophrenia, and the drugs only muted the symptoms. I (amazingly) don't have the disease myself. My mom and grandma, who I lived with the first ten years of my life, had noticeable symptoms...I'd get told to do things that didn't make sense to me. I'm a rather geeky and analytical girl, and it is very frustrating when the adults in your life tell you things that *make no sense*, and there's nobody around *without* the disease to talk to. They tried to "protect" me from the "ghosts" on one hand, so I'm sure they cared for me in their own way, but on the other hand my mom would attack my grandma because my grandma (who was a heavy smoker and had issues with her lungs) was "talking under her breath". (She wasn't.) Pretty terrifying to see when you're five years old. I wasn't allowed to go to friends' birthday parties if they were in a certain town that, some hundred years ago, had been the former county seat, because apparantly folks from that town were still pissed off at our town and would try to hurt me (this is the paranoia part of paranoid schizophrenia showing). I wasn't allowed to wear the color red, eat strawberries, or get ice cream from the ice cream man truck. My mom would randomly become enraged at my friends dads simply since they were male, so I'd be cut off from friends randomly. My aunt had less noticeable symptoms, but the disease made her a target for an abusive husband, and of course I was exposed to that when I went to live with them as an 8th grader (my mom went back into the mental hospital, and my grandma had died when I was 10). I finally ran away at 16 and went into the state ward system, which was much, much better since I could make decisions for myself, instead of having to obey people who made no sense.

Schizophrenia sucks. It sucks for the person having it, since you can't hold down a job, and it sucks for the family that has to put up with it.

Where's kDawson? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558725)

Doesn't everyone know the difference between depression and bipolar disorder? Mod OP down.

Duh (3, Insightful)

Areyoukiddingme (1289470) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558807)

Anybody who has had long association with a manic-depressive already knew this. I'm related to one. The first time, he went completely manic. Didn't sleep for a week, etc. The last time he went around the bend, he DIDN'T go manic-depressive. He went paranoid schizophrenic. I can't believe any competent clinician hadn't already noticed that the same patient can easily exhibit symptoms of both, even at the same time. Given that both are caused by imbalances in brain chemistry, and given that the same patient can be both, how big of a leap is it to notice that they're really just different manifestations of the same problem?

He's much better now, though he still prefers his own flights of fancy to reality. But at least he's capable of distinguishing the two again. After over a decade of on-again off-again lunacy, he's finally decided to take his meds regularly, and he, his therapist, and his mother have found an effective dosage (of Depacote, for the morbidly curious. The stuff works very well, IF, and I repeat IF the dosage is precisely correct. Too little does nothing. Too much ruins the patient's ability to stay awake, let alone function.) It is perhaps telling that regardless of whether he was manic, depressive, paranoid, or schizophrenic, his therapist wanted him to use Depacote. Practitioners already know that the same drug can treat a patient with any of those symptoms.

So, at the risk of repeating myself... duh?

Awesome but... (2, Funny)

XPeter (1429763) | more than 5 years ago | (#28558835)

Slashdot won't be helped until the secrets of Aspergers Syndrome are "Unlocked"

Re:Awesome but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28558911)

Mmmmm... Assburgers.

Medications vs. Treatment (1)

StealthEMD (916613) | more than 5 years ago | (#28559025)

I know this is an unrelated disorder but the idea I want to present still holds. My father has Epilepsy (non-genetic) and has been on prescription Phenobarbital, dilatin, and Folic Acid most of my life. Though this helped control the seizures it did not address the primary problem... Damage to the right side of his brain. The bigger problem is the impact of the medication on his ability to operate in the world around him. His reaction time, cognition, and memory are all greatly affected and external stimuli can make a tremendous impact on his life. If not for the medication he would probably qualify as a borderline genius, but he would have 3-4 Gran Mal seizures a day. To try and help him doctors have tried him on multiple medications and are now evaluating him for surgery. This is where I make my point. the medications though helpful do not address the problem: damage to the brain. The solution is to remove the damage. The question is how will this affect the rest of his life. The same is true here: Medications do not solve the underlying cause of Schizophrenia or Bi-Polar Disorder. A lasting treatment needs to be developed to provide this capacity. There are underlying problems (genetic, physical, chemical, all of thee above) that need to be treated in a lasting manner. (I am not just blowing smoke out my ass I too deal with imbalance issues including ADD and hormonal imbalances causing gender dysphoria, it is a chemical problem and I find a way to live my life normally despite the fact but I still wish there was permanent treatment.)

Am I really going to be the first. . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28559071)

. . . to suggest that this is the Secret of NIMH?

I'm disappointed in you Slashdot. Very Disappointed.

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