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Treasured "Moon Rock" Is Petrified Wood

CmdrTaco posted more than 5 years ago | from the keep-yer-hands-off-my-treasure dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 209

Hugh Pickens writes "BBC reports that a treasured piece at the Dutch national museum — a supposed moon rock from the first manned lunar landing given to former Prime Minister Willem Drees during a goodwill tour by the three Apollo-11 astronauts shortly after their moon mission in 1969 — has been revealed as nothing more than petrified wood, curators say. A jagged fist-size stone with reddish tints, it was mounted and placed above a plaque that said, 'With the compliments of the Ambassador of the United States of America... to commemorate the visit to The Netherlands of the Apollo-11 astronauts.' The plaque does not specify that the rock came from the moon's surface. Researchers from Amsterdam's Free University said they could see at a glance the rock was probably not from the moon. They followed the initial appraisal up with extensive testing. 'It's a nondescript, pretty-much-worthless stone,' wrote Geologist Frank Beunk in an article published by the museum. Beunk says the rock, which the museum at one point insured for more than half a million dollars, was worth no more than $70. The 'rock' had originally been been vetted through a phone call to NASA. As the US Embassy in the Hague said it was investigating the matter, the Rijksmuseum says it will keep the piece as a curiosity."

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does this mean war? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231259)

I hope this can be resolved peacefully, American forces are stretched a bit thin at the moment.

Re:does this mean war? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231351)

This is an outrageous insult to the Dutch people. Expect to see a lot of burning embassies in the news soon.

Re:does this mean war? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29232399)

Have you seen the American Embassy in Amsterdam? The American people should honor anybody who burns it down.

Damn Nazi architechture.

Re:does this mean war? (1)

Teun (17872) | more than 5 years ago | (#29233115)

You have quite a fantasy to claim a second US embassy in this small country ;)

(The other one is in the city of The Hague)

Re:does this mean war? (0, Flamebait)

fimchick (1448001) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232639)

lol. these were not arabs that were insulted, so no embassies will be burned over a piece of moon ro...wood

New Pejorative "Dutch Artifact" (2, Funny)

graviplana (1160181) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232821)

This reminded me of the whole Anglo-Dutch Wars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Dutch_Wars [wikipedia.org] debacle that spawned so many great pejoratives such as:

Re:does this mean war? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29233005)

What with big Hemp fires as they smoke themselves stupid in anger over it?

wow man, they gave us a fake rock, can I have another toke?

Re:does this mean war? (1)

Teun (17872) | more than 5 years ago | (#29233153)

I assume you mean the British tourists that in Amsterdam are the main consumers of weed?

Re:does this mean war? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231955)

I wouldn't mind -- I keep getting too many vowels in Scrabble for English, but not for Dutch!

Re:does this mean war? (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231985)

Send Bill.

Re:does this mean war? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29232063)

Send Bill.

Maybe somebody else.

There's been enough 'giving of wood' already.

Cue the moon-mission hoax cult (5, Funny)

SputnikPanic (927985) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231287)

They'll be coming out of the (petrified) woodwork again...

Re:Cue the moon-mission hoax cult (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231301)

Second

Re:Cue the moon-mission hoax cult (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231773)

Clearly they were able to determine that the rock had never been on the moon, as the Van Allen radiation belt would have left irreversible damage on said stone (as well as the astronauts). Moon travel, with 1960's technology would have resulted in dead astronauts.

Now, if you'll excuse me, my tinfoil is done cooking in the microwave.

Re:Cue the moon-mission hoax cult (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231875)

*pats on head* there there... I hear daddy has some things he wants to explain to you...

did anyone else think of Ren & Stimpy? (1)

toby (759) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231297)

Re:did anyone else think of Ren & Stimpy? (2, Funny)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231845)

I *always* think of Ren & Stimpy.

Re:did anyone else think of Ren & Stimpy? (1)

dzfoo (772245) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232179)

Ren & Stimpy killed my dog, burned my homework, and ran away with my girlfriend, you insensitive clod!

        -dZ.

Nixon and Kissinger are laughing. (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231305)

It kept the wayward pseudo-commie Dutch in NATO 'til we could win the cold war.
Ha ha.

I KNEW IT! (5, Funny)

SilverHatHacker (1381259) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231333)

Proof that the moon landing was faked!!!
;)

Re:I KNEW IT! (4, Funny)

east coast (590680) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231409)

No! This is proof that life once existed on the moon. A great find.

Re:I KNEW IT! (1)

MindKata (957167) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231639)

No but it does prove the Dutch national museum can be hoaxed. On a brighter note, its still worth far more than $70. Its now a piece of historic memorabilia so its unique antique value is still going to be worth a fair bit.

Re:I KNEW IT! (4, Informative)

lysergic.acid (845423) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232583)

I think close to every large museum or gallery has been the victim of forgery (or "fakes").

The National Gallery of Victoria, the largest public gallery in Australia, has misattributed a painting to Van Gogh [usatoday.com] for the last 70 years. Meanwhile, it was discovered that the Art Institute of Chicago had purchased a fake Gauguin [pollocksthebollocks.com] . The Wallraf-Richartz Museum [wikipedia.org] has discovered that a "Monet" purchased five-and-a-half decades ago was a fake as well. Even the Getty [harvard.edu] and the Smithsonian have fallen victim to countless fakes.

The Dutch National Museum can at least be forgiven for not suspecting that a U.S. ambassador would present a fake artifact as a gift.

Re:I KNEW IT! (1)

tecnico.hitos (1490201) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231701)

Not quite. This proves the moon is made of petrified wood.

Re:I KNEW IT! (4, Funny)

WindowlessView (703773) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231801)

This is proof that life once existed on the moon.

It proves that the moon was once an interstate Stuckey's on the way to other galaxies. They just didn't find the low carb pecan log roll. It was only one shelf over.

Re:I KNEW IT! (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232271)

I wonder if there's a market for petrified woodies from the moon? I'm calling the local "marital aids" store....

Speaking of stupid schitz: Slashdot requires you to wait between each successful posting of a comment to allow everyone a fair chance at posting a comment.

Yes, I can see that if I make two posts within 5 minutes, I may be preventing someone else from posting their own stupid schitzls. My apologies to all of /.

Re:I KNEW IT! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29232351)

There /was/ once life on the moon.

They were called astronauts.

Re:I KNEW IT! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231411)

NO, this is actually proof, that there were forests on the moon!

Re:I KNEW IT! (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231597)

NO, this is actually proof, that there were forests on the moon!

That makes no sense, we've observed the moon heavily and we've never seen any other evidence that there were forests... on... the... moon...

Wait... Forest? Moon?

OMG! Apollo 11 actually went to Endor!

Re:I KNEW IT! (1)

space_jake (687452) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231643)

That's no moon.

Re:I KNEW IT! (1)

B1oodAnge1 (1485419) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232335)

I have a bad feeling about this...

Re:I KNEW IT! (1)

HaZardman27 (1521119) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231691)

This would explain why my dog looks so uncannily like an ewok.

Re:I KNEW IT! (1)

NekSnappa (803141) | more than 5 years ago | (#29233121)

Why? Did your dog come from the moon?

Re:I KNEW IT! (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232515)

That makes no sense, we've observed the moon heavily and we've never seen any other evidence that there were forests... on... the... moon...

Don't be silly, the forests are on the side we can't see along with the internment camps Barack Obama is building to house all the God-fearing Americans so he can bring a communo-nazi abortion regime to the US where everybody will be forced to have health insurance before they get sent to the Moon. Don't you guys read World Net Daily?

Did you know that there's no Constitution on the Moon? You can look it up.

Re:I KNEW IT! (1)

von_rick (944421) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231423)

I suspect that creating a buzz about the moon rock being a piece of petrified wood is the doing of the insurance company that has insured this rock.

Re:I KNEW IT! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231497)

Proof that the moon landing was faked!!! ;)

No it just proves that the moon is made from wood.

Re:I KNEW IT! (4, Funny)

east coast (590680) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231615)

Does that mean that the moon is a witch? Or is it a duck?

Re:I KNEW IT! (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231843)

Let's build a bridge out of it!

Re:I KNEW IT! (1)

lorenlal (164133) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232605)

Maybe we should just see if the moon floats.

Re:I KNEW IT! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231717)

Proof that the moon is NOT made of cheese but wood.

Re:I KNEW IT! (1)

Anonymous Monkey (795756) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231797)

The wood is for the frame that the cheese is inside of. Duh.

Re:I KNEW IT! (1)

WED Fan (911325) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232239)

The sad thing is that there will be those that think just that.

Re:I KNEW IT! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29232659)

No, just proof that the Dutch can still be ripped off.

Rock swap? (4, Insightful)

wcrowe (94389) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231357)

I wonder if someone swapped the fake rock for the real one back when it was presented.

Re:Rock swap? (1)

Kell Bengal (711123) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231521)

Good point - a real moon rock is hugely valuable. Who would really know enough to spot the difference at a distance? If you can get away with it, it's a fantastic swindle.

Re:Rock swap? (4, Informative)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231751)

If it were a swindle, though, there are loads of rocks that would have looked more like lunar material. A brownish chunk of fossil wood is pretty low on the list. You'd think that a hypothetical swindler would have used something more plausible.

Re:Rock swap? (1)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231791)

It was apparently good enough to fool everyone for quite a while.

Re:Rock swap? (4, Insightful)

jimicus (737525) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232091)

It was apparently good enough to fool everyone for quite a while.

How many people did it need to fool? For most people, I daresay the story of how it was presented is probably proof enough of what it is. My guess is someone switched it at some point.

Re:Rock swap? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29232029)

I didn't get a chance to bring this up sooner but, Ted Kennedy, I'm glad you're dead. You fucking nigger loving traitor piece of corrupt shit. Fuck you, fuck your brothers, fuck your whole piece of shit family. As soon as the money is all pissed away by your heirs and relatives, the United States will be a better place.

And on topic. This is some funny shit. Somebody should have at least said the rock was fake though if nothing else but to keep this from inevitably happening.

Re:Rock swap? (0)

Entropius (188861) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232077)

Nobody'd ever have gone to the moon in the first place if it weren't for a Kennedy, fyi.

Re:Rock swap? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29232139)

Yeh, nobody except the Russians of course

Re:Rock swap? (2, Insightful)

ciroknight (601098) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232359)

Obviously, that's why so many Russians have walked on the moon...

Re:Rock swap? (3, Funny)

Alien Being (18488) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232159)

JFK was hoping to find booze and uhh broads.

Re:Rock swap? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29232751)

"Nobody'd ever have gone to the moon in the first place if it weren't for a Kennedy, fyi."

Right. It never would have occurred to anyone to target the moon, despite the presence of a civilian space program that was already testing rockets for space exploration under Eisenhower.

Kennedy was the right guy with the right speech at the right time. The heavy lifting of getting a civilian space program was done under Ike, the bulk of the R&D was done under LBJ, and the moon shot was done under Nixon. JFK just wrote the check, somebody else had to cover it. Sort of a running theme for his presidency, really.

Re:Rock swap? (1)

Mikkeles (698461) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232893)

Well, I would be speaking to the ambassador (at the time) and his staff if were doing the investigation.

NASA again, man those crucks will never suprice me (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231365)

just check some of the articles from http://www.enterprisemission.com/ NASA is a joke that works for the military complex...

Best line of story: (3, Informative)

RandoX (828285) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231393)

The "rock" had originally been been vetted through a phone call to Nasa, she added.

Always good to double double check things.

Re:Best line of story: (4, Funny)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231867)

But they had a "A++, would buy again" rating!

Re:Best line of story: (5, Funny)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232267)

"And when we held the rock up to the receiver, NASA said, 'Yep, that's just what a moon rock sounds like!'"

Re:Best line of story: (1)

MiniMike (234881) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232857)

NASA will be including that "rock" on the next Moon mission. Thus, when it is returned, it will be less inaccurate to call it a Moon "rock". NASA will also be giving a slightly larger genuine Moon rock to each European country which wasn't so whiny about the previous round of gifts.

Were hot grits involved? (3, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231405)

And naked?

Re:Were hot grits involved? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231743)

Ok, this is many things but it is not a troll. Must we go through this every time a new set of idiots starts to get mod points?

Re:Were hot grits involved? (4, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231927)

Ok, this is many things but it is not a troll. Must we go through this every time a new set of idiots starts to get mod points?

If anything, I should be modded up for not making the easy dick joke! Petrified wood? Talk about low-hanging fruit! (which in itself could be easily subverted into a sexual reference. High five!)

Cue Nelson... (1)

name_already_taken (540581) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231427)

ha ha [youtube.com] !

Summary needs grammar check (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231441)

...to commemorate the visit to The Netherlands of the Apollo-11 astronauts

o.O

Who would want to visit an astronaut's nether regions, and even if they did why would they need a commemoration

Re:Summary needs grammar check (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29232389)

Maybe you should take some advanced grammar as well, mr know-it-all. Shit's fine.

Re:Summary needs grammar check (1)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232503)

...to commemorate the visit to The Netherlands of the Apollo-11 astronauts

o.O

Who would want to visit an astronaut's nether regions, and even if they did why would they need a commemoration

And how the hell did it get to be fossilized...

Obligatory (5, Funny)

Kranerian (1427183) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231443)

That's no moon rock...

Re:Obligatory (1)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232633)

It's a trap!

It could be worse. (3, Funny)

Loopy1492 (1308571) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231447)

Well, at least it's not a coprolite.

History changing (3, Funny)

unlametheweak (1102159) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231449)

"Moon Rock" Is Petrified Wood

This changes the whole history of the moon as we know it. This is proof that there is (or was) life in other places besides Earth. This is a momentous discovery in the history of space science.

That's no moon... (1)

Rhaban (987410) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231459)

That's a fully operationnal petrified wood!

Re:That's no moon... (1)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231693)

What?

The moon is a giant tree, everyone knows that. Where do you think green cheese comes from.

Re:That's no moon... (1)

rts008 (812749) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232661)

Where do you think green cheese comes from.

My fridge?
*looks in fridge*
Yeah, definitely my fridge.

Switcharoo? (1)

m509272 (1286764) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231515)

Perhaps someone pulled a switcharoo? If someone actually called NASA and they said they had provided a rock for this purpose then that is likely true. What was presented may or may not have been real or at some point after the presentation some monkey business might have occurred.

What This Really Means (2, Funny)

gpronger (1142181) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231523)

No, its not the moon landing was faked; what it means is (equally plausible) is that the capsule was pulled through a worm hole, to a point in time when the moon was forested. The piece of wood the astronauts were attempting to bring back, was not placed within the shielded area of the capsule so that when they went back through the worm hole, the piece of wood experienced the full impact of the millenia in between, and hence was returned as petrified. Because the shielding was somewhat worn by the initial trip, the memories of the astronauts were somewhat impacted. Film was subsequently created based upon what NASA believed happened.

That's impossible! (1)

brian0918 (638904) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231581)

How could life ever have existed in such a desolate place?

Thats possible in america! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231653)

It's possible, the same way common sense exists in the USA.

Re:Thats possible in america! (1)

arkane1234 (457605) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231911)

So in rare but densely populated micro-regions? ;)

Re:That's impossible! (1)

Rockoon (1252108) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232333)

How could life ever have existed in such a desolate place?

Come on.. Denmark isnt THAT desolate!

Re:That's impossible! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29232747)

DENMARK?

Fucking hell. Learn to read and then fuck off.

OMG! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29231633)

Americans passing off worthless things as somthing of value?

NO WAY! They have never done that before!

Re:OMG! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29232381)

Crap, this means the French have the REAL moon rock we were going to give the Dutch!

In other news... (5, Funny)

14erCleaner (745600) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231683)

Officials in Lake Havasu City, Arizona have discovered that the "London Bridge" they purchased back in the 60's is actually made of moon rock.

Cheese! (1)

freddled (544384) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231789)

Its petrified cheese I tell you. I've eaten cheese which tasted like petrified wood. No. Wait... that was aged Belgian cheese!! I say the visit of the Apollo 11 astronauts to Holland was obviously faked and staged in Belgium.

Re:Cheese! (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232049)

What sort of petrified wood?

I'm sure the flavor varies depending on the mineral content.

Lunar Forests??? (2, Funny)

EEBaum (520514) | more than 5 years ago | (#29231907)

ZOMG!!! This means there must have once been trees on the moon!!!

Re:Lunar Forests??? (1)

Pezistential (1444245) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232025)

ZOMG!!! This means there must have once been trees on the moon!!!

Of course... where do you think the cheese comes from?

Not even close... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29232011)

I see the picture and .... how on Earth could anybody think that was a Moon rock? It's not the right color or texture. All lunar rocks are either volcanic or intrusive igneous rocks. The specimen doesn't match at all. A geologist would realize it wasn't a Moon rock in about, oh, 5 seconds.

Here's a link to an earlier press release from the museum when they still thought it was a moon rock [rijksmuseum.nl] . It has a PDF file with a more detailed image [rijksmuseum.nl] than the BBC one. It's clearly un-Moon-like.

Vrije Universiteit (1)

guusbosman (151671) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232163)

While "free" or "liberal" is a translation of the Dutch word "Vrije", the officially used name in English of this university is "VU University", not "Free University". See the website: http://www.vu.nl/en/index.asp [www.vu.nl]

Re:Vrije Universiteit (1)

fridaynightsmoke (1589903) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232261)

While "free" or "liberal" is a translation of the Dutch word "Vrije", the officially used name in English of this university is "VU University", not "Free University". See the website: http://www.vu.nl/en/index.asp [www.vu.nl]

Are they the inventors of the VU-meter?;)

Records? (3, Insightful)

Maximum Prophet (716608) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232245)

Given that moon rock cost billions of dollars to bring back a few hundred pounds, you'd think NASA would have detailed measurements on every piece that's out there.

Ha. (5, Insightful)

drunken_boxer777 (985820) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232309)

Well, the obvious jokes about trees on the moon and fake lunar landings have already been made, so I'll make a simple observation: The curators at the Dutch National Museum thought that a red rock the size of a fist was a moon rock?

I'm not a curator at a national museum, nor am I even an amateur geologist, but I'm pretty sure I would at least recognize that the rock described didn't look like any moon rock I had ever seen or heard about. It would be woefully sad if the piece of fossilized tree was one that you could still see the rings in.

Clearly, they never knew the demand for moon rocks [slashdot.org] , and thought that enormous pieces are handed out to foreign politicians all the time:

Each year an independent peer review panel evaluates new research proposals, and curators mail out about 400 lunar samples to 40 to 50 scientists worldwide. Almost all are less than one gram in size. "We donâ(TM)t hand them out, we only loan them," Mr. Allen said.

Yes, scientists studying moon rocks have to write research grants in order to borrow a piece less than one gram in size. Yet the Dutch prime minister was given a fist sized moon rock. Yeah, OK.

Re:Ha. (1)

ezzzD55J (697465) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232817)

Yes, scientists studying moon rocks have to write research grants in order to borrow a piece less than one gram in size. Yet the Dutch prime minister was given a fist sized moon rock. Yeah, OK.

Perhaps some (real) chunks are more valuable/useful/interesting than others. TFA:

The US agency gave moon rocks to more than 100 countries following lunar missions in the 1970s.

If, per the article you linked to, NASA carried back "842 pounds" of rock, it makes little sense to loan out grams at a time unless there is something mighty special about those grams, and/or mighty boring about the other 841 pounds. So it doesn't quite add up as simply as you are saying.

Re:Ha. (1)

kevinNCSU (1531307) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232895)

Well clearly giving the moon rock as a state gift would be much better at convincing the Dutch to a trade agreement then the Diamond necklace or fine china. I bet your territorial expansion would hardly matter at all.

Bait and switch! (1)

hesaigo999ca (786966) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232585)

Who says it never was at the BEGINNING? Maybe in its time at the museum, someone was able to pull a fast one and replace the moon rock with a fake...??

Wan Hu (5, Funny)

slashmojo (818930) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232593)

So Wan Hu [wikipedia.org] made it to the moon after all!

 

Early in the sixteenth century, Wan decided to take advantage of China's advanced rocket and fireworks technology to launch himself into outer space. He supposedly had a chair built with forty-seven rockets attached. On the day of lift-off, Wan, splendidly attired, climbed into his rocket chair and forty seven servants lit the fuses and then hastily ran for cover. There was a huge explosion. When the smoke cleared, Wan and the chair were gone, and was said never to have been seen again.

Re:Wan Hu (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 5 years ago | (#29233155)

He should have added another 47 rockets for the return trip;

Oh (1)

KingPin27 (1290730) | more than 5 years ago | (#29232783)

So does this mean the moon really isn't made out of cheese?
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