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Windows 7 To Sell In UK For Half the US Price

kdawson posted more than 5 years ago | from the but-wait-you-also-get dept.

Windows 487

An anonymous reader writes "In the UK, a full version of Windows 7 Home Premium is going to cost less than half the price Americans will have to pay, and in fact less than Americans have to pay just for the upgrade-only edition. Full details and prices were published in an article on CNet, in which it was concluded that, at least for the time being, Microsoft is honoring the prices it set for the now-discontinued European version of Win7, which did not contain Internet Explorer 8 and was only available as a full-install edition."

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So, (5, Funny)

Philip K Dickhead (906971) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113271)

Do Yanks start ordering from amazon.co.uk?

Re:So, (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113289)

You know what's really funny? The word "jigaboo". I mean, just look at it. I feel silly even saying it out loud.

Re:So, (5, Funny)

olsmeister (1488789) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113323)

Nope, we can't use the UK version. The mouse buttons are reversed from the way they are here in the States.

Re:So, (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113353)

You can tweak that in Control panel > Mouse

Re:So, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113953)

WHOOOSH

Re:So, (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113413)

The mouse buttons are reversed from the way they are here in the States.

Yeah, and it's weird the way they call it Win 7 over there when only losers will buy it.

Re:So, (2, Funny)

pnevin (168332) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113431)

No, you're thinking of the Australian version.

Re:So, (4, Funny)

Dachannien (617929) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113471)

I thought Australian meeses had their buttons on the bottom.

Re:So, (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113525)

I thought Australian meeses had their buttons on the bottom.

Yeah they do, but 'cause you're on the underneath of the planet and therefore sitting upsidedown at your desk, you can't notice any difference at all. Unless, of course, you take that mouse up to the top.

Re:So, (1)

fireman sam (662213) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113923)

We may be upside down, but at least we aren't backward

Re:So, (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113577)

The UK version will also only run off of 240V. Unless you plug your computer into your stove outlet in the kitchen or rewire your house, you can't use the UK version in the USA.

left handed mouse, no IE real savings (1)

xzvf (924443) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113659)

You can just switch to a left handed mouse and it'll be like the US version. But, the real news is now we know the real cost of IE, since they have to remove it from the EU version.

It's all about killing choice (1, Troll)

shanen (462549) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113869)

You think you can fool Microsoft so easily? Perhaps you can disguise your mouse and your IP address--but as soon as you switch your spelling dictionary to American English, they'll nail you.

Microsoft is like seawater. Everywhere, but poisonous.

Actually, what I want is REAL choice = REAL freedom.

In our current episode, Microsoft is playing games with the European regulators in hopes of appeasing them. In our last episode, Microsoft wanted to dictate Vista or DEATH! Wait, Microsoft didn't mean it. Now you can choose Windows 7 with only 35% of the awful and unneeded features of Vista! And at a special price, too. Such a deal!

Microsoft has become way to big to fail, which means too big to exist. Sooner or later they are going to fail. Whoops. Who am I kidding? Microsoft is constantly failing. What I mean is sooner or later they are going to fail so big and so hard that the economic consequences will be astronomical. This is TOO big.

Actually, I think the part that most annoys me is that Microsoft has actually become such a powerful a brake on progress. No software innovation is safe if Microsoft wants to kill it. My personal least favorite is what Microsoft did to Palm. Is it somehow supposed to be better because the entire thing was insincere? Now they've apparently decided to abandon that turkey?

From the 'positive' perspective, why would Microsoft want to innovate when they're already getting the lion's share? New versions? That's a decision for marketing! What year will be convenient for the next marketing campaign? That's the WRONG basis for improvements.

Suggestion: Cut Microsoft into 5 companies. Call them Microsoft A to E with a time limit before they need to pick new names. Give each of them a copy of the source code and 1/5 of the people and facilities and assets. Require them to compete. Windows can remain the standard OS, but they have to compete on the basis of the standard, and all changes and improvements to the standard must be discussed in public and agreed to, or the changes will be proprietary to that branch of the company.

Result? Real choice = freedom.

Side effect? As the code bases evolve over time, the single points of failure will be eliminated. Instead of 80% of the world's computers being at risk from one programming mistake, the risk will be greatly reduced.

Don't think of it as a penalty for success. It's an inducement to reproduce your company when you are successful enough. A new form of corporate evolution that increases our freedom while also creating more pressure for creative innovations and progress. (If you succeed again up to about 40% of the market, then your company should reproduce again, just to note the obvious.)

Re:It's all about killing choice (3, Insightful)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113959)

You need a new hobby. You managed to nail every Microsoft/Win 7 slashdot talking point in one post. What are the rest of us supposed to talk about now?

Re:So, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113931)

Looks like the lefties win here then!

So will it be region locked? (1)

Sylos (1073710) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113275)

'Cause if not, I wonder if it would be cheaper to have a friend order it in Europe then ship it over to the US of A?

Re:So will it be region locked? (4, Insightful)

NotBornYesterday (1093817) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113497)

It won't cost you anything if you don't buy it. There are alternatives.

Re:So will it be region locked? (5, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113751)

"There are alternatives."

Arrrr, that thar be matey!

Translating it into English was really cheap! (4, Insightful)

billstewart (78916) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113281)

I guess they're pricing it for their target market? Surely nobody would ship a copy from the UK over to North America!

Re:Translating it into English was really cheap! (1)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113349)

But does it come in AMERICAN English?

Maybe I can buy a downloadable upgrade, and run through a brit proxy to download it....

Re:Translating it into English was really cheap! (2, Interesting)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113649)

Yeah I mean that translation was difficult. It's the same version they sell in Canada.

What? (-1, Troll)

jerep (794296) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113301)

People pay for Windows? It's free to download on the internets!

Re:What? (1, Redundant)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113839)

It's free to download on the internets!

So's Linux, but people still pay [redhat.com] for [novell.com] it [canonical.com] .

Well, considering.... (2, Interesting)

pablo_max (626328) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113305)

...most will just DL it anyhow...does it really matter? ;)

Good news for others (1, Offtopic)

Anubis IV (1279820) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113313)

It's this sort of news that makes the $29 price for Snow Leopard just look better and better.

Re:Good news for others (2, Interesting)

BlueKitties (1541613) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113359)

$29 for Snow Leopard!?

Congratulations Steve, I'm installing OSX in a VM soon.

Re:Good news for others (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113411)

$29 is for an upgrade from Leopard. Apparently you cannot upgrade straight from Tiger, and it's unlikely to work standalone if that's your idea.

Re:Good news for others (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113765)

There's a straight upgrade from Tiger if you have intel machine

http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html

Re:Good news for others (1)

michaelhood (667393) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113685)

$29 for Snow Leopard!?

Congratulations Steve, I'm installing OSX in a VM soon.

Installing OSX on non-Apple hardware is against the License, so you might as well just download yourself a copy since you'll be in "violation" of said license either way.

Re:Good news for others (3, Insightful)

tpgp (48001) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113743)

so you might as well just download yourself a copy since you'll be in "violation" of said license either way.

Violation of an EULA is not even the remote equivalent of violation of copyright law.

Re:Good news for others (5, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113763)

All crimes against Profit are equally serious, comrade citizen...

Re:Good news for others (1)

mkavanagh2 (776662) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113803)

it's pretty much the same thing since a EULA is an agreement with the copyright holder

Re:Good news for others (2, Funny)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113845)

He never said the VM wouldn't be on an Apple machine...

Nancy Sinatra might have something to say (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113893)

You may be old enough to remember Nancy Sinatra's song:

This Eula's meant for breaking,
and that's just what I'll do,
and one of these days this Eula's
gonna get broke all over you!

Re:Good news for others (1)

ethana2 (1389887) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113721)

If you succeed, please let me know how exactly you did it. As I can tell it's not actually possible.

Re:Good news for others (1)

ethana2 (1389887) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113725)

That's $30 to upgrade (on top of) 10.5. That means, from no OS X at all, it's actually $30 /more/ than other releases ($160 or something).

Re:Good news for others (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113823)

Uh, no. You can buy a 129$ Snow Leopard for Intel Macs that pre-date Leopard.

Only for a Leopard upgrade (1)

MMInterface (1039102) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113767)

Here's what I saw from the recent interview on cnet (for a vm you will be paying $169): http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10310131-37.html [cnet.com]

Apple surprised people by putting the price to upgrade to Snow Leopard at a very attractive $29 for a single license, and $49 for a five-user family pack. But there's a catch: you have to already have Leopard installed to pay those prices. If you're upgrading from a previous version of Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger), you'll have to pay $169, which includes an upgrade to 10.5 (Leopard) and 10.6 (Snow Leopard). For a 5-user family pack license, it'll cost $229. And Snow Leopard is only compatible with Macs containing Intel chips. On the OS front, Leopard is the end of the line for PowerPC Mac owners.

Windows 7 Home Premiu (-1, Redundant)

ronankate123 (1620577) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113425)

In the UK, a full version of Windows 7 Home Premium is going to cost less than half the price Americans will have to pay, and in fact less than Americans have to pay just for the upgrade-only edition. Full details and prices were published in an article on CNet, in which it was concluded that, at least for the time being, Microsoft is honoring the prices it set for the now-discontinued European version of Win7, which did not contain Internet Explorer 8 and was only available as a full-install edition." Click for detail [globolstaff.com]

Re:Good news for others (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113957)

Yeah but the Leopard to Snow Leopard upgrade is essentially just a routine patch. Basically an upgrade of everything to being compiled in 64-bit mode and isn't much new content or new features at all.

Really it should be free but it has been a while since Leopard was released and Apple wants yer cash.

Price? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113321)

Just what should the price of VISTA SP2 be? I understand the name change, MS wants to put as much distance as possible between Vista and a "new" OS. But its still Vista SP2 with a price tag, shit smells the same regardless how its packaged and marketed and a price tag doesn't make it better.

Re:Price? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113507)

Vista sp2 should be called Vista sp2. It's out, it's free, go download it and patch your heart out.

Arbitrage (5, Interesting)

prakslash (681585) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113331)

This will lead to people indulging in arbitrage [wikipedia.org] .
Unless, of course, Microsoft has somehow put in a mechanism that disables a UK-bought Windows 7 when someone attempts to install it on a computer located in the US.

Re:Arbitrage (5, Funny)

langelgjm (860756) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113445)

It relies on advanced authentication mechanism that involves the (potential) user spelling several words: honour, colour, etc. If the user misses any "u", it refuses to activate.

Re:Arbitrage (2, Insightful)

corychristison (951993) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113809)

I guess everyone from Canada won't have any issues!

Re:Arbitrage (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113927)

All 8 of you guys get half off! -Stevie B.

Re:Arbitrage (1)

Minwee (522556) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113851)

So Canadian users are either totally screwed, or have just been saved a whole lot of pain.

Re:Arbitrage (1)

Antony-Kyre (807195) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113935)

And just because I'm an American who spells colour, honour, behaviour, etc. with the letter "u", doesn't mean I'm British.

Re:Arbitrage (1)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113651)

Unless, of course, Microsoft has somehow put in a mechanism that disables a UK-bought Windows 7 when someone attempts to install it on a computer located in the US.

No no... that's not how this works.. you allow a a few million copies to be sold to Americans then you release a security fix that automaticlly installs and disables any copy that is located anywhere in America based on it's IP address thus forcing those stupid Americans to buy yet another license which will be offered at a slight discount from the US retail version.

Basically you make much more money and piss off your customer base at the same time.....

Re:Arbitrage (1)

mysidia (191772) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113703)

That's no problem... I use 10.255.x.x IP addresses. These are clearly European.

Re:Arbitrage (1)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113829)

That's no problem... I use 10.255.x.x IP addresses. These are clearly European.

We'll see what tracert has to say about that! Or maybe my broke ass site http://www.paranoidsurfing.com/ [paranoidsurfing.com]

Re:Arbitrage (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113933)

HA! I tricked it:

Proxy not detected.

It doesn't know about Privoxy!!!! Ha ha ha ha!!!

Oh, wait.........

IP & Proxy Information:

IP Addr: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Proxy not detected.

They figured out that I've been peddling smut on the intarwebz!!! The IRS will be here tomorrow!! What do I do now???

Re:Arbitrage (1)

techno-vampire (666512) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113855)

Considering how many computers are behind router on non-routable subnets, that's not going to work. Just have it check to see what the time zone is. Of course, that lets out Canada, but that's just minor collateral damage to somebody as big as Microsoft.

Re:Arbitrage (1)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113877)

Considering how many computers are behind router on non-routable subnets, that's not going to work. Just have it check to see what the time zone is. Of course, that lets out Canada, but that's just minor collateral damage to somebody as big as Microsoft.

THE HELL IT'S NOT.. WinXP boxes connect to a Microsoft server once a day for updates, somehow I don't think SEVEN is going to be much different...

Re:Arbitrage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113689)

Wow, a big word and a wikipedia link. Guess what: the UK version isn't "valid" in the United States. Licenses are granted by one party to another, under the power and protection of a sovereign government. The UK doesn't have sovereign power in America. Microsoft can nail your balls to the wall if you start moving licenses around in bulk, and they will.

Re:Arbitrage (1)

Trahloc (842734) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113875)

So everyone flying around the globe with laptops don't have valid licenses? I don't remember anyone mentioning that the license is only valid if installed in a particular country but could then be used globally. So which is it? Globally valid or globally invalid?

Re:Arbitrage (1)

sjf (3790) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113967)

The UK doesn't have sovereign power in America.

Theoretically, the UK does indeed have plenty of sovereign power in America. Thirteen states from Canada to Guyana all recognize her Majesty to a greater or lessor extent.

I think you meant in the United States

Re:Arbitrage (4, Insightful)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113857)

This will lead to people indulging in arbitrage [wikipedia.org] .

You say that like that's a bad thing.

Re:Arbitrage (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113929)

Well someone is going to want to do compatibility testing with foreign versions. Does Microsoft prevent this, or do you get a special authorization key if you buy foreign versions from Microsoft US? I wouldn't mind getting the UK version, but I'd hate to have the authorization fail.

Nicholas Wirth (5, Funny)

craznar (710808) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113337)

This reminds me of a story once told by Nicholas Wirth:

When he was in Europe - they called him 'Nicholas Wirth', the correct pronunciation.
When he was in USA - they called him 'Nickles Worth', the incorrect pronunciation.

He inferred this was because whilst in Europe they called him by name, when in USA they called him by value.

Well Microsoft seems to have definitely reversed that with this decision.

Learn new tricks from an old dog (0, Flamebait)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113771)

He inferred this was because whilst in Europe they called him by name, when in USA they called him by value.

Not by value, mate, by price.

Windows 7 To Sell In UK For Half the US Price

Maybe we have something to learn from the British. Anyone know how they do health care over there?

call by reference/call by value... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113961)

I believe whoosh is the sound that is supposed to be posted here.

Just buy an import copy online! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113347)

Simple solution to a scummy problem.

No upgrade option in the UK (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113361)

Did anyone else notice amazon.co.uk doesn't have an upgrade version of Windows 7 available?

Guess as much as you want about future plans, the meaning behind it, the motivation for no upgrade options... but the key thing to realize is that if they're not going to sell an upgrade version in the UK, they probably want to sell the full version at a price point more affordable for upgrades.

Versions other than home premium have less substantial discounts.

Yeah? So? (5, Insightful)

erroneus (253617) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113369)

We've got region coding on DVDs that does the same thing -- different prices for different markets because we all know that "one market" just isn't right. We must have several markets because different markets will bear different amounts. It would definitely be counter-productive to not take advantage of markets that will pay more or those that will only pay less.

It also makes sense that markets that are more likely to switch to Linux or Mac OS X should pay less and that markets that are less likely to switch should pay more. I have pondered the notion of how a national switch to Linux could work out for any nation and I have to say, it's really hard to imagine. But with that said, the entire globe managed to switch to the metric system, including the U.K. Oh wait, not the entire world... the U.S. is a hold-out... is the U.S. the *last* hold-out? (I dunno) So while the world might switch away from Windows, the U.S. is probably the least likely to make that change.

Is it illegal to fix prices like this? It is in the U.S. It is in other countries. But is it illegal to fix prices for specific countries so long as the whole country is included in that fixed price? I guess so since no one is charging Microsoft with any crimes... yet...

Re:Yeah? So? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113417)

Microsoft aren't the first. For years Australians have had to pay higher prices for games purchased through Steam.

Re:Yeah? So? (0, Offtopic)

erroneus (253617) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113499)

Oh yeah... "Fuck me nigsausage"

Thought I'd save you the trouble.

(For those who aren't aware and in case you are curious, I have a love-stalker. For most of my more recent comments, someone under AC has been replying "fuck you nigsausage" to what I write. Someone has to really care about what I say to put that much effort into it. And attempting to hide their affection with negativity is incredibly freudian to the point of latent homosexual tendencies.)

Re:Yeah? So? (1)

langelgjm (860756) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113543)

Charging different prices in different markets isn't price fixing, it's price discrimination. Those are totally different things.

Price discrimination is what museums do when they offer student and senior discounts. Or, it's what the street vendor does when he sees you're wearing nice clothes are tells you your trinket is $10, instead the $5 he just sold one for to the people in old jeans.

Price fixing would be if all the sellers in a market got together and agreed not to sell to anyone below a certain price.

I'm not saying I like DVD region coding, or that it's good for consumers. And yeah, it would create opportunities for arbitrage (or with DVD players, it creates a market for region-free players - or you're like my Russian friend, who just has two DVD players). The interesting thing will be to see what Microsoft does to prevent arbitrage.

Re:Yeah? So? (1)

mysidia (191772) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113719)

Unless Intel has a surprise coming very quickly, without TCPA/Palladium, there's no chip on standard PC hardware that is region locked, however.

If there was, no problem... just import your hardware too; you're going to need new hardware to run Windows 7, which is very resource hungry.

Or use older hardware that doesn't have the new region locking.

Re:Yeah? So? (1)

jvillain (546827) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113729)

>"Oh wait, not the entire world... the U.S. is a hold-out... is the U.S. the *last* hold-out? (I dunno)"
I believe North Korea or Libya is the only other not to have moved to the metric system.

Re:Yeah? So? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113759)

Intuitively, price discrimination seems wrong, but it can actually be good. It is quite possible for the combined market price to be the same as in the more expensive market and the cheaper market is merely priced out along the demand curve. The example I seem to recall is a drug that is beneficial for both humans and pets. Such drugs are marketed under different names because a common market would price out pet use, being able to discriminate allows pets to be treated, and humans to be no worse off. A similar dynamic holds 1st vs 3rd world prices. This effect is one reason (in addition to control) that the US does not allow reimportation of drugs - it has the potential to cripple drug supplies in other countries. Even in the first world, for some drugs, it would be more profitable to not sell a drug at lower prices in Canada than deal with the competition through reimportation.

Re:Yeah? So? (2, Insightful)

nadaou (535365) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113761)

the entire globe managed to switch to the metric system, including the U.K. Oh wait, not the entire world... the U.S. is a hold-out... is the U.S. the *last* hold-out? (I dunno)

Now that the Philippines has switched, I think it is just Liberia and Burma left. And England still uses miles sometime, where appropriate.

For the record, Celsius sucks for the "how warm is it today?" question (the scale based on 0-100% is better), Meters suck for "how big is this object I hold?" question, and using a drill size 1/64th bigger than the O.D. of the bolt to make the hole just the right size is an inelegant hack in metric sizing.

None the less, the inefficiency the US carries around with it must have some huge long term detriment to the economy, and it's completely wrong on so many levels that NASA refuses to convert to metric.

Re:Yeah? So? (2, Insightful)

nadaou (535365) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113787)

another example: when working with a (foot long) wrench or spanner, with the Foot-pound you can simply & intuitively feel how much force to apply. With the Newton-Meter you need a special gauge to know.

Re:Yeah? So? (4, Interesting)

dakameleon (1126377) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113815)

[Metric system -] is the U.S. the *last* hold-out?

Nope, you're in good company with Myanmar (Burma) and Liberia.

(less facetiously, the UK still uses miles for distances and miles per hour for speed, and fair number of people still use feet & inches for human height)

Just checking... (5, Funny)

Dan East (318230) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113387)

Y'all know that £20 isn't really half as much spending power as $40, right?

Re:Just checking... (1)

rennerik (1256370) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113479)

Y'all know that £20 isn't really half as much spending power as $40, right?

Indeed, but TFA says in the UK they are paying (converting here to dollars) $107 USD for a full version of Windows 7, whereas here in the US we're paying $200 for a full version (and $120 for an upgrade).

So the issue is, they're paying $93 less for a full version than we are, and on top of that, $13 less for a full version than we are for an upgrade.

Viral advertising? (1)

pbhj (607776) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113741)

My spidey-sense is tingling. I'm guessing that there will be an uproar, a lot, a whole lot, of press in the US about how unfair it is and then, tada, the US price actually comes in even lower than the UK price and they throw in a free churro - because USA-ians stick together and MS is just supporting business growth in the US and if only everyone will go out and buy it then democracy will come to the world and ...

An open letter to Windows marketing team (5, Funny)

rennerik (1256370) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113395)

Dear Microsoft,

I read recently that you have decided to cut Windows 7's price in the UK to about half of what it is here in the US. I don't feel that it does justice to us here in the States, as we're actually getting less value than your UK market.

Take, for example, all the U's that have been dropped from words. My color is not colour, but yet, I have to pay more for the lack of the U. This is unfair. Has the cost of cutting U's from words taken a sharp climb?

Perhaps the letter Z is charging too much these days, and I know how that can be. It only makes sparse appearances in words such as localize and marginalize, but despite its rare occurrence, it, much like a has-been movie star, has the gall to demand top billing. Perhaps your royalties payable to this (not)under-appreciated letter raise the costs here in the US.

Whatever the reasoning, I still find it unfair, and being such a large and powerful corporation, the fact that you can be taken advantage of like this is not only sad, but reprehensible. Use those lawyers of yours and get back at them! Hey, you can even be on the winning end of an anti-trust suit... think of the headlines now: "'Z' Loses Anti-Trust Judgement Thanks to Microsoft". Won't that be good press?

Sincerely,

A Concerned Citizen

PS - This message has been brought to you by the letter 5.

Re:An open letter to Windows marketing team (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113601)

PS - This message has been brought to you by the letter 5.

Were you trying to be funny, or are you a programmer and know that there is, in fact, a difference between the number 5 and the letter 5?

Re:An open letter to Windows marketing team (4, Funny)

Fluffeh (1273756) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113619)

Dear Citizen,

We here at Microsoft take the utmost care when faced with queries such as yours.

It is a little misunderstanding. While it is true that you aren't getting your full from the vowel U in the American version, we are including the other vowels I&E in it, which do actually not come packaged with the European version.

I hope you find these two shiny vowels as valuable as we thought you would, and now understand the extra cost of the American version of the product.

Sincerely,
A Helpful Customer Servicer

PS. This message has been brought to you by the number $107.

This is news? (5, Interesting)

Smoke2Joints (915787) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113407)

The price for my country was going to be twice that in the US, let alone the UK. I dont remember any outrage about that.

Yea, it sucks, but other people most probably have it worse off than you do. Or they use linux.

Re:This is news? (1)

MartinSchou (1360093) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113757)

Same in Denmark. Expensive and no family licence deals ...

At least Microsoft aren't expecting people to pirate the damn thing ...

Not surprising (5, Insightful)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113421)

MS, like many American companies, are fleecing the country. We are regularly charged top prices for drugs, Windows software, Iron, Labor, etc. Heck, the neo-cons passed a drug policy that has the US gov paying the TOP dollar for the drugs, rather than the bottom, even though we are the largest customer. Absolutely ridiculous.

It's like living in NYC. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113491)

I thought economies of scale caused prices to go down. So why does it cost so much to live in NYC? If anything, it should cost less, due to so many people all up in your business.

Re:Not surprising (1)

hoarier (1545701) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113605)

We are regularly charged top prices for drugs, Windows software, Iron, Labor, etc.

Labor? Hmm, do you have a source for that? (I hadn't noticed that US mcjobs were particularly well paid.)

Well, Americans need drugs (though a lot less than many think), labor, iron, etc; but they don't need Windows.

Price gouging ... (5, Informative)

pbhj (607776) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113671)

MS, like many American companies, are fleecing the country.

GB prices for tech are usually close to the same number of pounds as dollars things have eased a bit recently, here are two random examples:
* New Apple iPod Touch 8GB 2nd Generation (amazon UK), £152 = $250
* ditto (amazon US), $215 -> UK one is only 16% more

* Dell M17X laptop (UK), £1699 = $2815
* ditto (US), $1799 -> saving $1000 by purchasing in the US vs in the UK where it is 56% more expensive

Last year it was about $2 = £1; http://www.google.co.uk/finance?q=GBPUSD [google.co.uk]

You were saying ...? This would make it even more extraordinary for Win 7 to be cheaper here, but when I look ...

* Win 7 ultimate (amazon UK), £170 = $280
* ditto (amazon US), $220 -> so only $60 / 27% more and the UK price is a "discounted" one from an RRP (recommended price) of £230

Um?

Vista upgrade? (3, Informative)

RalphSleigh (899929) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113439)

According to amazon.co.uk, since I am running XP, I could get a vista home premium upgrade for £60, and they will throw in a full windows 7 home premium free..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_84366313_1?ie=UTF8&docId=1000321063&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=special-product-offers-3&pf_rd_r=1N0XDYG13SRJD90788PR&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=470374053&pf_rd_i=B0013O54P8 [amazon.co.uk]

kdawson two minutes hate is on! (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113503)

a common practice among software companies is exploited by slashdot editor.

go look and see how much the price of mathmatica fluctuate between markets and you'll realize this is nothing.

Gee whizz (1)

RobDollar (1137885) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113521)

Most of the time in the UK we end up with the raw side of the deal. The great announcement of two-nine-nine from Sony (ps3 reduction) is a case in point. USA: $299, Europe: 299 Euro (can't be bothered to find the euro key), Japan: 2.99 billion billion yen, here in England: who knows, but you can bet your bottom dollar it will be more than retail in dollars.

So, my point being, there's really nothing the consumer can do about this, except for not buy the product ala Vista. Baby.

Re:Gee whizz (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113559)

I was wondering when somebody would point that out. That is indeed true. But what makes this particular situation worse, is that MS has been abusing our Visa program to get themselves cheap foreign labor and has been benefiting from US tax breaks.

US companies doing that to foreign markets isn't as bad. Nor is it that bad when foreign companies do it to US customers. But when a US company takes the cash and dicks over US consumers that's clearly unacceptable.

Ha-Ha! (1)

HangingChad (677530) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113545)

In the UK, a full version of Windows 7 Home Premium is going to cost less than half the price Americans will have to pay...

Getting stiffed by Microsoft simply because you CAN pay more. I think that's hilarious. How are the Microsoft faithful going to spin this one?

I've got a link for the Windows fanbois [angelfire.com] .

Don't like it don't buy it (1)

shemp42 (1406965) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113555)

I get really tired of all the whining. Its real simple, if you dont like the price then dont buy it. This is nothing new, they sold Vista in China for about $69 due to high piracy rates. I preordered Home Premium for $50. Very cheap if you ask me, hell most games cost $50. So to get a windows OS for that is really great. Even the retail of $199 is very good. I mean this is something you buy what once every 6 or 7 years. Again its real simple, no one is forcing you to buy the software, if you think the price is too high then keep your money in your pocket.

Re:Don't like it don't buy it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113735)

I get really tired of all the whining. Its real simple, if you dont like the price then dont buy it.

I didn't need your permission to not buy Windows, but thank you.

This is nothing new, they sold Vista in China for about $69 due to high piracy rates. I preordered Home Premium for $50. Very cheap if you ask me, hell most games cost $50. So to get a windows OS for that is really great

Oh WOW, a WINDOWS OS!!! FOR FIFTY DOLLARS!!

Forgive me if I am not impressed.

Just wondering (2, Insightful)

hyades1 (1149581) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113657)

Win7 is selling for half the price over 'ome? Does this mean UK residents are twice as smart as their American counterparts?

Hardy har har (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113667)

Americans like paying more that way they feel they get a better product, look at healthcare...

Re:Hardy har har (1)

sensationull (889870) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113979)

Americans like paying more that way they feel they get a better product, look at healthcare...

Or Apple :)

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29113801)

It's cheaper and you don't have to manually eradicate Internet Explorer?

Where do I sign up?!

True for Ultimate edition as well (1)

MartinSchou (1360093) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113821)

Amazon.co.uk: 169.98 GBP/281.66$ [amazon.co.uk]
Amazon.com: 319.99$/193.11GBP [amazon.com]

Not sure if the huge price difference between Home Premium and Ultimate is worth it though.

Half of the price (2, Funny)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113835)

Don't matter a lot. It is still several times its cost, and thousands of times its value.

so about the same as us oem price? (4, Insightful)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 5 years ago | (#29113859)

so about the same as us oem price?

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