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ISS Launches First Permanent Node of "Interplanetary Internet"

timothy posted about 5 years ago | from the wake-me-up-when-the-terminator-gets-here dept.

The Internet 121

schliz writes "Researchers developing the 'Interplanetary Internet' have launched its first permanent node in space via a payload aboard the International Space Station. The network is based on a new communications protocol called Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking (DTN). It will be tested heavily this month, and could give astronauts direct Internet access within a year. The Interplanetary Internet is the brainchild of Vint Cerf ('father of the Internet'), among others. Last year, NASA tested the technology on the Deep Impact spacecraft." Update: 07/13 20:01 GMT by KD : If by "permanent" we mean seven years.

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121 comments

Al Gore In Space (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28674533)

Now that's a movie worth full admission and oversized popped corn.

Vint Cerf is not the father of the Internet ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28675309)

... I am. I tagged the story !father so you know to correct it. thxbai

It will be tested heavily this month... (4, Funny)

ei4anb (625481) | about 5 years ago | (#28674535)

"It will be tested heavily this month" , so, they are going to post the URL on slashdot ?

Re:It will be tested heavily this month... (4, Interesting)

GaryOlson (737642) | about 5 years ago | (#28674651)

Seed a torrent of the latest Harry Potter movie....that should demonstrate the magic of DTN.

Re:It will be tested heavily this month... (2, Funny)

boaworm (180781) | about 5 years ago | (#28675759)

Well at least the DMCA should not apply in Space, should it?

Re:It will be tested heavily this month... (1)

ivucica (1001089) | about 5 years ago | (#28676443)

The Berne convention might :)

Re:It will be tested heavily this month... (2, Informative)

CarpetShark (865376) | about 5 years ago | (#28675461)

"It will be tested heavily this month" , so, they are going to post the URL on slashdot ?

No, they're going to let slashdotters whine about it, and see if it cracks.

Re:It will be tested heavily this month... (1)

yabos (719499) | about 5 years ago | (#28675543)

The astronauts will be downloading lots of pr0n.

Hack the orbit (1)

CHRONOSS2008 (1226498) | about 5 years ago | (#28676559)

haha variation on hack the planet

lol (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28674563)

It...could give astronauts direct Internet access within a year

i am in ur space station, trollin' ur boards!

Re:lol (0)

Descalzo (898339) | about 5 years ago | (#28674935)

That's high latency.

Re:lol (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28678101)

True, but there's a certain je ne sais quoi to being able to simply drop a piece of space junk on that asshole who just ruined your thread.

"Permanent"??? (3, Insightful)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 5 years ago | (#28674569)

Uh... sorry. But NASA's plans for the ISS, or anything like it at this time, are hardly "permanent".

If you want them to be, get off your butts and tell that to the Whitehouse and your Congresscritters. Because they obviously don't know.

Re:"Permanent"??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28674875)

This is very true.
At least the Russians are planning to save their effort.

Seriously, someone smart(er) needs to be placed in NASA, because right now the idiots there at the moment don't deserve to be in that position.
It would be much better to keep it up there and use the materials.
Get a recycler up there if you have to take apart the thing and re-use.

I certainly wouldn't want to put fucktons of money into a project JUST to burn it up in the atmosphere!
STOP WASTING OUR MONEY

Re:"Permanent"??? (1)

Razalhague (1497249) | about 5 years ago | (#28675007)

STOP WASTING OUR MONEY

I think that's the whole point of bringing it down.

Re:"Permanent"??? (2, Insightful)

owlstead (636356) | about 5 years ago | (#28675233)

Permanent is relative. It may be permanent compared to the time ISS will stay in space from the moment they install the node. In the end, of course, nothing is completely permanent compared to the time left to the universe - unless it disappears suddenly.

Re:"Permanent"??? (1)

jo42 (227475) | about 5 years ago | (#28675561)

I read somewhere NASA plans to de-orbit the ISS in 2016 due to budgetary concerns...

Re:"Permanent"??? (1)

jc42 (318812) | about 5 years ago | (#28676115)

I read somewhere NASA plans to de-orbit the ISS in 2016 due to budgetary concerns...
You probably read it here on slashdot. In my FF tab showing the /. main page, it's three stories higher on the screen. TFA for that one references a couple of news publications' stories on the topic.

(Yeah, I read that one earlier than this one, too. They both appeared on my screen at the same time. I guess I was busy and didn't refresh /. for over two hours. ;-)

Re:"Permanent"??? (1)

caluml (551744) | about 5 years ago | (#28679235)

I read somewhere NASA plans to de-orbit the ISS in 2016 due to budgetary concerns...
You probably read it here on slashdot. In my FF tab showing the /. main page, it's three stories higher on the screen.

Er, whoosh? Also - jo42, jc42 - is this some new meme?

Re:"Permanent"??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28675757)

I hate to break it to you, but the pseudo-word "congresscritters" is pretty lame.

Re:"Permanent"??? (1)

Gilmoure (18428) | about 5 years ago | (#28680123)

It makes me think of Gremlins, in suits.

It is only a matter of time... (2, Funny)

lxs (131946) | about 5 years ago | (#28674593)

Before we'll have our first bittorrent tracker on mars.

Re:It is only a matter of time... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28674609)

Be fun for the RIAA to try and seize that one.

Re:It is only a matter of time... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28674723)

"[Hauser] Now, this is the plan. Get your ass to Mars!"

Re:It is only a matter of time... (1)

angelwolf71885 (1181671) | about 5 years ago | (#28675321)

thay will just claim the DMCA applys to all world throughout time and imperturbably then some alien from omacon pers-i 8 desecrates thair lawyers

Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking? (2, Interesting)

BenEnglishAtHome (449670) | about 5 years ago | (#28674601)

Hmmmmm. Will we get an earthly version of DTN that ensures I can successfully download large files over TOR? Now, *that* would be useful.

Re:Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28674857)

FUKKEN SAVED?

Re:Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28674981)

TOR isn't meant to transfer large files anyways, and your abuse of it is part of the reason the network sucks.

Re:Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking? (1)

CarpetShark (865376) | about 5 years ago | (#28675503)

He's not talking about P2P over Tor, he's talking about large files. Since the web is designed to handle links without caring about their size, Tor's solution is flawed if it can't handle them. When's the last time you saw a link with a size attribute, or a "too big for anonymous networks" flag along with the href?

Re:Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking? (1)

ImYourVirus (1443523) | about 5 years ago | (#28675747)

I wouldn't say tor is for watching youtube videos either or whatever you mean by 'large files' one can really only assume p2p. Besides not even counting p2p, tor is still not meant for large files of any kind, and it is the reason the network does suck.

Re:Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking? (1)

Khyber (864651) | about 5 years ago | (#28678499)

No, TOR sucks because of moron ISPs capping upload bandwidth. Were that fixed TOR would run very reliably.

Re:Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking? (1)

CarpetShark (865376) | about 5 years ago | (#28679351)

There are plenty of large files on the net that have NOTHING to do with P2P, and look entirely like any other file or link until you click on them (and conceptually ARE entirely like any other link, regardless of the larger size). PDFs, for instance, can be any size, and even the same content in PDFs can vary hugely in filesize just depending on which PDF generator is used. High-res astronomy photos that enthusiasts might need or care to share with friends, etc. Tor could legitimately be used for downloading medical case histories of some embarrassing medical condition that only affects 43 people around the world, and isn't popular enough to be on P2P, for instance.

The web has large files. Tor is built on the assumption that people are entitled to access the web anonymously. Therefore, Tor must be able to access large files. Simple really.

Re:Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking? (1)

BenEnglishAtHome (449670) | about 5 years ago | (#28680793)

You shouldn't assume I mean p2p because I don't. There are plenty of file servers out there set up to be accessible via Tor. Some have mp3s, some have movies. Some have plans for overthrowing the government or blowing up the world. I've never used p2p over Tor. I have, however, tried to download files ranging from a meg to a gig in size with varying degrees of success. I've never, despite trying at all hours of the day and on all days of the week, been able to complete the download of a 1-gig file over Tor. The process usually breaks somewhere under 100 megs. I've found my attempts to download much smaller files to be less than confidence-inspiring, with anything over 5 megs as likely as not to fail.

I guess I should start investigating software that manages and resumes downloads more intelligently than what's built into my current tools - which is simply Ubuntu, Firefox, and the DownThemAll add-on.

But, seriously, I know that Tor wasn't built around the idea of moving large files. My original post was half-meant as a joke. I'm surprised to see all this discussion over a throwaway comment.

Re:Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking? (1)

jd (1658) | about 5 years ago | (#28679475)

Until Linux and the *BSDs have DTN as standard, you're not likely to see anything serious using it. DTN could be seriously useful in a lot of circumstances, but look at the hassle getting multicasting or IPv6 - and these are protocols that have long been supported both in ISPs routers and the OS' in people's homes.

Define "permanent" (5, Informative)

qengho (54305) | about 5 years ago | (#28674613)

It'll be permanent until the ISS is de-orbited in 2016, [washingtonpost.com] eh?

Don't slashdot that server.... (2, Funny)

drachenfyre (550754) | about 5 years ago | (#28674621)

The consequences might be a little rough.

That's not news. THIS is news! (0, Offtopic)

cosanostradamus (1553391) | about 5 years ago | (#28674627)

. I'm already on it. Look, here's the latest news from Uranus: Bruno & Senile Mice. [blogspot.com] .

Porn (0)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | about 5 years ago | (#28674659)

So, how's going to set the record for sending the first pornography packet into outer space?

Traffic capacity? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28674663)

I would be interested in reading some specifications about what traffic capacity this node has.

Hey, astronauts gets lonely, too! (1)

adosch (1397357) | about 5 years ago | (#28674739)

pr0n from space! The *new* frontier!

permanent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28674745)

for various values of permanent.

We need a name change soon. (1)

Deus.1.01 (946808) | about 5 years ago | (#28674757)

We can't be calling it the "Internet" anymore.

What about spacenet, galaxynet, solnet?

Re:We need a name change soon. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28675265)

Skynet?

Can't wait... (1, Redundant)

Trashman (3003) | about 5 years ago | (#28674763)

... to FTP to Mars.

PATCH TUESDAY patch or BURN !!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28674769)

It's time to patch my little pretties.

As Jerry Seinfeld would say (2, Funny)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | about 5 years ago | (#28674777)

They named the spacecraft "Deep Impact" ...Who's the rocket scientist who came up with that one?

God DAMNIT! (1)

Deus.1.01 (946808) | about 5 years ago | (#28674793)

So when the aliens attack then we have just given them the entire intel of the whole god damn planet....plus our porn.

Legislation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28674813)

Seriously, there will be a lot of discussion. Look at all the legislation involved. Since it is on ISS which law will apply for hosted data?

Do we really need the Internet on the ISS? (2, Insightful)

defireman (1365467) | about 5 years ago | (#28674819)

If experience on Slashdot has taught me anything, having the Internet on ISS is a bad idea. The astronauts will spend half the time surfing the Internet instead of running 'scientific experiments'.

.. or downloading the latest Michael Jackson DVDs for a hands on tutorial of the 'Moonwalk'.

Re:Do we really need the Internet on the ISS? (1)

bertoelcon (1557907) | about 5 years ago | (#28677779)

Moonwalk would require gravity, so we need to go back to the moon or modify it too a "marswalk"

Internet in the space... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28674855)

Means the astronauts can now access porn?

First impressions. (1)

bigbluemachine (1194379) | about 5 years ago | (#28674865)

Has anyone taken into account the sheer volume of pron that takes up the vast majority of the internet and what kind of impression that will leave on impressionable alien children as they zoom by our wee rock? Not to mention all of the middle aged aliens seeing our internet and thinking that if were they to land that it would be one giant non stop orgy filled with only the prettiest people,mountains of blow,and lots and lots of latex.

Re:First impressions. (1)

MadnessASAP (1052274) | about 5 years ago | (#28675475)

Have you seen Ron Jeremy? Pretty aint exactly a word I've heard used to describe him.

Serious Lag times (1)

EdgeyEdgey (1172665) | about 5 years ago | (#28674905)

Not to be used for Counterstrike.

Last Post (4, Funny)

PotatoFiend (1330299) | about 5 years ago | (#28675027)

Sorry, posting this from ISS.

Al Gore (0, Offtopic)

palmerj3 (900866) | about 5 years ago | (#28675043)

I bet Al Gore had nothing at all to do with this.

What protocols is it using? (3, Interesting)

scubamage (727538) | about 5 years ago | (#28675067)

Ok, dorky question, but what protocols is it using? I mean, how does it make up for the sometimes massive EMD that will be in the way occasionally? A thunderstorm? TCP doesn't seem like it would be enough to handle the interference. Is it a microwave transmission? Are they using blinky lights? Are they using ethernet or some WAN technology? Do they use IPv6?

Re:What protocols is it using? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28675441)

it uses, of course, DTN, as the protocol. DTN sits in between IP and the other layers (UDP,TCP).. Think of it is as intelligent "store and forward" routing for long latency or sporadic links. It has a lot of flavors, but ultimately, you transfer a bundle of data to another node (perhaps on a predetermined schedule), when the other node agrees it's got it, "custody" of the bundle transfers.

The physical layer is standard microwave for space (S and K band for station, X band and Ka band for deep space links of the future). It can also be carried over wired media (or heck, avian carriers as well)

Re:What protocols is it using? (1)

scubamage (727538) | about 5 years ago | (#28675593)

You rock anon :) Thanks! I found the other article had some info but it didn't seem to explain much (kept swapping around terms so I didn't know how correct it was, or if it was all still theoretical at time of publishing) and it didn't really indicate that DTN works in between layers 3 and 4. Sounds like it'll be some cool technology.

Re:What protocols is it using? (3, Informative)

scubamage (727538) | about 5 years ago | (#28675673)

Also, despite the bad form of replying to myself, I found the RFC's specifying the protocols here: RFC 4838 (DTN) [ietf.org] and RFC 5050 [ietf.org] .

Re:What protocols is it using? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28676723)

FTFS:

The network is based on a new communications protocol called Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking (DTN).

As for IPv, or transmission medium, maybe look at the FA?

What? (1, Insightful)

ledow (319597) | about 5 years ago | (#28675113)

Sorry, I don't see how this technology and "using the Internet" are at all related.

It's a store-and-forward technology designed to allow interruptions of seconds, days, weeks, months, etc. in communication. How does that relate to the modern Internet or being able to "post on Twitter"? What you're saying is that I can request a webpage and (via suitable protocol-translation at some gateway presumably back on Earth) eventually my request will be sent - TCP handshaking is out of the window, timeouts will defeat login attempts, etc. What this actually *might* be is a very, very delay-tolerant email setup... we have one of those... it's called "retry and exponential backoff". This assumes *so* much it's unbelievable and basically tries to plant real-time TCP web traffic in the same category as "send this message to Earth, I don't care when it arrives".

Are the public seriously that stupid that even this mildly technical article has to be related to Twitter in order for people to understand it (erroneously)?

Re:What? (1)

CrashandDie (1114135) | about 5 years ago | (#28675913)

Asynchronous requests aren't that difficult to implement. Most XML-based request-response languages (SOAP, SPML, SAML) have at least a notion of asynch transmission.

Worried about privacy? Just PKI encrypt + sign the whole request so you know where it came from, and who it is destined to, and you don't need the age old "sessions" anymore. Sessions only make sense in a system that relies on synchronous communications.

Now of course, we can't ensure delivery, but then again, I don't see how that would be part of the requirements when you've got aliens eating your crew, and computers refusing to open the latch.

Re:What? (1)

John Hasler (414242) | about 5 years ago | (#28675977)

> What this actually *might* be is a very, very delay-tolerant email setup... we have one
> of those... it's called "retry and exponential backoff".

It's called UUCP.

Re:What? (1)

ae1294 (1547521) | about 5 years ago | (#28677155)

Sounds like FIDO.NET for outer space.

Think of it... (1)

jd (1658) | about 5 years ago | (#28679505)

...like FTP-by-email, but for any Internet protocol, not just FTP.

This... (1)

Braintrust (449843) | about 5 years ago | (#28675159)

... will allow Goatse to spread even further...

Re:This... (0, Flamebait)

Barny (103770) | about 5 years ago | (#28675485)

Link plz! :P

DTN is ok, I've been testing it for a year now... (1)

BlueScreenOfTOM (939766) | about 5 years ago | (#28675201)

I'm pretty sure that MDU Communications [mduc.com] has volunteered our condo building to test DTN for the last year or so. I guess they figure since they have an exclusive contract with our building and we don't have any other choice of ISP (besides dial-up and capped 3G cellular), we'd be perfect. I can report that Slashdot is working this morning, although Google is not. Maybe once the system is deployed to ISS, they'll stop injecting delays and disruptions!

ping times (1)

hotmultimedia (1592735) | about 5 years ago | (#28675229)

i wonder how long it takes to get a ping reply from outer space.

Boon to astronauts (1)

owlstead (636356) | about 5 years ago | (#28675303)

Astronauts finally don't have to use that shaky GPRS on their iPhones. I've heard the reception is really bad over there.

Cool protocol.. but sounds a bit familiar... (1)

luckytroll (68214) | about 5 years ago | (#28675413)

I liked the idea, and went on to read more about the protocol.
I can definitely see some uses for this on earth.

One example would be on cruising sailboats that only have occasional access to inexpensive wifi hotspots, and the rest of the time have to use slow SSB links. Another
example might be for use in automotive networking, where a car sometimes has access to a real network, sometimes a cellular, and sometimes just some low-fi sattelite.

But really, this all sounds eerily familiar. Could if be FidoNet and UUCP in space?

I still want to see it implemented in the next Linux kernel though.

Re:Cool protocol.. but sounds a bit familiar... (1)

John Hasler (414242) | about 5 years ago | (#28676033)

> I still want to see it implemented in the next Linux kernel though.

This does not belong in the kernel.

Re:Cool protocol.. but sounds a bit familiar... (2, Insightful)

ae1294 (1547521) | about 5 years ago | (#28677223)

This does not belong in the kernel.

Have you looked at the .config file lately? THERE is A LOT that shouldn't be in the kernel..

Re:Cool protocol.. but sounds a bit familiar... (2, Interesting)

jd (1658) | about 5 years ago | (#28679695)

Given that DTN sits between two layers already in the kernel, it'd be stupid to have DTN in userspace. (Stupid and potentially dangerous, as you then have a userspace app injecting data into a fairly low level part of the kernel in a way that would have to bypass a lot of safeguards.)

As for stuff that's in the kernel that shouldn't be - want to give some examples? I can think of a few things that are probably not great, but I can't think of anything that absolutely shouldn't be there.

Say what?! (1)

jd (1658) | about 5 years ago | (#28679633)

It sits between the Ethernet and TCP/UDP layers. Where the hell do you think it's going to sit? On top of the monitor? The only way you could add DTN except in the kernel is via netfilter (which would make this not only Linux-specific but also firewall technology specific, as netfilter is being replaced).

Adding DTN in userspace via netfilter would (a) add some very stupid and unnecessary context switches, and (b) totally subvert the purpose for which netfilter is designed, not for technical reasons but political ones.

But there's nowhere else you can put it, if you want to run DTN in userspace. Which means you either have a totally stupid, farcical solution OR a kernel implementation.

Take your pick.

Re:Cool protocol.. but sounds a bit familiar... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28678531)

One example would be on cruising sailboats that only have occasional access to inexpensive wifi hotspots, and the rest of the time have to use slow SSB links.

Exactly what I was thinking when I read this.

pornz... in... space... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28675437)

pornz... in... space...

I thought... (1)

Relic of the Future (118669) | about 5 years ago | (#28675511)

I thought the "big deal" with NASA's new protocol was that it could handle the overly-long round trip times (stupid speed of light and vast interplanetary distances!) that would make TCP unusable. I suppose that's what the store-and-forward process is suppose to get around (among other things), but the article doesn't make that particularly clear.

Re:I thought... (2, Informative)

jandrese (485) | about 5 years ago | (#28675607)

A single DTN node is not terribly useful, where you see advantages is when you have multiple lossy or intermittent links along the path. In this case, TCP will perform very poorly as it can only even try to push data on the cases where all of the links are up and will suffer a lot from TCP's slow start.

Think of it like a game of Frogger: TCP only knows how to play by waiting until all of the cars and logs are line up just right so it can jump all of the way across at once. DTN plays like a human player, one step at a time while it's safe and then waiting for it to become safe for the next step.

One of the interesting aspects of DTN is that it is transport layer agnostic. This means the very same bundle can be sent over TCP, then SCPS, then USB key or whatever and the applications never have to deal with it. The applications only have to speak DTN. There are local Daemons in the network that choose the most optimal transport protocol for whatever the next hop is, and then send the bundle over that.

Re:I thought... (1)

jd (1658) | about 5 years ago | (#28679939)

This makes it great for wireless networks in which routes are highly variable or not otherwise knowable in advance. Routing protocols [psu.edu] already exist for such indeterminate networks [psu.edu] , but if the protocol you're transmitting has too short a timeout, it's useless. You'd lose far too many packets and never get any work done.

So, for such networks, you'd need DTN. DTN would also be useful when using Mobile IP, where the two networks you're crossing between have a gap between them, so there isn't 100% coverage. Then, your connection can survive the transition, even though you don't have actual connectivity for all of that time.

In Space.... (1)

Stenchwarrior (1335051) | about 5 years ago | (#28675589)

...no one can hear you get fragged.

(To you /.er's that love to correct people: I know there will be latency issues....shut up.)

iGalactic Internet (1)

FreakyGreenLeaky (1536953) | about 5 years ago | (#28675615)

Thank God they didn't pull a Branson on themselves and call it "InterGalactic Internet" or some such nonsense.

Not That Permanent (1)

TiberSeptm (889423) | about 5 years ago | (#28675647)

Obviously this isn't THAT permanent since it's being de-orbited in 2016.

In space... (1)

Hanners1979 (959741) | about 5 years ago | (#28675795)

In space, no-one can hear you get Rickrolled...

Most important question: (1)

uvsc_wolverine (692513) | about 5 years ago | (#28675959)

Will colonists on Jupiter's moons (except for Europa of course) be able to play WoW? That 17 minute latency would be a real game killer.

Vint (1)

jc42 (318812) | about 5 years ago | (#28676003)

If Vint Cerf is the 'father of the Internet', I wonder who the mother is ...

J.C.R. Licklider is the father of the Internet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28680743)

Actually, J.C.R. Licklider [wikipedia.org] coined the term "Intergalactic Computer Network" [wikipedia.org] in a series of memos 1962, culminating in a paper outlining the ideas for Internet in a research paper co-written with Robert Taylor [wikipedia.org] .

  Dr. Lawrence G. Roberts [wikipedia.org] created the blueprint of the architecture for the Internet, and then solicited proposals for its implementation. One of the proposals came from packet switching pioneer Dr. Leonard Kleinrock [wikipedia.org] , who had a graduate student name Vint Cerf. The first nodes of the ArpaNet (which became known as the Internet) communicated with each other in 1969 (the year before Cerf got his master's degree), wherein a message was sent from the node at Doug Engelbart [wikipedia.org] 's lab to the node at Kleirock's. In 1970, Bolt, Beranek and Newman (a.k.a BBN) in Massachusetts was the first East Coast node; working at BBN was Bob Kahn, who later collaborated with Cerf to create TCP/IP.

This article excerpt from Business Week explains more:

Title: "Larry Roberts: He Made The Net Work - He persuaded scientists to share their computers"
Publisher: Business Week
Date: September 27, 2004
Link: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_39/b3901030_mz072.htm

A half-dozen individuals have been hailed as father of the Internet. Scores of others also had a hand in birthing this network. But the person who sifted through the contending technologies and drew up the blueprint for a networking infrastructure -- then actually made it work -- was Lawrence G. Roberts.

Roberts' baby was ARPAnet, the Internet's predecessor. But he never laid claim to the original idea. The Net's inspirational father was J.C.R. Licklider (1915-90), a psychologist at Massachusetts Institute of Technology who outlined his dream of a Galactic Network in the early 1960s. Then, during a stint at the Pentagon's Advanced Research Projects Agency, or ARPA (now DARPA), "Lick" pretty much described today's Net.

At a fateful meeting with Lick in 1964, Roberts became a disciple. Still, when ARPA attempted to recruit him to oversee the network project, Roberts held back, worried that the administrative duties would be boring. Finally, in December, 1966, at age 29, he acquiesced. The next year, Roberts outlined his networking scheme at conferences and meetings with researchers. Scientists often resisted his call to share their computers, which were rare and expensive resources back then. But ARPA held the purse strings for much of their funding, so Roberts was hard to resist.

ARPAnet's key building blocks came from such researchers as Leonard Kleinrock and Paul Baran in the U.S. and Donald W. Davies in Britain. Each devised an approach to "packet switching," which solves bandwidth constraints by slicing transmissions into small packets and shooting them over the same wires. To develop a network-control protocol that would impose some order on packet switching's intentional chaos, Roberts relied on Vinton G. Cerf and Robert E. Kahn. In the late 1970s they refined this into TCP/IP, or Transmission-Control Protocol/Internet Protocol, the technology still in use today.

The call to build ARPAnet's first hardware went out in 1968. It triggered a flood of proposals that stacked up almost seven feet high and taxed even Roberts' speed-reading skills -- 2,400 words per minute. Roberts selected Bolt, Beranek & Newman (BBN) to build the first network switches. The initial units went to Kleinrock at the University of California at Los Angeles and Douglas C. Engelbart at Stanford Research Institute in 1969. BBN got the first East Coast "node" in 1970. After BBN's Ray Tomlinson wrote an e-mail program in 1971, scientists began flocking to the Net.

interesting browsing experience (1)

keeboo (724305) | about 5 years ago | (#28676069)

$ wget http://blah.com.mars/ [com.mars]
Error: Connection timed out.

20 minutes later...
TCP packet from blah.com.mars just arrived.

WoW (1)

SEWilco (27983) | about 5 years ago | (#28676229)

Worlds of Warcraft.

Fr1st? psot?! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28676281)

ca5 e you want to

Uhh.. satellite tv? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28676455)

Surely this isn't much better / worse than satellite tv?

From a ground station to a few geo-sync satellites then to ... a wifi AP? if tv can go from ground to sky to ground - and phone calls can do the same without great latency, then pushing data to and from a geo sync satellite and then to / from a space station isnt very difficult??

RIAA in SPAAAACE (1)

CompMD (522020) | about 5 years ago | (#28676549)

1) Give astronaut CD of latest pop music craze.
2) Have astronaut rip CD to MP3.
3) Create and host torrent of album from ISS.
4) Make RIAA go to orbit to subpoena astronaut.
5) ???
6) Profit!

This might actually help us get a real commercial space program going.

Ob. comment (1)

zorro-z (1423959) | about 5 years ago | (#28677273)

All your space stations are belong to us.

-Z

Email Account (1)

imscarr (246204) | about 5 years ago | (#28677653)

Can I get an email account on their server? Maybe imscarr@iss.et ?

Sounds a lot like... (1)

Foozy (552529) | about 5 years ago | (#28678041)

UUCP - the store and forward network of the 20th century. Will be interesting to see if they come up with alternative naming, and whether Harri's Lament still holds- "All the good ones are taken!"

New hardware, old concept. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#28679367)

While this specific hardware is new -- It has been my impression that IP has already been used on the deep space network (DSN) for years already.

Old is new again (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about 5 years ago | (#28680779)

I'm so old I remember being taught algorithms for ancient reel-to-reel computers (think background of stuff in the '60s TV show Lost in Space) for merging, sorting, and so on, giant databases based when having access to 1, 2, or 3 reels and a severely limited amount of RAM. Efficient in that context can be way different from the modern World of Plenty programming.

Six hundred years ago, I once made a joke somewhere about how bad the lag would be playing a game of Quake intercontinentally using courierred tape reels.

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