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Chinese "Web Addicts" Get Boot Camp, Therapy

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the wait-until-this-hits-your-block-committee dept.

GNUStep 279

itwbennett writes "A large number of Chinese parents are finding their teenagers to be exhibiting such psychological symptoms as depression, antisocial behavior, and slipping grades. The cause: Internet addiction. World of Warcraft and Counter-Strike rank beside Chinese role-playing games as those that hook the most patients, says Tao Ran, the founder of a youth rehabilitation center on a Beijing army base. Online chat programs more often hook girls, who make up a handful of Tao's current 70 patients. The teens are subjected to a 'strict regimen of military drills, martial arts training, lectures and sessions with psychiatrists.' And, most importantly: no Internet."

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Your Rights Online (1)

S7urm (126547) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644105)

I would think of this as more of a "News" Article than anything else

Re:Your Rights Online (2, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644301)

...Except for the fact that I consider it a right to use what you payed for so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. This "boot camp" takes away those rights (anyone else find it just a bit suspicious that its located on an army base?).

Re:Your Rights Online (5, Informative)

brkello (642429) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644353)

Kids probably aren't paying for the Internet connection and they do not have the rights of an adult. The addiction is hurting their intellectual and social progress. Is that their choice? Not while they are dependents.

Americans send their fat kids to boot camp. I really wouldn't be suspicious.

Re:Your Rights Online (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644423)

The idea that "fat camp" is any more acceptable than this crap is deplorable.

Re:Your Rights Online (2, Interesting)

DrLang21 (900992) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644505)

Aside from the fact that the parents are almost always to blame in cases of child obesity, what exactly is wrong with "fat camp"? Quite honestly, morbid child obesity without a clear medical explanation should be grounds for child abuse.

Re:Your Rights Online (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644569)

... morbid child obesity without a clear medical explanation should be grounds for child abuse.

I mean, I am all for fighting obesity in all ways possible, but it just doesn't seem right to beat children or otherwise abuse them simply because they are overweight.

Re:Your Rights Online (5, Funny)

Groggnrath (1089073) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645347)

I mean, I am all for fighting obesity in all ways possible, but it just doesn't seem right to beat children or otherwise abuse them simply because they are overweight.

Not to mention it isn't very fair. It's not like they can run from you. Or if they can, it's not like they can run far.

Mod up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644945)

Children might take drugs without their parents' knowledge, but never excessive food. Whether a morbidly fat kid has become subject to a debilitating and horrible situation is debatable, but if the answer is "yes", then parents should take a lot of supervisory blame.

Re:Mod up (3, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645215)

There is a difference between excessive to one person and excessive to another. I know plenty of people who don't get very much activity, eat things loaded in sugar and fat, yet are incredibly skinny and healthy looking. I know other people who exercise a ton, eat extremely healthy food choices, yet are very, very large. There are some reasons for obesity that go way beyond just what you eat. Some bodies have a natural tendency to be large, others have a natural tendency to be very skinny. You should not punish parents for something they can't really control.

Re:Your Rights Online (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644865)

You sound fat.

Re:Your Rights Online (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28645241)

Sounds like something a fatty would say.

Re:Your Rights Online (5, Insightful)

fishbowl (7759) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644429)

It's *China*. When it comes down to it, nobody has any rights, in the sense that Europeans or Americans think of rights.

Re:Your Rights Online (4, Insightful)

plasticsquirrel (637166) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644965)

That's because "rights" are an idea from western civilization, and most other cultures had different notions about justice and social harmony. Considering that over 40 million Chinese died during the "Great Leap Forward," and countless more before that in previous wars and revolutions, we don't have the same perspective on stability that they do. The coastal city of Ningbo, for example, was bombed with the bubonic plague by the Japanese during World War II. The amount of violence and upheaval that the Chinese have faced in the last hundred years is incredible, and sometimes I think that we Slashdotters would do well to relax and give them some time to sort things out (it is their own country, after all). They have a 5000 year old civilization, after all, and things aren't going to implode because pimply-faced teenage kids have to do martial arts rather than play World of Warcraft.

Re:Your Rights Online (-1, Troll)

blahplusplus (757119) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645225)

"That's because "rights" are an idea from western civilization, and most other cultures had different notions about justice and social harmony. Considering that over 40 million Chinese died during the "Great Leap Forward," and countless more before that in previous wars and revolutions, we don't have the same perspective on stability that they do."

The slashdot crowd draws hypercapitalist americans and their sympathizers, of course anything communist/china related anything that infringes on their own sense of cultural/ideological superiority is going to get their pants in a twist. Many slashdotters get tired of these idealogues who border on the fringe of nutterhood, immaturity, lack of life experience or all of the above.

The fact is slashdot draws a highly americanized crowd and americans and western people in general tend to have a puffed up image of themselves since most of them have no sense of their own bloody history, nor can they smell their own stench of taking any principle to the extremes (i.e. freedom vs recent economic meltdown). All people (even nerds sadly) tend to cling to simple ideologies because it takes a lot of hard slog and life experience and the school of hard knocks to see that the world is not an ideology, and due to the complexity and difficulty of accessing more difficult truths, and those truths take a lifetime or more to hammer out. But every ideologue is in a rush saying ".. we have the answer follow me!"

Re:Your Rights Online (4, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645243)

Rights are an important part of humanity. Depriving people of that deprives them of their humanity. If we can't judge the Chinese government for depriving citizens of rights, then thats no different then allowing waterboarding in the US (its part of our culture) or cannibalism (theres nothing wrong with cannibalism, its part of their culture).

Re:Your Rights Online (5, Insightful)

rothic (596907) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645271)

...sometimes I think that we Slashdotters would do well to relax and give them some time to sort things out...

The Chinese are going to "sort things out" whether Slashdotters relax, don't relax or even throw a massively coordinated e-tantrum. Slashdot isn't actually really all that influential as it turns out.

Re:Your Rights Online (2)

clarkkent09 (1104833) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645359)

That's because "rights" are an idea from western civilization, and most other cultures had different notions about justice and social harmony.

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/ [un.org] By the way, what exactly are you talking about? Chinese have had a turbulent history, so what? We shouldn't be critical of the current Chinese government because 40 million have died at the hands of its predecessor with whom (on paper at least) it shares the same ideology? I don't understand what your point is.

Re:Your Rights Online (0, Offtopic)

WaXHeLL (452463) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645465)

And we shouldn't be critical about our own current US government that has assassinated leaders, orchestrated coups, and has been directly responsible for numerous deaths?

Please do some reading on the following topics:
The Shah of Iran
Manuel Noriega
Phillipine-American War
CIA intervention in Chile

etc, etc, etc

Re:Your Rights Online (1, Troll)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644435)

This is China though. Who is to say that the parents are really sending their kids there or is it the government prodding the parents to send their kids there?

The addiction is hurting their intellectual and social progress. Is that their choice? Not while they are dependents.

How? I'd imagine that a ton more people are more severely addicted to TV, sports, books and activities considered "normal" than are "addicted" to MMOs. I'd imagine the guy who spends 6 hours a day playing WoW is better off then the guy who goes to the gym for 6 hours a day. As for social progress, its a lot more social to fire up a game of WoW and chat than it is to go to the gym. And intellectual? With WoW you are constantly reading and writing and doing math.

Re:Your Rights Online (4, Insightful)

CorporateSuit (1319461) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644543)

How? I'd imagine that a ton more people are more severely addicted to TV, sports, books and activities considered "normal" than are "addicted" to MMOs. I'd imagine the guy who spends 6 hours a day playing WoW is better off then the guy who goes to the gym for 6 hours a day. As for social progress, its a lot more social to fire up a game of WoW and chat than it is to go to the gym. And intellectual? With WoW you are constantly reading and writing and doing math.

Spending 6 hours a day doing something does not make it an addiction. Suffering from depression because you aren't spending 6 hours a day doing something makes it an addiction (outside of sleeping and autonomous functions). Addiction will cause everything directly not linked to that addiction to suffer as a result of it to one degree or another. Spending time talking to people in Azeroth is not as socially healthy as talking to people face to face. It's healthier than spending time in front of a tv or book. As a freetime activity, it's healthier than many things unless you let it become detrimental to your real non-make-believe life. It's not a problem when an activity is a healthy relief of pressure and stress... It's a problem when it's an addiction, then you may need help to return it to normal, healthy levels.

Re:Your Rights Online (1, Troll)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644625)

Spending 6 hours a day doing something does not make it an addiction. Suffering from depression because you aren't spending 6 hours a day doing something makes it an addiction (outside of sleeping and autonomous functions)

...So someone really likes something. I know a lot of people who suffer from depression from something that they weren't exactly addicted to. Is someone addicted to their job if they get depressed if they get laid off? Is someone addicted to their wife/husband if they get depressed after they get divorced, move away or die? By your definition the average person is addicted to a bunch of stuff.

Spending time talking to people in Azeroth is not as socially healthy as talking to people face to face.

How many people can actually though on a daily basis talk to a good amount of friends face to face? Very few. There are a good deal of friends who either have strange schedules where we can't really meet (like one has a job a night so he has off when I'm working and when I'm done with work he is at work) so we use e-mail/social networking to communicate. Others simply live too far away to see on a regular basis. Aside from students who see a bunch of people they can really be friends with on a daily basis, most people have very few friends they can really meet face to face and so they communicate either via e-mail, texting or phone calls. Or is it just "unhealthy" to talk to people you haven't physically met?

Re:Your Rights Online (3, Insightful)

CorporateSuit (1319461) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644877)

With your first point, you're setting up strawmen. Depression from loss or trauma is not the same as withdrawal symptoms. I used the line to make a very limited, simple point. There's no argument in stretching it beyond the point it was meant to make. I didn't feel it neccessary to write an 60,000 word essay on the differences between hobby and addiction.

With your second paragraph, you're skirting the issue. Is it a better social experience to speak with a friend face to face or online? It's healthier to talk to a person than to talk to words on a screen. Allow me to make an analogy of this conversation if we were discussing food:
Me: It's healthier to eat vegetables than junk food. It's ok to eat junk food as long as it's not interfering with the rest of your diet.
You: What if junk food is all you have? Not everyone has vegetables available.

It is simplified, but contains the neccessary arguments. I believe you are capable of answering your own questions at this point, even if they were meant to be rhetorical (I won't assume whether they were or were not).

Re:Your Rights Online (1)

Randall311 (866824) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644719)

Addiction will cause everything directly not linked to that addiction to suffer as a result of it to one degree or another.

What you say?

Re:Your Rights Online (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644563)

This is China though. Who is to say...

You, I'm sure. When you talk about China, I trust that you draw upon your vast amount of personal experience while shunning preconceived notions, stereotypes and heresay.

Re:Your Rights Online (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644717)

This is China though. Who is to say...

You, I'm sure. When you talk about China, I trust that you draw upon your vast amount of personal experience while shunning preconceived notions, stereotypes and heresay.

I see. So, in other words, you're claiming that China is not a totalitarian state?

Re:Your Rights Online (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644753)

I see. So, in other words, you're claiming that China is not a totalitarian state?

That is correct, but has no bearing on Internet boot camp. China isn't forcing anyone to be in these camps.

Re:Your Rights Online (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644879)

AC, you're absolutely delusional if you think China is not a totalitarian state. In fact, I'm willing to bet you know it is, but instead like f-ing with us just to get a reaction. So ya, I guess I am giving you the benefit of the doubt.

Scary. I'm actually being nice for once today. Not that *you* deserve it!

Re:Your Rights Online (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644987)

The U.S. is well on its way to joining China's status as a totalitarian state.

China - Tienanmen Sq.
U.S. - Republican Nat'l Convention (less fatal)

China - Great Firewall
U.S. - NSA and Obama

China - No pornography
U.S. - Hot coffee, etc., moral police

China - Unreasonable detentions
U.S. - Unreasonable detentions. Gitmo's still open for business, not to mention alternate detainment facilities

China - Massive stimulus plan
U.S. - See above

Re:Your Rights Online (2, Insightful)

Dr. Impossible (1580675) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644735)

I'd imagine the guy who spends 6 hours a day playing WoW is better off then the guy who goes to the gym for 6 hours a day.

I also hear that drinking Coca-Cola is a lot better than drinking water.

As for social progress, its a lot more social to fire up a game of WoW and chat than it is to go to the gym.

You might end up talking to someone at the gym, and at the very least you're among people. When you're playing WoW you're all by yourself. Contrary to what some nerds tell themselves, chatting online does nothing to improve your social skills.

And intellectual? With WoW you are constantly reading and writing and doing math.

I can't remember ever doing any math in WoW, and the reading was mostly limited to finding out what I need to kill next.

You did not explain how WoW keeps you in shape and improves your physical health (oh, wait, it doesn't!).

World of Warcraft is not productive or useful, and not a substitute for social interaction, intellectual stimulation and excercise.

Re:Your Rights Online (0, Troll)

Dr. Impossible (1580675) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645363)

Jesus fucking Christ on a fucking pogo stick, I'm a troll for explaining that World of Warcraft is a video game and not a substitute for real life? What the fuck.

Re:Your Rights Online (4, Insightful)

wintermute000 (928348) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644795)

Addicted to gym is worse than addicted to WoW?

Now I've heard it all.

Every time I read about someone proclaiming the virtues of WoW and how it teaches reading, writing, math etc. I just have to laugh and wonder whether the OP is just trying to justify their own pathetic (yes, I think WoW addicts are pathetic) addictions

Re:Your Rights Online (1)

Fulcrum of Evil (560260) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645069)

Come on, this is China. Only the ruling elite have rights. Everyone else is so much chattel.

Re:Your Rights Online (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28645153)

Come on, this is China. Only the ruling elite have rights. Everyone else is so much chattel.

As if it were different anywhere else in the world.

Re:Your Rights Online (1)

twostix (1277166) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645345)

We're talking about China here, not the US.

The same China that's just arrested an Australian citizen - the head of Rio Tintos (a massive Aussie mining company) Shanghai operations on "economic espionage" charges conveniently two weeks after Rio Tinto severely embarrassed China by abruptly walking away from their negotiations where the Chinese government via Chinalco was hoping to buy a large stake in the company.

You "wouldn't be suspicious" because you have no measure to understand the level of totalitarian control the Chinese government exerts.

The whole world does not operate like the USA, England, Australia or Germany - as Rio Tinto have just found out.

Twenty years ago it would have been understood that these kids were being sent to be "re-educated" and people in the west would have spat on the ground at the Chinese governments tyranny. Now people in the west, such as yourself, give them the benefit of the doubt.

The Chinese government hasn't changed in that time, but a hell of a lot of westerners attitudes towards their methods have.

Re:Your Rights Online (0, Redundant)

Slashdot Suxxors (1207082) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644359)

Dude, it's China.

Re:Your Rights Online (4, Informative)

DrLang21 (900992) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644477)

Except for the fact that it's the parents that are sending their kids to this place. Believe it or not, parents actually have an over riding authority on what their kids will and will not do even in the US.

Re:Your Rights Online (1)

Swizec (978239) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644555)

...Except for the fact that I consider it a right to use what you payed for so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. This "boot camp" takes away those rights (anyone else find it just a bit suspicious that its located on an army base?).

By that analogy we shouldn't be treating heroin addicts either.

Re:Your Rights Online (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645319)

In the end, no. If the heroin addict really wants to be treated let them, if not, they continue to buy heroin and keep pumping money into the economy and the world continues.

Re:Your Rights Online (1)

kzieli (1355557) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644721)

As a parent I don't find this alarming in the slightest. If one of my sons developed an Addiction that I could not help him with I would also seek eternal help. And if the recomended course of action was to send him to such a program Then I would follow it.

One problem with the approach however is that the addict is taken out of their normal environment can lead to a sense of false progress. Often when someone comes back to their old environment, hangs out with friends who practically live online etc, environmental ques will bring back the old behavior.

This is a common thing seen with drug addiction. Its easy for a user to stay clean while they are in jail. But chances are that once they get out they'll go back to using.

Their seem two factors which contribute to the news value of this:

  1. Its in China so it must have sinister ulterior motives (which I don't buy)
  2. As heavy computer users we would all like to pretend that internet addition isn't possible.

I don't agree with either of the above. Personally I find American Jesus Camps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Camp [wikipedia.org] much more alarming.

Re:Your Rights Online (1)

russotto (537200) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645113)

This is a common thing seen with drug addiction. Its easy for a user to stay clean while they are in jail. But chances are that once they get out they'll go back to using.

Maybe it isn't an addiction at that point. The withdrawal symptoms are over, the physical dependence is demonstrably absent. Maybe it's just something they fucking LIKE DOING. Whatever it is, whether drugs or eating or gambling or indeed the Internet. Just because a bunch of bluenoses have managed to demonize the activity by claiming it's an addiction doesn't mean it really is.

(Contrast smoking, which it is decidedly NOT easy for a user to stay clean while in jail, even in jails where smoking is forbidden. Now THAT is an addiction)

Re:Your Rights Online (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28645263)

This is a common thing seen with drug addiction. Its easy for a user to stay clean while they are in jail. But chances are that once they get out they'll go back to using.

Not even slightly accurate. Where on earth did you get this idea?

Number one, there's a substantial traffic in drugs going on inside the jail walls, meaning the users (many of whom were sent there for drug offences in the first place) have no shortage of dangerous crud to smoke, shoot or snort. It's not as if the walls that surround them completely cut them off, not while there is corruption to be exploited.

Partly as a consequence of this, more addicts leave the prison system than enter it - sticking somebody in jail for a non-drug related offence alongside a bunch of former addicts and dealers is a good way to give said dealers a new customer. People get depressed, there's narcotics to be had, they solve the former problem with the latter.

Number two, an addict has to want to get clean. Sticking them in jail does not accomplish this - at best they want out. Put someone who does drugs in a confined environment with other people who also do drugs, no women, and very little to do... does this sound like a working strategy?

Re:Your Rights Online (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645087)

Try telling that to the judge when he busts you for smoking a joint. This isn't so bad in comparison to the War on Drug Users.

I'm not addict! (1)

Mishotaki (957104) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644127)

I can stop whenever i want.... just let me post one more time....

Re:I'm not addict! (-1, Flamebait)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644145)

The Americans need it more than the Chinese do. At least the Chinese don't get fat.

Re:I'm not addict! (5, Funny)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644485)

At least the Chinese don't get fat

Oh, don't worry, they're catching up [english1.cri.cn] .

That's the great thing about exporting American culture... eventually, the rest of the world will be as fat and lazy as we are.

It's obvious where this is going. Just read all the articles about the billions we're spending on the development of remote control flying killing machines. Our enemies will be too fat too run away, but our technology will allow us to fight even as we need to clean ourselves with a rag-on-a-stick.

World domination is at hand!

MWUA-HA-HA-HORK-acktph-[gasp]-[grunt]-HORK-[splat]-HA-HA-HA

Re:I'm not addict! (1)

tokyoahead (743189) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644943)

They do. And not too little. The Chinese one-child policy has led to a behavior that the single child of the many-headed family gets spoiled beyond belief. Since the whole family lives together, a 4 to 8 headed family can cook for the little brat.

Regularly, on Chinese new year, where sweets and food are even more popular than anyhow already in Chinese daily life, thousands of kids are admitted to hospital because of digestion trouble. When the Chinese Zodiac of the "golden pig" had it's turn (last year?), a Hong Kong newspaper had a picture of a hospital in China that was completely overcrowded with fat little kids on it's front page with the headline "The year of the Golden Pig(s)!"

Re:I'm not addict! (0, Offtopic)

S7urm (126547) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644147)

oh yeah! well I'm addicted to getting Frist Prost!

oh wait.........that was my first one :(

Re:I'm not addict! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644991)

Yes I can quit anytime as well I mean how hard would that Right ???

Re:I'm not addict! (1)

CrashNBrn (1143981) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645407)

Me neither, Just...one..more...turn "Sid Meier's" :-)

Cynical thought (2, Funny)

jaxtherat (1165473) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644135)

Also a great way of recruiting for their already massive army...

Re:Cynical thought (1)

royallthefourth (1564389) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644325)

When you've got a country with that many people and that much manufacturing capacity, you can get a huge army without resorting to oddball tactics like this.

I think the real reason is genuine concern over a social problem that may be far more pronounced in China than it is here. They also have a heavy-handed government that doesn't mind creating a new social program at the drop of a hat, so they end up with all kinds of (wacky) things being done so that every branch of every agency can say "Look what we did!"

Boys and Girls (3, Insightful)

arizwebfoot (1228544) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644157)

World of Warcraft and Counter-Strike... those that hook the most patients (boys)

Online chat programs more often hook girls

Why am I not surprised that the girls like to talk and the boys like to play combat (remember cowboys and indians? cops and robbers?).

Very indicative of our society as a whole. Just sayin' . . .

Re:Boys and Girls (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644315)

Why am I surprised that such a banal comment got posted to Slashdot?

Re:Boys and Girls (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644339)

Actually I thought it was pretty good, though may be quite the stereotyping, but then who doesn't.

Re:Boys and Girls (2, Funny)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644417)

"Online chat programs more often hook girls"

Why am I not surprised that the girls like to talk and the boys like to play combat (remember cowboys and indians? cops and robbers?).

I know, right? I mean, when I'm online on chat sites, it's amazing that all the people who are on all day are girls. Take last Sunday, for example. 4 AM... a bunch of girls are online, and some guys. 10 AM... the same girls but a bunch of different guys. 4 PM... still the same girls, and new guys. 8 PM... same deal.

I mean seriously, the only people who are addicted to chat and are on all day are girls.

[pause for gender identification]

Well, and one guy. At least.

Re:Boys and Girls (2, Funny)

selven (1556643) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645155)

Don't you know that FBI agents have shifts?

Re:Boys and Girls (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644937)

Why am I not surprised that the girls like to talk and the boys like to play combat (remember cowboys and indians? cops and robbers?). Very indicative of our society as a whole.

Women are more social and emotional. Men are more physical and logical. Of course, there's always a rule to the exception. But on the whole, this is human nature. It's rooted in our DNA.

If you ask me, I don't find this surprising in the least.

Re:Boys and Girls (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645085)

Why am I not surprised that the girls like to talk and the boys like to play combat (remember cowboys and indians? cops and robbers?).

Very indicative of our society as a whole. Just sayin' . . .

OUR society? You're chinese? You might want to log off now, I bet at those boot camps, the regular web addicts pick on the slashdotters.

Boot Camp (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644311)

I saw the title and thought of the Windows compatibility software. Maybe I need some of that therapy...

Re:Boot Camp (1)

Slashdot Suxxors (1207082) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644389)

Boot Camp is just a fancy dual boot on Intel-based Apple machines.

evil. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644401)

Because as we all know, the whole internet is evil. There are obviously no good uses for it, and obviously, it is all games and time wasters.

Re:evil. (1)

calmofthestorm (1344385) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644427)

Don't forget child porn and cyberterrorism. They have those there too.

Military Strategy (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644455)

American - kill all your allies in 'friendly' fire incidents. Full auto on anything that moves, may move or have previously moved. Aw Hell full auto on anything.

Chinese (according to the Geneva Convention on war ) Day 1 - One million unarmed troops invade Alaska and surrender.
Day 2 - One million unarmed troops invade Alaska and surrender.
Day 3 - One million unarmed troops invade Alaska and surrender.
.
.
Day 5 - US economy collapses US surrenders.

Re: Military Strategy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644597)

Obviously we're going to have to start shooting people who are trying to surrender. It's just simple economics.

Re: Military Strategy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644691)

US Counter-strategy:

The boats the Chinese used mysteriously sink.

Either that, or donate Alaska back to Russia for a bit.

Re: Military Strategy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644971)

Well I was going to say Texas but I doubt even the Chinese want to go there.

Re: Military Strategy (3, Interesting)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645017)

That sounds like our history of immigration.
Wave after wave, all of them eventually assimilated. It turns out to be pretty good for the economy.

These drils and training (4, Interesting)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644527)

What's the grind like once you hit level 30?

The most devestating technique in their arsenal.. (5, Funny)

Mauzl (1312177) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644549)

.. exposure to girls.

This guy is basically an asshole. (2, Funny)

mynickslongerthanurs (1322243) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644551)

Here goes his business model:

1, Preach on media the harm of "Internet Addiction" on children.
2, Tell irresponsible parents that it's not their fault (which actually is).
3, Open an "Internet Addition" rehab.
4, Charge rediculous fees.
5, Abuse his patients untill they promise (or pretend to promise) they will never play World of Warcraft (or whatever their parents deem as harmful) again.
6, Parents get pleased and more parents send their kids to his rehab.
7, PROFIT!

After all, I must say he's slightly better than the ultimate asshole named Yang Yongxin. At least he doesn't employ high voltage shock therapy in his rehab.

Where do I sign up? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644603)

FTA:
"...The teens are subjected to a strict regimen of military drills, martial arts training, lectures..."

So they're teaching these depressed internet-addicted teens to be real-life ninjas? Here in the US, being a depressed internet-addicted teen gets you beat-up at school and rejected by women.

You win this round, China.

World is a changing... (4, Interesting)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644703)

50 years ago, going out was the norm. 20 years ago, occasionally going out was the norm.

Today, spending an evening at home is the norm, where it's cheaper and you can connect with someone halfway across the world who you know will share your interests, and not spurn you(and if they do, you can find someone else). You're also not faced with personal problems such as personal performance, social anxiety, or the real fear of making an ass out of yourself, etc. There's people you never have to face, but will listen.

Move forward 10 years, as the new kiddie-tech generation moves even further online? I see individuals who will prefer to remain connected at all costs because of this. We have people now who need to know all information at all times, need make sure that they're in instant contact with the world around them. And are experiencing this now.

I don't see it changing, I see it increasing. China, US, Canada, any country in the world can do whatever they like to try and change it. But the more interconnected the world becomes, the smaller it gets. The smaller it gets, the more people want to remain connected to it.

Re:World is a changing... (1)

twostix (1277166) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645453)

Fifty years ago my parents went to town once a week on a Sunday and once every second week on a thursday to do the grocery shopping. If they were lucky once every three to six months they'd do something "social" and that usually meant visiting relatives and staying with them in their house or vice a versa or going to a dance.

70 years ago my grandparents would go a month or two without seeing anyone else except their neighbors - given that town was a three hour trip by horse and the nearest city two days...

The idea of "going out" and being some sort of social butterfly on the town for the vast majority of people is pretty new.

First China, then... (1, Funny)

Foobar of Borg (690622) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644713)

If this works in China, it will be the next Obama Youth program...

Re:First China, then... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28644979)

If this works in China, it will be the next Obama Youth program...

Absolutely not! Electric shocks would never be used. That would be cruel and unusual. Lectures by Al Gore, however...

Yes, that makes sense (4, Interesting)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644723)

Take a bunch of kids that like to sit around playing games and browsing for porn, isolate them from friends and family, label them as "addicts", brainwash them, put rifles in their hands and train them how to kill people, then declare them "cured". I'm glad that society has its priorities right.

Re:Yes, that makes sense (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645099)

Take a bunch of kids that like to sit around playing games and browsing for porn, isolate them from friends and family, label them as "addicts", brainwash them, put rifles in their hands and train them how to kill people, then declare them "cured". I'm glad that society has its priorities right.

Plus side: chinese army staging a coup demanding porn and WOW will be pretty entertaining in a few years.

Re:Yes, that makes sense (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645321)

If you were really paranoid, you might speculate as to whether this was a drone pilot recruitment program.

Good idea. (5, Interesting)

spyder-implee (864295) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644867)

Having gone through Boot Camp myself (Not in China mind you) I highly recommend it as a means of turning useless people into productive citizens.

Re:Good idea. (5, Funny)

CarpetShark (865376) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644891)

Having gone through Boot Camp myself (Not in China mind you) I highly recommend it as a means of turning useless people into productive citizens.

Of course, having gone through boot camp, you'll never know for sure if that's really what you think, or if that's what they told you to think ;)

Re:Good idea. (4, Funny)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645109)

Having gone through Boot Camp myself (Not in China mind you) I highly recommend it as a means of turning useless people into productive citizens.

Productive you say? I can't help noticing you're posting to /. ...

Re:Good idea. (1)

spyder-implee (864295) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645231)

Your military budget at work my friend. :)

Re:Good idea. (1, Insightful)

MindlessAutomata (1282944) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645247)

Basically, you've been brainwashed to obey orders and view people who live their own lives as "useless." Ah, the military, gotta love 'em.

Re:Good idea. (1)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645265)

I think the productive effect of said training is highly dependent on the degree to which it was voluntary.

Re:Good idea. (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645301)

You mean "useless" people that are the foundation for every economy? You mean "useless" people who invent stuff? "Useless" people who make music? Really, all boot camp does is tell you to follow orders. In the end, when you have a bunch of people following orders, you have basically useless people. In the end it is always the free thinking and creative people who change and alter the world that will make it a better place.

Re:Good idea. (1)

spyder-implee (864295) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645379)

Rubbish. You think because you're not in the military you're not just a brainwashed consumer listening to your mass-marketed music with your iPhone and facebook? Yeah, you're a real free thinking individual.

Re:Good idea. (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645435)

Please tell me how going to boot camp really made you a more productive individual to society.

Re:Good idea. (0)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645311)

Having gone through boot camp I know that it teaches the smarter folks to stay under the radar and let the idiots have all the attention. The downside to that is that those same idiots will be your supervisors years later.

What you said about it turning useless idiots into productive citizens is really a crap-shoot. Some straighten-up, others use their skills for bad things. [wikipedia.org] It also turns people who thought they were productive in high school into useless idiots because they can't think outside the box. Many of them stay in the service because they're so used to being told what to do, having their lives managed down to slightest wiping of the ass.

Re:Good idea. (1)

twostix (1277166) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645387)

What exactly is a "useless person"?

People should learn their place as productive units in the larger social machine. Because after all, the group comes before the individual doesn't it.

Re:Good idea. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28645399)

Indeed, I often wish I could join the military just to whip some discipline into me. Too bad I'm medically disqualified.

Send them all to Eastern Turkestan (1)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644933)

Let the Han kids and the Uighur kids duke it out on some deserted corner of Xinjiang. That'll teach them. Maybe they'll even come with some ideas to help their parents sort things out.

More of a health issue.... (5, Insightful)

hengdi (1202709) | more than 5 years ago | (#28644939)

Most students that I teach in China (18-22) can't afford the computer required, so they play WOW and CS at their Internet bar. These places are usually dark, dingy and full of second-hand cigarette smoke. They make some of my teenage hacker basements look positively healthy. So I think it's not that the parents are really worried about the length of time spent playing, it's the conditions they are played under.

Is this really news? (1)

xhamulnazgul (996557) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645027)

This has been going on there for YEARS! I mean really just look at what a simple search [google.com] returns on this subject.

Boot Camp Therapy (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28645135)

Boot Camp? But.. are Web Addicts only Mac Users?

we don't need no.... (2, Funny)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645245)

...re-education camps.

So how do you tell the difference? (2, Funny)

harryjohnston (1118069) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645273)

Let's see ... the symptoms are depression, antisocial behavior, and slipping grades. Except perhaps for the last one, that sounds like any teenager I've ever met.

ambivalence (1)

nixish (1390127) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645295)

I am a bit ambivalent about this approach. On one hand, the Chinese government is trying to shape today's youth into something which will contribute to society. On the other, there could be unnecessary victims and they could end up screwed up and this approach might work in Creating a counter productive individual for society. I hope the good outweighs the bad but that will not be found out so soon.

Re:ambivalence (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645393)

On one hand, the Chinese government is trying to shape today's youth into something which will contribute to society

...And when has a "good member of society" like that ever really done anything good for society? Lets see, Thomas Edison only had a few months of traditional schooling, yet he became a very successful inventor and businessman. The history books are filled with people who didn't fit society's expectations and changed history for the better. On the other hand, there are comparatively very little people who followed society's instructions and really ended up benefiting society.

Something tells me that the average internet "addicted" kid is going to be a lot better at some parts of computers than the person with many years of college education on computers. And that internet "addicted" kid could very well invent the next great thing in computers, where if they had been following society's instructions they would be making little more than a paycheck.

better than ECT (2, Insightful)

euyis (1521257) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645297)

It's much better than electroconvulsive therapy, which they have used.

I don't think this is going to work... (3, Insightful)

Zakabog (603757) | more than 5 years ago | (#28645427)

I really don't think this is going to work, I've been through boot camp (USMC), and once I went back to civilian life (I had a shoulder injury that prevented me from finishing the last week of training and then going on to serve.) I was pretty much the same person. The only difference is when I came out I had military training, I feel more calm in stressful situations than I did before, and I'm more confident in my fighting and survival abilities. I still play video games and browse the internet as much as I did before I joined the Marines. So if you go into boot camp as an internet addicted teenager you're going to come out as an internet addicted teenager, with military training. Unless they're sending them into the army right after they're not going to keep in that mindset, they're going to go back to the internet and their video games. Perhaps sending them to a summer camp where they have many activities to choose from would be a better idea. Hikes through the woods, swimming, sports, and being encourage to speak to other people and socialize would be good for these people. The boot camp seems like it would be too much like work for these kids and they would just resent it rather than enjoy it.
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