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In Europe, Auto Spam Translation Kicks In

kdawson posted more than 4 years ago | from the voulez-vous-du-viagra-a-base-de-plantes dept.

Spam 102

An anonymous reader writes "While spam levels globally remain at a two-year high of approximately 90 percent, some European countries are seeing levels of over 95%. According to a new MessageLabs report (PDF here), countries such as Germany, France and the Netherlands are being heavily targeted by spammers with automated spam translation techniques. The use of automated translation services enables multiple-language spam runs and is responsible for a 13% increase in spam levels in these countries since May."

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102 comments

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Re:fp (-1, Offtopic)

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Hey it me. We held last week, but you never asked (3, Funny)

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Re:Hey it me. We held last week, but you never ask (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28863873)

we should put an equal sign between spammer and terrorist, and let the "war on terror" do its magic ;)

Re:Hey it me. We held last week, but you never ask (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28864639)

Yea, because the war on terror was equally successful as the war on drugs... oh wait.

Re:Hey it me. We held last week, but you never ask (2, Interesting)

arogier (1250960) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864015)

I have to wonder if there might be a way to get spam filters to recognize machine translations.

Re:Hey it me. We held last week, but you never ask (2, Insightful)

codeButcher (223668) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864119)

My guess would be no, since if a machine can recognize a bad translation, it would probably also be able to use the same techniques to provide a better one - or at the least, come up with a number of translations then choose the best one from the bunch using the technique.

It will be an arms race all over again.

Re:Hey it me. We held last week, but you never ask (1)

Firethorn (177587) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864133)

But on the whole we'd get better translators out of it, so that would be good.

Personally, I keep coming back to the 'put a hit out on the spammers'.

Yes, I know it's illegal and hard to track down the spammers, but surely we can do something?

Re:Hey it me. We held last week, but you never ask (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28864161)

It may be illegal, but it would be a lot of fun!

Re:Hey it me. We held last week, but you never ask (2, Informative)

vintagepc (1388833) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864241)

too true... but if we get details on a "spam king" I don't see why we can't sign him up for every mass-mailing list (hard-copy AND digital) we can find... Give him a taste of his own medicine. If they try to sue, everyone will just laugh their asses off and counter-sue on the same claim.
Remember Alan Ralsky? The guy ended up getting _truckloads_ of mail every day.

Re:Hey it me. We held last week, but you never ask (1)

Dogtanian (588974) | more than 4 years ago | (#28870991)

if we get details on a "spam king" I don't see why we can't sign him up for every mass-mailing list (hard-copy AND digital) we can find... Give him a taste of his own medicine.

Won't that add another four inches to his manh00d and end shame at his tiny m3mb3r?

Oh... hang on, no it won't.

Re:Hey it me. We held last week, but you never ask (1)

vintagepc (1388833) | more than 4 years ago | (#28874419)

Nah; If I recall correctly, the only thing that gets any bigger is their egos, but that's not the medication's fault - otherwise people with small ones wouldn't have any self-esteem issues.

Re:Hey it me. We held last week, but you never ask (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28865645)

I'm not so sure. Helping the machine to define criteria by which to recognise certain types of text is rather easier than programming them to create certain types of text, because in the first instance you're saying "here's a lot of type 1 text, here's a lot of type 2 text, now quantify the linguistic differences", whereas in the second you're saying "here's a type 1 text, please make intelligent decisions about the correct way to change type 1 features into type 2 features."

Re:Hey it me. We held last week, but you never ask (1)

arogier (1250960) | more than 4 years ago | (#28866281)

But wouldn't an arms race be good for the economy?

Re:Hey it me. We held last week, but you never ask (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28871475)

if a machine can recognize a bad translation, it would probably also be able to use the same techniques to provide a better one

I'd have to disagree with you on that. Being able to verify a solution vs. being able to get the best solution is the crux of the P=NP problem, which (as you probably know) has not been solved to this day.

Re:Hey it me. We held last week, but you never ask (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28868981)

I guess I'm going to have to add "Engrish" to the list of languages I won't accept in email.

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Netherlands here (1)

Zsub (1365549) | more than 4 years ago | (#28863799)

I haven't seen any spam in ages... Although that could be the work of Gmail's spamfilter. =)

Re:Netherlands here (1)

TeXMaster (593524) | more than 4 years ago | (#28863927)

I get spam even in gmail

Re:Netherlands here (2, Informative)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864103)

I get spam even in gmail

I don't see much of it in gmail, only a couple per day. But according to it's floating 30 day archive I get about 18 000 per month. English is by far the most common language although I see a little Chinese, French and German every now and then.

Re:Netherlands here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28864127)

A couple per DAY?

I see under one a month, and my mail address is (was) in various places online as plain text. My spam count has never been over 2000.

Re:Netherlands here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28865855)

The only spam making it past gmail in my account now are very simple plain text ads, usually with a single clickable link to a yahoo group. They are all formatted identically (text is centered) and usually the text and/or subject mentions watches, although not always.

Re:Netherlands here (1)

kipin (981566) | more than 4 years ago | (#28866495)

The only spam making it past gmail in my account now are very simple plain text ads, usually with a single clickable link to a yahoo group. They are all formatted identically (text is centered) and usually the text and/or subject mentions watches, although not always.

I hope you hit the "Report Spam" button which helps with identifying future spams sent using pattern recognition.

Re:Netherlands here (1)

SL Baur (19540) | more than 4 years ago | (#28869771)

A couple per DAY?

That's a bit less than what I see in gmail.

Re:Netherlands here (1)

Monsieur_F (531564) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864451)

I was quite surprised recently when I received a spam that fooled the spam filter in my Yahoo! mailbox, because the subject of the message contained the word "viagra" (not even v14gr4 or the like).

I wondered whether that might be a way to detect people clicking on the "spam" button :)

Re:Netherlands here (1)

Lord Bitman (95493) | more than 4 years ago | (#28865879)

me neither! Also, I seem to get a lot fewer emails from my friends and relatives than I used to, but they probably just stopped using e-mail because of all the spam. But that's beside the point- I haven't gotten any spam in months, so the filter must be working perfectly!

Primera Publicar (2, Funny)

4D6963 (933028) | more than 4 years ago | (#28863803)

Oder ich hatte, wenn es nicht fur die Zeit, die zu ubersetzen.

Re:Primera Publicar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28863981)

WHAT? Your hovercraft is full of eels? o_O

Re:Primera Publicar (1)

davetv (897037) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864155)

google translate gives me (german->english) ... "Or I had, if not for the time, Translate."

Re:Primera Publicar (4, Funny)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864359)

It could be much worse:

Wenn ist das Nunstuck git und Slotermeyer? Ja ... Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput.

Re:Primera Publicar (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28864939)

prfft...

[ hums liberty bell march ]

Re:Primera Publicar (1)

Saint Fnordius (456567) | more than 4 years ago | (#28866151)

"The producers would like to note that due to military treaties, the Joke as presented in this forum as well as all documentaries is merely an approximation. The Royal Army Comedy Force refused to give us a copy, as the risk of joke proliferation is considered too great."

After all, imagine if a spammer got a hold of it...

Re:Primera Publicar (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 4 years ago | (#28868693)

I'm not a signatory of that treaty: I'm a non-government actor engaging in joke terrorism*. And to answer your question, the spammer who read it would die laughing, thus helping to solve the problem.

* Dear NSA: yes, I'm just kidding around, and am actually a pacifist.

My hovercraft is full of eels (4, Funny)

ciderVisor (1318765) | more than 4 years ago | (#28863833)

There to eat lemons, axe gravy soup.

Re:My hovercraft is full of eels (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28863849)

Er eten citroenen, bijl jus soep.

Didn't know this was news (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28863847)

I live in Finland and a lot of the spam I got in the pre-gmail era was translated. In famously bad Finnish, sure. This must be AT LEAST half a decade old idea but probably a lot older.

I actually tried to RTFA to see if I had misunderstood what this was about or if there were other important stuff in the article but it is really short (Would you like to enlarge your 4r71cl3) so there really wasn't...

Re:Didn't know this was news (1)

Sumbius (1500703) | more than 4 years ago | (#28865669)

I know the feeling. I live in Finland too and this has been happening for a long time. The horrible translations are certainly made by a bad translation program and are quite "interesting" thanks to the errors. I can cope with the good ol' email spam but some web ads are just horrible and clearly fake scamming attempts and THOSE translated spams get on my nerves sometimes.

Re:Didn't know this was news (1)

BrokenHalo (565198) | more than 4 years ago | (#28868619)

...and are quite "interesting" thanks to the errors.

Spam can be fun. I've started a party game where the contestants pick out lines or phrases from a bucketful of printed and cut-out spam text to construct poetry of any kind. The winner is simply the one whose opus is voted the coolest, funniest or most creative.

Re:Didn't know this was news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28868179)

Not news in Spain since... forever? More now, of course but the auto-translations have a long tradition.

Bad Spanish, English, bad English, ASCII/ANSI garbage, bank, paypal & eBay phishing...

An expected development (0)

Decker-Mage (782424) | more than 4 years ago | (#28863867)

No surprise here. Just as criminals, terrorists, et. al., can (mis-)use other modern technology such as disposable cell phones, modern transport systems, and even Google Earth, it should not surprise anyone that they can turn an open, un-metered web-service to their ends. We won't ever solve the misuse problem, not without changing the 'net to something that might prevent this, and I can't see any of us (/.) asking for it anyway.

Re:An expected development (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 4 years ago | (#28865325)

"I can't see any of us (/.) asking for it "

They can have my spam when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!

Still (1)

buchner.johannes (1139593) | more than 4 years ago | (#28863881)

Most of the Spam is coming from the US or US-based companies. Thank you CAN-SPAM :-(

Re:Still (1)

dargaud (518470) | more than 4 years ago | (#28863919)

Most of the Spam is coming from the US

I don't know about that, but as a european with a personal mail server in the US I get and awful lot of spam in russian and quite a bit in chinese.

Re:Still (2, Interesting)

broken_chaos (1188549) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864023)

Coming from and targeted to aren't necessarily the same thing.

That said, I'd still be willing to bet that any figures that say most spam comes from the USA are heavily inflated by the general number of computers connected to the internet - particularly the number of computers infected with some sort of botnet connected to the internet - and not actually directly from companies, organizations, or people based in the USA.

As an aside, I think one of the issues with the ever-increasing amount of spam e-mail is that addresses don't tend to get removed from spam lists - just added to. With time, the "send-to" lists would likely grow larger and larger, with a number of the addresses on them either being no longer in use or simply no longer existing. The attempts to spam them would still clog 'the tubes', but it might not represent a proportional increase in the amount of spam that gets seen by human eyes.

Re:Still (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28864129)

US households also tend to have more bandwidth available.

(before you claim otherwise, how does 128k and a 1G cap compare? How much spam can you send from here before you notice?)

Re:Still (1)

Hammer (14284) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864541)

640k up and no cap....

Re:Still (1)

dargaud (518470) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864337)

addresses don't tend to get removed from spam lists - just added to. With time, the "send-to" lists would likely grow larger and larger

With the various honeypots generating random pages full of emails, how is it possible that spam reaches valid emails anymore ? There should be a 1:10^12 ratio of valid vs honeypot addresses, and even that should jam the biggest botnets since botnets can't wait for a returned "Invalid email" message to clean its list. Or am I missing something?

Re:Still (1)

kill-1 (36256) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864497)

Because not every domain has a honeypot? The spammers just have to check that they don't send too many emails to a single domain.

Re:Still (4, Insightful)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864493)

USA originates twice as much spam as China.. the current most prolific spammer in the world is.... American (thanks to CAN SPAM).

Whereas it's much more multinational than it used to be there's one country always at the top of the list.

Re:Still (1)

Leafheart (1120885) | more than 4 years ago | (#28866389)

Don't worry, we Brazilians hate been behind you. We took away Orkut from you guys and will take the Top Spam position soon :)

Re:Still (1)

Hammer (14284) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864527)

IIRC a couple of years ago there was a massive effort to stop the single biggest spammer. A Georgia based man (that is GA USA)

Re:Still (1)

buchner.johannes (1139593) | more than 4 years ago | (#28865403)

I get an awful lot of Spam in Russian and quite a bit in Chinese.

If you use SpamAssessin, there is an solution: It implements language detection. If mail is in a language you can't read anyway, just give it a higher score!

http://email.about.com/cs/spamassassintips/qt/et032504.htm [about.com]
http://www.yrex.com/spam/spamconfig.php [yrex.com]

Re:Still (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28865959)

get fucked eurotrash. Legit US COMPANIES aren't sending you spam. Criminal spammers are, via spam networks in user PC's like your grandma's.
If you get email you signed up for and aren't smart enough to unsubscribe with the link provided by LEGIT business, then you should unplug your PC and give it away.

Re:Still (1)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 4 years ago | (#28871075)

Most of the Spam is coming from the US or US-based companies. Thank you CAN-SPAM :-(

And the translations are due to French law requiring advertisements have all words foreign to the French language be translated.

Thank you, France! Thank you so bloody much!

(BTW, the Wikipedia page for the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages [wikipedia.org] needs more information. For one, the two levels of protection are not defined.)

I will not buy this record (1)

Knoeki (1149769) | more than 4 years ago | (#28863883)

It is scratched.

Spam & Phishing ! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28863885)

Actually, it is not only spam but phishing too that is booming thanks to antomatic translation.

Lately, users from Illiad/Free one of the major ISP in France have received Phishing emails that tries to get your ISP acount.
The basic technique is to claim your account has been locked because you did not comply with the contract service term. This is a realy good trap, P2P users might immediatly think ... doh, HADOPI's three stroke internet ban is already in action... I better take action. Then, the mail proposes to you a double-check from the ISP, and ask you to confirm all your credits (account and credit card number).

More on http://www.universfreebox.com/article8701.html [universfreebox.com]

Fortunatly, automatic translation are still not perfect and you can see those fake are not from the ISP as the orthography is bad or the way of saying thing is not correct (clearly indicates to reader the author is not a native or official).
An example, the company name is Free and the signature written in spam/phishing is "free support" but it sounds odd as it should have been either "assitance free" or even "support free". But they are smart enough not to have written "libre supporte" or "libre assistance" or even worse "support gratuit", as you can get using automatic translation such as google.

Re:Spam & Phishing ! (1)

johnw (3725) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864515)

Then, the mail proposes to you a double-check from the ISP

This posting has been auto-translated from French - yes?

What could possibly be so exciting (1)

mxh83 (1607017) | more than 4 years ago | (#28863907)

.. about this story that it hits the headlines in /.? Spammers and hackers will always find a way, we've seen that since the damn of computing. Without them, anyone associated with security would be jobless.

Translation quality (1)

VincenzoRomano (881055) | more than 4 years ago | (#28863939)

is so poor that automated filtering could be put in please quite easily.

Re:Translation quality (2, Insightful)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864019)

if automated filtering would be that good then you could use the same engine to make the actual automatic translation.

Re:Translation quality (1)

sFurbo (1361249) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864033)

Hey, great, so, by being able to check a solution, it is possible to find a solution? I think you just showed that P=NP.

Re:Translation quality (2, Insightful)

VincenzoRomano (881055) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864163)

Checking translation error patterns is not translating. I think.

Re:Translation quality (1)

Skater (41976) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864257)

Word and the like have grammar checkers. I know they're not perfect, but they almost certainly would catch most spam... and they don't offer translation functions.

Of course they'd also catch many non-spam messages, too, at the highest settings, so the rules would have to be pretty loose.

Re:Translation quality (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28864835)

If it means we can finally get good automatic translations I say go for it!

Re:Translation quality (1)

CrashNBrn (1143981) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864099)

Then the spammers must not be using translate.google.com, because that has enabled me to read websites and boards in german, russian and romanian.

Idiot badge (1)

Inda (580031) | more than 4 years ago | (#28863957)

My spam count, in my Gmail spam folder, has recently jumped from 4,000 to 5,500 per 30 days.

Have another Idiot badge, you dirty spammers. Or get yourself a Gmail account.

My spamgourmet.com addresses have seen a rise too.

Have another Idiot badge. The clue is in the email address.

And finally, if you are going to send me Phishing emails, I bank with Natwest, not Egg, not Halifax, not Bank of America, Bank of... In fact, I'll give you my account number, password and PIN. The bills need paying at the end of the month. Good luck doing anything else without the physical card reader.

Idiots.

Re:Idiot badge (1)

BlackPignouf (1017012) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864071)

What I don't understand about spamgourmet, is that if I know that you used somecompany.3.yourid@spamgourmet.com, I could spam you on whatever.20.yourid@spamgourmet, right?

Plus, I'm sure it's linked to a legitimate email adress you care about.

Any hint?

Re:Idiot badge (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28864115)

Spam gourmet has functionality for preventing this. Should spammers start doing this to you, then you can either just turn off the automatic forwarding, and only allow specific *.*.yourUserid combinations that you manually added yourself.

Re:Idiot badge (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#28866987)

If people aren't doing that, Spamgourmet is effective (I don't use it, but I was curious how far they took things). Even if spammers were doing that, you could set up a filter and have the option of dealing with those emails on a lower priority basis.

Also, they have a feature where you can require a changeable prefix in the address (i.e prefix.whatever..., anything without it gets ignored) and offer the ability to disable/delete accounts.

Re:Idiot badge (1)

CrashNBrn (1143981) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864139)

Really? I think in the last two years, I've only seen 2 or 3 spam messages total.

As opposed to a newly created Hotmail account that received 1 spam msg before the day was out, and ~2 spam msg's every week or so.

As opposed to my yahoo acct, that I've had for 6+ years, and have used for anything that required an email online -- that gets ~14 spams a week.

Why are spam levels still this high? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28863969)

SRSLY, i don't see the big problem in fighting spam. we have the technology.

my own _tiny_ mailserver (hosting about a hundred users) is effectively REJECTING spam using out-of-the box, not even customized technologies & services (thanks go to those who set them up) (policyd-weight, spamassassin, clamav w/ SaneSecurity). if false negatives should occur (never happened to me), the sender will get a non-delivery notification so he/she can act on it. large sites otoh should be able to fight spam using statistic methods.

Because your mailserver sends unsollicited mail! (1)

Jerry Smith (806480) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864117)

SRSLY, i don't see the big problem in fighting spam. we have the technology.

my own _tiny_ mailserver (hosting about a hundred users) is effectively REJECTING spam using out-of-the box, not even customized technologies & services (thanks go to those who set them up) (policyd-weight, spamassassin, clamav w/ SaneSecurity). if false negatives should occur (never happened to me), the sender will get a non-delivery notification so he/she can act on it. large sites otoh should be able to fight spam using statistic methods.

Falsified reply-to address? Joe-job? Go do you home-work, boy.

REJECT != BOUNCE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28864149)

Falsified reply-to address? Joe-job? Go do you home-work, boy.

if you have to be an offending smartass, at least read and understand my posting.

Re:Why are spam levels still this high? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28864221)

I think you mean false positives. False negative is when a spam does get through, a false positive is when a wanted email is filtered/bounced. And if you have email addresses that are used in publicily visible places a lot, you would be suffering too. I get 3-4000 spams per day, about 20 of those manage to get through my spamfilters, but I do regularly get false positives, although most are solicited commercial email. I know I could probably improve the quality of my spam filtering solution, but this way it is still manageable for me so I'm too lazy to fix it.

Re:Why are spam levels still this high? (1)

Skater (41976) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864273)

Spamassassin catches much of my spam, but I'm getting more and more in my inbox.

But your "non-delivery notification" is what the other person was responding to - you're effectively backspamming the people whose email addresses get put on outgoing spam. For some reason, this happens to me about once a year - someone will use one of my email addresses as the return address on a spam message, so I'll get hundreds/thousands of "your message was rejected because it looked like spam" messages, along with normal bounce messages. Of course I'm not out spamming people, but I have to deal with the crap by both spammers and by people sending reject emails. For these reasons, I'm with the poster above that said we should just put a bounty on spammers - I've spent far too much time dealing with the consequences (hint: It's not "just delete the message").

Re:Why are spam levels still this high? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28864413)

But your "non-delivery notification" is what the other person was responding to

Yes, and he/she was wrong. I'm not sending any non-delivery notification. I'm rejecting spam, which means the mailserver checks the mail while the smtp connection from the sending mailserver is still open. if it is considered spam, it will not accept the message and tell this to the sending mail server. Now it's the sending mail server's responsibility to tell it's user that the message could not be delivered. Legit MTAs will do this (they have to) while spammers usually just drop the connection and move on. They even seem to remember this decision, i noticed a drop in incoming spam on servers that are not queueing spam.

Once again: As long as i don't queue a message (and thus promise to the sender that i will take care of it), i can reject all spam, risking false negatives (got it right this time)) as i know a *legit* sender will be notified by *his/her* mta and can take action (i.e. check if his mx is blacklisted).

Re:Why are spam levels still this high? (1)

Skater (41976) | more than 4 years ago | (#28875007)

In your first post:

the sender will get a non-delivery notification so he/she can act on it

Now, here:

I'm not sending any non-delivery notification.

Your new explanation makes sense but you have a statement in there that directly conflicts with what you said the first time (and flamed someone else for responding to it).

Hallo! (2, Funny)

Canazza (1428553) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864007)

Kan jeg spørre deg om litt hjelp? Jeg trenger en engelsk-norsk ordbok. Jeg forlanger å få snakke med den fem fem to diesel toget!

Re:Hallo! (1)

MrMr (219533) | more than 4 years ago | (#28870169)

I think slåshdøt is brøken, I cån see the å's and ø's insteåd of [undef] chäråcters.
Could we get our old buggy version back?

Obligatory(?...) (0)

derGoldstein (1494129) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864047)

But in Soviet Russia, Auto Spam Translation Kicks You!

Re:Obligatory(?...) (2, Insightful)

arndawg (1468629) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864617)

Soviet Russia was never funny... Also the meme was pretty boring to.

Re:Obligatory(?...) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28870383)

I.e., in Soviet Russia, meme bores you. If you wanted to make a joke you could have used the standard format.

Automated translations? (1)

houghi (78078) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864055)

And you thought the English spam was bad.

I am still amazed that email is still used at these high levels of abuse.

99.9% of my gmail spam is US based (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28864297)

yep, if i just pick one (of the 5,000 in my spam folder) at random and examine the headers it comes from a US based domain, registered with a US based hidden private reg company from a US based registra, hosted in the US, on a US IP (connected with MZIMA or Texas usually), with Domainkeys and valid TXT records advertising a US based scam/company, the amount of foreign spam or from a botnet or China is so small its negligible

it would be simple to catch these people but yet nothing is done and my spam folder continues to fill relentlessly
it makes me wonder if the US is even trying to stop them judging by the persistence and regularity of the mail received

Re:99.9% of my gmail spam is US based (2, Informative)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864519)

They're not.. they legalised it. That was the whole point of CAN SPAM.

Unfortunately blackholing the entire US isn't an option (you'd lose slashdot for a start).

Re:99.9% of my gmail spam is US based (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28864685)

so, nothing of value lost, then ...

Re:99.9% of my gmail spam is US based (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 4 years ago | (#28866345)

Unfortunately blackholing the entire US isn't an option (you'd lose slashdot for a start).

We could just blackhole post 25...

Re:99.9% of my gmail spam is US based (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 4 years ago | (#28865419)

Isn't spam patented? The patent trolls should go after the spammers. Or, is there some sort of agreement that those in the shallow end of the gene pool won't attack each other?

And spam filters suck against it (2, Informative)

shiznatix (924851) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864387)

I live in Estonia and have been noticing this for quite some time. Funny thing is, I only get Russian language spam, a language I don't speak at all and never have been associated with speaking, no idea why the spammers seam to think I speak it. You would think if they spammed Estonia, they would do it in Estonian but I have never gotten any in Estonian. Even the company's inbox where I work gets only Russian spam.

It shows up in my gmail every day and what sucks is no matter how many of them I mark as spam (they are for sure spam, I got my Russian friend to translate a few and they are all about pills and whatnot) I still get them in my inbox. I wish there was a "any emails in this language are spam" setting but alas, there is not.

Re:And spam filters suck against it (1)

xlotlu (1395639) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864885)

At some point I started getting russian spam. Useless since I can't read it, but still annoying since Gmail didn't recognize it as spam. So I came up with this filter:
Matches: from:(.ru)
Do this: Skip Inbox, Delete it

It works for most of it, and the few that didn't come from .ru addresses I'd flag manually as spam. But I haven't seen one pass through in quite a while, so I guess Gmail got better at russian.

And some unrelated anecdotal food for thought: I started getting german spam one week after ordering from amazon.de.

That explains why I keep getting these (1)

codewarren (927270) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864533)

Subject: V1agr4

Translation server error. An unexpected error has occurred and the input text could not be parsed. Please try again.

Why does auto-translation make a difference? (1)

johnw (3725) | more than 4 years ago | (#28864537)

I've never noticed spammers making any attempt to communicate with me in my own language - I get spam (or rather, don't get - but it's there for me to scan if I want to check my filters are working correctly) in just about any language. The lack of an ability to speak English doesn't seem to have impeded them in the past, so why would auto-translation make a difference?

Really? (1)

Zeikzeil (1099785) | more than 4 years ago | (#28865807)

"While spam levels globally remain at a two-year high of approximately 90 percent" I'm at less than 10% of what I received a year ago. That's like 3 spam messages a week.

Auto-translated spam is the most effective... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28865821)

... since there's nothing like it to lure victims in.

"This is Mail from bank your. Need you give secretary identify number us. You no want trouble so do what ask we."

Spamassassin FTW! (1)

Bigbutt (65939) | more than 4 years ago | (#28866283)

Spamassassin :) Here are the counts from my procmail log since I started on my current mail server.

                Mon/Year Mail Spam
                Oct 2006 686 281
                Nov 2006 1661 694
                Dec 2006 2029 757
                Jan 2007 1496 616
                Feb 2007 1613 650
                Mar 2007 1979 842
                Apr 2007 1956 778
                May 2007 1846 755
                Jun 2007 1810 731
                Jul 2007 1978 25
                Aug 2007 2249 0
                Sep 2007 2229 1393
                Oct 2007 2187 1916
                Nov 2007 2378 2035
                Dec 2007 2381 2143
                Jan 2008 2453 2005
                Feb 2008 2671 2294
                Mar 2008 3084 2687
                Apr 2008 2971 2547
                May 2008 3289 2955
                Jun 2008 3346 3010
                Jul 2008 2983 2592
                Aug 2008 4951 4579
                Sep 2008 3911 3546
                Oct 2008 2189 1830
                Nov 2008 789 493
                Dec 2008 556 271
                Jan 2009 1231 833
                Feb 2009 2017 1657
                Mar 2009 2683 2199
                Apr 2009 4020 3562
                May 2009 4936 4519
                Jun 2009 3108 2216
                Jul 2009 3855 3330

Re:Spamassassin FTW! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28871065)

So nearly 50% of the mail traffic hitting your server is spam and that makes you happy because?

Not just spam (1)

astralpancakes (1164701) | more than 4 years ago | (#28866447)

Advertisers on Facebook like to use translation services too, with similar unintentionally hilarious results.

No problem (1)

Fuzzums (250400) | more than 4 years ago | (#28866639)

As long as they don't know how to check for errors in the translation.

Example: Dear has two uses. A formal and an informal one. If you receive a letter from a lawyer that uses the informal translation, it just looks stupid.

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