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Bill Gates Puts Classic Feynman Lectures Online

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the surely-you're-joking dept.

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theodp writes "Okay Tux fans, let's see how badly you want to see Feynman's Messenger Lectures on Physics. Bill Gates has the goods over at Microsoft Research's Project Tuva site. Also, CNET's Ina Fried has an interesting interview with Gates. He goes into why he spent his own money to make a series of classic physics lectures available free on the Web, talks about the possibility of Project Natal bringing gesture recognition to Windows, gives his thoughts on Google's Chrome OS, and discusses plans to patent 'cows that don't fart.' The last is a joke. I think."

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This is so exciting! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705295)

This is fantastic--Bill Gates has finally come around to supporting Linux, even in a non-technical way. This is so important to the history of our operating system. Time to boot up 2.6.36, load iTunes via WINE, and listen away!

gesture recognition (3, Funny)

neonprimetime (528653) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705331)

Microsoft doesn't just want to bring gesture recognition to the Xbox with Project Natal. It also wants the technology in Windows, according to a very good source--Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates.

Here's what I want ... if I flick off my windows pc, it will automatically hit ctrl-alt-delete. That would allow me to release stress, and save me a few keyboard clicks.

Re:gesture recognition (5, Funny)

SterlingSylver (1122973) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705425)

Maybe it could learn to recognize someone throwing up their hands in disgust and slamming their fists on the desk...

Clippy: You appear to be royally pissed off at your computer. Would you like me to search for some humorous kitten videos on Bing?

Re:gesture recognition (3, Funny)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705593)

Just put a brick through the monitor and kick the tower over. Much better stress reliever, plus it gives you an excuse to buy a Mac.

Re:gesture recognition (5, Funny)

vux984 (928602) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706101)

Yup. Crash Different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTqmFNTNgsU [youtube.com]

Re:gesture recognition (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28706271)

that was hilarious. thanks for sharing.

Re:gesture recognition (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28706123)

The excuse I would need to buy a Mac would be something along the lines of "I have suffered severe brain damage, and therefore need to buy a computer for stupids."

Clearly you don't play online poker (1)

Petersko (564140) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705653)

"Here's what I want ... if I flick off my windows pc, it will automatically hit ctrl-alt-delete. That would allow me to release stress, and save me a few keyboard clicks."

There are many reasons I would (assuming "flip"?) flick off my Windows pc - and MANY reasons why I would flick off my linux PC - for reasons that have nothing to do with an O/S failure. That wouldn't be practical.

Re:gesture recognition (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705695)

Guess the most easily reached UI element of XP Mode under Windows 7 which is basically hand crafted Virtual PC?

a button saying "ctrl-alt-delete" is right at its toolbar. Believe or not.

Re:gesture recognition (-1, Troll)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705935)

Bill Gates sure does seem to spend a lot of time talking to this tranny...

I know why. (5, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705333)

He goes into why he spent his own money to make a series of classic physics lectures available free on the Web

That's easy. It's a good way to lure technically minded people into installing Silverlight. No sale here Gates, I'll wait until it's available by torrent.

Then Use Moonlight Instead (4, Informative)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705473)

He goes into why he spent his own money to make a series of classic physics lectures available free on the Web

That's easy. It's a good way to lure technically minded people into installing Silverlight. No sale here Gates, I'll wait until it's available by torrent.

For the technically literate, Moonlight is open source. You should try it out [go-mono.com] to view these. Word of warning, it uses some of the same protocols so if you're concerned about violating Microsoft's copyright, better to avoid it. They are listed under the community promise now but you never know. And if you're RMS, you're probably going to rip this post apart.

Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead (5, Insightful)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705511)

You don`t have to be RMS to reject Microsoft`s "me too" technologies cloned by their clowns.

Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead (3, Insightful)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705559)

Isn't Linux "me too" tech too?

Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead (1, Informative)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705629)

I don`t care, I use UNIX 03 aka OS X. Only good thing coming from MS are fonts which they purchased exclusive rights and Apple licensed them for me so I paid for them. No shadowy agreements etc.

Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705637)

Isn't all tech "me too" tech of previous tech?

Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead (2, Insightful)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705869)

Actually, no, it isn't. There was no GPL'd kernel for GNU before Linux came.

Re:Then Use Moonlight Instead (0, Troll)

metus (89675) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706059)

What's wrong with offering content for free as an incentive to push your tech?

Flash needs to be taken out back and shot anyways.

Read thinking machines instead (4, Insightful)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705583)

What about some great reading in HTML instead? It tells about where the real IT World was while MS was monkeying with some clone of CP/M

http://www.longnow.org/views/essays/articles/ArtFeynman.php [longnow.org]

BTW, dear BillG: There is something called archive.org if you want to donate something to technical community. They offer standard MPEG and OGG files and Flash, which is current de-facto standard can stream them embedded if one is in hurry. Your attempt to kill Flash has failed, fire that team and target something else.

Re:I know why. (2, Insightful)

SpectreBlofeld (886224) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705591)

Ah well, you're missing out. I watched two lectures last night and was impressed (my first silverlight experience). I use my cell phone as a modem and thus don't get a create connection speed, and watching videos usually requires me to buffer for some time... the lectures played fine and in decent quality. What impressed me, though, were the closed captions that were displayed below the video window.

Why the knee-jerk reactions to Silverlight? Is it because it doesn't have full Linux support yet? By that regard, by cell phone sucks, my vid card sucks, etc.

Re:I know why. (1, Insightful)

jack2000 (1178961) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705661)

Astroturf much? Yes they do suck, as any tech literate person can tell you even an 8bit microcontroller can run linux. Now take your closedsource software and go away!

Re:I know why. (4, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705731)

Why the knee-jerk reactions to Silverlight?

It's yet another attack vector. I already have a video player on my system, and Silverlight offers me nothing that I can't do without it. It does however potentially contain vulnerabilities that could compromise my system.

Re:I know why. (5, Insightful)

mr crypto (229724) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705761)

Because requiring Silverlight (and therefore Windows) severely dilutes the notion that Gate's action is altruistic. The content is only kinda free.

Re:I know why. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705861)

No one was claiming this was "free as in freedom" or whatever nonsense you open sores fucks whine about. These are provided for "free" as in "no cost".

Re:I know why. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705881)

Because requiring Silverlight (and therefore Windows) severely dilutes the notion that Gate's action is altruistic. The content is only kinda free.

Wrong. Choose to use it or not as you wish but dont spread incorrect information.

Silverlight for Mac-> download [microsoft.com]

And of course you can choose the Mono implementation if you want FOSS versions instead
Mono-> download [mono-project.com]

Re:I know why. (2, Insightful)

jejones (115979) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706065)

Um, wait. Mono is said to be a free as in speech implementation of C#, but aren't the codecs, which are what really matters for watching video, still proprietary? (Not a rhetorical question; I'd really like to know.)

Re:I know why. (2, Insightful)

Elektroschock (659467) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706175)

The problem with Microsoft is that they gave a 50% community promise, expect the next 50% to come soon. In three years Intellectual Ventures, their patent troll could sent you a letter...

Re:I know why. (4, Informative)

Mr2cents (323101) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706151)

I saw 4 feynman lectures put online here [vega.org.uk] , he became my hero instantly. He was a great man.

Re:I know why. (2, Insightful)

_Sprocket_ (42527) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706303)

Why the knee-jerk reactions to Silverlight?

It might have something to do with the knee-jerk reactions to Linux from Microsoft's CEO. When one starts rattling sabers, it's not entirely unfair to think that there might be a willingness to follow through.

Re:I know why. (1)

digitig (1056110) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705795)

That's easy. It's a good way to lure technically minded people into installing Silverlight.

Yes -- it would save me the walk over to the bookshelf to get the dead-tree version.

No joke (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705337)

Cows that fart less methane would be a *huge* boon to global warming.

Re:No joke (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705647)

The fact that is isn't real is the joke. Kind of like Gates' operating system.

Sorry, I'm having a real bad day today.

Not installing silverlight (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705357)

While the lectures would be nice to see (I already have the audio of them) - I'm not willing to infest my PC with $ilverlight to do so... Thanks anyway Bill

FIRST POST! WOOT!

Re:Not installing silverlight (2, Informative)

AndrewBuck (1120597) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705557)

I wrestled with the idea for a minute or two and decided I would bite the bullet and take silverlight if I get to see the Feynman (I have been trying to find these videos for a long time, the DVD's are something like $800 if I remember correctly). However when I click the install thing I get "Sorry, your browser is not compatible".

I thought silverlight was supposed to be microsoft's answer to flash but I guess it will never be more than a curiosity/minor annoyance if they can't even be bothered to support firefox. Oh well, as someone above pointed out, torrents are undoubtedly on the way so I'll just have to wait a bit more.

-Buck

Re:Not installing silverlight (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705977)

Firefox is supported, you might have to manually install Silverlight first.

Re:Not installing silverlight (1)

Dotren (1449427) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705983)

I thought silverlight was supposed to be microsoft's answer to flash but I guess it will never be more than a curiosity/minor annoyance if they can't even be bothered to support firefox. Oh well, as someone above pointed out, torrents are undoubtedly on the way so I'll just have to wait a bit more.

-Buck

I'm running the latest release version of Firefox with Silverlight 3 installed and it seems to be loading fine. I did, however, get that message with Chrome (I'm not too surprised, Silverlight 2 kinda worked and kinda didn't when Chrome released and it took them a while to get it going.. I'm not sure if it was ever as seamless as it was on IE or Firefox).

Make sure Silverlight and Firefox are both up-to-date. I haven't gotten into the video lectures yet but I must say, they're making improvements on their video player designs and the overall site feels responsive and sharp.

Could it have been done in Flash? I'm sure it could. Then again, it could probably have been done in HTML 5 too...

Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI (5, Interesting)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705363)

Ballmer and Gates also echoed the note Business Division President Stephen Elop sounded in an interview with CNET News last week--that Microsoft really doesn't know what Chrome OS will look like.

"Who knows what this thing is?" Ballmer said.

It's the Linux kernel with a new UI. Probably will have some other beefed up parts (security or graphics) along with better hardware support on select devices as they throw their weight around. Judging by the name, it will most likely have a windowing look a lot like the browser [pcworld.com] . Could be different but I'll bet they build it with real estate in mind like the Chrome browser for netbooks.

I'm also guessing that you know a hell of a lot more about Chrome OS than many of Google's own employees as you've never been entirely stupid when it comes to keeping tabs on your enemies. So either you're letting your own personal ego get in the way of your business sense while underestimating Google or you are asking a rhetorical question to spread uncertainty of what Chrome OS could be. Either way it's pretty childish. I may not know exactly what Chrome OS is but I definitely know what Windows Vista is and I do not want.

Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI (1)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705497)

I agree. He should have said "it took us a long time to secure Windows, who knows what security flaws Chrome OS 1.0 will have"

Paypal my fee to the usual account Mr Ballmer.

Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706055)

It wouldn`t take too much time if they relied on a 40 year old way of doing things instead of re-inventing wheel.

It is like attempting to re-invent door lock and failing over and over while people happily use their thousands years old "old technology" which was tested to the limit.

Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705613)

I'm guessing something like tinycore [tinycorelinux.com] where most of the os is actually non writable.

Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI (1)

Jim Hall (2985) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705659)

>> Ballmer and Gates also echoed the note Business Division President Stephen Elop sounded in an interview with CNET News last week--that Microsoft really doesn't know what Chrome OS will look like. "Who knows what this thing is?" Ballmer said.

> It's the Linux kernel with a new UI. Probably will have some other beefed up parts (security or graphics) along with better hardware support on select devices as they throw their weight around.

Maybe Ballmer just sucks at explaining things? [xkcd.com]

:-)

Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI (1, Insightful)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705729)

Either way it's pretty childish

No more childish than requiring Silverlight to read some lectures. No more childish than Windows. No more childish than Microsoft's advertising. No more childish than Ballmer's chair throwing and his "DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!"

"Childish" is par for the course with Microsoft.

What if it is really only new UI? (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705819)

OS X is NeXT/BSD Lite/Carbon/FreeBSD with a new UI and collection of frameworks. That almost schizoid mix of things is being chosen instead of Windows by 70 year old ladies because it is easier to use!

One gotta be afraid of "new UI" things especially when they are released by some company almost same size as them. Funny thing is, Google can lose billions with no harm (just like MS silverlight) and say "oh well, it didn`t work" and continue their regular business. In fact they don`t even have to cancel it as it will be open source.

Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI (2, Insightful)

avandesande (143899) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705831)

//It's the Linux kernel with a new UI.//

You seem to be suggesting that a new interface for linux is passe- but look at what Apple did with BSD.

Re:Chrome OS is Linux with a New UI (1)

SterlingSylver (1122973) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705863)

I'm also guessing that you know a hell of a lot more about Chrome OS than many of Google's own employees as you've never been entirely stupid when it comes to keeping tabs on your enemies. So either you're letting your own personal ego get in the way of your business sense while underestimating Google or you are asking a rhetorical question to spread uncertainty of what Chrome OS could be.

I'm not so sure that we can call FUD on this statement. I mean, at this point Chrome OS does seem like a fairly vague concept. Linux-based OS designed for cloud computing...maybe...and even then what would that mean? "Who knows what this thing is?" is a reasonable statement. Yeah it's Steve Balmer so you don't expect him to be a big supporter of the OS, but I'd expect that MS, Slashdot, and the internet in general will be spilling a lot of digital ink finding out what this thing is over the next 6-24 months.

Then after a reasonable 2-3 year beta period we'll be able to make an educated statement.

Chrome is already a failure because it will be OSS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705925)

Chrome is OPEN SOURCE, so it will fail. Nothing that is open source has ever been able to compete effectively with the closed source counterparts. I know I will be moderated down into oblivion for stating this, but there it is.

Re:Chrome is already a failure because it will be (1)

bberens (965711) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706199)

Apache is win. Netflix confirms it!

Just a question... (1, Troll)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705931)

...how did you come up with all this conclusions? Because from what I imagine to be most likely, you know close to nothing about Bill Gates's thoughts, Microsoft internals, Google internals, etc. So I can only guess you have no idea what you are talking about and in typical pundit fashion, pull things out of your ass, that support your p.o.v.

I really hope I am totally wrong with my guesses, and that you have some special insight. But if, then why did you not base your arguments on it by stating it?
So correct me if I'm wrong, and I will thank you for having learned something.

But if I am right, please just shut up. :)

Beginning of gOS FUD (1)

copponex (13876) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706041)

He's just laying the groundwork for their coming marketing campaign, centered around "trust" and "stability" messages to soothe the Windows 7 buying soul. It will probably work on the older baby boomers, but everyone else will yawn and go back to tooling around on Facebook and watching Hulu, on whatever operating system they like.

If Google creates a framework where you can locally host Google Apps that automatically sync with low horsepower terminals connected to the local network, Microsoft will be in a world of hurt. Once all you need is a browser to connect to a majority of the company resources, the support staff costs will fall by 50%. Buy a pallet of Core 2 machines, spend some decent money up front on the server, and keep some fresh spare machines to switch out for hardware failure. That setup could last for a decade.

How badly do I want to see it? (1)

gzearfoss (829360) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705465)

Honestly, not badly enough to want to install Silverlight on my PC.
I'm not planning on installing it until A) I need it to access critical websites (that is, critical by my definition - sites for my bank and credit cards, for example) and B) the Flashblock plugin will treat Silverlight on webpages like it does Flash.

Re:How badly do I want to see it? (4, Insightful)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706023)

If your bank requires Silverlight while 98% of Planet has Flash installed, they are desperate for MS money or donation of servers which is not a good thing for banks. It also means there is some MS technology involved in process as opposed to AIX/UNIX/zOS which are "rolls royce" of servers and chosen by banks who prefers reliability to price.

Same goes for anyone "subscribing" to media outlets for a long time which requires Silverlight . It probably means they are easily bought out.

Silverlight? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705471)

eat a dick.

My Gesture To Windows: (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705481)

FU

Wow, hardhitting stuff (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705505)

does he also reminisce about how 640K will be enough for anyone?

patent 'cows that don't fart' not a joke? (1)

with a 'c' (1260048) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705507)

With Bill's patent for stopping hurricanes why is a patent for cows that don't fart a joke? http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/One_force_of_nature_vs_another_Bill_Gates_wants_to_stop_hurricanes_50385622.html [techflash.com]

Re:patent 'cows that don't fart' not a joke? (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706005)

Cows that don't fart (or at least not fart as much) is possibly feasable. Stopping hurricanes isn't by any stretch.

Only skimmed it, but... (1, Insightful)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705517)

... the interview was actually somewhat interesting. I have to say that, whatever I think about MS, Gates is a pretty interesting guy... and appears to be pretty smart and "well rounded. IMO, he made a pretty insightful (mod him +1 ;) ) comment about Google... the more vague it is, the more interesting it is.

Meh. I didn't like Vista, and kinda like 7 so far. Some MS products are cool. Some are awful. But I do have to say that Gates doesn't usually appear to be a stupid little upstart that got lucky or something like that.

Re:Only skimmed it, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705651)

... the interview was actually somewhat interesting. I have to say that, whatever I think about MS, Gates is a pretty interesting guy... and appears to be pretty smart

..yep a real cool guy, and doesn't afraid of anything.

Re:Only skimmed it, but... (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705809)

Some MS products are cool.

I wouldn't say it's "cool", but I like Excel better than any other spreadsheet I've tried. Their mouse is pretty good, and my daughter (who works at Gamestop) likes her X-box.

Some are awful.

Yes, about every other MS product I've had the displeasure to use, including some (e.g. FoxPro) that I use to love that MS ganked up to utter unuseability.

But I do have to say that Gates doesn't usually appear to be a stupid little upstart that got lucky or something like that.

He's not stupid by any means, but he DID get lucky. If he wasn't the son of two IBM lawyers and the CP/M guy hadn't told IBM to go piss up a rope, your computer wouldn't be running Windows.

Re:Only skimmed it, but... (1)

teknopurge (199509) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705833)

It's every other major OS release that sucks from Microsoft. It's not an accident either.

Re:Only skimmed it, but... (1)

TheVelvetFlamebait (986083) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705893)

You can get rich while being an idiot, but that rich? He had to have some brains somewhere.

Re:Only skimmed it, but... (2, Insightful)

nine-times (778537) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706169)

But I do have to say that Gates doesn't usually appear to be a stupid little upstart that got lucky or something like that.

I don't think many people believe that Gates is stupid and merely got lucky. The criticism more likely to be leveled at him is that he got where he is more through business acumen than through producing high-quality products.

Re:Only skimmed it, but... (2, Informative)

the_womble (580291) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706329)

But I do have to say that Gates doesn't usually appear to be a stupid little upstart that got lucky or something like that.

I don't think many people believe that Gates is stupid and merely got lucky. The criticism more likely to be leveled at him is that he got where he is more through business acumen than through producing high-quality products.

But I do have to say that Gates doesn't usually appear to be a stupid little upstart that got lucky or something like that.

I don't think many people believe that Gates is stupid and merely got lucky. The criticism more likely to be leveled at him is that he got where he is more through business acumen than through producing high-quality products.

Business acumen, and through inherited money and influence: he had enough money to risk dropping out to start a business, and a few years later his business got a huge boost when they got the contract to supply DOS to IBM, the decision to award that contract being taken by a man who knew BIll Gates; mother.

He is undoubtedly smart (lots of people start by inheriting millions, very few of them turn it into billions), but he he would never have made the same amount of money if he came from an average family however smart he was.

Well I can think of one reason why... (1, Insightful)

dan_sdot (721837) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705519)

He goes into why he spent his own money to make a series of classic physics lectures available free on the Web

Well, one reason I can say for sure is that he happens to have billions of dollars in his bank account. So the cost of doing this is amounts to a rounding error in his checking account. Let's not ascribe too much a sense of moral duty to him for doing this.

When people sing the praises of the ultra-wealthy who donate a bit of money to this or that, it makes me annoyed a little bit. On the one hand, yes, it is good for them to give money to good causes. But on the other hand, they usually do not donate anything close to being something that they would actually feel. Some do, but most don't.

Generous Philanthropists (1)

Hankenstein (107201) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705817)

    Totally off the real topic but Bill Gates actually rates well in the percentage of net
worth donated. http://www.businessweek.com/pdfs/2004/0448_philan.pdf [businessweek.com]

      The above link doesn't reflect my next unsubstatiated statement but Larry Elison has
historically done very poorly at giving significant percentages of his income.

Re:Well I can think of one reason why... (4, Insightful)

metageek (466836) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705961)

however much we dislike Gates and M$, we must recognize that he is a serious philantropist and has a record on donations to charity, particularly towards serious world problems like malaria, measles, etc. That is something good I can say about him. Silverlight, on the other hand, is not :(

Re:Well I can think of one reason why... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28706001)

...they usually do not donate anything close to being something that they would actually feel.

And for a man worth billions of dollars, what bullshit arbitrary number do you propose he donate? I didn't know a donation had to hit you in the wallet for it to be of any use.

Re:Well I can think of one reason why... (4, Insightful)

nine-times (778537) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706315)

But on the other hand, they usually do not donate anything close to being something that they would actually feel. Some do, but most don't.

Well I think Bill Gates, when you add up a lot of the things he's done, has donated more than what would be a rounding error. Still, you can look at all these things in the sense that it's no more generous for Gates to give away a few billion dollars than it is courageous for Superman to jump in front of a bullet. The hurt isn't large. It's not as though Gates is going to cease to live an extremely comfortable lifestyle. What's more, you could argue that something like this is just robbing Peter to pay Paul. Gates is screwing society out of billions of dollars through underhanded business tactics, only to give back a portion of the money through charitable donations.

You can argue those things, but on the other hand, it's not always worth looking a gift horse in the mouth. He's donating more than he's required to, and doing it of his own free will. May as well be pleased about that.

Mirror, please? (2, Funny)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705549)

"Click here to download. Needs no restart".

The Goddamned site requires suilverlight. Now why would lectures need silverlight? Damn it, I just want to read the paper, not play some goofy game.

I see why Gates put these on the net, he wants more Silverlight penetration. Evil bastard will rot in hell when he dies.

Re:Mirror, please? (0, Flamebait)

MartinSchou (1360093) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705739)

I just want to read the paper

Then go and find the papers. The site has the lectures as videos. I don't know about you, but I cannot translate any kind of video format (outside of animated ASCII) in my head. Same for audio formats.

Re:Mirror, please? (2, Funny)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705981)

I don't know about you, but I cannot translate any kind of video format (outside of animated ASCII) in my head. Same for audio formats.

That's because your UID is so high. Us oldsters can do that sort of thing in our sleep.

Sheesh. Kids these days.

Re:Mirror, please? (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705745)

I wonder if I should grab the videos, repack it in a mp4 file and publish it to pirate bay as in torrent?

The only issue would be installing Silverlight and being another number in MS statistics. I don`t have tripwire on this partition too and I have no time to review .pkg.

I bet someone else who got experience in these things is already on it.

The bigger problem... (4, Insightful)

nametaken (610866) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705571)

I don't care that it's MS Research. The irritating part is that my "browser is not compatible" because I don't use silverlight.

Oh, and regarding Bill's comments on it being a bad idea for Google to have two OS's (Chrome and Android)... MS HAS MORE THAN ONE OS, DUMBSHIT! Is Gates so out of touch that he thinks that win mobiles run Vista?

but you gotta know what project tuva is (3, Insightful)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705671)

Funny is Tuva is really close to word Truva in Turkish which is basically the city of Troy. Installing some silverlight clone to be able to watch them really reminds "trojan". :)

Re:but you gotta know what project tuva is (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705727)

Tuva is a republic in Soviet Russia (now part of the Russian Federation) that Feynman always wanted to visit. A rather fitting title for hosting his lectures methinks.

Slashdotted (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705589)

Since it seems it's slashdotted alread, here's a mirror [mininova.org]

ALERT: Silverlight Trojan (4, Interesting)

Shuh (13578) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705605)

This is less about distributing knowledge and more about increasing distribution of Microsoft's video/web-technology, Silverlight .

Re:ALERT: Silverlight Trojan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705709)

omg... CONSPIRACY!!!!

A model for the world, but not for Microsoft... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705611)

To quote Gates from the article:
Gates said that he hoped his action would serve as a model for taking great educational content and making it broadly available for free.
and "...With super-high-quality material like this up there for free, I hope people see the potential, and that they'd benefit from this one in particular, and then it starts to push forward the idea if someone is great lecturer, then their work should be out there and available."
This philosophy of course does not apply to work of inferior software companies, which can charge exorbitant amounts for their software. But great lecturers'
work should be made available for free.

Truly philanthropic...Kudos!

Re:A model for the world, but not for Microsoft... (1)

SpectreBlofeld (886224) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705783)

Yeah! Feynman's getting the shaft here! Never mind the fact that he's been dead for 21 years...

won't load in firefox on linux (2, Informative)

Sir_Real (179104) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705663)

Apparently my browser is incompatible with the "web app." One wonders what standards their web is based on.

Youtube links for non-sliverlighters (5, Informative)

RyanHam (1596459) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705673)

Youtube links for non-sliverlighters
List all lectures [youtube.com]
Richard Feynman - The Relation of Mathematics & Physics [youtube.com]
Richard Feynman - The Law of Gravitation [youtube.com]
Feynman: Quantum Electrodynamics. [youtube.com]

Re:Youtube links for non-sliverlighters (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28705765)

This video has been removed due to terms of use violation.

Re:Youtube links for non-sliverlighters (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705875)

That post alone explains the reason of Silverlight and its trojan clone.

For example, not just Linux users, Symbian users can also view them as well as anything supporting Flash video. Or, they can easily change the container as it is completely documented and watch in their multimedia device.

Man Flash must be really bugging them.

Re:Youtube links for non-sliverlighters (1)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706209)

Kinda cool to learn about the dude whose name is on the building I do some work at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman#Commemorations [wikipedia.org]

The main building for the Computing Division at Fermilab, the FCC, is named in his honor: The "Feynman Computing Center".[42]

Thanks for the links!

Re:Youtube links for non-sliverlighters (2, Insightful)

rhizome (115711) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706217)

Looks like Bill couldn't give something to the world without including a self-serving requirement.

Feynman + Gates + Silverlight (2, Interesting)

rhizome (115711) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706327)

A leopard can't change its spots?

Bill Gates has a monopoly on these lectures, and he leverages that monopoly for the benefit of Silverlight. Always a self-serving monopolist, I guess.

One wonders if the rest of the world has to sign a EULA to get access to his malaria treatments.

Wonders of Physics for Everyone (1, Interesting)

StylusEater (1206014) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705703)

So Billy G wants to bring "...[the wonders of science to everyone]..." except for those of us not using Internet Explorer...ahhh...so refreshing!

It may not be a joke (1)

bickle (101226) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705791)

The bit about cows may not be a joke, as there was a similar story on Slashdot not long ago: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/06/24/1710252 [slashdot.org]

Re:It may not be a joke (2, Informative)

gubers33 (1302099) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706279)

It isn't a joke, there is really a bunch of scientist trying to genetically engineer cows that don't fart. It is actually one of the hotter topics regarding to Global Warming. Livestock are responsible for 18 percent of greenhouse gas emissions, a bigger share than that of transportation.Yes, everyone has been blaming the SUVs, but really the cows are the bigger blame.

Trying to keep an open mind... (5, Insightful)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705823)

...but this guy still makes me facepalm.

"It just shows the word browser has become a truly meaningless word," Gates said. "What's a browser? What's not a browser? If you're playing a movie, is that a browser or not a browser? If you're doing annotations, is that a browser? If you're editing text, is that a browser or not a browser? In large part, it's more an abuse of terminology than a real change."

Editing text has been part of browsing ever since HTML forms were introduced. Playing movies has been part of browsers since QuickTime and RealPlayer -- so, could easily be 10 years.

And of course, he's playing dumb about the real difference here. It seems like he's trying to suggest that it shouldn't be called a "browser", but rather, we should be talking about text editors and movie players.

No, see, the difference is whether I can just watch stuff on YouTube, edit text on Google Docs, pretty much do whatever I want on the Internet, without downloading anything other than a browser update. It means I get a fat client to some very cool services -- one that auto-updates the next time I refresh, yet one that's sufficiently sandboxed as not to be able to touch anything else in my OS.

It also means that when developing such applications, not only are they automatically cross-platform, but I can develop most of the logic as part of the server, and on the server side, I can use whatever technologies and languages I want.

And this reality is something Microsoft has been fighting since day 1, with the bastardization of web technology that is IE, so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that Gates doesn't get it. I guess I gave him the benefit of the doubt...

Ballmer and Gates also stressed the fact that Google now has two operating systems--Chrome OS and Android. Ballmer noted that Microsoft learned with the separate Windows 95 for consumers and Windows NT for businesses that having two operating systems isn't necessarily a positive thing.

*facepalm*

Ok, leaving aside the fact that you've got, what, five or six versions of Vista, and it looks as though there will be even more versions of Win7 -- just what does Gates think runs on Windows Mobile? It's not Vista, and it's not Win7.

Sure, Chrome OS and Android are closer to each other than Windows Mobile and Vista, but they're still directed at different markets -- Chrome OS is meant for netbooks, while Android was meant for mobile phones. Android runs on netbooks, but serves an entirely different purpose -- while NT and Win95 look exactly the same -- oh, and as he pointed out, Android has a browser, meaning anything Chrome OS can do, Android can do -- meaning it's more like comparing Vista Starter with Vista Ultimate, whereas NT and Win95 actually had mutually incompatible software.

Re:Trying to keep an open mind... (0, Troll)

erroneous (158367) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706281)

So when Mircosoft do something it's "bastardizing", but when it's Apple (Quicktime) or Real Player then it's "part of browsers"?

Re:Trying to keep an open mind... (1)

MrCrassic (994046) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706297)

You're not thinking on the same level.

Gates's assertion is that the ideology of a browser is being warped and abused because the technology driving it is being intermingled with the notion of being able to see and search for stuff. While this is somewhat critical with Google's approach of centralizing the browser in the OS, it's also kind of sidestepping the question.

See, in the beginning, when communication was simple and numbers were small, browsers were used to do just that --- browse the contents on the Web, and nothing else. Interaction with those contents was done behind the curtain, and changes magically appeared before you. As the complexity and usefulness of the Internet increased, people naturally felt that a one-way interaction with the Web would not be possible. Hence, the browser became more like a communicator of sorts (no, not Netscape Communicator), which is kind of what it is today.

Now, I don't think that Gates really answered the question; in fact, I think he purposefully diverted from it. The truth of the matter is that as the Internet assumes more and more responsibilities previously relegated to client-side applications, the "browser" (or whatever you want to call it) will increasingly gain central relevance. He knows (hopefully) that Microsoft will need to start investing more time in centralizing the Internet experience for its users in a way that stays consistent with their previous working model. However, they should get credit where it's due: they have been trying (albeit going in the wrong direction) since Windows 98 and the inception of Active Desktop. (Remember that? In digression, who actually makes a web page their desktop? Who ever did?)

This is one of the reasons why Google, if they actually decide to do it, can afford to essentially make the entire GUI contained in a browser (or something of sorts) and Microsoft cannot.

Browser results ... (1)

MartinSchou (1360093) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705907)

Obviously, requires you to have Silverlight installed. I'm using Windows, so I don't have a chance to try it with Moonlight. Somewhat disappointing that Moonlight isn't aimed at Windows. Could probably pick up some more users for those of us, who aren't fans of IE or Firefox

IE 8 - works (duh)
Firefox 3 - works (surprise)
Opera 9/10 - doesn't work
Chrome 2 - doesn't work
Safari 4 - doesn't work

Lecture in MKV, MPEG4? (3, Insightful)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 5 years ago | (#28705965)

The site need Silverlight to view the lectures, so one has to wonder whether Microsoft was looking for a 'killer application' to make people want to install the plug-in.

On a more optimistic note, does anyone have these lectures in MKV or MPEG4 format, or at least something using a more open format?

the virtual machine is your friend (1)

ei4anb (625481) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706019)

It installs and plays on XP in a virtual machine. That's very apt if you think about since Feynman did so much to help our understanding of virtual particles :-)

Re:the virtual machine is your friend (2, Insightful)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706257)

> It installs and plays on XP in a virtual machine.

Only if one has a copy of XP.

Fenyman Lectures at the University of Auckland (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28706043)

These are very interesting: http://vega.org.uk/video/subseries/8

They're what I thought this slashdot article was about when I read the headline.

Education begins where vocational focus ends. (4, Insightful)

MrCrassic (994046) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706099)

I think that it's great that Gates made Feynman's lectures available for free online. Now, I don't know a lot about physics, but I do know that his lectures were some of the best sources out there to learn it. In addition, there are several outlets available for people to expand their knowledge base, with MIT OpenCourseWare being one of the more popular ones. Heck, people could even use YouTube to gain a better understanding of any one topic. It could even be argued that a source like YouTube is better, since the educational videos I've seen were explained in very simple terms (which are always the best terms).

That all goes to show that the sources are there, and are very easy to access. You don't even need an account to access nearly the same material as MIT students do! However, Gates was absolutely right in that motivation is a really strong factor in wanting to find that stuff. I think that a source of that waning motivation comes from the desire to find a job, especially "in this economy."

So many people see school solely as a "means to an end," and many schools set themselves up to be precisely this. When one's goal is simply to graduate, there's "no time" to bother with learning the extra stuff; it's all about the grade in that paradigm.

I don't want to make this longer than it already is, but what I think would be awesome is to let students "create a major" at the college level. Some schools, like RPI and RIT, already practice this, but it should be practiced much more heavily, especially in the sciences and engineering. As a finishing Computer Engineering student, I'll be the first to say that it kind of sucks that I have to take a ton of classes that will have no practical OR educational use for me, just so that I can graduate under the guidelines of a program. However, that rant is for another time.

It's on YouTube (5, Insightful)

Latinhypercube (935707) | more than 5 years ago | (#28706173)

Here :- 1964 Messenger Lecture 1 Character of Physical Law 1 of 7 [youtube.com] I have been loving discovering Feynman. As much as he reveals and explains interesting physics, he also maps the limits of our current understanding. Questions like, how does gravity and matter work, why does light refract, simple aspects of physics that we still don't understand.
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