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I hope the sensor bar can deploy airbags... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282297)

...because you'll need them with all the crashing that browser is going to do. Every browser that runs Flash 9 and up without some sort of isolation or sandbox crashes frequently. I hope it doesn't hard lock the console.

Re:I hope the sensor bar can deploy airbags... (1)

Rah'Dick (976472) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282715)

Maybe people will find new ways of injecting code and running their own stuff through manipulated SWFs - not sure if that's possible at all. If Nintendo intends on updating the browser once every three years, that's less often than their pushing of homebrew-disabling "updates".

Re:I hope the sensor bar can deploy airbags... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282817)

Don't think that would be necessary, it's already possible to execute arbitrary code on every version of the Wii firmware to date. Hackers have been doing a good job of keeping two steps ahead of Nintendo.

Re:I hope the sensor bar can deploy airbags... (4, Funny)

RoverDaddy (869116) | more than 4 years ago | (#29284513)

Well it won't happen here. Most slashdotters have no idea how to manipulate a SWF.

Re:I hope the sensor bar can deploy airbags... (2, Informative)

eric_brissette (778634) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283891)

I believe that I read in the update notes that the new browser is using Flash Lite 3.1, which is like Flash 8 only... lite-er?. At any rate, my first (and only) attempt to load Pandora caused the browser to lock up solid.

hahah finally :) (1)

bennito (1416305) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282301)

Oh this is just great! finally webgames on my wii! woohoo :) to bad the onscreen keyboard is a bit sucky :)

Re:hahah finally :) (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29284347)

Until the system runs out of memory loading a decent game.

The Wii is on the way down (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282331)

There are pretty much no new games for it. I think it has peaked and is on the way down. Too bad, though.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282507)

There are pretty much no new games for it.

That has been true of the wii for most of it's life, yet oddly...

I think it has peaked and is on the way down.

...it has a long way it would need to fall before it reaches the other two

Re:The Wii is on the way down (1)

am 2k (217885) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282513)

The game developers probably have realized that even though the Wii has a better market penetration, the people that have it at home just use it for WiiFit and similar stuff, not gaming. Nintendo is the only one gaining from the Wii sales.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282531)

The Wii has the highest number of third party million sellers this generation.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282999)

It's easy to make something look good when every other word is a qualifier.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29283163)

It's easy to make something look good when it's the Wii.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283339)

It's the third party games people want to know about, everybody knows that Nintendo's games sell craptons but people usually claim noone else can sell Wii games. Of course it only makes sense to compare within the running generation, older generations had more time to build their sales up and for most of the older generations it's not even feasible to make a new game anymore.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (3, Insightful)

Anne Thwacks (531696) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282567)

Wii have one, and ot be honest, wiifit is the only game worth playing - mostly because the developers have not followed the UI standards, and generally followed the same look and feel. The result is that the games appear badly implemented.

It may be that Nintendo do not supply guidelines in writing, but if the develoeprs had actually used a Wii before writing ther games, wii would not be faced with the POS tha is our limited choice. Several times we have gone out to buy games for a party or other excuse, and come back wiht dross because we felt obliged to buy *something*. Honestly, the Wii market is desperate for any new game that is playable.

I remain in home of a multi-player World Mapouka Championship, but I am not hlding my breath. (It it was released, I might end up holding some other part of my anatomy :-)

Re:The Wii is on the way down (1)

am 2k (217885) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282619)

Since Nintendo has to approve all games before they're brought to the market, that's mostly their fault.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282665)

Sony and Microsoft have to approve all games for their platforms too. In fact, this has been the case with pretty much every system by any company since the NES, to my knowledge.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29283523)

I suspect that the problem is more that they fail to reject craptacular games, than that symphonies of artful triumph are rejected for having the wrong number of harps.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (1)

Kamots (321174) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283699)

Give Okami a try. It was originally a PS2 game... but it was almost designed for the wii-mote while on the PS2, so the port made tons of sense, and it works out wonderfully. (You cast magic by drawing on the screen. Yes, even on the PS2 version)

Probably the worst GUI I have seen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29285155)

The Wii Fit GUI is about as bad as it can get. Sometimes a button is preselected, sometimes not. Sometimes you can exit with the B button, sometimes not. The number of times you must press A at the end of an exercise may eventually give you more muscle in your thumb than in your leg (or arthritis). Maybe it's because the Japanese fear over-exertion and insist on breaks.

Don't get me started on other inconsistencies, like being admonished to step faster when I'm already at the top speed allowed. Or being unable to jump directly to the complementary exercises that the game recommends. Not that I can find a reasoning which exercises Wii Fit deems complementary anyway. Speaking of breaks, if you do your recommended 30 minutes in three chunks as the game suggests, it'll still tell you to take a break after the third chunk, no matter how short that was. I could go on. This "game" insults my intelligence. If at least you could turn the background music off... you can't just mute the TV because you need the meagre audio feedback in some exercises.

Despite this I've managed to clock 260+ hours in the 500 days since Wii Fit came out, but I desperately hope that Wii Fit Plus will be a significant improvement to keep my motivation.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283393)

You've never tried the Wii Fit with a snowboarding game, have you?

I've bought over 30 games for it since I bought my console at the end of February. I also finally got around to replacing my old tube tv with a 50" 1920x1080p plasma tv and sound system [slashdot.org] - not to watch TV, but so that when my friends come over, they can better enjoy playing games. That DVDs look much better is a nice bonus.

Game developers took a while to warm up to the Wii, but now there are tons of titles, and the MotionPlus makes a difference. I expect more games to use it, and even better gameplay, over the next year or two.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282529)

I haven't bought a game since we got it. It was deadweight until I found the Homebrew Channel.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (4, Insightful)

pat sajak (1368465) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282539)

I don't know about that... Remember when the Wii was the "cheap" system? Now we have a $200 xbox and a $300 ps3, both half their original launch prices. But the Wii has actually gone up from $269 to $279 (inflation?). (Canadian prices) There's a reason the other guys are aggressively lowering their prices...

Re:The Wii is on the way down (1)

644bd346996 (1012333) | more than 4 years ago | (#29284285)

Did you think that Moore's law would apply to solid-state accelerometers? Most of the cost of an Xbox 360 or PS3 came from the high-end CPUs and GPUs, whereas the Wii's chipset was already at rock-bottom price. Also, Nintendo doesn't sell their stuff at a loss.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282545)

Everybody says this. I don't get it, unless by "games" they mean "first-person shooters." If you can look past all the cooking games and puppy petting simulators, the Wii has a lot of great titles that nobody seems to acknowledge.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (3, Informative)

cgenman (325138) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282621)

Wii Fit Plus
Wii Sports Resort
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Red Steel 2
New Super Mario Brothers
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
+ a bunch of 360 ports that probably won't be as good.
+ a bunch of sports games that are better on the Wii thanks to the Wii Motion Plus.

Post Christmas there is:
Mario Galaxy 2
Metroid: Other M
No More Heroes 2
+ a bunch of 360 ports that probably won't be as good.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282655)

Well, the Wii IS getting the best version of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare outside the PC version, if you can overlook the graphics being pretty dated by comparison.

Your list could be more comprehensive though, I'm really looking forward to Sin & Punishment 2, Red Steel 2 and the new Super Monkey Ball game for Wii Fit, among others.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (1)

AlXtreme (223728) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283249)

a bunch of sports games that are better on the Wii thanks to the Wii Motion Plus.

I'm still not sure the motion plus is a good move. They should have put more effort into it.

Resort is fun, but the motion plus add-on is relatively easy to confuse. Wave a bit around, and your sword / table tennis bat can already be slightly off (or point in a completely different direction).

Grand slam tennis also supports the motion plus, but it is even worse than Resort (does work well without motion plus though).

I hope they can iron out the bugs, because at the moment I wouldn't want to bet the future of the Wii on it.

Re:The Wii is on the way down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29284099)

Your motionplus is defective or you're doing something wrong. I've yet to encounter an issue like that, not even during heated swordplay sessions that have spanned several hours.

I'll buy an Apple product before I buy a Wii (-1, Troll)

thatkid_2002 (1529917) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282337)

...And if I ever browse the net on a Wii my ePeen would deflate by 200%.

Re:I'll buy an Apple product before I buy a Wii (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282803)

Nothing from nothing leeaaaves nothin'

Finally useful... (2, Insightful)

Max Romantschuk (132276) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282349)

...for watching videos on YouTube?

Haven't even bothered to install the browser so far, my wife's netbook runs circles around a Wii for couch surfing.

Actually I'm genuinely curious: Who uses the Wii browser and for what?

PORN (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282371)

Its a browser. This is /.. you must be new here

Re:Finally useful... (0)

Aranykai (1053846) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282393)

10 year old boys trying to see boobies when they cant get around the parental controls on the family's computer?

Re:Finally useful... (1)

Fotograf (1515543) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282503)

you are so 90ties. you talk like it is a problem for any kid to access adult or at least exciting material. it is everywhere and they often dont bother too much anyway since chicks in school are pretty adapted as well.

Re:Finally useful... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282441)

It can be useful if you don't have a laptop available at the couch. A lot of people (i.e. wives and girlfriends) don't want to have a laptop sitting around on their living room table, for aesthetic reasons.

Re:Finally useful... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282527)

[Citation needed]

Re:Finally useful... (0, Redundant)

Fex303 (557896) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282555)

A lot of people (i.e. wives and girlfriends) don't want to have a laptop sitting around on their living room table...

Get real. This is slashdot. None of us have those things you mentioned - wives, girlfriends, living rooms.

All of those involve leaving our parents' basements.

Re:Finally useful... (1)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282485)

PC ownership in the Far East is much lower than in our decadent Westron cultures. In that market, the Wii browser is up against smartphones, not netbooks.

Re:Finally useful... (5, Funny)

hcpxvi (773888) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282541)

PC ownership in the Far East is much lower than in our decadent Westron cultures.
Indeed, the Shire, Bree and what is left of Arnor have saturation computer ownership and ubiquitous WiFi. Mordor, OTOH, is stuck on DOS 5.0 and 33k modems since the recent collapse of political power in that region.

Re:Finally useful... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29284301)

Damn it, your gunna get me fired for laughing!

Re:Finally useful... (3, Interesting)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282487)

It's just like every other feature that is included for free: you don't think you'll ever use it, but once or twice when you actually do you realize it was totally worth the zero dollars you paid for it. I have it because for some reason it was free when they first offered it. I mainly use it for three things

1. I am playing a game on the 360, need to check gamefaqs for a hint or something, and the computer is being used or I don't feel like bringing the laptop in
2. -ahem- websites that I don't want to view on my computer, for a variety of reasons
3. The wii happens to be on and I don't want to start a game but am bored

Re:Finally useful... (2, Insightful)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283421)

Weather channel. Since I leave mine on all the time (unlike the other consoles, the Wii is a power miser, 18 watts peak draw during a game, as opposed to 250 watts), it's quick and easy to get my local weather.

Or if I need something more up-to-date, open the wii opera browser and go to the latest official forecast, which is updated quicker [weatheroffice.gc.ca] .

Wii Forecast Channel != The Weather Channel (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283537)

Weather channel.

For one thing, Wii has Forecast Channel powered by Weathernews, not the real Weather Channel [weather.com] , unless you've bookmarked weather.com in Internet Channel. In the summer of 2008, I noticed Forecast Channel wasn't nearly as accurate as The Weather Channel. For another, if you're playing the Wii on a TV that gets cable, you can always pause whatever Wii game you're playing, change the channel to The Weather Channel, and watch Local on the 8s.

Re:Finally useful... (1)

Vexar (664860) | more than 4 years ago | (#29284139)

Game FAQs. Finally, my kid can leave me alone while I'm working, and not ask me to hit 1up.com or somesuch so he can find out how to get that last missile pack for Metroid 3. Thanks, good tip there. Not that he can't do it with the *old* internet channel...

Re:Finally useful... (1)

R.Morton (1540993) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282585)

Well I use it for reading Slashdot :), and checking my Emails in between games and the homebrew channel but that is about it mostly play Wii games and Atari 2600 and 7800 games on it Via Razors Emulators.

other than that not a hell of a lot, but if you can buy the Wii keyboard it makes it a lot easier to surf the web, I got mine for 15.00 at game stop because it did not have a box or manual but it works great.

R.Morton

Re:Finally useful... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282625)

but if you can buy the Wii keyboard it makes it a lot easier to surf the web, I got mine for 15.00 at game stop because it did not have a box or manual but it works great.

I didn't know there was a "Wii Keyboard." Is that like those over-priced Wii SD cards? Pretty sure you can plug any old USB keyboard into it.

Re:Finally useful... (1)

dreemernj (859414) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283485)

I find when people say "Wii Keyboard" they are usually referring to a small Logitech keyboard (that comes in USB or wireless) that has been marketed as a console specific keyboard since the Playstation 2. The only difference is the wireless version available now (comes with its own USB wireless receiver, it isn't detected as a controller) and it is white with custom button printing to make it clear what keyboard keys reproduce WiiMote buttons.

I own the Playstation 2 version. Depending on your tastes its not that bad. I like laptop style keys and small, easy to carry keyboards. I bought mine for $5 though, not $15.

Re:Finally useful... (3, Informative)

richy freeway (623503) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282707)

I just use a wireless USB Logitech keyboard I had lying around. No need to buy a specific Wii keyboard.

Re:Finally useful... (1)

R.Morton (1540993) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283167)

cool did not know you could do that I will have to keep that in mind ;), The reason I bought a Wii branded keyboard is because I collect Nintendo Items of any and all kinds if it weren't for that I would most defiantly follow your advice but I can pass it on to friends of mine who may not know that.

R.Morton

Re:Finally useful... (2, Interesting)

ciderVisor (1318765) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282637)

Who uses the Wii browser and for what?

We use it to watch web-based videos on the living room telly. That means YouTube, BBC iPlayer, etc. You can also play Flash games on the Wii; YetiSports Albatross Overload is a favourite with us. It can also be useful for the eternal question of "Oh, what's that actor's name, and what else was he in ?"

Re:Finally useful... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282789)

I played YouTube videos on my Wii from the first day I got it like a year and a half ago. It's the billions of other flash sites that were screwed up.

Glad you took the time to post a comment when you openly admit you know nothing about it.

42" browsing? (3, Insightful)

jonaskoelker (922170) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283097)

Actually I'm genuinely curious: Who uses the Wii browser and for what?

Browsing the web on a very bright 42" monitor is kinda' cool :)

With a wiimote, it means you'll have neither of: a hot laptop on your ball sack; or a desk between the couch and your TV.

Re:42" browsing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29283287)

not when the wii's standard definition resolution means you can only see 1/4 of the page at once.

if you can afford a 42" screen and its HD: you can afford to buy a netbook, plug it into the tv, and use the wii remote with the netbook

Re:42" browsing? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29283479)

1) "If you can afford X, then you can afford Y" is always a bad argument.

2) Your solution is a pain in the ass, not nearly as intuitive.

3) The Wii's screen resolution is just fine for most pages, and if it isn't you can zoom out or scroll left and right.

Re:42" browsing? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283567)

Browsing the web on a very bright 42" monitor is kinda' cool :)

When TVs that big became popular, VGA and HDMI inputs also became popular.

With a wiimote, it means you'll have neither of: a hot laptop on your ball sack; or a desk between the couch and your TV.

My Eee PC doesn't get hot enough to hurt my genitals. And if you eat on the couch, you probably already have a desk of sorts; run a USB cable from a Mac mini (which looks like a Wii) to a hub by the couch, set your keyboard and mouse on the TV tray, and you're set.

Re:42" browsing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29284199)

Yeah, because every person has a random laptop or netbook lying around they can quickly run into their TV.

Not everyone's desktop is near their TV either.

Re:42" browsing? (0)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#29284395)

Yeah, because every person has a random laptop or netbook lying around they can quickly run into their TV.

Some people replace their desktop PC every three or four years. Instead of giving the old hardware up to the recycler, they can reimage it and put it by the TV.

Not everyone's desktop is near their TV either.

In the case of a Mac mini or other nettop, it's as easy as unplugging USB, video, and power, and then plugging in to the TV. One has to do the same thing to play a console on a secondary TV if the main TV is in use.

Re:Finally useful... (1)

mlk (18543) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283215)

Video still... but
iPlayer will become useful. Woo!

Except . . . (1)

Don_dumb (927108) | more than 4 years ago | (#29284017)

Video still... but iPlayer will become useful. Woo!

Except now iPlayer doesn't work.

From one of TFA -

the new update disables support for the BBC iPlayer, which "cannot stream video or audio content but it still allows you to browse content."

Great, we can see what 'content' we can't actually view or hear.

Re:Except . . . (1)

Canazza (1428553) | more than 4 years ago | (#29284617)

that's unfortunate. I remember watching Hole-in-the-wall on the iPlayer on my friends Wii during a party. That was one wild night...

Re:Finally useful... (3, Informative)

WWWWolf (2428) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283365)

...for watching videos on YouTube?

Haven't even bothered to install the browser so far, my wife's netbook runs circles around a Wii for couch surfing.

Actually I'm genuinely curious: Who uses the Wii browser and for what?

YouTube works wonderfully, though YouTube seems to serve pretty low-res videos at the moment (I don't think Wii has the processor power to decode HD videos anyway). So it works, but doesn't look exactly glorious - but still pretty watchable if you squint just right. And in this version, based on cursory testing, the YouTube XL fullscreen mode finally seems to work at tolerable framerate - it used to work nicely in non-fullscreen, but went sluggish in fullscreen. (Incidentally, Flash 7 for Linux suffered from the same problem but they fixed it in newer versions...)

And I've mostly been using the Internet Channel for watching streaming video and HomestarRunner stuff, quickly checking game guides, and occasionally posting to identi.ca. It's not the fastest browser around and goes sluggish on JavaScript-heavy pages like Slashdot (then again, so does my Athlon XP 3000+ desktop.) And there's no AdBlock to alleviate these things. And of course, I haven't figured out how to set up the USB keyboard layout to non-US layouts, but that's a minor problem. All in all, it does most of the stuff I'd expect from a set-top box browser just fine.

Re:Finally useful... (1)

RMH101 (636144) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283905)

at a guess...
Youtube
BBC iPlayer
Last.FM

Some fairly nice free extras right there...

Re:Finally useful... (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283497)

my wife's netbook runs circles around a Wii for couch surfing.

If you want to watch YouTube on the tube, and you're not ready to splurge on replacing your SDTV with an HDTV, it's easier to find a Wii in stores than a $40 netbook-to-SDTV adapter [sewelldirect.com] . And afterward, you can use the Wii to play video games with friends.

iPlayer (1)

Don_dumb (927108) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283971)

Britisher here. I prefer to watch BBC programs on iPlayer on my couch via the TV, rather than my room on the PC or on a little laptop.

It's just a pity that the update prevents iPlayer from working.

come on nintendo (2, Insightful)

Neotrantor (597070) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282549)

enough of this crap. we want the zelda game intended for the wii and chrono trigger on virtual console. get off your fat asses plz plz

Re:come on nintendo (1)

Rah'Dick (976472) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282681)

Chrono Trigger probably won't be released on the Wii, because Nintendo just recently released it as a special version for the DS. But of course you can use Bannerbomb, The Homebrew Channel and SNES9xGX to get a ROM running... Same with Yoshi's Island. There's a DS version, although totally different from the original, but no VC for the Wii.

Re:come on nintendo (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283359)

Nintendo released the DS version? Last I checked Square-Enix is in charge of Chrono Trigger, not Nintendo.

Re:come on nintendo (1)

Rah'Dick (976472) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283443)

Ok, you're right. But then again, Nintendo controls everything that's being released for their consoles, so I guess one can say they both released it.

Re:come on nintendo (1)

KillerBob (217953) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283623)

Ok, you're right. But then again, Nintendo controls everything that's being released for their consoles, so I guess one can say they both released it.

It's coming, I'm sure. They're not stupid, and they know they can make money from it. But it takes time to adapt the engines to work with the Wii.

Case in point, I've had my Wii for almost 2 years now, and I just now broke down and bought my first Wii points card. Why? Because they finally got off their asses and released Secret of Mana. They have partnerned with Square/Enix on VC titles, and I think it's a matter of time before they release other really popular titles.

I should have waited (2, Informative)

DanTheManMS (1039636) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282613)

My apartment roommates and I just set up a Wii in our common living area 2 days ago, and I was the one to shell out the $10 to buy the browser (leaving us with 500 points left we don't really plan to use at the moment). Had I waited a few more days, we could have gotten it for free. Curses.

Meh, at least there's a slight compensation =/

Regarding Youtube, we tried watching some videos but I found the framerate to be very laggy, especially in the full-screen mode. I didn't do extensive testing of YoutubeXL vs standard Youtube site, so I don't know the full extent of this issue, but I'm hoping it improves with this upgrade.

Re:I should have waited (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283437)

According to some of the articles I read, you'll get a 500 point credit towards wiiware, so nothing lost :-)

Re:I should have waited (1)

MasterOfMagic (151058) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283955)

Except the $10 that was turned into Wii points and can't be turned back into cash.

So exactly $10 was lost.

Re:I should have waited (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 4 years ago | (#29285247)

Except the $10 that was turned into Wii points and can't be turned back into cash.

So exactly $10 was lost.

You can transfer Wii points to other people. Find someone who wants to download a game, trade the points for cash, and you're not out a penny.

Re:I should have waited (1)

Vexar (664860) | more than 4 years ago | (#29284205)

I thought the guy paid $10 (assuming USD here, sorry), so isn't that 1000 wii points?

Re:I should have waited (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29284293)

No; he used half of his $10. Can't you read?

Re:I should have waited (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29284915)

Yes, but no.

I was the one to shell out the $10 to buy the browser (leaving us with 500 points left we don't really plan to use at the moment)

Wii Points can't be purchased "a la carte", so you have to buy a 2000-point card in stores or purchase 1000, 2000, 3000, or 5000 points directly through the Shop Channel. The cheapest of those options was the 1000 points for $10 USD. The browser only costs 500 points, leaving another 500. So, he got his 500 back giving him the 1000 originally purchased.

It's enough to buy Mega Man 9 without all the DLC, and if the OP hasn't already bought it then I recommend it.

Wiibserver? (2, Interesting)

damburger (981828) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282699)

Anyone know if there are any plans to merge Unite into the version of Opera that ships for the Wii? It would be quite interesting if every Wii owner had a lego-brick server in their lounge..

Google Maps not working anymore (1)

Rah'Dick (976472) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282735)

Did anyone else notice that Google Maps doesn't work anymore, or is it just me? Well, I'll use WiiEarth (homebrew) meanwhile.

Does it work with Hulu? (1)

marshalium (1466239) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282807)

Since it now supports Flash 9 it seems like it should.
Can anyone comment on how well Hulu works on the Wii with this new version?

Re:Does it work with Hulu? (2, Informative)

nixkuroi (569546) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283161)

HuluDoesn't appear to work at all. I visited Hulu.com and only got a black screen with all videos. It's possible I didn't wait long enough for their player to load, but Youtube.com/xl comes up right away.

Re:Does it work with Hulu? (1)

langelgjm (860756) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283433)

Hulu was the first site I checked, and no, it doesn't work. Apparently Hulu used to work with Flash 9, but now requires Flash 10 (I have my suspicions this new requirement was added to prevent embedded browsers like the Wii's Opera from being able to use it).

However, there is software called "PlayOn" that will act as a UPnP server and stream Hulu content to the Wii. It's not free and requires Windows.

Re:Does it work with Hulu? (1)

dreemernj (859414) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283527)

It sounds like the Internet Channel doesn't actually have Flash 9 either. It has Flash Lite 3 which is similar but lacks support for ActionScript 3.

Arse, why kill iPlayer? (1)

hattig (47930) | more than 4 years ago | (#29282903)

the new update disables support for the BBC iPlayer, which "cannot stream video or audio content but it still allows you to browse content.

It is a shame as that is pretty much all I use the Wii internet channel for. My Virgin Media cable box crashes 100% of the time when I try to access iPlayer through its interface. I also don't like watching iPlayer on my computer screen in another room when I want to be on my sofa.

Re:Arse, why kill iPlayer? (1)

petermgreen (876956) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283045)

BTW you can get all the iplayer content through the "all a-z" menus of catch up TV on demand. I generally find this to be a much more reliable route than the iplayer specific menus.

Re:Arse, why kill iPlayer? (1)

hattig (47930) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283557)

Pretty much doing anything except watch TV kills the Virgin Box dead.

Sometimes it can't change channel, instead thinking you want to view the programme guide.

Never mind the glacial speed of the interface. A-Z? Horrific, it would take a day to get to M (for Mock the Week), never mind T (for Top Gear).

Re:Arse, why kill iPlayer? (1)

Don_dumb (927108) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283925)

That's just awful, it's generally the only thing I use the internet channel for (excep perhaps when my computer is in deep repair and I need the net to help). I thought it was my ISP when I tried iPlayer on the updated channel last night and the stream wouldn't work.

I can't tell, did they do this deliberately? An update to Flash that makes it harder to view Flash sites, brilliant.

Cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29282957)

How useful, Finally i might be able to stream decent quality video to my wii :)

Old one was better (1)

Crock23A (1124275) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283319)

The older version of flash was it's own version of an ad blocker. The new browser is now downloading flash ads from everywhere. It sucks.

!Flash 9 (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29283689)

I am (unfortunately) a Flash dev.

The new Internet Channel supports Flash Lite 3, not Flash 9. Flash Lite 3 supports all the ActionScript Virtual Machine 1 (AVM1) content that will run on or before Flash 9. However, it does not support AVM2 content -- that is, content created with ActionScript 3 or Flex. ActionScript 3 was released with Flash 9. I don't know of any Flash 9 content that isn't written using AS3/AVM2 -- if you're trying to be backwards compatible (say, you're a corporation, and every 0.01% penetration counts) you're gonna code in Flash 7 or 8 anyway.

This opens up a bunch of content written with Flash 8, but it still means you're not going to able to use, say, the vast majority of games on Kongregate or YouTube HD. Besides that, the browser has so little memory available to it that any "high end" Flash content is off-limits anyway. This update really doesn't do much for me.

My wii question... (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 4 years ago | (#29283709)

Will we (wii?) ever see the price come down? It has been on the market for almost 3 years now and the price has yet to change.

Not Flash 9 content ! (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29284047)

Although the updated Internet Channel identifies itself as a v9 Flash Player, it is actually still incapable of playing what anyone considers 'Flash 9 content' such as applications that use Adobe's Flex framework (or indeed anything that needs ActionScript 3).
It's really 'Flash Lite 3.1' as explained at http://www.adobe.com/products/flashlite/faq/

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