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122 comments

In other news (0, Troll)

dread (3500) | about 5 years ago | (#28569469)

Upon seeing the submarine most of the italian army surrendered on account of being surrendered.

Re:In other news (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28569511)

Meanwhile, after the french heard of the situation, the french army secured rubber padding to their weapons so they will retain their value if dropped in an attempt to surrender.

No longer will they have to run the disclaimer in the ad for surplus guns for sale, "never been fired but dropped at least once".

No Shit? (5, Funny)

Elvis77 (633162) | about 5 years ago | (#28569481)

No Shit?

Re:No Shit? (2, Informative)

sakdoctor (1087155) | about 5 years ago | (#28569615)

Not this shit again.

http://www.google.com/tisp/install.html [google.com]

Re:No Shit? (-1, Offtopic)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | about 5 years ago | (#28569735)

Can we please stop all this shit?

Shit's getting on my nerves...

Re:No Shit? (1)

Kneo24 (688412) | about 5 years ago | (#28569761)

No, because if we do, shit will hit the fan.

Re:No Shit? (1)

yiantsbro (550957) | about 5 years ago | (#28569791)

This is once where their jobs will be easier if I just don't give a shit.

Re:No Shit? (2, Funny)

tomhudson (43916) | about 5 years ago | (#28570961)

Shitty Internet Connection (TM)

Feeling flush?

NetCrap Confirms Italian Internet service is shittiest.

Italian Internet service - new get your pr0n with Smell-O-Rama; special non-virtual downloads for those into scat!

Customer: My internet is backed up!
CSR: Have you tried Imodium?

Customer: My internet is intermittent.
CSR: You're out of balance upstream/downstream. Now that you have fiber in your sewer, you need more fiber in your diet.

Re:No Shit? (1)

peragrin (659227) | about 5 years ago | (#28570305)

If a shit submarine hits a fan your in much deeper shit than you should be to start with.

Though does morpheous's hovercraft count as a shit traveling submarine?

Re:No Shit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28570029)

Yeah, it's laying cable. :-)

Guerilla Net (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28569503)

I always thought that would be a good way to construct a community driven "Guerilla Net", that flouted the laws that seek to control our communications systems.

The other idea was to build solar powered WiFi meshing routers and attach strong magnets to them. A radio controlled helicopter would then be used to attach them to inaccessible places on high metallic structures, where they would be very difficult to remove.

Re:Guerilla Net (1)

Sobrique (543255) | about 5 years ago | (#28569601)

Hmm, how big a solar panel would you need to run your wi-fi router? I'd have thought they drew at least enough power to make them hard to run off solar...
But otherwise I really like that idea. Maybe you could so some kind of low power repeater type router, designed specifically for this application.

Re:Guerilla Net (1)

corsec67 (627446) | about 5 years ago | (#28569797)

10 watts is "hard to do?"

A 10 watt solar panel is about 1 square foot.

Re:Guerilla Net (1)

agentgonzo (1026204) | about 5 years ago | (#28569901)

During the day, under sunny conditions maybe. How about at night, or when it's raining. For that, you need batteries to cover the power outage and significantly larger solar cells to account for the charge and losses

Re:Guerilla Net (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28570009)

Or, y'know, some mirrors to focus more light. (in reference to larger cell)
But placing it correctly is the main problem.
You'd want it in full sunlight all the time for one. (duh)
You could even go as far as building some electronics to rotate the mirror (which isn't exactly hard, especially when there are guides online)

The rain could be stopped fairly easily with a shield over vents.
The major problem would be wind. Oh, and the big crazy magnet used to hold the thing. Didn't magnets fall out with technology a while ago... like way back just after the Big Bang?
Also, since i mentioned wind, wind power too? Might as well.

Also, anyone still remember NSLU2? You could mod one of those, shield the vents, bham, nice little contained box.
Dual battery pack, one for charging, one for use. (could probably go with one)

This little things almost becoming a bit too heavy...

Re:Guerilla Net (1)

Demonantis (1340557) | about 5 years ago | (#28570173)

Magnets are used everywhere that technology is present. All speakers require a magnet to operate. Computers even need magnets to focus CD-ROM lasers and move hdd heads. Magnets are pretty nifty things when used correctly.

Re:Guerilla Net (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28570455)

A wifi router can be built from ICs, drawing about 1 watt. Companies like G2 [g2microsystems.com] do WiFi systems that draw even less.

Re:Guerilla Net (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28570265)

Can someone please explain the reference for this joke.

Sewers? (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | about 5 years ago | (#28569517)

There was an article about this sort of thing in Raleigh the other day.
Here's the link:
http://news14.com/Default.aspx?ArID=611427 [news14.com]

Come on it's just laying cable in the sewers. (2, Funny)

antifoidulus (807088) | about 5 years ago | (#28569527)

How many of us cannot say the same? Esp. after all-you-can-eat night down at the Burrito King.

You'll probably (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28569529)

...get a shit connection. There, I said it.

Re:You'll probably (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28569599)

Yeah, those Italian ISP's are full of shit.

Load of Crap... (2, Funny)

T-Bucket (823202) | about 5 years ago | (#28569531)

A sewer submarine? That's a load of crap...

An Italian Italian company? (1)

DiamondGeezer (872237) | about 5 years ago | (#28569539)

IS that like Italian^2? More Italian than Italians? Able to leap across piazzas in a single bound?

Re:An Italian Italian company? (2, Funny)

Thanshin (1188877) | about 5 years ago | (#28569801)

Their pizzas are spherical.

Fiber in the sewer systems? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28569547)

Of course, the other way to get more fibre in the system bran muffins.

RC submarine (0, Offtopic)

Chrisq (894406) | about 5 years ago | (#28569563)

Well, I suppose they had to use a Roman Catholic submarine if they wanted to lay cables under the Vatican. Seriously, it shows that if the protestant fundies get aggressive then the Pope is seriously tooled up and ready to take them on.

New encapsulation... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28569583)

IPoPoop?

understandable (4, Interesting)

sumdumass (711423) | about 5 years ago | (#28569621)

This makes sense, I have been using RC 4wheel drive cars to run cable under craw spaces and in some cases, across long stretches of drop ceilings for a couple of years now. The great thing is that I can deduct toys from my taxes.

Re:understandable (1)

bitt3n (941736) | about 5 years ago | (#28570277)

This makes sense, I have been using RC 4wheel drive cars to run cable under craw spaces and in some cases, across long stretches of drop ceilings for a couple of years now. The great thing is that I can deduct toys from my taxes.

This makes sense, I have been using "RC 4wheel drive cars" as a simple search string for auditing tax returns for years now.

Re:understandable (1)

DrgnDancer (137700) | about 5 years ago | (#28570951)

How is it not a valid expense. He's using it the way he claims on his taxes, he's just ALSO playing with it. They make little specialist RC robots to do this, those are way more expensive. For a small shop this a pretty good option.

Re:understandable (1)

yogibaer (757010) | about 5 years ago | (#28570511)

Interesting Idea. How do you handle the drag? Doesn't pulling a couple of meters of fiber (or worse: copper) require quite a lot of power? How do you navigate?.

Re:understandable (3, Informative)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 5 years ago | (#28570579)

Guys have been doing this for ages, it doesn't take much pull for straight runs. You can get pretty cheap R/C tanks at Radio Shack pretty often, which are quite good for this particular purpose in terms of price:performance ratio. The simple truth though is that today's R/C cars are fucking pissed off. I've got a rally car (saloon with the suspension raised) that makes 28 MPH. The Six-C NiCD pack regularly gets hotter than you want to hold. Actually, as an AWD car with low CG but high clearance and limited slip diffs, it might be an idea cable puller :)

You can't navigate if you can't see, there are numerous tiny video transmitters which will run off of ~6V, commonly available inside R/C cars or trivial to add with a 4AA pack. But if you can see the thing you can just tape a Mag-Lite to it.

Google wasn't joking... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28569623)

http://www.google.com/tisp/

Great.. (5, Funny)

FrostedWheat (172733) | about 5 years ago | (#28569625)

Even mutant turtles get better broadband than me.

Looks like it's slashdotted already... (0)

lbbros (900904) | about 5 years ago | (#28569663)

Did anyone who got a chance at reading see who the company is? I live in Milan and IIRC there aren't many that are laying fiber here. The biggest one was the ex-monopolist Telecom Italia, which stopped around the half of the nineties, and then the work was continued by other companies.

Surely that should have been "lays cable"? (2, Funny)

kenevel (921288) | about 5 years ago | (#28569665)

geddit?

In soviet Italy... (5, Funny)

migla (1099771) | about 5 years ago | (#28569689)

In soviet Italy, the crap is full of internet.

Re:In soviet Italy... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28569755)

ROFL! Mod parent up!

Re:In soviet Italy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28570065)

I'd dare say unfortunately there's no soviet Italy. It would be better than the humanjoke we have as prime minister.

Not sure that I agree with you (1)

WindBourne (631190) | about 5 years ago | (#28571871)

He appears to be stacking his cabinet. In other countries, they are just corrupt friends on the take. But in italy, they are putting ppl in that are fun to be taken. All in all, I think that I prefer his, since he is in the open about it. Heck, the man always has a good women behind and beside him.

Re:In soviet Italy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28570823)

While in the rest of the world, the internet is full of crap...

Slashdotted (5, Informative)

jimallison86 (1156175) | about 5 years ago | (#28569693)

Re:Slashdotted (2, Funny)

solevita (967690) | about 5 years ago | (#28569783)

it seems to be slashdotted

I'm sure there's going to be a lot of band jokes coming about "blocked tubes" and the like.

I think the word you're looking for... (4, Funny)

jonaskoelker (922170) | about 5 years ago | (#28569929)

I'm sure there's going to be a lot of band jokes coming about "blocked tubes" and the like.

Instead of traffic congestion, we will have traffic constipation.

Re:Slashdotted (1)

Tweenk (1274968) | about 5 years ago | (#28570225)

Italians are sick people. The girl making out with an RC car is... interesting.

Re:Slashdotted (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28571301)

I wonder how many of us clicked on the girl with the boots hunkered down on the ground next to the green car.

Umm... (0, Redundant)

dcapel (913969) | about 5 years ago | (#28569707)

That's going to give a really shitty connection.

Mirror? (1)

Any Web Loco (555458) | about 5 years ago | (#28569715)

Anyone got a mirror? I'm trying to ready this at work and WenSense is blocking it (swimsuits or something...)

thanks for the link (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28569729)

thanks for the link. How does it let go of the cable?

Italian (1)

TheLink (130905) | about 5 years ago | (#28569749)

> In Italian, but the pictures speak for themselves.

Yeah the pictures are probably doing a lot of hand waving and gesticulating.

And right now they're apparently screaming about "slashdot" while doing so.

Re:Italian (1)

m2f2 (1420929) | about 5 years ago | (#28570349)

Sewers... internet connections... Wait... I might have guessed earlier where are you /.ing from. Maybe better check that those fibers are well insulated before such crap leaches in.

What about using google cache? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28569769)

Here you go =)

http://209.85.229.132/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=cache:http://www.hobbymedia.it/14893/sottomarino-radiocomandato&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Translation (4, Informative)

Toy G (533867) | about 5 years ago | (#28569821)

Quick translation...

** Neptune, the radio-controlled submarine from Sabattinicars, lays ADSL cables in sewers

The July issue of Focus magazine contains an interesting piece on the use of Thunder TigerNeptune submarine (distributed in Italy by SabattiniCars) to lay ADSL cables through the sewage network. Cristoforo Massari, a physicist employed by the council of Milan, remarks that this system makes it possible to reach any building or house without any excavating effort, saving a lot of money. And to think that someone still argues that modelmaking is a useless hobby! [sic]

Re:Translation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28570643)

ADSL cable? Did they mean they are laying copper cable?

Slashdot brings them to their knees? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28569857)

The site appears to be down... is Slashdot evolving into a DDOS trigger?

Re:Slashdot brings them to their knees? (1)

caveymon (939902) | about 5 years ago | (#28570153)

The site appears to be down... is Slashdot evolving into a DDOS trigger?

you must be new here

So... (1)

pandrijeczko (588093) | about 5 years ago | (#28569893)

... if "urine" Italy, you will get faster Internet - though I wonder if that means the ISP have bigger "logs".

And I don't envy the guy who has to clean the R/C submarines afterwards, either!

Re:So... (1)

Corporate Troll (537873) | about 5 years ago | (#28570279)

I don't envy the guy who has to clean the R/C submarines afterwards, either!

I'd put it in a container with water for a few hours or so... Add in a bit disinfectant, perhaps.

The thing is submersible, after all ;-)

Re:So... (1)

maxume (22995) | about 5 years ago | (#28572325)

Also, simply avoid licking it.

Please tag this story "it" (4, Funny)

Spacezilla (972723) | about 5 years ago | (#28569911)

Please tag this story "it", so it's easier to find other stories about Italy later.

Re:Please tag this story "it" (1)

Toy G (533867) | about 5 years ago | (#28570035)

You joke, but think how much money would Italy make if only they'd remove restrictions for their TLD registrations... apart from obvious IT companies, there would be a rush for sentences, like "justfix.it" or "letsprint.it" etc...

But no, we are italllians, we don't need no money, we have the sun! pizza! gangsters! Ferrari! mandolins! etc etc ... so to buy a .it you need to live/have a company in Italy.

Re:Please tag this story "it" (1)

Cobra_666 (777517) | about 5 years ago | (#28570335)

Umm... http://www.pown.it/ [www.pown.it] ?

Re:Please tag this story "it" (1)

Corporate Troll (537873) | about 5 years ago | (#28570339)

So create a company that buys .it domains and rents them out to foreign companies...

Re:Please tag this story "it" (1)

Registered Coward v2 (447531) | about 5 years ago | (#28571891)

So create a company that buys .it domains and rents them out to foreign companies...

Or just say fuck.it and move on...

5M depth and 2km/h, says the spec (2, Funny)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | about 5 years ago | (#28569915)

I want one. No, I want two. Not to lay cables through sewers, just to scare our local canoeists senseless, as a payback for all the times they've steered straight under my bow and scared the shit out of me.

Will be used exclusively... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28569935)

for scat porn

Cant load it (1)

parcanman (933838) | about 5 years ago | (#28569941)

I can't connect, it says "error establishing database connection", I'm gonna guess this is another instance of a server overloading thanks to the amount of people connecting from a link on slashdot. Maybe once there's a few more new stories posted, people will stop looking at this one for long enough for me to load the images.

Re:Cant load it (1)

frenchbedroom (936100) | about 5 years ago | (#28569989)

You must be new here.

Incidentally (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28569965)

"to lay a cable" is slang in Norway for taking a dump. We also quite frequently use the phrase "network constipation".

crappy internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28569971)

Fiber or not, it's still gonna be one crappy internet.

NOT A TOY! (2, Informative)

Fotograf (1515543) | about 5 years ago | (#28569997)

RC is not a toy! it is, like a eco friendly stuff. with some 14V LiPo+brushless engine they could lay even undersea cable at 50mph!

Laying Cables... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28570005)

Shouldn't that read "RC Submarine Lays Cable Through Sewers In Italy?".

Been done before (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28570033)

http://www.google.com/tisp/install.html :P

Movie sequel idea (1)

codeButcher (223668) | about 5 years ago | (#28570039)

All I can say is that Phillipe "The Mouse" Gaston [imdb.com] must be careful not to get entangled in those cables, or get embroiled in a fight with one of the subs, next time he escapes via sewers. (OK, OK, so my geography and history sux, but the facts should never subtract from a good Hollywood story.)

Pimp my toilet (1)

tmkn (1520967) | about 5 years ago | (#28570061)

So Italians will start seeing ethernet ports in their toilet seats? Maybe then going for a better audio system... Before you know it, all Italian toilets will be totally AWESOME with LED lights an all of that! Laptop sessions in the bathroom will never be the same.

RC Sub Promo Video (2, Informative)

spamtacular (1412909) | about 5 years ago | (#28570067)

Youtube Promo Video [youtube.com] for Thunder-Tiger's Neptune -- shows the insides as well as some shots of it doing it's thing...

Terminator 5: The Elimination (1)

hyades1 (1149581) | about 5 years ago | (#28570069)

A whole generation of new "It Came From The Sewer" urban legends is spawning in the dark even as we speak.

Re:Terminator 5: The Elimination (2, Interesting)

badfish99 (826052) | about 5 years ago | (#28570127)

Let's hope it doesn't meet one of these [theregister.co.uk]

Cable repair guy (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28570111)

It's all fun and games until the cable breaks and someone has to swim in there and fix it.

Re:Cable repair guy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28573021)

I'm sure they'd just get Mike Rowe to do it for them.

poor little Italian hobby company webserver (4, Funny)

funkboy (71672) | about 5 years ago | (#28570191)

didn't stand a chance against a slashdotting...

Not all that uncommon to us RC (3, Interesting)

pyster (670298) | about 5 years ago | (#28570243)

A guy I worked with (same company, different market) used to use an RC car to run pull string to run cat5, fiber, coax, whatever. Its not all that uncommon. Some of you might be surprised to know that they sell a cross bow with a fishing reel for running cable also.

What surprises me is that the sub can negotiate the sewer with all that shit in there. You would think the prop would have issues.

Re:Not all that uncommon to us RC (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | about 5 years ago | (#28570285)

Don't they have cats where you come from? Or small children - I was once volunteered for this task - thanks a bunch, dad!

In Italian? (1)

blind biker (1066130) | about 5 years ago | (#28570267)

It says "Database Error" - that's English!

Pictures speak for themselves (1)

durin (72931) | about 5 years ago | (#28570309)

Obviously, since many of the pictures (on the rest of the page) contain pretty girls :)

Shhhhh!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28570345)

WTH? These $600 toy submarines will be $60,000 Monday!

Good R/C controller and receiver = $150.

"Good" remote flash controller for cameras = $600 And this has probably 1/10th of the input cost as the R/C airplane controller.

Rotting fiber? (2, Interesting)

MobyDisk (75490) | about 5 years ago | (#28570407)

How do they keep the fiber from rotting? Sewers contain all sorts of household chemicals, in addition to biological waste.

Other Toilet ISPs (4, Informative)

miller60 (554835) | about 5 years ago | (#28570537)

This recalls Google's Toilet ISP [datacenterknowledge.com] April Fool's prank. But there was actually a broadband-via-sewer called CityNet, which raised $375 million back in 2001. It also used robots to run the cabling. This story [datacenterknowledge.com] recaps that initiative, and can serve as topical reading while TFA is Slashdotted.

similar idea (2, Insightful)

ei4anb (625481) | about 5 years ago | (#28570591)

A few years ago thieves stole several kilometers of rope from newly layed pipes alongside a road near where I lived. The ropes were to be used to pull cables through the pipes using openings every 100 meters. The company was on the point of digging up the roadside to relay the pipes when a local farmer explained that he had a trained ferret that he used for such work on his farm.

The ferret pulled string through the pipes and that was used to pull rope which then was used to pull the cables through. I have heard that the same trick was used in the 1800's for telegraph cables.

Re:similar idea (1)

RJFerret (1279530) | about 5 years ago | (#28571671)

Yes, this my first thought too when I saw this article.

More referenced in Wikipedia: "Event organizers in London used ferrets to run TV and sound cables for both the wedding of Charles, Prince of Wales to Lady Diana Spencer, and for the 'Party in the Park' concert held in Greenwich Park on Millennium Eve. One ferret, Freddie, was even registered as an electrician's assistant with the New Zealand Electrical Workers Union."

You don't really need to train them, they naturally are burrowing animals, many owners have some flexible drier vent tubing for their ferrets to run through. (And you need to "ferret proof" your home for holes under cabinets or in walls they might crawl in to.)

(Not to be off topic, but the easiest way to get pictures of fast moving ferrets is to focus the camera on a tube's exit as that's pretty much the only time you can know exactly where a ferret will be!)

1:70 (-1, Offtopic)

Deliveranc3 (629997) | about 5 years ago | (#28570749)

Robots with Polaris Missiles?! YAY!

Israel attacks Palestine with UAVs which fire without human control [youtube.com] , the news talks about the massive amount of casualties... Slashdot talks about how cool robots are... Something got lost in the middle.

Radio Controlled Submarine (1)

gwjgwj (727408) | about 5 years ago | (#28571295)

Radio controlled - under water?

Max 5 meters depth quoted (2, Informative)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | about 5 years ago | (#28571539)

Yes. Sea water is a lot more conductive than fresh water, so it blocks radio (except VLF...) more efficiently. Fresh water - well, put it like this, does your cell phone work when it's raining?

Roman Catholic Submarine? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28571601)

Well, that's a first.

Another mafia construction scandal looming ... (1)

Swoopy (101558) | about 5 years ago | (#28572265)

All those charges for piping and nothing being there underground at all.
And now, the jig will be up for them when the robot discovers there are no sewers there!

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