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GREAT! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29260349)

Woooo, time for some more G rated comic movies.... *sigh*

Re:GREAT! (5, Insightful)

Philip K Dickhead (906971) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260919)

The great suckage.

I buy no Disney. They are cultural programming of the lowest order. You want a rotten child? Let them watch Disney channel 2 hours a day.

If you could contrive propaganda aimed at undermining basic human values, specifically that of respect, you could do no better than to come up with this garbage. It is particularly detrimental to the child / parent relationship - always portrayed as a way to manipulate or deceive the old buffoons.

Disney is death.

Re:GREAT! (5, Informative)

camg188 (932324) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261039)

Don't worry about that.
Disney also owns Touchstone, Miramax, Hollywood Pictures, ABC and ESPN. The original reason Disney bought Touchstone was to release non-G rated movies separate from the Disney label.
Touchstone, Hollywood and Miramax all release R-rated movies including the likes of Kill Bill, Pulp Fiction, No Country for Old Men, Reservoir Dogs, The Crow and Con-Air.

Bye bye marvel... (5, Insightful)

CRiMSON (3495) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260361)

It was a nice run while you had it, Enjoy doing princess disney stories forever more now.

Re:Bye bye marvel... (1)

Absolut187 (816431) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260397)

Yes.

Bad news for anyone who like mature-themed comics and movies.

The Marvel line-up:
X-Men. Ironman. Punisher. Spider-man (already sucked).

Thank god Batman is DC comics.

Batman and Porky Pig (5, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260541)

Thank god Batman is DC comics.

DC Comics is part of Time Warner. So is Porky Pig.

Re:Batman and Porky Pig (2, Interesting)

szo (7842) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260585)

I'll take Porky, Bugs Bunny and especially Animaniacs over anything from Disney thanks all the same.

Fox and New Corp (2, Interesting)

mollog (841386) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260741)

I hate Fox and Rupurt Murdoch, but they were the ones to push the envelope with media. It's too bad Fox didn't have the foresight to buy properties like Marvel so that the seriously adult themes in comics can be fully developed.

Re:Batman and Porky Pig (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29260873)

Gargoyles was produced by Buena Vista Television. A division of Disney.

Re:Batman and Porky Pig (3, Funny)

Chelloveck (14643) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261125)

DC Comics is part of Time Warner. So is Porky Pig.

And I, for one, am still waiting for the Batman/Porky Pig The Brave And The Bold team-up issue! Come on, Time-Warner, where's the fan service?

Re:Bye bye marvel... (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260703)

> ...mature-themed comics and movies.

For certain values of "mature".

Re:Bye bye marvel... (4, Interesting)

mollog (841386) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260883)

These comics came of age in the time of existentialism right after WWII. Many of the original themes, especially for the better comics, were those very adult issues of moral relativism, personal responsibility vis-a-vis society, and other challenges to society.

We can't expect Disney to extend these adult issues in a format that might appeal to younger audiences. Indeed, we can't really expect Disney to even appreciate the history of comics from that era.

Re:Bye bye marvel... (4, Interesting)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261027)

Umm. Disney has earned their reputation for bowdlerized drivel; but they are part of the history of that era(some of their wartime propaganda work, especially the pacific theatre stuff, is "interesting"). They've been around since 1923. Any lack of understanding of that period on their part is simply pandering to tastes that don't like very adult issues, not a product of any historical gap.

Re:Bye bye marvel... (3, Interesting)

confused one (671304) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261121)

Disney was around at that time. They've been slaughtering Grimm's Tales since 1923. (Trust me, Grimms Fairy Tales are much better in their original form...)

Re:Bye bye marvel... (2, Insightful)

Forge (2456) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260713)

If Disney has 1% of the business sense I think they do they will keep the Marvel brand separate and use it as the vehicle for any mature or violent content that come into their possession.

Of course they could all be drooling idiots over there, in which case, expect to see an Iron-man who never drinks, Wolverine who never kills and Mephistopheles who is just a male version of Cruela Devile.

However, everything I have seen so far suggest that Disney is run by the same kind of stone cold business men who Make cigarettes. I.e. No concern for the product or the customer except in so far as adjusting either help them to make money.

Re:Bye bye marvel... (5, Funny)

eln (21727) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260775)

Just wait until Spider Man 4, in which Peter Parker is involved in a love triangle with Hannah Montana and Nick Jonas. Will Nick and Peter be able to work out their differences through song and dance numbers before the big prom? Or will their constant bickering cause Hannah Montana to fall into the arms of the local bad boy, Wolverine? And if she does, will she learn the error of her ways before he tries to kiss her before they're even married at Tony Stark's big alcohol-free party? And will Zac Efron be able to save her and teach her that the only way to true happiness is dating nice boys, abstinence, and wearing knee-length or longer skirts?

The possibilities are endless!

Re:Bye bye marvel... (3, Insightful)

AmigaMMC (1103025) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260831)

I don't think anything is going to change on that aspect. I worked for Disney for 5 years and they're not likely to change a winning formula.

Re:Bye bye marvel... (1)

Dyinobal (1427207) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260401)

It's a shame the Marvel universe is awesome. Oh well though, lets try to stay positive maybe everything they produce won't suddenly utterly suck beyond belief.

Re:Bye bye marvel... (3, Insightful)

nomadic (141991) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260521)

Marvel used to have a good universe, but it has just been mined and re-mined and used up. It is nothing that Marvel did wrong, just eventually fictional universes run out of steam. When you have to "reboot" or "reimagine" your titles every few years you know you're pretty much done.

Re:Bye bye marvel... (4, Interesting)

SputnikPanic (927985) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260425)

I doubt that Disney will interfere much with Marvel's comics, I just hope they give Marvel's movie-production division as much autonomy.

Re:Bye bye marvel... (5, Funny)

j00r0m4nc3r (959816) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260777)

With great autonomy comes great responsibility

Re:Bye bye marvel... (0, Offtopic)

miliambar (1399345) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261175)

For some reason a lot of the people I know seem to think that the responsibility gets transferred to the government...don't know why they think that way

Re:Bye bye marvel... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29261201)

With great anatomy comes great responsibility

Fixed that for you... now queue the music!

Re:Bye bye marvel... (1)

daringone (710585) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261093)

You obviously have more faith in them than I... well, *anyone*, else does. I can already see the ending of X-Men 4 where all the good and evil mutants get together at the end and like each other with the movie ending in a massive 5 minute song about friendship.

Re:Bye bye marvel... (1)

piojo (995934) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260723)

Disney didn't mess with Pixar too much, when they acquired them. If Marvel has a strong leader and wants to maintain its autonomy, it probably will.

Re:Bye bye marvel... (4, Informative)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260829)

Disney didn't mess with Pixar too much, when they acquired them.

Conditions were laid out as part of the deal [wikipedia.org] to ensure that Pixar remained a separate entity.

Re:Bye bye marvel... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29261055)

It was even better than that. They promoted Pixar's John Lasseter to Chief Creative Officer of Animation for Disney. So in a sense, it was Pixar that got to mess with Disney after the acquisition. And given Pixar's track record, that's definitely a good thing.

Re:Bye bye marvel... (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260931)

...princess disney stories forever more

Hundreds of millions of young girls with paying parents are bouncing off the walls in anticipation of Marvel branded princess stories. Disney suits drool at the prospective profits. Disney is an expert in the premise: It doesn't have to be good to make steaming buckets of money. Sorry old Marvel demographic, you are being phased out.

Re:Bye bye marvel... (2, Funny)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261209)

And they have a whole new lineup to work with:

Princess Mary Jane
Princess Sue Storm
Princess Elektra
Princess Dark Phoenix

Actually...I'd watch that last one.

great! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29260367)

Does this mean that we can expect to see unending series of cash-in sequels, like Spiderman 3, Fantastic Four 3, Iron Man 2, X-Men 4, etc?!? Oh wait...

Re:great! (4, Informative)

FooAtWFU (699187) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260495)

Sounds like it....

10:32: Disney: Cost savings were not the big driving reason for the deal. What really drives is synergies over time. It will create enhanced growth rate for Disney over time.
10:33: Iger: Even with DVD sales slowing, movies with strong, brand name characters such as Marvel characters will hold up better than others. "It's not bulletproof"

-- WSJ coverage of investor call (ongoing) [wsj.com] emphasis mine

Re:great! (1)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260505)

Does this mean that we can expect to see unending series of cash-in sequels, like Spiderman 3, Fantastic Four 3, Iron Man 2, X-Men 4, etc?!? Oh wait...

It might be morbidly amusing to see how Disney retcons and bowlderizes some of the more questionable characters. G-rated Marvel Zombies? Lobo?

Re:great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29260853)

Lobo is DC...sheesh... pay attention.

Re:great! (1)

Dr_Ken (1163339) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260989)

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. All the back stories and histories are likely going to fall down the memory hole via retcons until the Marvel characters have the same blandness that you see in the Archie comic series.

Re:great! (5, Insightful)

CodeBuster (516420) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260691)

Yes, except now Disney-fied [wikipedia.org] and sanitized (look no blood!) to assure parents that little johnny won't be lead astray by those no-good comic books. If you thought that the Comics Code Authority [wikipedia.org] was bad, just wait until Disney sinks their claws into the Marvel brands. I do not see how this can be considered to be good for comics in general and Marvel in particular. In fact, it will probably hasten the decline of American comics in favor of edgier manga and graphic novels coming out of Japan (a trend which was already clearly evident even before this latest deal).

A good fit (5, Insightful)

KingSkippus (799657) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260393)

Marvel... The company that sued NCsoft [slashdot.org] for making a game in which superheroes could be constructed because some of them could be made to look like Marvel characters? And then it turned out that the most egregious violators were actually Marvel employees [slashdot.org] ?

Sounds like a good fit to me, I'm sure the companies will be really happy with each other.

Hulk vs Donald Duck (5, Funny)

elh_inny (557966) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260403)

Finally...

Those clashes between Marvel characters and DC Comics ones got boring so now it's time for:
Daisy vs Wolverine
Pinocchio vs Spiderman
Cinderella vs Juggernaut

If they film any of those I am soo going to see this..

Fables (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260595)

Those clashes between Marvel characters and DC Comics ones got boring so now it's time for:
Daisy vs Wolverine
Pinocchio vs Spiderman
Cinderella vs Juggernaut

You have a point about Daisy Duck, but for the other two, Fables [wikipedia.org] is DC, not Marvel.

Re:Cinderella vs Juggernaut (4, Funny)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261051)

How about the trend towards "Young ___" ?

Young Cindarella: "Juggy, you're ruining my flower garden!"
Young Juggernaut: "Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!"

Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck (1)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260659)

Considering DC Comics is owned by Warner Bros., we might finally see Donald vs. Daffy.

Re:Hulk vs Donald Duck (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29260821)

Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical (1)

1sockchuck (826398) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260405)

An obvious brand extension: Hey, Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman can both sing, right? Kidding aside, Disney execs would be well-served to remember that "with great power, comes great responsibility."

Re:Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29260693)

Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical

I wish I could only imagine this as a joke, and not believe it could actually happen.

Re:Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29261229)

Hey, it worked for Superman:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_musical

And there was a Spiderman Broadway production in development.

Re:Coming Soon: X-Men, The Broadway Musical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29261177)

Be careful what you wish for.

Spider-Man On Broadway: http://spidermanonbroadway.marvel.com/

Oh goody... (2, Funny)

gregg (42218) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260423)

Now we get to look forward to Donald Duck and Howard the Duck crossovers.

Marvel vs Capcom vs Disney anyone? (2, Interesting)

erac3rx (832099) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260431)

All I can say is, if this opens the door for a sequel to Marvel vs. Capcom 2 including all of the famous Disney characters I am all for it. It would be a lot of fun to whoop some Mickey Mouse or Snow White azz with characters from the Marvel roster. You know you want to, just admit it.

Re:Marvel vs Capcom vs Disney anyone? (1)

rawls (1462507) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260739)

So much for Marvel versus Capcom 3.

I guess that all we have to look forward to now are games like:

Mickey & Pals become bff with Marvel

Now the Biggest Question? (5, Interesting)

dorkbot (764414) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260445)

Universal uses Marvel trademarks in one of their Theme Park (Universal's Island of Adventure) in Central Florida. Will Universal continue to pay for these Likeness rights when they are to a rival company?

Re:Now the Biggest Question? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260665)

Universal uses Marvel trademarks in one of their Theme Park (Universal's Island of Adventure) in Central Florida. Will Universal continue to pay for these Likeness rights when they are to a rival company?

Not necessarily. When Paramount used to own Kings Island in Cincinnati, Ohio, the park still had a themed area devoted to Hanna-Barbera, a Warner Bros. imprint.

strategy (1)

BigHungryJoe (737554) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260453)

Building on its strategy of delivering quality branded content to people around the world

that's a stupid strategy. what a dumb idea. It reminds me of Mr Burns - "Strawberry - hit a home run!"

Re:strategy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29260669)

"Okay, skip" (Hits a home run).

Translated as: (4, Interesting)

R2.0 (532027) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260455)

We've finally given up thinking of our own ideas and as soon as existing licensing deals run out we are going to squeeze the Marvel universe for everything we can get out of it, by giving it the "Disney" treatment".

Although... Pixar doing Marvel comics? Could be good.

Cool so we will have Cross Brand Cartoons with (1)

Coeurderoy (717228) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260459)

Doctor Strange against the Beagle Boys !

And Donald Duck will go rafting with wolverine...

And of course "Moovies": Xmens the clueless episode !!!
And Marvel theamed movies will always end "cute"

Somehow this does not seem a good news

I am so glad I'm not a major comic geek (1)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260467)

Or at least not very interested in mainstream American costumed super-hero books. Otherwise I'd be dying inside right now. I feel that way every time EA buys up another studio.

The bigger these behemoths become... (1)

taxevader (612422) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260491)

....the more power they have in influencing government policy and society's attitudes towards [insert controversial issue here]. The lobbyists already own Congress.

This is a Bad Thing.

can you say "price increase"? (3, Insightful)

prgrmr (568806) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260503)

Thought comic books were expensive now? Wait until Disney ups the price to help recover some of that 4 billion.

Re:can you say "price increase"? (1)

Hythlodaeus (411441) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260975)

I'm surely not the only one who reads an Orwellian twist to the phrase "quality branded content"

Re:can you say "price increase"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29261217)

At least now I'll feel fully justified pirating my weekly comics. Lately, though, Marvel comics aren't even worth reading for free.

Universal Orlando (3, Insightful)

Ken Hall (40554) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260539)

Wonder how this will affect the licensing for the Comic Book area at Universal Orlando long term. It's ALL Marvel, including the "Hulk" roller coaster.

I suppose it'll just continue for a while though, the whole thing is pretty incestous.

Contracts. . . (1)

JSBiff (87824) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260733)

I feel I'm on pretty solid ground predicting that all the Marvel stuff at Universal Orlando will last for *at least as long* as the terms specified in the original contracts between Universal and Marvel. Those terms are probably long enough to more than pay off the rollercoaster. If, at the end of the contract, Universal isn't ready to tear down that particular coaster and replace it with something newer, they can always rename the coaster, and remove the "Hulk" visual elements from the coaster.

Re:Contracts. . . (1)

Ken Hall (40554) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261143)

I agree that will probably be the case, but when/if it happens it will be a BIG hit for them, it's not just that coaster, it's the whole area, including the Spiderman ride, which is pretty much tied to the franchise. That and the Hulk are big draws, at least till the Harry Potter area opens next year.

Hopefully the contract is good for a while. It's fun there, I'd hate to see it torn up just because of licensing issues.

how does this affect my ethernet chip (0, Offtopic)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260583)

on my motherboard?

is disney going to extend the copyright and make the kernel driver extend some hundred years past the chips death?

will they only let the driver out every few years and then, its 'back in the vault' ?

maybe I have to find another ethernet chip vendor now..

Meh (3, Interesting)

Pitr (33016) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260657)

Marvel has been going downhill for a long time. So much so that I consider this deal to be part of a natural progression. Between poor writing and poor management, I haven't seen anything good from Marvel Comics since the late 90s, or maybe early 00s. Some of their movies have been good, some have been horrid. I know "continuity" is optional at best, but you can only "re-imagine" a plot so many times before it becomes complete drivel.

This deal will ruin Marvel like old mayonnaise ruins a dog crap sandwich.

Re:Meh (1)

Knux (990961) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261185)

I used to like the Marvel "Ultiverse", but it's amazing how they've managed to screw it up in a matter of months. A few new writers and it's just ruined. The Ultiverse should be a complete reboot of the traditional Marvel Universe, away from the continuity problems, but there you go.

Re:Meh (1)

The_Steel_General (196801) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261195)

Yeah, my first thought was "Whaaat?" but my *second* thought was "Marvel wanted to be a movie studio but couldn't make it work out" - this is probably more an indication of Marvel being in trouble than of Disney really looking forward to getting into the comic book market. And if not that, an indication that Marvel sees movies as its future and being unable to do them internally.

Although tween boys have always been a demographic hole for Disney, so maybe they're hoping to close it with this acquisition.

TSG

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.... (4, Interesting)

8127972 (73495) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260757)

... But doesn't Universal Pictures own the rights to many Marvel comic book movie properties? How's that going to work?

Re:Someone correct me if I'm wrong.... (1)

alen (225700) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261163)

a lot of these deals have time expiration clauses. and studios collaborate on a lot of projects all the time

Re:Someone correct me if I'm wrong.... (1)

confused one (671304) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261191)

If that's true, that will just be something to be worked out in the contract details... Universal owns the movie rights, Disney owns the character rights, I see a simple sharing of profits there.

Re:Someone correct me if I'm wrong.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29261225)

I was wondering the same thing, and how that will affect the Marvel rides at Universal Studios. Will they have to pay licensing rights to Disney now, and can Disney hike the rates so high that they will have to completely re-theme the rides?

Duck Trademarks (1)

LaminatorX (410794) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260759)

Pressure from Disney caused no end of problems and weird artwork for Howard the Duck comics over the years. At least there's one silver lining to be found.

Marvell Technology Group (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29260855)

Am I the only one who skimmed the title and thought something like "what does Disney want with semiconductors?"?

Finally! A justification for Howard the Duck! (5, Funny)

JoshDM (741866) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260869)

Not the movie, the Marvel character. Now Howard the Duck will finally be able to admit he's from the same universe as Donald. My inner geek is sated!

It's a sad, sad day for Marvel fans everywhere (1)

daringone (710585) | more than 4 years ago | (#29260945)

As a fan of Marvel characters (Wolverine being my favorite) I'm deeply saddened by this turn of events. I guarantee Disney won't be able to keep their hands off the properties, and will end up ruining them.

My brain added an extra L (1)

ALecs (118703) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261023)

Which made me wonder why Disney would need an semiconductor manufacturing company? Especially one without a fab.

Yes, that's right - not all slashdotters care about comics. /me defends his geek card against the ensuing calls to surrender it

Whoop. (1)

solios (53048) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261045)

They're a good fit from the standpoint that each company comes up with A Character and then proceeds to flog it for thirty years, squeezing every possible nickel out of it. Their characters never die (and when Marvel characters do, you can bet that if they're first-stringers it was done for sales and they won't stay that way for long).

Outside of Pixar, The Black Hole and Tron, Disney hasn't done much of interest to me - at least not in the sense in which they're being compared to Marvel.

Marvel is very good at the super hero thing - so good, in fact, that their business practices (rotating talent around books, no perma-death for major characters, etc) drove me over to DC's Vertigo books and independent comics with static, unchanging creative teams.

I've been out of the target demos of both companies for almost two decades, and while I'll keep a casually interested eye on the acquisition to see how (or if) things change on Marvel's end, I really doubt this will have an impact on the comics I buy.

Odds (1)

jmad777 (1254078) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261119)

Very sad day...... But bookies should start putting odds on who gets the axe 1st...... Even Odds: Punisher (excessive violence) X-Force (Go back to the no kill Mutants) All the heroines having to dress up (I'm gonna be saddened by that the most) Tony Stark having to give up drinking and womanizing in Iron Man 2 (heh) So the next Incredible Hulk movie will have Mickey mouse calming the Hulk down and trying to reach a solution through talks..............

They own a lot of things... (1)

ZackSchil (560462) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261147)

I wouldn't worry about this news very much. Disney owns a massive empire of entertainment companies that produce programming for all age groups.

They own Miramax Films and ESPN. They own Pixar. Not everything in their network is Disney-branded and dumbed down for children. Besides, Marvel didn't have any problem dumbing down their products for children before now. Maybe with Disney in the picture, they'll do a better job on Saturday mornings.

Cutification Follows... (1)

gsslay (807818) | more than 4 years ago | (#29261157)

Coming to Saturday Morning TV on a channel near you soon;

Baby Superheroes!

All your favourite superheroes portrayed as squeaky voiced, gooey eyed, 4 year-olds. Enjoy their warm hearted adventures as The Baby Fantastic Four encounter a mean-ol' cat in Grandpa's back yard. Thrill as Spiderbaby gets into high jinx on the nursery ceiling! Be dumbfounded as Baby Hulk throws a tantrum!

Oh yes. Can't wait.

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