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Microsoft and Yahoo Reach Deal

kdawson posted more than 4 years ago | from the rhymes-with-sting dept.

Yahoo! 301

e9th writes "We know that Microsoft failed last February in its attempt to buy Yahoo. Now, Advertising Age reports that they've reached a deal. Instead of a buyout, the two will enter into a revenue sharing agreement, and Bing will become Yahoo's default search engine. The meat of the AdAge article can be found in Yahoo News. This deal may give Google something to worry about."

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301 comments

Goodbye old friend. (5, Funny)

thatkid_2002 (1529917) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862063)

BRB, cancelling my Yahoo! account.

Mod me down you faggot liberals!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862085)

Niggers are beasts that rape and defile our Aryan princesses. I cant believe you anericunts voted that ooga bongo as your president. White guilt in action.

Re:Mod me down you faggot liberals!! (-1, Flamebait)

sonicmerlin (1505111) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862773)

I know I shouldn't feed the troll, but... If Asians took your point of view, they would consider Aryan "princesses" to be promiscuous beasts who perpetually cheat on their partners and sacrifice their families' and children's well-being for their personal gain.

Re:Goodbye old friend. (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862137)

Good idea. Most people probably wouldn't think to cancel their account, but an announcement from an important person like yourself will serve as an example to others. If it were anyone else we wouldn't care, but you..... you are truly special. Thanks for taking the time to share your personal life with us. Please, in the future, continue to let us know which companies you will abandon out of spite.

Just one reminder though, Yahoo was never your friend. Nobody working at that company gave two liquid shits what you or anyone you know has ever done. It's OK though. They didn't care, but we do.

Re:Goodbye old friend. (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862401)

The bean counters at Yahoo! should care if a big enough percentage of their current users cancel their accounts.

Re:Goodbye old friend. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862567)

Which is why a few no name nerds on Slashdot whining about this aren't going to make them care in the least bit.

Re:Goodbye old friend. (5, Informative)

HouseOfMisterE (659953) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862163)

Others may joke, but I agree with you. I'll miss them, but goodbye to my.yahoo.com and www.yahoo.com.

Re:Goodbye old friend. (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862167)

It actually took you this shit to actually cancel your Yahoo account. Between their atrocious web email, and their pedophile chat network, what do they really have that's decent? Maybe yahoo sports.

On another note what is with all these stupid names Microsoft has been giving their search engines these days? It's like Microsoft is the tiny kid in the playground when it comes to the web. I guess all you guys who talk about how stupid FOSS project names are, are going to keep mum on Bing (soon to be named Bukkake or something another). Best of luck to a floundering Microsoft and an increasingly irrelevant Yahoo. Seriously, Google does need some competition in their default realm of search and content aggregation.

Re:Goodbye old friend. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862345)

Maybe he's a pedophile. I ain't saying, I'm just saying...

I used to get a lot of pussy out of yahoo chat, before it became infested with bots and fags. Of course, I kept it all legal.

Re:Goodbye old friend. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862203)

And how does changing the underlying search engine affect your yahoo account?

Re:Goodbye old friend. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862893)

And how does changing the underlying search engine affect your yahoo account?

He already answered that. Changing the underlying search engine to Bng leads to him cancelling his yahoo account.

Re:Goodbye old friend. (4, Funny)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862215)

And I had set Yahoo as Firefox's address bar search engine only a few days ago...

Re:Goodbye old friend. (4, Funny)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862409)

And my Firefox's address bar search engine was only two days away from retirement!

Digital nomads... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862251)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/25/AR2009072500878.html [washingtonpost.com]

FTFA:

"One of the inalienable rights of digital nomads is starting their workday well after many of their colleagues out at the cubicle farm have spent hours preparing for and getting to their workstations... It wasn't until about 11 that Gruber, a 31-year-old product strategist for AOL, arrived at the Hilton pool with Consalvo, his business partner."

Well, his hard work is clearly paying off for AOL. Oh, wait...

Re:Goodbye old friend. (1)

Amiralul (1164423) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862479)

I would have canceled my yahoo account years ago, but Y!Messeneger is very used by a lot of my friends.

Re:Goodbye old friend. (-1, Troll)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862763)

What the hell is someone from Yahoo doing here at slashdot? You got lost or something? I would have thought that even MS fanbois could find something better than Yahoo. About the only thing worse is AOhell.

Lol... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862071)

Now, the people who were avoiding Bing, will now avoid Bing and Yahoo...

What, exactly, does Google have to worry about, except MS cashback?

Re:Lol... (5, Insightful)

revlayle (964221) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862235)

Most people don't "avoid" Bing (except maybe people like on slashdot, which aren't a consumer majority, by a longshot). People do not use Bing because most people have already used Yahoo! and Google for years, most people won't know the difference that much except maybe "hmm it looks a little bit different". If Bing's engine is better than Yahoo!'s, then maybe people will stay with Yahoo! even longer - well, as long as Yahoo can survive that is.

Re:Lol... (1)

koreaman (835838) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862511)

You're forgetting the loads of people who get Bing by default with IE8.

Will Bing get better? (3, Interesting)

MikeFM (12491) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862573)

Have you used Bing? It kind of sucks. I can only hope it gets better but I don't know - lots of people complain it won't index their websites although I've had no trouble in that area.

Or maybe I just search for things it isn't good at - things I want to buy and documentation mostly. The most amusing was the other day when I tried looking up information about Bing's spiders (that behave oddly - not always following robots.txt and changing their user agent to look like IE). Couldn't find a thing on Bing but Google found it right away. Conspiracy to hide the information or suckage?

That's another interesting point. Why is Bing hitting my site again and again and making it look like real users using simple one word searches but all from the Bing IP block? When I try to use the same searches to find the same pages I don't see my site come up. Hmmm. Either way it's easier for webmasters if everyone just licenses one or two major search engines (Google and Bing) so that you only have to optimize your content to be listed high on them. It's hard when they all work different and sometimes in conflicting ways.

Re:Lol... (1)

shacky003 (1595307) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862789)

"People do not use Bing because most people have already used Yahoo! and Google for years, most people won't know the difference that much except maybe "hmm it looks a little bit different"..."

Oh, so you mean just like what happened when Google hit the scene?
I'm by all means a fan of Google over Bing, but the above logic is ever so slightly off, considering the history of the search engine battles..

I just asked Google if it had any reason to worry (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862075)

It said 0 results found.

Re:I just asked Google if it had any reason to wor (4, Funny)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862233)

If that's true, it missed the antitrust investigation against them.

Re:I just asked Google if it had any reason to wor (2, Funny)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862421)

I searched "Google antitrust investigation" and it returned this image [leconcombre.com]

Re:I just asked Google if it had any reason to wor (1)

Hailth (1479371) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862871)

Well, that's because it's revenue sharing... not innovation. All they've done is added their % of the market together, which is still the same % of the market that isn't google dominated. And somehow, agreeing to share ad revenue doesn't seem like an effective way to grow your customer base...

fags all of em !!!!! !!m$!! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862081)

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Moot point (4, Insightful)

Sporkinum (655143) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862087)

Yahoo search was useless anyway, so having bing won't change anything for me. It will give them great insight into how people use yahoo's web site though, which will probably allow MSN to poach yahoo users.

Re:Moot point (-1, Flamebait)

rtb61 (674572) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862289)

They might be using Bing engine but at least it wont say bing in the title or anywhere on the page. Bing was a really lame name choice, it was used years back when they asked a obvious question and you gave them the answer, it is like a polite version of 'dumbass'.

So I use M$'s search and its like here's your answer 'dumbass' you should have already know it. It reflects the old game shows before they got caught cheating, started off somewhat neutral and shifted to a more negative connotation.

M$ had better pick up pretty quick that if people prefer MSN search or Live Search ahead of 'BING/Dumbass' search let them use it.

Now you might think that is pretty petty but hey search engines are much of a muchness, so mild irritations are more than enough to shift choice. M$ catch up to google, never without street view, it is really handy and a fun thing to use and play with.

Re:Moot point (4, Funny)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862381)

So I use M$'s search and its like here's your answer 'dumbass' you should have already know it.

...yet something tells me that anyone who refers to Microsoft as "M$" has no problem using something called "The Gimp".

Google worrying. (5, Informative)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862095)

Yeah. [searchengineland.com]

Re:Google worrying. (4, Interesting)

joe_bruin (266648) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862341)

I recall Fake Steve Jobs had some rather insightful thoughts on this. [blogspot.com]

The Borg-Yahoo merger won't work. Here's why. It's like taking the two guys who finished second and third in a 100-yard dash and tying their legs together and asking for a rematch, believing that now they'll run faster.

Re:Google worrying. (5, Funny)

davester666 (731373) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862403)

He missed out on the part that one of them gets shot as part of the tying process...

Re:Google worrying. (1)

DerekLyons (302214) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862801)

Insightful? In what way? All I see is a bunch of Microsoft and Ballmer bashing with little in the way of content or commentary.

Bing... (4, Funny)

freedomlinux (1072142) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862103)

Bing will become Yahoo's default search engine.
I think I just cried a little...

Re:Bing... (4, Funny)

Itninja (937614) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862735)

Yahoo has always been the swinger of the search engine party. For a while it was even powered by Google. When Bing gets old and fat Yahoo will move onto some other nubile young thing.

Re:Swing (1)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862903)

Search-engine pr0n! Rule 34.

Google in trouble? (5, Insightful)

lordharsha (1101875) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862107)

Cobbling together 2 inferior technologies doesn't give you a superior one. I don't really think Google has anything to worry about. Kindly take your rabble rousing elsewhere.

Re:Google in trouble? (2, Funny)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862127)

Cobbling together 2 inferior technologies doesn't give you a superior one.

But it never stopped anyone from trying! [penny-arcade.com]

Re:Google in trouble? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862183)

dude, you really believe bing is an inferior technology. It has less market share. less market share != inferior technology. If you look at search results from the bing and google, if you remove branding, it's almost impossible to tell the which is which.

Re:Google in trouble? (1)

killthepoor187 (1600283) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862555)

People keep saying this, but any time that I've used Bing I've spent more time sifting through results, although I could just be more accustomed to entering queries for google after a decade or so.

And while less market share definitely != inferior technology *cough*linux*cough, in this case Google's vastly superior data-pool gives them a huge advantage in developing efficient search algorithms. They just have a shitton more data to work with to figure out how to give people what they are looking for.

Re:Google in trouble? (4, Funny)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862217)

Cobbling together 2 inferior technologies doesn't give you a superior one.

Hey, it worked for Reese's!

Re:Google in trouble? (2, Insightful)

Panzor (1372841) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862395)

Hey, do not deem chocolate OR peanut butter to be an inferior technology. Fellow chocoholics and peanut butter enthusiasts! Grab yer pitchforks!

Re:Google in trouble? (5, Funny)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862599)

I don't think the "You got Bing in my Yahoo!" commercial would fly so well. I'm sure someone would misinterpret it.

Re:Google in trouble? (5, Insightful)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862777)

I don't think the "You got Bing in my Yahoo!" commercial would fly so well. I'm sure someone would misinterpret it.

I dunno - that kinda sounds like you captured the essence of the business relationship pretty well there.

Re:Google in trouble? (1)

boarder8925 (714555) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862255)

Cobbling together 2 inferior technologies doesn't give you a superior one.

Damn straight, it gives you a SuperInferior(TM) technology! Or, you know, just Super. With all the SuperShiny(TM) bells and whistles you've come to know and loathe! Well, we've still got the marketing to work out, but trust us, we will fucking bury Google!

Re:SuperInferior! (1)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862921)

Actually, you StumbledUpon something... (sorry - bad pun.)

Microsoft never mastered the art of naming. When they go short they get things like Zunes that squirt and Bing.

So then they retreat by putting their properties menu into the name.
InferiorTech with the SuperiorityComplex.

Re:Google in trouble? (5, Interesting)

bonch (38532) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862357)

It's interesting how people side with Google on this site, even though they're guilty of many of the things people complain about Microsoft doing, such as putting out lots of side products that have little to moderate success, attempting to tie branded products together to create one giant platform, and collecting data on users. Merely suggesting a competitor could actually make Google worry about something is even labeled rabble rousing.

Re:Google in trouble? (5, Insightful)

shish (588640) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862595)

such as putting out lots of side products that have little to moderate success

I can't say I've ever even seen anyone complain about either company doing this o_O What are you talking about, and why is this supposed to be a problem? :S

attempting to tie branded products together to create one giant platform

Having a large platform is fine, if it's based on open standards, and people using third party clients and servers aren't shunned

Re:Google in trouble? (1)

DrugCheese (266151) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862683)

1. They don't charge for those side products, if you don't like them don't use them. Unlike overpriced software you're forced to deal with because it truly does have a monopoly on office software.

2. The first step to anything google is to manually go to google.com. Microsoft comes installed into almost every premade computer, with it's own software like IE and Outlook pre installed as defaults and using their services as default.

3. Google gives a very clear policy [google.com] on what information they save and why.

Re:Google in trouble? (1)

DerekLyons (302214) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862823)

Showing that you, like many other here on /. mistakenly think of Google as only a search company - rather than considering how Google is an also-ran in many of the areas that Microsoft and Yahoo! dominate in. There's more to the web than search.

Everybody needs competition (5, Insightful)

nitroamos (261075) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862111)

including Google.

Re:Everybody needs competition (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862231)

When that competition arrives, I expect to read about it here, today is not that day.

Re:Everybody needs competition (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862275)

You still need to learn how to read?

Re:Everybody needs competition (1)

Korbeau (913903) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862429)

What is this Google thing you are talking about? Should I Yahoo it?

Re:Everybody needs competition (1)

Scarletdown (886459) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862707)

Bring up your preferred search engine and do a search of the Internet for more info.

Tech version of Stearns County Syndrome (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862141)

This is why we don't allow cousins to marry...

What strange mutations/recessive genes are we going to see sprout out of all this coupling???

Re:Tech version of Stearns County Syndrome (0, Redundant)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862481)

Either Yahing or Boo!

Re:Tech version of Stearns County Syndrome (1)

sonicmerlin (1505111) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862809)

Hey, cousins marry all the time in the rest of the world. Studies have demonstrated no genetic "inbreeding" issues arise from first cousins having children.

Two wrongs don't make a right... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862147)

But two trains traveling a break-neck speeds towards each other with no sign of stopping makes me feel like throwing some popcorn in the microwave.

Yahoo's promise to discard data after 3 months? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862171)

I switched from Google to Yahoo! search recently because Yahoo! promised to discard user search data after 3 months. I'm guessing that the switch to Bing negates that promise, so what search engine(s) are left that are both useful & ethical?

Re:Yahoo's promise to discard data after 3 months? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862311)

scroogle is a good search engine. http://www.scroogle.org/scraper.html [scroogle.org]

Re:Yahoo's promise to discard data after 3 months? (2, Interesting)

vain gloria (831093) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862591)

Cuil was launched last year with great fanfare regarding its privacy policy which promised not to track users' personally identifiable information. See their current policy alongside a warning that it is soon to change somehow here: http://www.cuil.com/info/privacy/ [cuil.com]

I use and normally recommend Clusty which says in plain English that "We at Clusty don't track you." (http://clusty.com/privacy) and in legalese that they do collect "Internet Protocol address, browser type, browser language, referral data, the date and time of your query and one or more cookies (described below) that may uniquely identify your browser" (http://clusty.com/privacypolicy).

That's either ethical or useful for you. tl;dr - one beginning with "C".

Re:Yahoo's promise to discard data after 3 months? (1)

Antony-Kyre (807195) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862641)

Why can't you just block cookies, or am I missing something here?

Hopefully this provides the competition Google needs to better their search results.

Re:Yahoo's promise to discard data after 3 months? (1)

slashdot_commentator (444053) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862815)

You could check out https://startpage.com./ [startpage.com.]

(I have not tried to verify their service claims.)

Yahcrosoft or Microhoo!? (2, Funny)

syousef (465911) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862199)

Yahcrsoft or Microhoo!? Which name are they going with?

Or Yahsoft? Or Microshoo?

Binghoosoft?

Anyone?

Re:Yahcrosoft or Microhoo!? (2, Funny)

kinabrew (1053930) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862229)

Bob

Re:Yahcrosoft or Microhoo!? (2, Funny)

buchner.johannes (1139593) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862245)

I like "Anyone" the best.

Re:Yahcrosoft or Microhoo!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862285)

"Anyone but..."

Re:Yahcrosoft or Microhoo!? (1)

Panzor (1372841) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862415)

Colbert?

Re:Yahcrosoft or Microhoo!? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862417)

Bing - Bing is not Google.

Its recursive and good enough.

Re:Yahcrosoft or Microhoo!? (2, Funny)

trouser (149900) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862431)

Microyahtzeehooshat.

How does one Bing a Google? Yahoo! (3, Funny)

Noodly Appendage (1174865) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862207)

Now how to explain this to Grandma with out her looking at me more stranger than usual. Hmm.

this deal may... (1)

grrrl (110084) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862261)

... or, more likely, will not give Google anything to worry about. at all.

What ddoes Yahoo! actually do? (1)

seifried (12921) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862283)

Seriously, they used to be a search company, but don't do search technology anymore, so what are they, just a portal/email provider now?

Not a buyout (1)

SilverHatHacker (1381259) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862317)

So Microsoft isn't buying Yahoo...they're just merging their bank accounts and Yahoo is adopting Microsoft's competing technology.
Makes perfect sense to me.

Great (3, Insightful)

Kamineko (851857) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862365)

Some people here are saying that the quality of Bing results is comparable to Google's results in many cases. If we assume that's true, then Yahoo will become exactly like it was several years ago when it was using Google. As a Yahoo service, it'll still be covered in crap, and all that'll do is make people go to Bing, like Yahoo's use of Google lead to folks to use Google ("it's like Yahoo's search, but not crap!"). That'll work wonders for Yahoo. Again.

I don't get it... (4, Insightful)

Rocketship Underpant (804162) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862427)

Bing isn't really better than Yahoo's search it is? What's more, what about foreign-language searching? Yahoo is the only search engine that has spent significant resources improving their Japanese search results, for example. (Google is beginning to do this, but their search results still suck badly.) I imagine Bing would be a big step backward for most people outside the U.S.

Re:I don't get it... (1)

KamuZ (127113) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862585)

Well i think the improvement on Japanese search results is because Yahoo is HUGE in Japan, number #1 search engine and offers a lot of useful services for PC and mobile users. I think Google is pushing harder to be #1 in Japan so we should see improvements in the near future.

Re:I don't get it... (0)

rampant mac (561036) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862671)

"...improving their Japanese search results, for example. (Google is beginning to do this, but their search results still suck badly.)"

Because googling "I want to stick my tentacles in $1" isn't easy, even for Google?

Re:I don't get it... (4, Interesting)

JanneM (7445) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862733)

Agree on this. Yahoo is much better than Google for Japanese language search (and Google translate is a sad joke for Japanese; even when I take the time to read through the Japanese original I can often still not make sense of the English "translation"). There's going to be a lot of unhappy people here if they manage to bork that up.

Well, it was nice while it lasted (0, Troll)

inject_hotmail.com (843637) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862447)

I like yahoo because it returns relevant results, and isn't censored like google. MS's search has been a joke, ever since it started trying (though, they did try hard, for them...even searching their own KB database is easier/more relevant using google or yahoo). Yahoo's web search results, images, video I find are precisely what I am looking for without obtrusive advertising. I don't really like google, because its policy of Do No Evil (TM) has gone by the wayside in recent years. MS is more about showing obnoxious ads, archaic results, and letting companies pay them than actually providing accurate search results.

I guess like everything else these days, I have to go with the lesser of the standing evils. Google, I hate you, but, I must hate you less than Microsoft + Yahoo if I'm willing to switch.

Re:Well, it was nice while it lasted (2, Insightful)

sonicmerlin (1505111) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862849)

What do you mean "has gone by the wayside"? Could you specify what in the world you're talking about?

Re:Well, it was nice while it lasted (3, Insightful)

StoneCrusher (717949) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862947)

Could you please elaborate where Google has "Done More Evil". People questioned the privacy of their searches and they have since stated their privacy terms clearly (years ago). Google has advocated more open format and open source solutions backed with real money and development. They lobby for net neutrality and open access. I really don't see how they are doing evil.

People have to get used to the idea that if you type information into a website, that website has that information. It's pretty straight forward and there is no way around it. Even if they state they they will delete it, you can't verify that they have and should treat it as such. If you want to remain untrackable from any service, you have to use a proxy; end of story. PS. There isn't a shred of evidence that Google doesn't abide by their terms of service.

Without a specific grievance, it sounds like you are just rebelling against the popular and successful to make yourself feel special.

Google Is A Monopoly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862487)

Hopefully Google will be brought down a notch or two by this deal that they're reaching. Google is definitely a monopoly and Yahoo and MSN should at least be competing with them. I'm in Internet Marketing and everybody talks about Google, and panics when Google makes changes to their advertising platform or raises bid prices. They're just too big right now and some competition would be great.

Re:Google Is A Monopoly (1)

nicolas.kassis (875270) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862891)

Except looking at the larger picture, Microsoft is still a monopoly in the desktop world, browser world ...... helping them obtain more market monopolies isn't a good idea. I understand why people in the advertising community don't like the current situation considering they have to use Google to reach a significant part of the internet population but at the same time, this isn't because of actual barriers on user choice. If I want to use bing I can, nothing on Google (search that is) is really retaining me other than it's familiar and has proven itself for years. They are selling me to you and frankly they aren't preventing anyone in advertising from user competitors but they do have a larger audience to offer. You still have a choice albeit equivalent to the current choice of developing software for the mac or windows platform and Linux too. I'm not sure I understand how it's on the same level as other major monopolies of the past. Also wtf would Microsoft be allowed to do the exact same thing Google tried to do a year or so ago. Microsoft hasn't proven itself to be any less of a monopolistic company and they are using the internet to add power to their already large clout.

Good news for Flickr (1)

iamapizza (1312801) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862501)

This could be good news for Flickr - hopefully they'll get rid of that godawful Yahoo Maps implementation on flickr for geotagging and searching, and use Virtual Earth Maps instead. That's right, I said Virtual Earth Maps, not what it's called currently.

If you can't beat them.... (1)

kernel panic attack (810175) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862505)

then bully them into a buyout... RIP Yahoo! Nice knowing you. Jerry Yang may have pissed off his share holders, but he was doing the right thing I my view. Guess his legacy will be ....Bing? Please..... Now who's looking for a chair to throw....

What happened to Cuil (1)

Beelzebud (1361137) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862515)

I remember back when they had 20 million in start up money, and were poised to bring Google to their knees (or so ppl said). Whatever happened with that?

Re:What happened to Cuil (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862561)

it was an epic fail

Re:What happened to Cuil (3, Funny)

iamapizza (1312801) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862655)

They got slashdotted.

Wow! Now THAT's desperation! (1)

WheelDweller (108946) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862523)

They need SOMEONE to hit bling every time the browser comes up; that crowd will likely give them plenty of hits.

I don't know why they just don't force it as the IE start page...oh, wait: that's MSN.

A better choice... (1)

iCantSpell (1162581) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862581)

Well Yahoo just lost it's biggest user base, Japan. Yahoo in Japan is bigger than both Microsoft and Google, yahoo even provides internet, and cellphone services in Japan. It's going to be interesting to see what happens to Yahoo Japan. Yahoo search is not better than Google but in some ways out performs google when it comes to non-english results. I don't know why they would trash their so much better than bing search engine for well... bing. It's like trading in a convertable for a prius. I have used bing a few times, and I don't see why anyone would use it over Yahoo or Google. The results aren't exactly relative to the search term, and they seem to be similar to a default sql %QUERY% but that's just my opinion.

Re:A better choice... (1)

Renraku (518261) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862681)

I pretty much know what's going to happen to Yahoo in Japan.

If Microsoft ever fully takes Yahoo over, they're going to change everything around, and it's going to end up unpopular in Japan, or just die out. This is because Microsoft will no doubt enforce their own policies and code onto Yahoo, so that we'll be forced to use the shitty hotmail engine, the shitty MSN engine, and the shitty Bing search engine who's very name sounds like something a parent would use to describe what excrement is to a toddler.

Generally when Microsoft takes over a company, the company pretty much disappears, and MS incorporates whatever technology they had into their latest bloatware release or patch.

Flickr ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862659)

" What about Flickr ?
Will they make it as buggy as Windows too."

~epSos.de

This deal may give Google something to worry about (1)

D4C5CE (578304) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862675)

Why would it?

It diverts attention of competition authorities from a self-proclaimed "do no evil" search giant earning its money through rather unobtrusive advertising (and which has now even been given a reinvigorated major competitor), to a company that is no stranger to antitrust crosshairs and with a body of Findings of Fact [usdoj.gov] from earlier proceedings against it.

Bing vs Google (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28862691)

Bing advertises to the general masses via normal mediums. I guarantee it will gain in popularity soon. They need to improve the personalization of the Bing interface and how it integrates with MSN, then google will have something to worry about. I like some of the features I saw right away and some of the results it brought up for simple searches that I made. Google has overextended themselves recently and released a bunch of beta quality crapware that isn't worth shit. They completely ruined the iGoogle interface and there are so many quirks that piss me off and I wish I had an alternative.

Also, having to use gmail at my job after switching from exchange has been a complete JOKE. You don't realize how good exchange and outlook are until you don't have them. Seriously, any savings from subscription fees for the year are COMPLETELY lost and then some when we factor into the man hours wasted with gmails crap software. Don't believe me? Fuck those sysadmins at our work that wanted to change so that it would work on their macs. Now, I have trouble with the calendar, random imap disconnections, and my PC freezes trying to sync my mailbox and it makes working with clients reallllly difficult. I am a software engineer for credibility's sake (although I am sure the mac loving, slashdotting syadmins here will bitch about that).

How do you measure search engine accuracy? (1)

HockeyPuck (141947) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862799)

Does anybody have any ability to measure how good a particular search engine is? I'm not going to compare total hits, as searching for "linux" on both could result in 100m pages. Taking the reputations of the companies out of the question how do you determine which search engine is better? Do you have to know the inner workings of the algorithm to make an intelligent conclusion?

End of Yahoo BOSS? (1)

Memroid (898199) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862817)

What will this mean for Yahoo!'s BOSS (Build your Own Search Service)? On a related note, if Bing will become Yahoo!'s DEFAULT search engine, will they be continuing to develop their own?

Re:End of Yahoo BOSS? (1)

wdavies (163941) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862941)

Yeah this could be a big loss. I was just experimenting with some search similarity stuff, and Yahoo BOSS was orders of magnitude better than Bing and and Google in terms of result retrieval! Mod Up above please.

'This may give Google something to worry about' (1)

Cur8or (1220818) | more than 4 years ago | (#28862859)

I think google are having a party. I havent used bing yet, but the microsofties like it just as much as they liked Vista.
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