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"Terminator Vision" Is Here For the iPhone

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the old-hat-to-thad-starner dept.

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musefrog writes "The BBC is reporting that so-called augmented reality has arrived — in the UK at least. From the article: 'Via the video function of a mobile phone's camera it is now possible to combine a regular pictorial view with added data from the internet just as the fictional Terminator was able to overlay its view of the world with vital information about its surroundings. For example, UK-firm Acrossair has launched an application for the iPhone which allows Londoners to find their nearest tube station using their iPhone.' The page features an impressive video demonstrating AR in action."

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I'll be first... (-1, Offtopic)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024129)

are you Shara Connor?

That's great, but I can't use it on my Linux box (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29024151)

I just installed Linux and can't get anything to work. How do you get a scanner going? Help slashdotters!

Re:That's great, but I can't use it on my Linux bo (5, Funny)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024285)

Linux runs on blood... You must make a blood sacrifice... Slit your wrists and repeat after me...

All hail master Torvalds, I offer up my life blood to you O great and powerful Master. I, a humble troll, ask only that you find it in your dark heart to grant me the power! The power to scan one last fury fandom so as to complete my life's work.

Then wait 15 to 60 minutes for the source(tm) to recompile...

Important, do not call paramedic during this time or the compiler will fail and you will have to start over.

Don't worry if you die before the compiler finishes. Linux will simple restore you from the tarball file stored in /dev/null

Re:That's great, but I can't use it on my Linux bo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29024509)

Microsoft tech support?

Re:That's great, but I can't use it on my Linux bo (0, Troll)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024707)

No, but all your bases belonging to us now.... Karma Kabooom!

Re:I'll be first... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29024633)

Should that be spoken in a Sean Connery voice? "Yesh, I'm looking for a Shara Connor. It's Bond, Jamesh Bond."

Re: Krama KABOOOOM! (1)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024737)

Should that be spoken in a Sean Connery voice?

MAAAAAAACLOUD!!!!

Re:I'll be first... (2, Funny)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025051)

Alex Trebek! [wikipedia.org] You bloody wanker, it's not offtopic and I'll kick your limie ahss next time...

Overlay source code? (5, Funny)

nacturation (646836) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024133)

Does the Terminator vision for the iPhone also overlay Apple II assembly code [pagetable.com] ?

Re:Overlay source code? (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024407)

Well, that explains why he failed.

Re:Overlay source code? (2, Interesting)

musikit (716987) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024485)

can someone photoshop up an apple logo crossed with a terminator head (like terminator 4 did with the city) so we can use that for apple stories since we use the borg for MS stories.

that way you can choose your cyborgic death.

Re:Overlay source code? (1)

Verdatum (1257828) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024701)

Cyborgic death? Sounds Swedish.

Re:Overlay source code? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29024959)

Nej, det gÃr det inte. Fittben.

Re:Overlay source code? (1)

networkz (27842) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024599)

The comments on that page are amusing.

Check out the Amiga conspiracy nut going off on one. Excellent!

Re:Overlay source code? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29024857)

It is kind of sad but understandable that Amiga fans maintain a grudge. The Amiga was far ahead of its time, then slowly fell behind for no apparent reason other than being perceived as a game computer. For example: Apple's Mac OS didn't offer preemptive multitasking until Mac OS X. The Amiga had it from the get go in 1985. The Amiga had hardware supported virtual screens with independent resolutions and color modes, etc. etc.

Re:Overlay source code? (1)

jDeepbeep (913892) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024911)

The comments on that page are amusing.

Check out the Amiga conspiracy nut going off on one. Excellent!

Indeed. Vaxboy is by far the most interesting contributor to those comments.

Re:Overlay source code? (1)

nobodylocalhost (1343981) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025157)

I am disappointed that nobody referenced to "Eden of the East" or "Dennou Coil". Why does it always have to be terminator/matrix references?

Hud? (3, Interesting)

Cpt_Kirks (37296) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024149)

WHEN will we have a practical HUD or other type of head mounted display?

They always seem to be "almost ready". Frankly, I am ready to be a Gargoyle.

Re:Hud? (1)

wjsteele (255130) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024227)

Like this one for airplanes? VirtualHUD [virtualhud.com]

Bill

Re:Hud? (2, Interesting)

Cpt_Kirks (37296) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024311)

More of a head mounted display. For years (decades?) there have been a stream of funky helmets and various types of modified eyeglass and goggle type gadgets. They always seem to be "coming out next year", but then, the company folds.

Is there really no demand for these? Other than me...

Re:Hud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29024377)

More of a head mounted display. For years (decades?) there have been a stream of funky helmets and various types of modified eyeglass and goggle type gadgets. They always seem to be "coming out next year", but then, the company folds.

Is there really no demand for these? Other than me...

It's primarily just being used by the military in things like helicopters and advanced fighter jets. Ends up being pretty expensive.

Re:Hud? (1)

Darkeye11547 (889506) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024995)

I can't possibly imagine that there would be less demand for head mounted displays than other more geeky stuff like NAS boxes. I mean, the MYVU stuff sells pretty well, even though it's a low-resolution piece of junk that costs something like $200.

Re:Hud? (5, Informative)

wjsteele (255130) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024927)

There are three basic problems with HMD style displays.

1.) Single eye solutions confuse the brain after a short period of time. The brain tries to correlate both eyes input and can't, so it starts dropping information. That causes tremendous problems because the brain doesn't know which information is appropriate to drop. Using a two-eye HMD solves that problem.

2.) The other problem is that the brain is very perceptive of information that doesn't actually coorelate to the real world. Think about an artifical horizon that doesn't quite keep up to speed with the real horizon that the pilot sees. That slight delay error will cause problems for the pilot similar to the above, where the brain quits using and relying on that information.

3.) The last problem is the biggest. How do you get an image focused at infinity. The traditional way is to use fancy optics to lengthen the path from the emitter to the eye to make it appear that the image is beyond 6' or so. Getting that done is very tricky and bulky. Just putting an image on the lens isn't enough... it must be presented in such a way that they pilot has a reduced work load (on the eye muscles) so that it is not a tiring experience.

I see that VirtualHUD as quite an innovative solution for that problem because, 1.) it's aready presented to both eyes simultaneously and 2.) it's focused at infinity (or darn close to it) by default. Generally the propeller is already far enough away from the pilot.

Bill

Re:Hud? (1)

cheros (223479) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024387)

Amusingly appropriate to display a plane HUD on an internal propeller :-)

Re:Hud? (5, Insightful)

nine-times (778537) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024453)

It seems to me that the real hindrance is in getting a transparent display into a set of glasses. By this, I don't mean getting a bulky display mounted on the outside of a set of glasses, but in getting a transparent display built directly into the lenses, such that when the display is turned off, it's just a set of glasses.

I think we'll start to see real products once we can build both those sorts of lenses and a camera into a set of glasses, and not have them be too ridiculously heavy, bulky, and ugly. Also, it can't be too expensive.

People keep saying it's "almost ready" because there are practical and functional HUDs, but they all require this bulky machinery to be strapped to your head in a way that looks stupid. For geeks or specialized purposes (e.g. soldiers in combat, who are carrying heavy equipment anyway and care more about functionality than looks) that's all fine. But it won't be productized until people can walk down the street wearing them and still look cool.

Re:Hud? (1)

noundi (1044080) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024669)

People keep saying it's "almost ready" because there are practical and functional HUDs, but they all require this bulky machinery to be strapped to your head in a way that looks stupid.

This was almost ten years ago. [bbc.co.uk]

Re: Glasses too clunky (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29025159)

When I have an overlay display on disposable contacts, it's ready. Before then, forget it.

Re:Hud? (1)

Bandman (86149) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024775)

The trick will be to do it like Cadillac did with the deer-sensor (http://www.vxm.com/Impact.cadillac.nitevision.html), and reflect it onto the lenses, and still make it so that the person can see it, despite their focus being well past the lens.

Re:Hud? (1)

MartinSchou (1360093) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025057)

You can get a long way towards the goal with OLED displays. I've posted about that before.

You can get OLED displays that are flexible as well as partly transparent, so you've already built the display into the glasses. Obviously compute functionality needs to be elsewhere, as you don't want to have too much weight hanging on your ears and nose. The DPI probably needs to increase on them as well, before they get really good.

As for how to see what is being displayed without removing your focus from the 'background', that's beyond my own knowledge, but I wouldn't be surprised if you can either use some kind of infinite focus trick (like with BoCode [bbc.co.uk] , where what is displayed on screen is out of focus if you look at it, but looking 'through' it puts it into focus. Obviously that'd require that your compute device knows where you're looking, but we already have technology for that. Not sure about the size though.

I'm completely with you on the "looks stupid" point of view. First of all, it needs to be see-through. The ones that blocks out your direct view of the outside world ruin your peripheral vision. Personally I wouldn't want to walk down the street wearing a pair of these [ubergizmo.com]

They don't have to be stylish, just don't make me look like an idiot. A pair of decent safety glasses would work nicely as a building block, as they're designed to handle high stresses without breaking. And as such they're usually designed to keep from ruining your ears and nose and thus rather comfortable.

Re:Hud? (4, Interesting)

just fiddling around (636818) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025075)

I can't currently find a better link than wikipedia, but there is a class of HUDs that are called "Visual retinal displays [wikipedia.org] " that project the HUD info on the retina of the wearer. I have read about a system that uses a very low power laser and a micro-mirror to paint on the retina; the system can be integrated in the glasses' branches. Of course, there is still a need for control hardware somewhere, but it can be remote (ex.: on the hip)

Re:Hud? (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024501)

I'd like to see more HUDs in cars, honestly, if they can pair that with some head movement or something, it would

Re:Hud? (1)

Tink2000 (524407) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024653)

Do you think he could have mean, 'Camaaaauuuuggghhhh'?

Re:Hud? (4, Funny)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024763)

And this, people, is why we don't put HUDs in cars.

Darkness404, you will be missed, after your untimely demise in a car accident. If only you hadn't been distracted by slashdot on your HUD, you might be here today with us...

Re:Hud? (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025139)

Well, everything you need for this, exists. The only question is how good it works.

You need:
* GPS
* Accelerometer
* Camera
* graphics processor
* internet connection
* mapping software
* panorama software
* database to store geolocations with gps position in 3d space

That's it. All of that works right now. You can start now and program that HUD yourself.

The only problems right now, are expensive mobile internet connections and the bad resolution of GPS, which can only get 3 meters with A-GPS, and 10 m without.
I know, because I'm already working on a large project for something, that will beat the shit out of the app presented in the video. :)

Re:Hud? (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025149)

There are resolution issues with anything that is a display (hold your finger up to your eye about where the lens of a pair of glasses would be and try to focus on it; the apparent resolution of the display will be limited by this, combined with the size of the display). I guess drawing on the retina with some lasers wouldn't have that problem, but that seems scarier.

Classic Cyberpunk (1)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024215)

What was the name of the story where the guy stumbled upon a pair of sunglasses that showed the plans for some Asian conglomerate to rebuild a city? (L.A. I think?) I don't know if it was a novel or part of a collection. I'm leaning towards collection - and included was a story about a guy being chased by some killing machine thing that moved slowly but never stopped so he always had to stay on the move. Others were typical cyberpunk stuff - I'm googling away but can't track it down.

Re:Classic Cyberpunk (4, Informative)

Anonymusing (1450747) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024323)

You thinking of Gibson's Virtual Light [wikipedia.org] ?

Re:Classic Cyberpunk (1)

Sir_Lewk (967686) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024545)

I believe the short story that you're refering too is part of Accelerando [wikipedia.org] . The part that always stood out best in my mind was the motorized combat boots the one guy had, and the sentient lobsters that acted as computers or something...

I remember it being in a collection entitled something like "Best Sci-Fi of 2004" (or something to that effect, forget the year too) Good story though :)

Re:Classic Cyberpunk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29024561)

What was the name of the story where the guy stumbled upon a pair of sunglasses that showed the plans for some Asian conglomerate to rebuild a city?

Someone posted 'Virtual Light', which sounds right, but you should check out Charles Stross' "Tourist" - a chapter in Accelerando (which is a free download), for an interesting take on how we're starting to augment our memory and mind.

And Gibson's recent "Spook Country" involves augmented reality, too.

Re:Classic Cyberpunk (1)

Darkeye11547 (889506) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025059)

I'm a big fan of Accelerando as well, but only the first section had people wandering around with goggles strapped to their heads and computers on their belts. By the second section, everything got internalized and the main character from the first section was a throwback that didn't want to upgrade from goggles to a neural net. And frankly, the idea that everyone would be happy wandering around with a fat computer sucked onto their face is the most fictional part about that book.

Cameras with face recognition? (1, Interesting)

samkass (174571) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024229)

My camera has been able to do this for a few years. People's faces have white boxes around them that move with the scene.

Admittedly this brings it to a whole new level, being almost an augmented reality API. And that's where the power here lies... putting a general-purpose computing device capable of it into people's hands and an SDK that makes it easy into developers hands will make it take off. And hey, Apple is finally starting to open up the docking port (which has video-out) to software tie-in so maybe a HUD isn't far off either.

Re:Cameras with face recognition? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29024645)

No, this doesn't "bring it to a whole new level". Google's Android has been able to do this using the Enkin application [enkin.net] for well over a year now...

If this is "augmented reality", then it's already long since arrived - and iPhone users are just late to catch up.

Re:Cameras with face recognition? (1)

PaintyThePirate (682047) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024815)

Note that face recognition is a significantly harder task than face detection, which is what most modern high end point and shoots are capable of. Recognition means identifying who each face belongs to.

Anyway, while the summary only mentions the iPhone, TFA is actually about AR on phones in general.

Supplementary Brain? (3, Insightful)

neonprimetime (528653) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024241)

Eventually, it seems possible that mobile phones might play the role of a kind of supplementary brain - Toshinao Sasaki

I think it would have the opposite effect, and make a generation of cell phone users even dumber.

Re:Supplementary Brain? (4, Insightful)

MrMista_B (891430) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024431)

I think that using tools makes people smarter, not dumber.

Unpopular opinion on slashdot, I know, but I just don't know why.

Re:Supplementary Brain? (4, Insightful)

Zakabog (603757) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024541)

I think that using tools makes people smarter, not dumber.

Smarter in that they know how to use the tools. Dumber in that they don't know how to get by without them.

Re:Supplementary Brain? (3, Insightful)

timeOday (582209) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024975)

The whole progression of mankind is based on increasing specialization - that is, increasing interdependence on each other, because no person alive actually understands all the steps of producing all the technology we use every single day. For better or worse, this trend is unlikely to reverse.

Re:Supplementary Brain? (1)

imakemusic (1164993) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024987)

Actually I've learned a lot since I've had a mobile phone. Such as a variety of abreviations, like "lol" and "rofl". Also, I now know how to convey feelings using only punctuation. For example this shows I am happy :)

I feel that if I keep using my phone as I do may end up being able to convey meaning without even using any vowels.

Re:Supplementary Brain? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29024999)

I think that using tools makes people smarter, not dumber.

Unpopular opinion on slashdot, I know, but I just don't know why.

Old saying - "A fool with a tool is still a fool".

Re:Supplementary Brain? (1)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025221)

I think that depends on the tool, it's function, the level of understanding of the user, and the definition of "smart" and "dumb."

Using a calculator to do division very easily and quickly, but not knowing how to do it by hand and having to use a calculator yourself does not make you "smarter."

It can allow you to do smarter things, but making it easier does not necessarily make you smarter. It allows for progression, but does not necessitate it. Sliderules didn't make anyone smarter, either.

I think the real issue is how we define "smarter." If "smart" means "able to do it but not necessarily understand what is happening," then yeah. If smart means "understand what is happening," then someone who uses a sliderule and has no clue how to use a graphing calculator can be just as smart. I think that's more what people mean with "smart" and "dumb." Using google to find answers is efficient and is "smart" in a way, but doesn't make you knowledgeable in a field... IMO, "able to find the answer" and "knowledgeable" have the same fundamental difference as "able to do something" and "smart."

Re:Supplementary Brain? (1)

digitalsushi (137809) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025095)

it depends on whether you count the brain as the whole, or the brain plus the augment as the whole.

GUI for a map. (4, Insightful)

gurps_npc (621217) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024273)

That's all this really is - a fancy, visual Graphical User Interface, for a map.

That is not an insult, it is a compliment. The best ideas are usually simple at heart.

Re:GUI for a map. (1)

BenihanaX (1405543) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024401)

Would you also call a GPS (the direction-giving kind) a fancy interface for a map? You might be correct but that distinction has little benefit, like calling a motorcycle a motor vehicle.

Re:GUI for a map. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29025063)

I think that the GP think at something like seeing a building trough the iPhone, using the GPS and compass, make it point an arrow to that building and write "This is where you can buy food".

May have some interesting applications, but nothing revolutionary.

Re:GUI for a map. (1)

musefrog (1471169) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024525)

Yes, a map that apparently uses the iPhone's internal compass to orient it. Which means you can only use it on the new 3G iPhone.

Re:GUI for a map. (2, Insightful)

genner (694963) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025115)

That's all this really is - a fancy, visual Graphical User Interface, for a map.

That is not an insult, it is a compliment. The best ideas are usually simple at heart.

Exactly. The sad part is it would work just as well without the real-time video overlay. There's no practical need for this tech it's just looks cool.

Youtube Link / mirror (3, Informative)

timeOday (582209) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024321)

The BBC video doesn't seem to work for me - I think this [youtube.com] is the same.

Re:Youtube Link / mirror (1)

musefrog (1471169) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024571)

Yeah, the same tech, different video. Horrible clipped audio though!

Launched or not? (4, Informative)

BenihanaX (1405543) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024349)

The article says it has launched.
The summary says it has launched.
The Acrossair page says they need beta testers.
The app page (on the Acrossair site) says it will launch when Apple approves it.

Does anyone know which is correct? I tend to believe it has already launched since the article and summary corroborate.

Perhaps someone on the other side of the water could try to pull it up in the iTunes store.

Re:Launched or not? (1)

CmdrSammo (1086973) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024435)

Not launched yet, the app "Nearest Tube" is awaiting Apple approval...

Re:Launched or not? (1)

IndieKid (1061106) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024507)

I wonder if the delay is caused by the fact this will only work properly on a 3GS, since other iPhones don't include a compass. I'm not aware of any apps that require a specific model of iPhone (or even iPod Touch) at the moment despite the hardware differences.

Re:Launched or not? (1)

Verdatum (1257828) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024771)

I wonder if the delay is caused by the fact that this article is hype that invokes concepts like a Terminator style overlay in hopes of being Slashdotted.

Re:Launched or not? (1)

prestomation (583502) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024805)

There are plenty of apps that won't install on my 1G Touch because they "Require features not available"

I'm assuming they make a similar distinction between 3G/3GS

OS 3.1 API in Beta (2, Interesting)

geomobile (1312099) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025039)

This is done with an API method that is only available in iPhone OS 3.1 which is still in Beta. Consequently the App cannot be officially published in the App Store.

There'll be a whole wave of Apps using this as soon as 3.1 is finally released.

Oh, of course we're working on something, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGq69Nyi6p0 [youtube.com] . Not as fancy yet, but it has spaceships.

Please Stop. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29024397)

Is there any particular reason that we receive daily updates on all the crap Iphones can do? I can sum the device up in one short sentence "It does cool crap." Now can we please get some articles that aren't Iphone related?

Camera? (5, Informative)

RalphSleigh (899929) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024399)

Zoe Kleinman tries out Acrossair's software that uses a phone's camera to tell you where the nearest London Underground station is.

It's using the phones GPS, compass and accelerometers to decide what to draw on the screen, NOT the camera, if you watch the video the bloke even says as much. Mush more impressive would be applications that can use what the camera sees by reading text/barcodes or recognising objects and combining it with GPS and internet data to offer more infomation on the world around us.

Re:Camera? (4, Interesting)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024437)

Yes, this, exactly. You could turn the camera off and overlay the same data over a blank screen, and it would make no difference.

Its a fine app, but not nearly 'augmented reality', at least not by way of a camera or in the way depicted in the film.

Re:Camera? (1)

XcepticZP (1331217) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024503)

Good luck doing ALL of that using any processor that is currently put into any smartphone.

Re:Camera? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29024619)

Won't somebody think of the cloud?? Do all the heavy processing away from the device and the only thing the device needs to be able to do is show it saving enormous power.

Re:Camera? (1)

Verdatum (1257828) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024817)

GPS, Compass, and Accelerometers combined are only a few bytes of data. Crunching the numbers to result in Forward/Left/Right fast enough to update once or twice a second doesn't sound too hard...

Would be cool for SatNav (1)

IndieKid (1061106) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024467)

I want to see a SatNav application for the iPhone that makes use of AR.

I imagine mounting my iPhone on my dashboard with the camera pointing forwards and having the driving directions, road names/numbers, driving statistics etc superimposed over the top of the live images.

This is probably unrealistic at the moment due to hardware limitations (sampling rate for the built in GPS, compass etc) but I'm sure we'll get there one day. It's probably more realistic that TomTom or similar will come out with a SatNav that includes a camera for this purpose.

Re:Would be cool for SatNav (1)

sensationull (889870) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024823)

Get an Android phone then, this kind of stuff would work on your iPhone if Apple actually allowed it on its app store. They just don't want you to have it yet, how cool of them is that???

Kind of wish this was in the videos but... (1)

Zakabog (603757) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024505)

I watched the video in TFA and another video of the same app on youtube [youtube.com] , and in both videos the iphone is moved very slowly. What happens if you turn quickly? Does the app completely lose it's place and heading? I would imagine most people wouldn't want to turn that slowly if they wanted to know where the subway behind them was.

Re:Kind of wish this was in the videos but... (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025069)

Apparently it relies in a compass in the device, so my guess is it would regain its bearings even after a rapid turn. The accelerometers in the iPhone are way too crude for inertial navigation so I can't imagine it's based on that.

Oh come on.. (1)

jmerlin (1010641) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024517)

looks like just some fancy GPS and orientation coding (and that's kindof iffy, the overlays slide when you pan the view). What's so "terminator"ish about this?

Re:Oh come on.. (1)

CoFran (1593989) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024629)

yup nothing short of it, there's no analysis of any kind, just user submitted info.

Re:Oh come on.. (1)

Verdatum (1257828) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024847)

Geeks like terminator. Invoke it and be popular on teh slashdot.

Re:Oh come on.. (1)

musefrog (1471169) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024945)

Well, you could always use the similar, launching-at-the-same-time TwittAround to hunt down and slaughter Twitter users... that's pretty terminator-ish.

The only thing that would save them is stopping tweeting, then moving location... but how likely is that?!

Source http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/07/twitters-enters-meatspace-the-end-is-nigh/ [wired.com]

can the iphone get any stupider? (1)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024551)

n/t

Re:can the iphone get any stupider? (2, Funny)

Fross (83754) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025023)

Only if used to view your post on /.

Heh. (2, Insightful)

Cpt_Kirks (37296) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024553)

Best use of "Terminator Vision": Picking the right reply.

"Say, buddy, ya got a dead cat in there?"

(Decision List...)

"Fuck you, asshole."

Re:Heh. (1)

kerrbear (163235) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024803)

> (Decision List...)

Even funnier was that I believe the original quote of the landlord was:

"...you got a dead cat in there, or what?"

And one of the response choices on the list was "Or what."

Halting State (1)

martijnd (148684) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024557)

Plenty of cool applications to think off; the race is on to build the first Netscape of Augmented Reality, and then we can all quickly build a whole new World Wide Web.

When visiting a new town just Google for a suitable set of layers.

Tube stations, Tourist information (with guided tours), traffic, dating (heh! I'm available).... i'm sure that is just the beginning.

Coincidently I Just finished reading Halting State (Charles Cross) [amazon.com] -- set in Edinburgh 2017 AR was already standard -- in fact the protagonist had difficulty imagining not being able to know where she was all the time.

Re:Halting State (1)

Darkeye11547 (889506) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025101)

I'd like to imagine Vernor Vinge's "Rainbows End" would be a better version of AR layering.

One sale now (1)

Faux_Pseudo (141152) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024641)

Is anyone else seeing this as a way for shopers to find out were the sales are happening? Either on the street or even in a store itself. This could be the replacement for the vanishing newspaper that stores need for their ads.

Might also be really handy for finding houses of ill repute when traveling to other countries. :)

When everyone is wearing AR contacts... (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024671)

...(all running Windows for AR of course) a few clever hackers will make themselves invisible [1]. A system that can add to reality can subtract from it as well.

[1] Except to old people, but everyone knows they hallucinate.

Simultaneous Data+GPS+Camera = Battery Fail (2, Insightful)

zbend (827907) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024693)

I suspect you can "augment reality" for about 30 seconds, unless plugged in.

Chuck! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29024735)

I want the arm band that Orion used in Chuck (Chucks Dad - haha spolier for those who havent seen well any....)

That was bad ass, kill the click sound though.

And the glasses with the intersect in them - very MI

Interaction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29024751)

You need to be able to interact with the meta-data instead of having holding the clumsy, square iBrain in your hand:

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/pattie_maes_demos_the_sixth_sense.html
...combine the above with a HUD, like Johnny Lee's Wii remote hack:

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/johnny_lee_demos_wii_remote_hacks.html

It's about a year away, right? Less, maybe? Every time I read William Gibson's latest book, his science is no longer fiction.

They cheated - not quite augmented reality (1)

MobyDisk (75490) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024795)

Judging from the video, the software doesn't use the camera at all. It uses the GPS and the compass. Overlaying the information over the camera is just eye candy. This is "augmented reality" in the same way that a satellite map is. Or displaying any information over a camera image. It sure feels cool though.

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Intresting Hack Idea (1)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 5 years ago | (#29024881)

With the revelation of the iPhone SMS exploit at the last 'black hat' get together more 'hackers' will be looking for such flaws.

I think it would be extremely funny if someone finds another bug and pushes out a 'Rule 34' update to every iPhone that would superimpose naughty things when people try and use their iPhone's camera. Extra points if it's kitty porn complaint.

It will never happen though, crackers are only interested in getting paid now days. I miss the days of DOS virus coders....

I like how this is it arriving. (4, Insightful)

lattyware (934246) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025033)

There have been a number of apps that do this on the Android platform for some time now. Has to be an iPhone app to get coverage of course. The BBC really annoy me with their tech coverage, the only things that ever get covered are microsoft/apple stories, or the whole violent video games thing.

MIT Media Lab was trying this (1)

peter303 (12292) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025125)

I recall the MIT media lab doing location-sensitive overlays on video goggles (unable to find web page). These would be a lot like Google Map mashups. Having an iPhone and Google Map would simplify heir engineering- they wouldnt have to invesnt as much hardware from scratch as they did in their project.

Augmented Vision (1)

Kr4u53 (955252) | more than 5 years ago | (#29025129)

I keep seeing all of these articles saying that new phones are going to revolutionize the way we see things. Where is my HUD at as of now? When can I expect to have a HUD showing my health bar and ammo without having to use a phone camera to see the world instead of my own eyes?

What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29025171)

No "homersexual" tag?
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