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Apple Faces Inquiries In the EU On iPhone Accidents

kdawson posted about 5 years ago | from the or-are-you-just-glad-to-see-me dept.

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o'reor writes "As more cases of iPhone screen explosions emerge in the news on this side of the pond, Apple is now facing official inquiries and lawsuits in France. This situation has forced Apple finally to break silence and acknowledge the incidents: 'We are aware of these reports and we are waiting to receive the iPhones from the customers. Until we have the full details, we don't have anything further to add.' Following those reports, the European Commission had already decided last week to step in, while Apple tried to dismiss the problem as 'isolated incidents.' Meanwhile, iPhone explosion-related sites are now popping up on the Internet, releasing games such as iPop to chill out and relax on the subject, but also giving users advice on preventing iPhone accidents, or detecting imminent explosions."

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It's a new app... (5, Funny)

Pezistential (1444245) | about 5 years ago | (#29232833)

iExplode

Re:It's a new app... (3, Insightful)

slazzy (864185) | about 5 years ago | (#29232869)

It's a feature to protect sensitive data. Activate self destruct sequence in 3-2-1..

Re:It's a new app... (1)

InsertWittyNameHere (1438813) | about 5 years ago | (#29233239)

"this message will self destruct in 5 seconds..."
Only on the iPhone 3GS

Re:It's a new app... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29233287)

I though of iBang but I suspect that would not be fully appeciated on Slashdot.

Re:It's a new app... (0, Redundant)

Mordok-DestroyerOfWo (1000167) | about 5 years ago | (#29233555)

So there really is an app for everything!

"pound me in the ass" app (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29234271)

I just hope all this "there is an app for that" crowd gets the "pound me in the ass" app and shut the fuck up forever.

Oh wait.. they already have iphone..

Re:It's a new app... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29234543)

"It happens to all lithium batteries. This is clearly just a FUD campaign against Apple."

This was pretty much what I read, posted by various Apple fanboys, when that article about Apple trying to silence that girl when her device exploded was on slashdot.

Re:It's a new app... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29234909)

iExplode

There's an app for that too.

Re:It's a new app... (1)

Ecuador (740021) | about 5 years ago | (#29235493)

You won't get such an app passed. Mine got rejected for having an "adult theme". I mean, come on, how are explosions adult only?
Anyway, I had a much nicer app name picked, iExplode is too long. iBlow on the other hand...

Really? (4, Insightful)

maxume (22995) | about 5 years ago | (#29232843)

Was it really necessary to link to the iPop advertisements 3 times?

Re:Really? (4, Insightful)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 5 years ago | (#29232921)

Sure. More revenue. What are you, new here?

Come on Slashdot. This is pretty lame. No wireless even. Not funny even.

FTFA:

* 4. Listen to your iPhone and get to know when the iPhone is about is explode in you hand on [sic] in the pocket. When you feel this is the time, the best thing to do is to throw it away and let the iPhone explode far from you. Later on, please collect all the pieces.

If you're going to make a goof ball web site, at least proof read your text. Even the Time Cube guy does that....

Lame.

Re:Really? (1)

omnichad (1198475) | about 5 years ago | (#29233049)

That's not a lack of proofreading. It's being nearly illiterate in your second or third language.

Where are the pictures (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | about 5 years ago | (#29232873)

The makeipodsafe site is just a series of essays with self-referential links.

It's like Slashdot without the humor.

Why don't they show pictures of exploding ipods and injuries sustained by the exploding ipod owners? The sustain, show it to us.

Lithium Ion Batteries (4, Informative)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | about 5 years ago | (#29232883)

Are the cause I hear. Lots of devices use these kinds of batteries, simply because they are easily rechargable. It's said that if one gets too hot, and is under a certain amount of pressure on the inside, the battery can explode. I didn't RTFA I'm sure its mentioned somewhere in there. Things that use L I batteries have exploded before in the past, it's just become common that everyone owns either an iPod or an iPhone, so when 13 or more stories arise of exploding Apple devices people take notice.

But, like the summary says, Apple hasn't received the broken equipment yet, so the battery is not the CONFIRMED cause of the explosion.

Anyone want to take a bet?

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29233077)

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5icQWJ2mlc--irCjF-iJMQTGfcIIQ [google.com]

Apple is claiming that the screens were broken due to an external force according to their initial investigations.

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (2, Insightful)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | about 5 years ago | (#29233271)

Now THAT -IS- interesting.

I mean, it appears to me as though Apple found a couple of cases where it wasn't the battery and they're trying to promote the idea that their product is safe before admitting that there is a defect.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the batteries went through alot of QA before they were shipped, and they were much safer then previous batteries used. But its still the same technology, and there will be rare cases where users will put strain on their devices that weren't tested. And by that I don't mean excessive pressure to the screen, I mean having the iPhone in a dusty environment, things start overheating, lots of stuff like that.

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (2, Insightful)

aristotle-dude (626586) | about 5 years ago | (#29235415)

Now THAT -IS- interesting.

I mean, it appears to me as though Apple found a couple of cases where it wasn't the battery and they're trying to promote the idea that their product is safe before admitting that there is a defect.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the batteries went through alot of QA before they were shipped, and they were much safer then previous batteries used.

Why are you assuming that this has anything to do with the battery being defective? How do we know that this was not caused by either the backlight exploding directly from pressure or from the backlight exploding and causing damage to the lithium battery which then exploded?

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (1)

drseuk (824707) | about 5 years ago | (#29233495)

The effect appears to be proportional to the local density of WinCE devices and their frequency in attempting to BT pair with iPhones. Many Bofh's exploded to bring us this information. May the force be with us.

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (1)

dbcad7 (771464) | about 5 years ago | (#29235023)

And so they can't understand why people would not send them the exploded devices to confirm that all cases are from external forces.

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29233119)

Lithium is WATER reactive, throw an exposed lithium battery into water, you will see it explode :)

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (5, Informative)

commodore64_love (1445365) | about 5 years ago | (#29233183)

>>>they are easily rechargable.

Not true. LiIon batteries are extremely difficult to recharge and are in fact the most-complex battery ever made for home use. But the reason companies put-up with them is because they can hold the same amount of charge as a NiCad or NiMH battery, but in 1/4 or 1/2 the space, respectively. Obviously saving space is important for phones and laptops.

Now contrast that with hybrid cars which almost-universally use the NiMH battery. Since space is no great concern, but safety is, they use the more-stable battery. NiMH also has the advantage of surviving the ~20 years that cars typically last, and also being environmentally neutral.

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (2, Interesting)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | about 5 years ago | (#29233359)

Well. Yes. I didn't mean "Easy" as in we've mastered it, I meant it as in, since they're so small, I don't need an Alternator the size of a head to recharge it. My mistake for poor word usage. Should've said because of their size AND the ability to be recharged.

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | about 5 years ago | (#29233635)

Alternator? No no. We're not discussing cars here. They use AC-to-DC converters, and the power load on this device would be essentially the same regardless of what battery type you used (1000mAh LiIon, 1000mAh NiMH, or 1000mAh NiCd).

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29234521)

Well. Yes. I didn't mean "Easy" as in we've mastered it, I meant it as in, since they're so small, I don't need an Alternator the size of a head to recharge it. My mistake for poor word usage. Should've said because of their size AND the ability to be recharged.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29233233)

It's said that if one gets too hot, and is under a certain amount of pressure on the inside, the battery can explode.

How is this exceptional? A can of water can explode if it builds enough pressure, which can happen if it gets too hot.

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (3, Insightful)

VoiceInTheDesert (1613565) | about 5 years ago | (#29233321)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Things that use L I batteries have exploded before in the past, it's just become common that everyone owns either an iPod or an iPhone, so when 13 or more stories arise of exploding Apple devices people take notice.

I'm not sure this is a correct assumption. Surely laptops and netbooks and hundreds of other models of phones all run on the same kind of Li+ battery, but only these ones are the ones that are exploding (or at least the ones that are reported). You can say what you want about which ones do and don't get reported, but exploding phones/computers I would think would get covered regardless of brand, leading me to believe that THIS particular Li+ battery (the iPhone) is at least somewhat more suspectible to explosion.

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (4, Informative)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | about 5 years ago | (#29233421)

I worked at Laptop shop with in-house technical support.

Guess what two pieces AREN'T covered for in the Warranty? Battery and power supply. Even the Manufacturers warranty for the battery is shorter than the manufacturers warranty for the laptop. This is simply because they are succeptable to ALOT of failure. Now the great thing about laptop batteries is that they are usually completely encased in plastic, and if one "explodes" - its pretty difficult to tell. These explosions aren't like the ones you see on TV, they're small, probably no bigger than your thumbnail.

You see how slim the Apple Devices are? That pinhead explosion is enough to break the screen, just because the battery is RIGHT next to the screen.

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (4, Insightful)

mpe (36238) | about 5 years ago | (#29234085)

.Guess what two pieces AREN'T covered for in the Warranty? Battery and power supply. Even the Manufacturers warranty for the battery is shorter than the manufacturers warranty for the laptop. This is simply because they are succeptable to ALOT of failure. Now the great thing about laptop batteries is that they are usually completely encased in plastic, and if one "explodes" - its pretty difficult to tell

Also the battery in a typical laptop (even a typical phone) is an easily replacable part. Which isn't the case with the Apple devices.

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (0, Offtopic)

sexconker (1179573) | about 5 years ago | (#29233379)

Li-Ion batteries suck ass. NIMH is far superior.

But who am I to judge?
We're moving backwards in so many areas, opting for cheap, politically acceptable, "green", and in general appealing to the dumb masses instead of going for quality.

Power?
No nuclear for you. No hydroelectric for you.
Try natural gas, another non-renewable, inefficient, stinky ass resource that needs a huge infrastructure.
Try solar panels, the production of which will never be offset throughout the life of the panel.
In the meantime, keep burning that coal!

Cars?
Diesel is a dirty word. Better discourage that.
Instead we'll strain the electrical grid with plug-in electrics and make all the regular cars run on corn to give them shittier mileage and performance.

TVs?
CRTs may be the best display by far if you want any sort of picture quality. But let's push for shitty LCDs and plasmas. Do you know how much it costs to ship CRTs from China?

Schoolin'?
Don't worry, little Timmy might be a fucking moron, but no child will ever be left behind.

Economy?
If we just keep spending, we can fix anything.

Space shuttle?
It's a piece of shit, but let's keep it for a few more years. After all, otherwise we'd be stuck using the RUSSIAN'S spaceships for our pointless dickings around in high-orbit-but-not-quite-outer-space.

802.11n?
What, you mean you want it now?
But we're still reviewing the draft! Go buy a draft-compatible router and hope we don't change the specs and that it isn't a piece of shit.

Communications infrastructure?
Roads/bridges/trains/etc?

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (2, Insightful)

Aphoxema (1088507) | about 5 years ago | (#29233867)

Who in their right mind would send the murder weapon to the murderer, first class?

It's not the best analogy, but the fact is these people can not trust Apple with the evidence, it might get "lost", and no matter what Apple says the problem is they sure as hell aren't sending back the unit.

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (0, Troll)

geekoid (135745) | about 5 years ago | (#29235559)

what do you base that on?
Apple has pretty good support.

And why would the send the unit back? Wouldn't the owners want theirs replaced?

At some point they're going to need to ahve someone investigate the actual iPod.
To any trained person, it will be very obvious what caused this pretty quick.

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (1)

quatin (1589389) | about 5 years ago | (#29234585)

Except a smart design would monitor temperature and current draw of the battery and have a shut off switch if either gets too high. Li batteries are safe if used in a competent manner.

Re:Lithium Ion Batteries (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29235501)

actually, this is both old news (Apple already received then units, and commented that all 11 ruptured due to external, not internal pressures exrted on the devices, and none of this was consistent from device to device) but further, and more to the point, the 3GS does NOT use a LiIon battery, but an advanced LiPo battery, which is not subject to cascade cell faulure, nor outgassing when overheated. Further, since LiPos have a MUCH greater discharge rate, shorting the battery alone is not a danger where with LiIon this will almost certainly cause dangerous conditions.

the biggest accident (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29232887)

The biggest accident is that the iPhone was ever released to the public.

Clearly (5, Funny)

VoiceInTheDesert (1613565) | about 5 years ago | (#29232899)

This is all lies and slander. Don't you guys watch Mac adds? They don't HAVE any issues. They work all the time and never glitch up, much less explode! Psh to all this microsoft propaganda.

Re:Clearly (1)

nomadic (141991) | about 5 years ago | (#29233513)

Yes, now go put your ipod headphones on, and dance in such a way that we just see your silhouette against a brightly colored background.

Re:Clearly (3, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | about 5 years ago | (#29235585)

Actually it's my shadow. He sneaks off and steals my iPod and dances like a fool.
I need to talk to Wendy about getting my shadow sewn back on.

Did you hear the one about (0)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | about 5 years ago | (#29232901)

the guy with the iInjury?

Re:Did you hear the one about (1)

Dyinobal (1427207) | about 5 years ago | (#29232913)

There's an app for that.

Re:Did you hear the one about (2, Funny)

spamking (967666) | about 5 years ago | (#29234357)

Spray some Windex on it!

iPhone, it's the hottest phone on the market (2, Informative)

alen (225700) | about 5 years ago | (#29232919)

my 3GS tends to heat up a lot more than my blackberry. when i use the cell phone app i can feel the back getting warm

Re:iPhone, it's the hottest phone on the market (4, Insightful)

sexconker (1179573) | about 5 years ago | (#29233401)

The cell phone app?
You mean, when you use the FUCKING PHONE as a FUCKING PHONE?

On a side note, I think I need a new phone.
Mine is starting to get hot whenever I make calls. Never used to before.

Re:iPhone, it's the hottest phone on the market (2, Funny)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 5 years ago | (#29233477)

Mine is starting to get hot whenever I make calls. Never used to before.

You might want to cut down on those 900 numbers. I'll bet your phone cools off after that.

Re:iPhone, it's the hottest phone on the market (1)

geekoid (135745) | about 5 years ago | (#29235601)

and get's less sticky.

Re:iPhone, it's the hottest phone on the market (1)

alen (225700) | about 5 years ago | (#29233753)

i use my phone as a phone maybe 45 minutes a month. i'm on a 700 minute family plan with 3 other phones. but last month i used around 2GB of data. my in-laws with their cheapo samsung flip phones use up most of the minutes

Re:iPhone, it's the hottest phone on the market (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29235005)

no .. you moron .. the phone application is just another fucking app. It just happens to have access to the speaker/microphone/phone network.

Dante's iNferno? (5, Funny)

fimchick (1448001) | about 5 years ago | (#29232931)

If your iPhone explodes and kills you, do you go to Apple Hell where everything runs on Windows?

Re:Dante's iNferno? (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 5 years ago | (#29232987)

If your iPhone explodes and kills you, do you go to Apple Hell where everything runs on Windows?

Nope. You're just stuck with the system you came with and you cannot ever upgrade. How's that for Fanboi hell. No Shiney!

Re:Dante's iNferno? (3, Funny)

maxume (22995) | about 5 years ago | (#29233263)

Isn't that where we are now?

Re:Dante's iNferno? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29233631)

Inferno is based off Plan 9, not Windows.

http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/

you got it backwards (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29234287)

If you get killed by your exploding iPhone, it's like a suicide bombing. You don't go to Apple hell, you go to Apple paradise, where the Apple martyrs are given 70 virginal Apple prerelease products and 70 Apple desktop computers.

Whatever, this is MS fud! (2, Funny)

Em Emalb (452530) | about 5 years ago | (#29232997)

Obviously this strategic move by Apple to created a 7 in one device (phone, email, text, game platform, camera, photo album, grenade) and MS can't handle it.

non disclosure (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29233011)

"..and we are waiting to receive the iPhones from the customers..."

Guess they are going to be waiting a LOOOOONG time since they wanted the victims to sign non disclosure agreements if they wanted a refund.

I mean what kind of idiot would send back a dangerously faulty item if they knew the company was going to try and cover it up.

Manufacturing? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29233023)

The more that companies have moved Western production (American, EU, Japan, Canada, etc) to Chinese manufacturing, the more injuries there has been occurring. I wonder if the price saved is worth the lawsuits?

Yes. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29233177)

The more that companies have moved Western production (American, EU, Japan, Canada, etc) to Chinese manufacturing, the more injuries there has been occurring. I wonder if the price saved is worth the lawsuits?

Yes.One mention of GM's cost benefit analysis. [encyclopedia.com] Saving just $2.40 per vehicle was worth having a couple of folks get killed. The Apple stuff won't kill anyone. The suits are chump change compared to what they're saving.

Face it fanboys, Apple is just like any other big corporation.

Re:Manufacturing? (3, Interesting)

commodore64_love (1445365) | about 5 years ago | (#29233309)

>>>I wonder if the price saved is worth the lawsuits?

Well Ford performed this analysis in the 70s when they had a rash of exploding Pintos, and their accountants determined "yes" it's cheaper to pay-off the families of dead drivers than to spend the million-or-so on reengineering and fixing the problem. Besides the Pinto would eventually be phased-out anyway and replaced with a new 80s model, so the problem would solve itself, therefore just keep paying-off the victims to be silent (sound familiar?).

I suspect today's accountants are saying the same thing - "The money saved by shipping cheap goods from China or India is cheaper than the money paid-out to people with burned hands." Of course this is why we have a government - to protect our individual rights from those persons who would do us harm.

Re:Manufacturing? (4, Insightful)

StikyPad (445176) | about 5 years ago | (#29233861)

The money saved by shipping cheap goods from China or India is cheaper than the money paid-out to people with burned hands.

I think you meant it's cheaper to pay out people with burned hands than to correct a design flaw. Presumably the product would still be assembled in China, regardless.

Re:Manufacturing? (1)

sexconker (1179573) | about 5 years ago | (#29233425)

Japan is Western now?

I always knew East vs. West was bullshit, since the earth is spherical.

But at least stick to your own fucking definitions.

Re:Manufacturing? (2, Insightful)

CannonballHead (842625) | about 5 years ago | (#29233697)

The sun doesn't rise, either. I enjoy a good morning earth turn.

Re:Manufacturing? (5, Insightful)

fiannaFailMan (702447) | about 5 years ago | (#29233917)

I don't know where they were manufacturing before, but I have noticed a huge drop in the quality of Apple's hardware. I've bee a Mac aficionado since the early 1990s but my latest computer from them, a Macbook, is the first Mac I have actually hated. First there are the sharp edges that hurt my wrists. Then there are the edges that soon broke off. Then there's the fact that it freezes and applications seem incapable of quitting without crashing. Then there's the power adapter that heats up so much I have to use an oven glove to unplug it. Then there's the battery that heats up so much I can't even set the damn thing in my lap. I never thought I'd say this, but I hate my Mac!

Re:Manufacturing? (0, Troll)

Ecuador (740021) | about 5 years ago | (#29235439)

You are obviously a troll. My employer gave me a free Macbook (they asked me to develop for the iphone, so they had to I guess) and it is great... oh wait, it is great because I gave it back! Compared to a $400 Lenovo (after coupon) I bought at about the same time, it proved slower, heavier (with smaller screen at the same time!), hotter and with a retarded power adapter that falls off most of my (US) outlets and is a pain to unplug from the laptop side (when the plug is tiny and slippery, magnetic does not help much). Oh, did I mention you have to do silly tricks (closing the lid etc) to get the dual screen setup to work? The only thing on par with the Lenovo was the sharp edges you mention, which, sadly, the Lenovo did not avoid either (seriously, is that a new trend? I don't remember my older laptops trying to slit my wrists). As for development, I had them get me a new mac mini. It is not faster, it is only marginally less expensive, but it works adequately on a KVM with the same dual monitor & keyboard/mouse setup I have for my Linux machines and does not drive me nuts near as much as the Macbook (well the OS still annoys me greatly at times, but I guess it is not the hardware's fault - I could run Linux if only I did not have to develop on Xcode...).

How many have actually exploded? (0, Redundant)

Red Marker (1598743) | about 5 years ago | (#29233039)

I've seen lots of links and stories about the kid in Paris who got glass in his eye, and apparently he won't turn over the iPod for testing. Apple says they're aware of fewer than ten [google.com] incidents, and that these all seem to be caused by "external force", not battery issues.

There are millions of iPhones out there. Until there are some credibly documented cases where an iPhone exploded due to a factory defect, I'll assume that there's no story here.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to x-ray my can of Pepsi [snopes.com] .

Re:How many have actually exploded? (2, Insightful)

sexconker (1179573) | about 5 years ago | (#29233455)

Damned external forces.

Gravity.
Atmospheric pressure.
Radiation pressure from the light of your mackbook pro's lcd.

I thought the reality distortion field was supposed to block such harmful forces.

Video of lithium battery explosion (2, Interesting)

bzzfzz (1542813) | about 5 years ago | (#29233051)

Something to keep you entertained [youtube.com] until we get actual video of exploding devices.

It is difficult to imagine that an explosion could be caused by any other components in the device. The battery is supposed to be double fused which limits the amount of power to other components, but if there is a failure within the battery itself, the results can be dramatic.

Re:Video of lithium battery explosion (1)

v1 (525388) | about 5 years ago | (#29233497)

batteries of this type typically have a fuse inside the pack, between two cells, so that in case the pack is shorted right at the contacts as they come out of the battery, that fuse will still go. Then there's sometimes another fuse inline with the leads or where one of the leads emerges from the pack. Manufacturers sometimes skip that one. But most products also have a microfuse on the board in series with the battery power which is why they can call it double-fused. One in the battery, and one on the board.

Especially with small products, they omit the external fuse on the battery, because it's not meant to be changeable/serviced anyway..

Don't Panic (4, Funny)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | about 5 years ago | (#29233057)

I'm typing this on my iPhone right now, and everything is just fi

Re:Don't Panic (1)

DefecatingMasonry (1256104) | about 5 years ago | (#29234445)

I'm typing this on my iPhone right now, and everything is just fi

Thoughtful of Apple to include the submit post on explosion feature...

Like Sharks (-1, Flamebait)

sexconker (1179573) | about 5 years ago | (#29233075)

The EU smells money.

Will Apple escape? Or will the EU leech off of them endlessly like they do with MS?

Re:Like Sharks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29233433)

That's right, the entire EU is run by unpaid fines from overzealous monopoly abusing American corporations (one of which makes all of its products in China). Oh noes, whatever will we do now a dweeb has rumbled the ruse?

Re:Like Sharks (2, Insightful)

oneirophrenos (1500619) | about 5 years ago | (#29233529)

The EU smells money.

Will Apple escape? Or will the EU leech off of them endlessly like they do with MS?

Should the EU not intervene on behalf of its citizens? I think this is exactly the kind of thing a governmental body should do, step in to protect people when corporations decide to do something stupid.

Re:Like Sharks (1, Troll)

sexconker (1179573) | about 5 years ago | (#29233889)

Ah, but when the result is simply fines and no real change to the operation of the company...

What?!? (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | about 5 years ago | (#29233099)

No "incidents" caused by overuse of the "vibrate" feature?

Re:What?!? (1)

drseuk (824707) | about 5 years ago | (#29234331)

Well, since my gf discovered the iVibe app, our electricity consumption has decreased dramatically and she's allowed me to smeg around coding in yesterday's undies since she's deemed our washing machine as being surplus to requirements. Obviously this was before she exploded. Someone should tell Al Gore.

Boom? (1)

snspdaarf (1314399) | about 5 years ago | (#29233139)

FTA:

if its start to make noises, raise smoke or shake un normally, itâ(TM)s a sign something is about to happen.

Are we talking iPhone, or Mt. St. Helens?
Seriously, I would like to think that there would be some way to overload protect things to prevent this. I know lithium batteries are special, but why can't there be some element that opens up to prevent the phaser on overload scenario?

Re:Boom? (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about 5 years ago | (#29233551)

I liked that bit too, because it suggests that there are kids out there who DON'T realize that if their phone is smoking, that's a bad sign.

You F4il It!? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29233145)

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Get to know when your iPhone is about to explode. (-1, Redundant)

Animats (122034) | about 5 years ago | (#29233175)

Get to know when your iPhone is about to explode. [makeipodsafe.com]

  1. Keep the device away from you. If you are using iPod for music or iPhone to talk to someone or surfing, use the head sets, ear phones and Bluetooth devices.
  2. Be aware of changes in the device. If the iPhone is getting hotter, if its start to make noises, raise smoke or shake un normally, it's a sign something is about to happen.
  3. Use safety devices for your iPhone and iPod. Any kind of cover, plastic cover can save you when the iPhone is about to explode when the plastic cover will absorb most of the pieces which are about to blast away.
  4. Listen to your iPhone and get to know when the iPhone is about is explode in you hand on in the pocket. When you feel this is the time, the best thing to do is to throw it away and let the iPhone explode far from you. Later on, please collect all the pieces.

Re:Get to know when your iPhone is about to explod (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29233243)

haha-stupid filter- hahahahahahahaha

Re:Get to know when your iPhone is about to explod (1)

maxume (22995) | about 5 years ago | (#29233403)

Why are you linking and reposting their advertisement? "Listen to your iPhone and get to know when the iPhone is about is explode in you hand on in the pocket" is a dead giveaway that the page you linked was thrown together by someone who speaks English as a second language, probably the guy who wrote the iPop app advertised at that site.

Re:Get to know when your iPhone is about to explod (1)

Shikaku (1129753) | about 5 years ago | (#29233543)

Because it's true?

Lipo batteries pop and swell and get really hot before they explode.

a few things to add to that list (2, Funny)

v1 (525388) | about 5 years ago | (#29233517)

(*) Do not place ipod back in your pocket if it's on fire
(*) Do not huff fumes if your ipod is smoking
(*) Do not overheat your ipod to start your campfire
(*) Do not eat your ipod
(*) Not certified for use as a shark repellent

anything else you need to tell us?

Re:a few things to add to that list (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29234367)

Your very own Apple IPHONE will never threaten to stab you and, in fact, cannot speak. When you're done playing with it, you can euthanize it with a lighter. Although the euthanizing process is remarkably painful, 8 out of 10 Apple Science engineers believe that the Iphone is most likely incapable of feeling much pain.

One more... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29234385)

You forgot.

(*) Do not put your ipod in your ass if it's on fire. If it is not on fire, you can do that safely and behave like any other smug apple user.

Reality distortion field enforcement (1, Interesting)

Animats (122034) | about 5 years ago | (#29235287)

I see the Apple PR people are out in force, modding this down. It usually takes about 45 minutes to 2 hours for a post critical of Apple to be modded down, which may reflect the Google crawl and update delay. It would be fun if Slashdot graphed this. The usual trajectory is that something critical of Apple gets modded up in the first few minutes, then the Apple promoters get involved.

suspicious (2, Interesting)

TRRosen (720617) | about 5 years ago | (#29233275)

these latest reports sound just a bit funny to me. I know the iPod is built well but I just don't see the screen breaking before the back deforms. Remember these batteries don't explode they expand and then off gas flames. The description of the events just don't match what you would expect from a battery of this type failing in this device.
the first one in britain - yes
1 device is damaged by a drop
2 device begins to overheat
3 device shoots short burst of flames
this is how you would expect this device to fail.
But the last couple -- It just went pop and the screen shattered -- strange indeed, especially since the second seemed like he was reading the account of the first one line by line rather then telling something that happened to him.

iPhones rock (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29233503)

iPiss on linsux. fucking faggots.

Eh? (-1, Troll)

djupedal (584558) | about 5 years ago | (#29233573)

What the hell is an icon of a palm being used for? If you can plaster an Apple icon you can bother to download the correct image from Apple for the iPhone....

Oh, and these stories about exploding devices are just that...stories. This is just more of the long run of beating up on Apple in the press that apparently comes out of the UK...remember the claims of sweatshop conditions at the factory? Bogus...just like this latest fabrication.

Re:Eh? (1)

E IS mC(Square) (721736) | about 5 years ago | (#29234429)

True. Not everybody has succumbed to the RDF?? Unlike US media and public, others still have balls? That's SO WRONG, man!

Now pass on some of that kool-aid you are drinking. I am running out of them.

Car accidents are likely, not iphone explosions (1)

Fastfwd (44389) | about 5 years ago | (#29233579)

We all know people who drive cars and we all know people who have been in accidents.

We also all know people who own and use iphones, not as many but enough that if this was in any way frequent we would know about it. Maybe it does explode sometimes but what at what point does it become a threat? How does it compare to other similar smartphones?

Re:Car accidents are likely, not iphone explosions (1)

IRWolfie- (1148617) | about 5 years ago | (#29233853)

I can't be certain but I would wager it is not common for other smartphones to explode ...

You can't be too rich or too thin (4, Interesting)

zogger (617870) | about 5 years ago | (#29233963)

Modern fashion with gadgets is ultra thin and light, which is dangerous when it comes to lithium batteries. They are *delicate* and dangerous. This marketing decision leads to being not as good from an engineering standpoint (on being safe I mean) in designing the batteries, they are too subject to being smashed/bent, or have design and manufacturing screwups, and that leads to simple failure or catastrophic failure.

    This utter fixation on having the smallest most powerful batteries combined with their basic chemistry of heating and catching fire and having runaway reactions will inevitably lead to a lot of failures when you are making millions of units.

    And look at all this constant kvetching about battery life on laptops and so on. Geez, what a freekin non problem theoretically. If people could be content to carry the same weight they did just a few years ago, as if their girly man muscles could even handle the strain, oh the horrors, they could have *bigger and longer lasting and safer batteries*, probably cheaper as well, but every generation of new gadgets they insist on shaving some ounces and inches off. Well, you can do that to excess it appears. Battery tech has not quite kept up with other electronics miniaturization tech here, so you get problems. They can make the batteries smaller plus more powerful at the same time, but obviously it raises the risk factor. They are pushing it too close to the exploding edge.

Small, powerful, safe, pick two

Form is not necessarily your friend always over function. Perhaps if they take a few tens of million$ in cost in recalls and lawsuits this lesson of marketing versus engineering quality standards will sink in better. And any company that did that could turn it around in the market, use their new designed safer and more powerful batteries, albeit larger and heavier, as a marketing edge over just smaller and lighter. There could be some rather humorous ads along these lines showing the victim of the teeniest gadget walking around on fire and all charred all the time, just so he can stupidly brag how cool his new .5 ounce and 1/64th inch thick iXploder is...

"External forces" are the culprit (0)

101010_or_0x2A (1001372) | about 5 years ago | (#29234019)

according to the BBC. Apple has denied any legitimate claims about the battery exploding, and has said ""The iPhones with broken glass that we have analysed to date show that in all cases the glass cracked due to an external force that was applied to the iPhone.". And the fact that they used an "s" in "analysed" proves that its the BBC. Move on people, and lets see a post about the kidnapped 11 year old found after 18 years

Common practice (1)

LoudMusic (199347) | about 5 years ago | (#29234053)

It's fairly common practice that companies don't lay claims to their products breaking. But I find Apple are some of the worst about it.

fuck you slashdot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29234067)

Thanks for the linkbait to the UK advertising spam site that's using the latest tech news cycle bullshit to tabloid up some ads at me. What the fuck is this fucking shit? Digg?

Fuck you slashdot you fucking spamfags. Put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger. You're done.

Re:fuck you slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#29234131)

No ads for me. Guess you are not up to date about ad blocking technology?

Can I be the only one? (2, Insightful)

perlmangle (49439) | about 5 years ago | (#29234153)

Does no one else find the makeipodsafe.com site to be an obvious (and hilarious) parody?

* There are millions of Apple products out there at the customers...
* According to the last ones which already explode and went on fire...
* How to avoid iPhone from exploding
* Lots more...

And this? [makeipodsafe.com]

C'mon people; that's comedy gold.

Old story, Apple has commented on the issue (1)

dzfoo (772245) | about 5 years ago | (#29234167)

According to the BBC [bbc.co.uk] , Apple has analysed the reports and the returned iPhones and concluded that in all cases, "external force" caused the breakage, and that there is no indication of batteries overheating or internal explosions.

      -dZ.

Re:Old story, Apple has commented on the issue (1)

Naturalis Philosopho (1160697) | about 5 years ago | (#29234703)

Haven't there been a couple of discussions already this year regarding people who try to scam stores and warrantee service?

Re:Old story, Apple has commented on the issue (1)

dzfoo (772245) | about 5 years ago | (#29235181)

Yes. My guess is that there are at most a very few number of strange incidents which warranted genuine investigation by Apple (perhaps just a couple), but since the anomalies were touted all over the web as "OMGBBQWTF!!! exploding iPodz!!1one! FAIL!", some people have tried to take advantage of the bad press to extort a refund from Apple.

In any case, if Apple is to be given the benefit of the doubt, the incidents have been much over-stated.

      -dZ.

France.. (4, Funny)

kevinNCSU (1531307) | about 5 years ago | (#29234479)

There's been several exploding iPhone incidents in France. While Apple claims they are isolated unintentional incidents the French Government issued a formal Surrender to Apple just in case.
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