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iPhone App Wins Microsoft-Campus Programming Contest

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the cross-platform dept.

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imamac writes "Startup Weekend was a 54-hour coding marathon held on Microsoft's campus last weekend. It was designed to encourage the use of MS programming technologies. However, the winner of the contest was an iPhone app: '"Awkward," whispered Startup Weekend organizer Clint Nelsen into the microphone upon announcing the top vote getter.'"

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One (-1, Offtopic)

Cornwallis (1188489) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277369)

and not two.

Can you say... (0)

Zantac69 (1331461) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277409)

iPwnt

Re:Can you say... (2, Funny)

SlashDotDotDot (1356809) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278371)

iPwnt

Actually, no, I can't.

The only way to win (-1, Troll)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277419)

is to not use Microsoft Technologies. Seems to make sense to me. Using Microsoft Technologies you get canned solutions that do things that have been done over and over before. Breaking from them allow you to make wonderful apps.

Apple apps vs. Micro$oft apps (1, Interesting)

mollog (841386) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277421)

Do'h!!

This could be the end of that little experiment. Rule 1 is don't say anything good about your competitor. I wonder how much air time this will get in the media. And I can see the Apple vs. Microsoft ads now. Sucks to be a 'softie right about now.

Re:Apple apps vs. Micro$oft apps (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29277621)

Do'h!! This could be the end of that little experiment. Rule 1 is don't say anything good about your competitor. I wonder how much air time this will get in the media. And I can see the Apple vs. Microsoft ads now. Sucks to be a 'softie right about now.

It has always sucked to be a Microsoftie. Poor bastards, desperate to feel like part of some big team yet anxious to believe that they really did choose Microsoft of their own free will rather than embracing them out of a defeatest sense of "can't beat em, so join em" and, as they are followers, the desire to be as mainstream and corporate as possible. This iPhone app didn't change anything, it just revealed something.

Re:Apple apps vs. Micro$oft apps (4, Insightful)

erroneus (253617) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277643)

I always thought rule one was "Make 100% sure Bill Gates won't be showing a crowd a BSOD!" Not saying anything good about the competition might be rule #2.

Re:Apple apps vs. Micro$oft apps (1)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278269)

Actually, Rule #1 says that only Bill can show the Monkey Dance video at internal MS meetings.

Re:Apple apps vs. Micro$oft apps (0)

stuboogie (900470) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277905)

Everyone knows that Rule #1 is "Don't talk about Fight Club."

Not so awkward (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277427)

What, was someone supposed to write an app for the Microsoft phone?

Re:Not so awkward (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29277571)

> What, was someone supposed to write an app for the Microsoft phone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile

Yeah, they kinda were...

Re:Not so awkward (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29277873)

Good fucking luck. I work at Microsoft and can't even get our development platform working with windows mobile.

Startup Weekend NOT An MS Event (4, Informative)

cmholm (69081) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277457)

The parent used a poor choice of words. Startup Weekend in general isn't an MS program, only the BizSpark program that helped organize this particular event.

Re:Startup Weekend NOT An MS Event (4, Informative)

bonch (38532) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277901)

Microsoft sponsored the event, and it took place on the Microsoft campus. What was incorrect about the wording of the summary?

Also held on Microsoft campus (5, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277931)

Granted it moves every year, but this year it was also held at the Microsoft campus - and the 14 other apps were all written for Windows Mobile.

Microsoft sponsored, at the Microsoft Campus, with mostly Microsoft apps - well, is it really so inaccurate to label it a Microsoft event even though technically it is not?

It's close enough to be funny anyway.

Re:Also held on Microsoft campus (1)

KahabutDieDrake (1515139) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278121)

Not to get too far offtopic, but your sig is highly interesting. Has it occurred to you that Bill and Steve did exactly that?

Who created whom? (1)

mollog (841386) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278251)

"Not to get too far offtopic, but your sig is highly interesting. Has it occurred to you that Bill and Steve did exactly that?" IIRC, Apple came first. And much about Microsoft is due to its aping Apple.

That Apple still survives is an artifact of anti-competitive laws. In this case, those laws have worked famously.

Re:Startup Weekend NOT An MS Event (5, Insightful)

Schnapple (262314) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278159)

Startup Weekend in general isn't an MS program, only the BizSpark program that helped organize this particular event.

Well let's give them a little credit in not requiring everyone to only use MS products and develop for MS platforms.

Inaccurate Summary? (5, Informative)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277459)

Actually, if you follow the link the first comment on TFA says:

Actually the Top Award was given to another startup, Search Kick. they got the MS prize but also the prize of the design incubator. the other prize, public vote, was given to learnthatname. all great projects !

I haven't bothered to confirm it, but that's the claim.

Re:Inaccurate Summary? (4, Informative)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277715)

Yes, and if you read the second comment - posted by the article's author - you'd see that the iPhone app received the most votes by far. It was not eligible for the prize money, though, since that specifically predicated it was for an app "built on Microsoft technologies".

Re:Inaccurate Summary? (1)

Korin43 (881732) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278057)

So if you ported mono to the iPhone and then write wrote an application using it, would that count? Since .net is a Microsoft technology, mono provides a .net framework, and the application is "built on" a Microsoft technology? Just wondering..

Re:Inaccurate Summary? (1)

aztracker1 (702135) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278295)

You can't execute scripted content on the iPhone outside of the tools given, so no full mono stack... though you can do an ahead of time build against mono, which a few people are doing... building or even testing such a beast out of Visual Studio is another issue.

Re:Inaccurate Summary? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29278323)

http://mono-project.com/MonoTouch

Re:Inaccurate Summary? (1)

Halotron1 (1604209) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277733)

Yeah, sounds like their only "award" was getting some freebie publicity on slashdot.

Apparently they missed the part about "$5,000 for winning the most votes as a startup building its application on Microsoft technologies"

Oops.

Anyways, IF they get approved by Apple, they only have to sell 1,672 times on the App Store to come up even with the team that used MS tech.

Re:Inaccurate Summary? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29277829)

You forgot Apple's cut of the sale price.

Re:Inaccurate Summary? (1)

Grishnakh (216268) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278207)

Maybe Apple will give them a good deal in exchange for the good publicity of this app winning at a MS-sponsored event amidst all the competitors using MS technologies.

Re:Inaccurate Summary? (2, Funny)

Yetihehe (971185) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277897)

If they submit it now, maybe someday their app will be approved by apple. Then they must wait half year and maybe they will finally get the money.

Re:Inaccurate Summary? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29278285)

Which wouldn't be bad after all. I wonder if MS (or a team there) successfully write applications for the iPhone, isn't that a great deal? You make money with your products, and money with the competition's products.

Congratulations to all the contestants! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29277461)

Nice to see that there is yet another generation of committed developers out there that don't mind being shackled so long as their shackles either look nice or are very popular.

54 hours? (3, Funny)

FranTaylor (164577) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277483)

That works out to two days, using my Microsoft calculator.

Re:54 hours? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29277611)

That works out to two days, using my Microsoft calculator.

That's what my Electronic Arts time sheet says also.

Re:54 hours? (1)

isama (1537121) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277685)

My intel Pentium 1 says the same!

Re:54 hours? (5, Funny)

iYk6 (1425255) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277939)

My Verizon rep says that 54 hours is the same thing as 54 minutes, which is less than an hour.

Re:54 hours? (1)

gollito (980620) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277821)

Offtopic? Does nobody understand humor here? Mod parent funny!

More Microsoft calculation (1)

FranTaylor (164577) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277919)

Funny at Microsoft's expense == -1, Offtopic

Re:More Microsoft calculation (1)

edraven (45764) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278451)

You must be new here.

Re:54 hours? (1)

flydude18 (839328) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277967)

I got three days using my public-school arithmetic, but just because you got the right answer doesn't mean you're better than me.

Re:54 hours? (1)

TypoNAM (695420) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278257)

You must be a programmer. I too keep MS Calculator in hex mode:

0x54 / 0x24 = 0x02

For those of you who are confused about the joke. :)

Re:54 hours? (1)

Tanktalus (794810) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278531)

/me is still confused.

$ perl -le 'print ( (1.0 * hex 54) / (1.0 * hex 24))'
2.33333333333333

Your MS Calculator is still the joke.

And the app does? (0)

BitHive (578094) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277493)

Nothing in the summary or TFA. What does this app do?

Re:And the app does? (5, Informative)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277515)

It's called "Learn That Name" and it's found in the second link from TFS [techflash.com] , not the first link.

did you even read?? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29277767)

He said confirm, faggot!

Re:did you even read?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29277933)

Sorry. The app is supposed to help you learn people's names. I guess that wasn't self-explanatory enough for you.

Re:And the app does? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29277525)

It wins contests, obviously.

Re:And the app does? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29277557)

Uh, does it matter? It's an iphone app!

Re:And the app does? (1)

xednieht (1117791) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277613)

Melts faces at MS

Re:And the app does? (1)

bertoelcon (1557907) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278479)

So its the App of the Covenant?

Yeah. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29277567)

There's an app for that, recursively.

Re:Yeah. (2, Funny)

Flea of Pain (1577213) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278621)

You what they really need? An app that gets apps accepted into the app store.

Then there's the App Store (4, Insightful)

lostpuppy (121909) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277601)

They shouldn't be able to win until apple accepts the app for download.

Re:Then there's the App Store (1)

bonch (38532) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277917)

It wasn't submitted to the store yet at the time of the contest.

Just some quotes, but TFS seems OK (1)

uassholes (1179143) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277629)

Startup Weekend is an intense 54 hour event bringing brilliant minds (entrepreneurs, VCs, developers, designers, marketers, lawyers etc.) together to create a company (or as many as companies as the participants decide) from concept to launch! Interactivity and forging...marketspeak bullshit, blah blah ...Microsoft "experts" will be present to will provide support for developers building applications on Silverlight, Windows 7 and Azure. We will have other...blah blah.

Learn That Name [learnthatname.com] , a new iPhone app designed to help people remember the names of people they bump into at events, won the most votes

I can't see that the TFS got it wrong, at least according to these quotes from the TFA.

Is there anything (-1, Flamebait)

mevets (322601) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277673)

that phone can't do.

Re:Is there anything (1)

swb (14022) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277737)

Heh, tether and send MMS, at least officially on AT&T in the US?

I also wish it had a "screen lock" mode where the touch screen (and optionally rotation) was locked but the display stayed on.

I find myself handing my phone to people to look at something and then they rotate/touch it and what I'm showing them gets changed.

Re:Is there anything (1)

sbeckstead (555647) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278605)

Actually he said "Can't" do but the phone can do both of those things. It may not do them in the United States. There is a difference.

Re:Is there anything (3, Informative)

Octorian (14086) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277739)

Run 3rd party apps in the background?

Let 3rd party apps integrate with the core software?

Let developers distribute apps to real devices without needing Apple's blessing?

(while not always as nice looking, other platforms don't have these limitations)

Re:Is there anything (4, Interesting)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277807)

Use an industry-standard USB cable for charging AND data transfer without having to resort to proprietary cabling?

Replace the battery?

Upgrade the memory?

Access the data onboard using "mass storage" (like USB memory stick) in the operating system of your choice without the need for proprietary software?

Re:Is there anything (1)

ipX (197591) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278235)

Access the data onboard using "mass storage" (like USB memory stick) in the operating system of your choice without the need for proprietary software?

Had to mount a jailbroken iPhone 3GS (not mine!) the other day, it's not too complicated. Install openssh on the phone and the root password is 'alpine'. There are screenshots here [fsckin.com] .

Not to diminish your (entirely justified) criticism of the platform, of course. :)

Re:Is there anything (1)

blackraven14250 (902843) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278267)

The USB thing sucks, for sure. I definitely agree that they should change that. It's unlikely, however, since Apple never has been the type of company to conform to industry standards.

Re:Is there anything (0, Flamebait)

jscotta44 (881299) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278203)

(while not always as nice looking, other platforms don't have these limitations)

...nor number of potential customers ...nor number of developers ...nor number of released applications ...nor stability ...nor success

Re:Is there anything (1)

Ukab the Great (87152) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278297)

Let 3rd party apps disable 911 functionality?

Let 3rd party apps make the keypad 5 pixels high and completely destroy the ability to use it as a phone?

Run background tasks that interfere with your ability to receive an important business call?

Re:Is there anything (1)

DeathMagnetic (1365763) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278599)

Ever hear of jailbreaking? These things are not limitations of the phone at all, only of its default configuration. Anyone who cares enough about those functions and is technically savvy enough to be trusted to use them responsibly, is quite capable of getting them.

For the record, I can't stand Apple and I'm certainly no fanboy, but my jailbroken iPhone simply offers more functionality than any of its competitors.

Re:Is there anything (1)

sbeckstead (555647) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278633)

The other platforms also don't seem to be selling as well despite having "Better Features". According to my friends that don't have the iPhone they also don't work that smoothly when they do do those things.

Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free! (4, Insightful)

gilesjuk (604902) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277697)

XCode is free, only deploying to a real iPhone/iPod and selling in the app store costs money.

Why should anyone pay money to develop for WinMo? it's market share has shrunk and C++ isn't a nice to write in as Objective C.

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (4, Insightful)

Joehonkie (665142) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277771)

Xcode is free if you've got a Mac. Otherwise it costs 1 Macintosh worth of dollars.

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277859)

And what, exactly, does one develop for the WinMo on? :)

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (1)

Terrasque (796014) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277997)

Pain, suffering and a lot of cash?

Just because im downloading it now, I want to mention that android sdk is freely avaliable for windows, mac and linux. Both 32 and 64bit :)

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (3, Interesting)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278141)

You can develop directly on your windows mobile pda.
You can also develop for windows mobile pda under linux.

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (4, Insightful)

k2r (255754) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278627)

> You can develop directly on your windows mobile pda.

You can remove your appendix using a toothpick sticked into your left eye...

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (0)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277959)

...it costs 1 Macintosh worth of dollars.

Inscribed on a 1 Mac bill: In Jobs we trust, everyone else pays cash.

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29278347)

For the record, the however-many-of-us who have jailbroken can program on any platform, and in a number of languages like Python and Java (both have bindings to the iPhone's Obj-C classes), and can get our apps onto our devices for free.

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29277799)

Doesn't the iPhone SDK cost like $100 or something?

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (-1, Flamebait)

bonch (38532) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277925)

No. Excellent research skills you have there.

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (5, Informative)

squallbsr (826163) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277971)

No, the iPhone SDK is a free download from ADC [apple.com] (you have access to it from the free developer account).

The $100 is for a code signing key that allows you to put those binaries on an actual iPhone and to submit it to the app store

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (2, Insightful)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278209)

So you can build all the applications you want. But if you want to actually run them on your iPhone, it's $100.

"We're giving away this car for free! But if you actually want to start it and drive it, you'll need to pay $50,000 for the key. Oh, and if you somehow tinker with the car so that you don't need to use this key, the car's warranty is voided."

Nice dance, fanboi. But if you want to develop applications for your own personal use on the iPhone, it'll cost you $100.

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (0, Troll)

Winckle (870180) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278369)

You can deploy it to a certain number of iPhones, including your own, for free, but for public distribution on the app store, that' s what costs $100.

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (1)

wumpus188 (657540) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278581)

No you can't. Installing and debugging app on the device requires Apple signed certificate (provisioning profile) and that costs $99. But then again, any sane developer can recover this cost in a few days of sales.

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (2, Insightful)

wumpus188 (657540) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278455)

You know, two months ago I gladly payed $100 second time for my iDP program. Fanboism has nothing to do with it - these costs were recovered on the first day of my app sales.

Some people spending money on apple stuff, some people are making money on the apple stuff.
Some are just posting on Slashdot.

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (1)

blackraven14250 (902843) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278281)

Only once you publish. They give you the SDK free, and the ability to put the software on X number of specific phones free, if you have a (free) Apple ID. To get it on the store it costs $100.

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29277909)

XCode is free, only deploying to a real iPhone/iPod and selling in the app store costs money.

Why should anyone pay money to develop for WinMo? it's market share has shrunk and C++ isn't a nice to write in as Objective C.

Objective C are you kidding me, what a stupid language, C# is truly the next best language.

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (1)

Wierdy1024 (902573) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277973)

Last I heard the preferred language(s) for WinMo was .NET managed code with the .Net micro framework so that means C# and VB.net - you'd probably use C++ today if you are maintaining a legacy app, or writing high performance stuff (although even then, the main app would probably be managed code with just the performance critical bits in native code)

Microsoft started charging for the WinMo SDK? (1)

argent (18001) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277999)

I haven't been in the loop on WinMo in a few years, since I gave up on my Jornada and switched back to Palm, but at that time the Windows Powered SDK was a free download from Microsoft.

Re:Microsoft started charging for the WinMo SDK? (1)

Trepidity (597) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278045)

The SDK part is still free afaik, but it only works with Visual Studio, which isn't. Apple differs by distributing the whole toolchain free (iPhone SDK + XCode).

Re:Microsoft started charging for the WinMo SDK? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29278061)

It remains free, you just need visual studio.

I am 90% positive that WinMo SDK works with the express versions though.

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (3, Informative)

beuges (613130) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278029)

Visual Studio Express is also free, as are the Windows and Windows Mobile SDKs. And you can develop in .net for WinMo using the .net Compact Framework, not only C/C++.

And it doesn't cost money to deploy to a real phone or list on an app store (and you dont run the risk of having your dev costs flow down the toilet entirely because Apple rejected your app).

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29278263)

Visual Studio Express is free as are the WinMo SDKs... but they don't work together. If you want to do WinMo development you need Visual Studio Pro, which isn't cheap. (Yes there used to be free tools, but they're deprecated now.)

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (4, Informative)

LaughingCoder (914424) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278043)

You can get a copy of Visual Studio Express here (it's free): http://www.microsoft.com/express/download/default.aspx [microsoft.com]

And you'll also need this WinMo 6.5 SDK (it's free also): http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=20686a1d-97a8-4f80-bc6a-ae010e085a6e [microsoft.com] .

FWIW, I developed for Windows Mobile / Smartphone for several years. The tools were all free. Back then they had something called Visual Studio Embedded (free of course). The best thing was I was able to write a single version of the application (a non-trivial multi-threaded, multimedia application with network connectivity) which ran on my Windows desktop as well as on Windows Mobile (aka Pocket PC) and Windows Smartphone. I did the vast majority of my debugging and testing on the desktop. Very rarely did I have to do any mobile-specific debugging, other than wrestling with the &*%^$# cell network (this was from 2001 through 2005, when pushing data through the cell network was barely functional).

Oh, and by the way, deploying to phones is free also. I don't need Microsoft's permission, nor do I have to pay them a fee.

Re:Encourage use of MS tech by making the SDK free (2, Insightful)

schreiend (1092383) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278265)

Encourage use of MS tech by providing a mobile OS that doesn't suck. The last two years I had to develop for WM, and every time I thought I cannot be disappointed more I was wrong.Â

Tangential? Maybe, but (1)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277761)

Does anyone know if Microsoft has any plans for Windows Mobile? It's old and slow, but I actually prefer the UI to the iPhone's. If they made a decent web browser they could be back in the game! I prefer the precision of the style to the fatfingered approach of the iPhone and Pre.

Re:Tangential? Maybe, but (1)

Dupple (1016592) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277937)

try this

http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windowsphone/archive/2009/09/01/windows-phones-are-coming-on-october-6th.aspx

Re:Tangential? Maybe, but (2, Interesting)

1shooter (185361) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277963)

If they made a decent web browser they could be back in the game!

Therein lies the flaw in your reasoning. If indeed.

Re:Tangential? Maybe, but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29278025)

>If they made a decent web browser they could be back in the game!

They've been trying to do that since 1995.

Re:Tangential? Maybe, but (1)

trapnest (1608791) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278113)

Opera works on most windows mobile devices.

Re:Tangential? Maybe, but (1)

tcdk (173945) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278125)

I still live with WinMo, but only because of the newest Opera Beta.... nice browser! http://www.opera.com/mobile/ [opera.com]

Re:Tangential? Maybe, but (1)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278169)

There are other browsers for Windows Mobile, like Opera, Iris, Skyfire or Netfront.
Firefox mobile is coming soon.

Re:Tangential? Maybe, but (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29278229)

Mozilla's Fennec [mozilla.org] will run on WinMo.

Re:Tangential? Maybe, but (1)

MrCrassic (994046) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278523)

Microsoft will (hopefully) be releasing Windows Mobile 7 at the end of the year. Their currently supported version is v6.1, though many people have happily upgraded to their (very) reliable v6.5 betas (myself included). WM7 will focus on an OS-wide finger-friendly UI (which WM6.5 sort of has, but not quite entirely) and improved usability.

Honestly though, its competitors are really starting to sap up all of their competitive advantages, which is starting to spell the beginning of the end for its relevance. The only reason why I haven't adopted an Android-based device is because of its lack of Exchange support.

As far as web browsing goes, Opera Mobile works very well on Windows Mobile, as does Skyfire (when it's not bugging out to the max).

Let me guess... (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277879)

...it's the start of the "extend" phase of their three step plan. ;)

Re:Let me guess... (1)

evil_aar0n (1001515) | more than 4 years ago | (#29278419)

I'm sorry. Was there an "embrace" phase, yet?

By now, MS's marketing team has reminded mgmt... (1)

mmell (832646) | more than 4 years ago | (#29277949)

Never ask a question unless you know absolutely how it's going to be answered!

"You consider yourself a smart shopper?" (yes) "You want to save money?" (yes) "Would you rather have an inferior product, or what I'm selling?" (your superior product).

NOT "So having heard all this which brand do you think is best?" (I'm still loyal to Commodore Amiga/Apple IPod/SheevaPlug/virtually anything with LINUX/the list goes on...)

D'oh!

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