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Android Applications Soon To Run On MIPS32 Chips

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the enhance-enhance-enhance dept.

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OrangHutan writes "Google's Android software source code has been offered up for those looking to create applications on MIPS32 chips, which are different from Intel's x86 architecture and used by companies such as Cisco (in its Linksys devices), Motorola (set-top boxes) and Sony (DVD players). MIPS Technologies made the announcement on Monday and is giving 'software developers an early access program for customers, which will give them access to MIPS engineers and specific hardware and software optimizations.' The article goes on to say that MIPS made waves at the 'Computex electronics exhibition in Taipei by showing off a home media player and a 10.4-inch LCD with a built-in computer both running Android. They were among the first non-phones to be seen running the Google-developed OS.'"

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Happy Birthday, Big Brother! I love you! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28939739)

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I always wondered what it would be like to live in some 3rd world shithole with giant mosaics of the divinely chosen Dear Leader on every surface...

How much modification (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 4 years ago | (#28939745)

Before I could run Android on all my old SGI boxes that are collecting dust?

Re:How much modification (-1)

Heart Driven (1484993) | more than 4 years ago | (#28939809)

So my wireless Cisco router can run android now? Most of these devices have no ability to install an OS because they don't have a hard drive AFAIK...

Re:How much modification (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28939847)

It's called embedded flash memory. Your Cisco wireless router already runs an OS of some sort. Please destroy your geek card now!

Re:How much modification (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28940115)

It's called embedded flash memory. Your Cisco wireless router already runs an OS of some sort. Please destroy your geek card now!

NO MOST WIRELESS ROUTERS CONTAIN A LIQUEFIED BRAIN WHICH DOES ALL THE THINKING AND CALCULATING.

Re:How much modification (1)

artemis67 (93453) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940759)

Haven't you ever seen the Flintstones? Most routers contain a little birdie, plugging and unplugging wires to route traffic.

Re:How much modification (3, Funny)

Mercano (826132) | more than 4 years ago | (#28941019)

Hey, it's a living.

Re:How much modification (1)

Tetsujin (103070) | more than 4 years ago | (#28942693)

Hey, it's a living.

You're dead to me, can opener!

Re:How much modification (1, Insightful)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940273)

GP's point was that installing an OS is impossible. The fact that the router came pre-loaded with a minimal OS in its flash memory is irrelevant: installing a different one is still impossible.

Course, some routers let you re-flash the memory with a firmware update, but good luck figuring out how to load Android on a router using the firmware update feature.

Re:How much modification (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28940575)

*SIGH* I'm guessing that you've never heard of OpenWRT. You need to please destroy your geek card as well...

Re:How much modification (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28940623)

You'd have a point.. unless people weren't changing their wireless access point's OS on a daily basis already. Ever heard of tomato, dd-wrt, openwrt, etc. Of course you can also run plain debian if you want. You can even boot off a MMC/SD card even if the hardware provided flash is just 64kB, by wiring CPU's IO pins for SPI or something.

Re:How much modification (1)

tonyreadsnews (1134939) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940701)

Its not likely impossible, just difficult. Even if you can't flash the firmware through their OS's software, there's possibly JTAG pins somewhere. If not, the flash memory pins could be accessed directly. How else would any OS get loaded in the first place?
The only thing that would screw you is if the OS was loaded on to something read only such as ROM or flash with some kind of security bit that prevent any changes at all. But that would be a very bad design idea (have to get the software perfect before manufacturing release)

Recalls (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#28944479)

If not, the flash memory pins could be accessed directly. How else would any OS get loaded in the first place?

The memory is programmed and then soldered down. Good luck desoldering surface mount memory, reprogramming it, and resoldering it.

The only thing that would screw you is if the OS was loaded on to something read only such as ROM or flash with some kind of security bit that prevent any changes at all. But that would be a very bad design idea (have to get the software perfect before manufacturing release)

Some games for Nintendo DS were recalled due to programming defects and replaced. For appliances like routers, field patching is a convenience, not a necessity.

Re:Recalls (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#28944705)

The memory is programmed and then soldered down. Good luck desoldering surface mount memory, reprogramming it, and resoldering it.

In actuality, pretty much everything with flash and made since the turn of the millenium has field-flashable memory, usually through an external interface, but often via JTAG. Sometimes it's just a connector with fingers, and sometimes there's even a pullup/pulldown/something resistor to enable the JTAG interface in the first place. I killed a SMC NAS device trying to enable JTAG once :) (I bricked it first)

Re:How much modification (1)

iperkins (974060) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940877)

Users of dd-wrt or Tomato beg to differ

Re:How much modification (1)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#28943311)

Uh ? You can upgrade IOS using the bootstrap program to load a new version from TFTP. It couldn't be easier to install a new OS unto a Cisco router/switch. Perhaps you mean that no one makes a general purpose OS for these devices ? No, because why would I want to run Linux when IOS does the job 10x better. For smaller Linksys based routers, you can change out VxWorks for Linux using things like dd-wrt or OpenWRT or Tomate. Again, it's changeable. The guy who said you need a HD is a dumb ass, and frankly, you're not much better.

Re:How much modification (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28939915)

Why wait? You can do it right now. Just run Linux and a Java VM... Wow, "Android"...

Re:How much modification (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28940047)

Except not really whatsoever.

Re:How much modification (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28944475)

Android is Linux running a Java VM with some Google code. That's all it is dumbass.

Re:How much modification (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28945131)

No, it isn't 'just' anything of the sort.

It's an extensively cut-down linux distribution, a substantially incompatible (cut down) libc implementation, a newly implemented OpenGL-ES-accelerated graphics layer and 2d graphics system, a completely different Java VM implementation (with an absolutely different Java VM and very different thread management properties) that lacks key common java libraries and has a substantially new framework built on top of it, and a telephony subsystem that is common to precisely no other linux devices.

If this is 'linux running a java vm with some google code', I think you're being a bit obtuse. Nothing will run out of the box, lots of things need quite a lot of effort to compile, standard java apps do not run without effort.

You don't get any substantial properties of Android by just running a Java VM on linux. That's not all it is.

You do get a Java VM on linux, mind you.

CAPTCHA: seethe. How very appropriate.

holy fuck! (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 4 years ago | (#28939903)

MIPS32 is different than x86? WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME!!@!@!>!@!!!!1!

Re:holy fuck! (2, Informative)

SpinyNorman (33776) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940335)

I guess the slashdot editors are just acknowledging the new slashdot demographic.

Of course it's have been better if they'd also noted that MIPS != ARM since ARM is what Android actually runs on.

Re:holy fuck! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28940471)

WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME!!@!@!>!@!!!!1!

Because you're a cunt.

Re:holy fuck! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28947241)

Hey mods, this is actually funny. See the nick of the parent.

Re:holy fuck! (1)

Icegryphon (715550) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940795)

We had a meeting about it,
Didn't you get the memo?

Re:holy fuck! (1)

rickb928 (945187) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940927)

"Google's Android software source code has been offered up for those looking to create applications on MIPS32 chips, which are different from Intel's x86 "

As if this has anything to do with anything. Android never ran on x86. Who cares...

Re:holy fuck! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28941111)

Umm, it does run on x86. live-android [google.com]

Android on x86 (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#28944533)

Android never ran on x86.

But it will. Read about a coming Acer laptop that dual-boots Android and Windows XP [engadget.com] .

Re:holy fuck! (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#28945069)

Android never ran on x86.

FAIL [androidx86.org]

Re:holy fuck! (1)

rickb928 (945187) | more than 4 years ago | (#28945485)

Of course it's alpha code, no promises by the team, WiFi doesn't work on the EE701, the only platform they've tried to install on, webkit doesn't work, etc.

'Running' seems to mean something different to you than to me. I want more than the Settings screen.

And I don't doubt it will get ported over. Just not useful right now. Not running' in any useable way.

But hopes up, boys, we'll just rip the Acer distro apart and do it all nice and clean.

Re:holy fuck! (1)

marcomarrero (521557) | more than 4 years ago | (#28946179)

I understand your pain... The x86 empire will always encounter a few rebel architectures. Luckily, there are new powerful weapons like the Atom-izer, and research on the Larrabee GPU (lots of simple x86s).

Most x86 CPUs emulate x86 code to keep the legacy alive... Long live the early 70's Datapoint/Intel 8008 instruction set!

Next its an Android in everyones Fridge (0, Flamebait)

phonewebcam (446772) | more than 4 years ago | (#28939927)

Its true, just bing "Android Fridge".
Pass the kool aid, Marvin, cos I for one submit to our new robotic overlords.

Re:Next its an Android in everyones Fridge (4, Funny)

jshackles (957031) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940177)

please go kill yourself for using "bing" as a verb

Re:Next its an Android in everyones Fridge (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28940403)

please go kill yourself for using "bing"

Fixed it brother.

Re:Next its an Android in everyones Fridge (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28951937)

one thing bing is quite good for is porn search

phonewebcam - Biggest Retard Ever On Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28940407)

Did you actually just try to use 'bing' as a verb like google?

What a total fucking loser!

Re:phonewebcam - Biggest Retard Ever On Slashdot (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28941193)

Welcome to MSFT's memetic embrace, extend and extinguish workshop.

Re:Next its an Android in everyones Fridge (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 4 years ago | (#28941051)

Mr Balmer, is that you?

Just one question for ya ... If I bing something, won't I end up squirting flying chairs or something?

Re:Next its an Android in everyones Fridge (1)

default luser (529332) | more than 4 years ago | (#28941779)


Mr Balmer, is that you?

Just one question for ya ... If I bing something, won't I end up squirting flying chairs or something?

Not if you use protection [gizmodo.com] !

A Zune Condom is always the right call!

Re:Next its an Android in everyones Fridge (1)

phonewebcam (446772) | more than 4 years ago | (#28941635)

Heh - thats caught 5 so far and counting ;-) Any others just go yahoo "sarcasm".

Re:Next its an Android in everyones Fridge (1)

BrettJB (64947) | more than 4 years ago | (#28943633)

Err... shouldn't that be microhoo, or yahsoft?

Re:Next its an Android in everyones Fridge (4, Funny)

Tetsujin (103070) | more than 4 years ago | (#28942739)

Its true, just bing "Android Fridge".

I didn't know what "bing" means so I had to google it...

Re:Next its an Android in everyones Fridge (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28943539)

I hope you're serious.

Re:Next its an Android in everyones Fridge (1)

mgblst (80109) | more than 4 years ago | (#28949631)

This is what I got when I googled it:

It can mean anything like a doorbell when it rings, or a name of a club, or a abbreviation.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_bing_bing_mean [answers.com]

So should we ring the fridge, or club it to death?

Re:Next its an Android in everyones Fridge (1)

jasonwea (598696) | more than 4 years ago | (#28951131)

Googling with Bing [collegehumor.com]

x86? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28939933)

x86? Android phones are ARM, aren't they, not x86? It's all linux kernel so it's ported to hell and back, I can't see this being a problem and wonder why is isn't already done.

PSP is MIPS (2, Informative)

sjf (3790) | more than 4 years ago | (#28939995)

Hmm. Interesting

PSP has a lockout chip (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940241)

The Sony PSP firmware uses digital signatures to reject unapproved applications, including all applications developed by students and hobbyists. Jailbreaks are fragile, often not working on the new firmware version installed on a new retail system or the new firmware version installed by a game. How would Android help?

Re:PSP has a lockout chip (1)

chuckymonkey (1059244) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940435)

You're missing the point. If you install Android on it, you are effectively making it not a PSP gaming system anymore. You would not be able to play the games on it. You could however use all the hardware for Android based games, and do whatever it is that Android does. Installing custom firmware is not as delicate a process as you seem to think either, I've been using it since 2.52 with no problems at all. I also do not think that it would be all that hard to do this either, there are several PSP firmwares out there that are completely custom with minimal to no Sony code in them. Check PSP hacks if you would like to learn a little more about it.

Re:PSP has a lockout chip (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940581)

Installing custom firmware is not as delicate a process as you seem to think either, I've been using it since 2.52 with no problems at all.

If you buy a PSP new in box today, you have to wait an indefinite amount of time for an effective jailbreak to appear so that you can install custom firmware. And even then, you could go to jail if you don't have the money to emigrate from the United States before you start modding PSPs; see this submission [slashdot.org] .

Re:PSP has a lockout chip (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940627)

Intent matters here. "A Southern California college student has been arrested on federal charges that he illegally modified video game consoles to enable the machines to play pirated video games."

This is different from saying "A Southern California college student has been arrested on federal charges that he illegally modified video game consoles"

Re:PSP has a lockout chip (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940825)

Intent matters here.

Please read my comment to the submission [slashdot.org] . There aren't enough details to discern the definition of "pirated" that the article is using.

Re:PSP has a lockout chip (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940957)

Perhaps. Personally I think it's quite plausible that he just wanted to play homebrew games, but there's at least reason to believe that that piracy was his motivation. And we don't know what he actually did because the article is so short on details. It's quite likely that he was offering a service to modify a large number of consoles, and explicitly stating that this was to allow them to run pirate games.

It just doesn't seem compelling enough to convince me that I'd be busted for installing Android on a PSP.

Re:PSP has a lockout chip (1)

Nursie (632944) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940747)

What?

The jailbreaks on the first model and the "Thin 'n' Light" (PSP2000?) are rock solid and bust wide open, using the built in service mode. Hell, the one I have can even reboot to stock firmware so that downloaded content can work.

Now, android might not help, but getting android on to the PS might well be possible. What the point would be is another question I'd ask.

Re:PSP has a lockout chip (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940787)

The jailbreaks on the [PSP-1000 and PSP-2000 series] are rock solid and bust wide open, using the built in service mode.

Those models are no longer manufactured.

Re:PSP is MIPS (1)

AndrewNeo (979708) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940243)

Why was this modded redundant? This should be Interesting, if nothing else. A nice screen, wifi, removable storage, hardware accelerated media playback..

Re:PSP is MIPS (2, Insightful)

EnglishTim (9662) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940543)

... and no touchscreen...

Re:PSP is MIPS (1)

AndrewNeo (979708) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940785)

The Eee 701 doesn't have a touchscreen either, but Android was ported to it.

Re:PSP is MIPS (3, Interesting)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940895)

It does have a keyboard though. No keyboard and no touch screen makes for an input challenge.

Re:PSP is MIPS (1)

AndrewNeo (979708) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940959)

That, is a very good point. Though people using the PSP are used to the on-screen keyboard, that might prove more of an impediment to Android.

Re:PSP is MIPS (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 4 years ago | (#28941305)

and no touchscreen ...

You forgot

... Lame!

Re:PSP is MIPS (1)

bhima (46039) | more than 4 years ago | (#28941391)

And the PSP has been out for quite some time... is that the most recent consumer device to use a MIPS32? Or are there devices which could compete with the upcoming ARM based devices?

Yippee-kai-yay! (1)

happy_place (632005) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940037)

Surfing the web with my toaster is all the closer! Can't wait til the microwave gets a virus and starts spamming government sites. Soon the meat compartment in my fridge will hold spam and will spam me with ads that it thinks I'll want... The future's so bright...

Re:Yippee-kai-yay! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28940143)

Just wait until flexible electronics become commercially viable, and your condom runs android and begins reading penis enlargement SPAM aloud to you during sex!

Re:Yippee-kai-yay! (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940379)

That's why I ride bareback.

Re:Yippee-kai-yay! (1)

amoeba1911 (978485) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940721)

one day you'll open the fridge and spam will tumble out.

Thanks so much for the explanations (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28940315)

As a regular slashdot reader and geek I otherwise really wouldn't know what MIPS32 means. Maybe I should post another how-do-I-do-my-job question for `ask slashdot'? I'll fit right in!

Re:Thanks so much for the explanations (1)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#28943403)

Instead of expecting the answer in the summary or article, you could, you know, look it up. That's if you have access to the Internet or something, I hear there's lots of information on that network.

Re:Thanks so much for the explanations (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28944271)

Huh? How do I do that? Oh, I know, I ask slashdot!

Why MIPS Matters (4, Informative)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#28940987)

MIPS used to be the architecture that companies like SGI used for their high-end workstations. It was also briefly used in a few handheld systems. A few years ago, however, the Chinese government decided that they didn't want to have their information infrastructure relying on foreign-designed and (often) foreign-manufactured CPUs. They created the Longsoon project to design a home-grown CPU. The ISA that they chose to implement is MIPS (little-endian variant). The latest versions are full MIPS64 implementations and are reasonably low power (think Atom, not ARM). They are also very, very, cheap. Laptops containing them are on the market now and are much cheaper than their Atom equivalents. The next version, due in the next few months, is expected to draw 10W for four 1.2GHz cores.

The 2F, which is currently the version shipping in cheap laptops, is fabbed on a very old process technology (two generations behind the Atom) but still manages to give decent performance per Watt. It will be interesting to see how quickly the Chinese catch up with the fabrication technology and how they improve the design in the next few years. It's also worth noting that the 3 series has a load of extra instructions that make it easy to emulate x86 and the published benchmarks show x86 code running in QEMU on the pre-release chips runs at around 70% of the speed of native MIPS code. Even if it's only 50%, that's probably enough for a lot of legacy apps.

Re:Why MIPS Matters (1)

Bob The Cowboy (308954) | more than 4 years ago | (#28941917)

[citation needed]

Not because I don't believe you or think you're wrong, but because I haven't seen anything of the sort reported and I'm actually curious. I've only read about MIPS laptop and it wasn't much differently priced from its x86 brethren.

Re:Why MIPS Matters (3, Informative)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#28942301)

Which bit do you want a citation for? The wikipedia page on Loongson [wikipedia.org] contains a lot of relevant citations at the bottom - and would have been your first hit if you'd bothered to Google. The people who I know who have bought them paid under 200 Euros, which is a fair bit less than the cheapest x86 laptops I've seen.

Re:Why MIPS Matters (1)

Bob The Cowboy (308954) | more than 4 years ago | (#28942643)

Ahhh, my apologies. Yeah, I know about the Loongson. What I was wondering is where you can buy these Atom-comparable Loongson laptops. Glancing at the bottom of the Wiki page you linked to, only two companies have claimed to sell these (outside of China). One turned out to be a scam, and the other is the one I'd heard of which doesn't appear to actually be selling anything yet (and when it does is estimated at almost 400 Euros). So where are you seeing them?

Re:Why MIPS Matters (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#28942903)

I'm not seeing them, but people working on an open source project I contribute to are buying them in Germany and sending me MIPS-related bug reports.

Re:Why MIPS Matters (1)

josath (460165) | more than 4 years ago | (#28947757)

The original eeepc netbook (x86) was $250 at launch two years ago, so I wouldn't say 200 euros (almost $300 USD) is a fair bit less. I've seen one or two of those MIPS netbooks online, and they were very cheap, however they seem pretty under-powered compared to the currently available x86 netbooks. Something like 20% less cost but 50% less performance/ram/storage.

Re:Why MIPS Matters (1)

kriston (7886) | more than 4 years ago | (#28943591)

MIPS32 was not "briefly" used for handheld devices. Not everything is ARM, you know.

Re:Why MIPS Matters (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#28946289)

Can you name ten handheld devices that are currently shipping with MIPS processors? I can easily list a few that were discontinued 5+ years ago, but apart from the new Longsoon I'd be hard-pressed to name any apart from the PSP that ship now. In contrast, I could easily name dozens of ARM-based handhelds.

There was a time when any reasonable handheld would have a SuperH, ARM or MIPS chip but now the vast majority have ARM, although Longsoon may well change this in a year or so. I haven't seen a SuperH device for ages, and it appears that they don't go much over 200MHz even today. I was hoping someone like TI would take the S1 [wikipedia.org] core and make a SPARCv9 SoC and avoid the ARM license fees, but it doesn't seem to have happened.

Hopefully (1)

ivoras (455934) | more than 4 years ago | (#28942921)

Hopefully, since Android uses a java-like VM scheme, application would "just work" independently of the underlying hardware.

Just Works (1)

OrangeTide (124937) | more than 4 years ago | (#28943113)

you still have to port the VM and its subsystems. Just working is a bit over optimistic in my personal experience of switch architectures. Some one had to put in a fair bit of effort to make it happen.

Re:Just Works (1)

ivoras (455934) | more than 4 years ago | (#28945627)

Yeah but it would be kind of lame to claim to "port Android" and then not port the VM :)

Re:Just Works (1)

OrangeTide (124937) | more than 4 years ago | (#28950109)

Heh! Fair enough. And the Darvik VM doesn't have JIT, porting that is still a black art.

Re:Hopefully (1)

Tom Rini (680) | more than 4 years ago | (#28943117)

Android apps are Java, and allow for JNI. So the answer is that yes, non-JNI using apps work just fine. In the future, JNI using apps could work so long as native libraries are provided for all hardware architectures that are supported (today there's a hardcoded armeabi reference in the loader).

Necessity (1)

kriston (7886) | more than 4 years ago | (#28943551)

This was done out of necessity. There are thousands of new devices coming out of Asia that are MIPS32 and tens of thousands already available. Not only are they handheld phones, smartbooks, netbooks, notebooks, and there are game systems like the Dingoo A320.

There are even desktop home computers. In China, the intention is that the indiginouos Loongson CPU, also known as Godson or Dragon CPU, would supplant Intel/Microsoft systems in China. Loongson is a MIPS32 chip.

Re:Necessity (2, Informative)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#28946415)

Loongson is a MIPS32 chip

Only the old ones. The new ones (Loongson 2, 500MHz+) are all MIPS64.

Re:Necessity (1)

kriston (7886) | more than 4 years ago | (#28958231)

Yes I left that out, sorry.
The multicore high-speed chips are going to be a sea-change for computing in Asia.

where are the phones? (1)

sucati (611768) | more than 4 years ago | (#28948243)

I'm growing tired of hearing about android when they only have one phone available in the US. how about no more android news until they release a new phone. deal? ok thanks

Re:where are the phones? (1)

mgblst (80109) | more than 4 years ago | (#28949919)

Seriously, just skip the story. I am not interested in the Wii, I could click on every story and tell everyone, or I could do what a non-fuckhead would do and skip the story.

Re:where are the phones? (1)

sucati (611768) | more than 4 years ago | (#28951239)

hey fuckface, thanks for responding. actually I'm quite interested in Android, yet frustrated in the lack of phones.

Re:where are the phones? (1)

mjwx (966435) | more than 4 years ago | (#28950295)

I'm growing tired of hearing about android when they only have one phone available in the US.

US != the world.

Kindly get over yourself.

The UK has three (HTC Magic, HTC Dream, Samsung I7500), Europe has 2 (HTC Dream, HTC Magic) and Australia has two (HTC Dream, HTC Magic) with the HTC Hero being introduced this month.

Re:where are the phones? (1)

sucati (611768) | more than 4 years ago | (#28951317)

yes, I'm quite aware of your bountiful phone selection. strangely your british phones don't do anything for me. you get android phones first, we get cars for about half the cost. I guess it all evens out in the end.

Re:where are the phones? (2, Informative)

mjwx (966435) | more than 4 years ago | (#28951519)

yes, I'm quite aware of your bountiful phone selection. strangely your british phones don't do anything for me. you get android phones first, we get cars for about half the cost. I guess it all evens out in the end.

Thats OK, you can have slightly cheaper motor vehicles, we'd rather have a healthy banking system and stable economy.

Also I'm Australian you drongo, we haven't had to bail out a single company.

Re:where are the phones? (1)

JustJenFelice (1434543) | more than 4 years ago | (#28960359)

I'm growing tired of hearing about android when they only have one phone available in the US. how about no more android news until they release a new phone. deal? ok thanks

FAIL [androidcommunity.com]

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