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New iPod Touch Has an 802.11n Chip

kdawson posted more than 4 years ago | from the more-and-more-like-a-little-tablet dept.

Wireless Networking 135

eggboard writes "iFixIt has discovered a Broadcom 802.11a/b/g/n chip in the just-announced iPod touch (32 GB and 64 GB) models that uses single-stream 802.11n. Single-stream doesn't get the full power of N, but it boosts speed enough that — along with space-time block encoding, a feature coming soon to Wi-Fi access points with two or more radios — the iPod touch could be an effective networked media server, for streaming and transfer, possibly through the new iTunes Home Sharing feature."

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Why didn't they tell us? (1)

maharb (1534501) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400137)

Why didn't they tell us earlier? Seems odd to me.

Re:Why didn't they tell us? (3, Funny)

alen (225700) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400215)

now that the spec is final, Apple will write a driver and make sure to enable n only via their WiFi access points

Re:Why didn't they tell us? (0, Flamebait)

Dog-Cow (21281) | more than 4 years ago | (#29402475)

God-willing you will die horribly and painfully for being such an asshole.

Re:Why didn't they tell us? (2, Informative)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400223)

Why didn't they tell us earlier?

iFixIt? Because they just found out.
Apple still hasn't told anybody.

Re:Why didn't they tell us? (1)

maharb (1534501) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400323)

OK. Why hasn't Apple told anyone?

Re:Why didn't they tell us? (5, Insightful)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400513)

Because the iPod Touch doesn't support 802.11n networking, only b and g. What purpose would it serve to say "Hey, the device is 802.11n capable, but the software won't let you use it". They probably used that particular chip for cost reasons. The chip is perfectly capable of doing b and g and probably costs less in volumes than the b/g only chips now that technology has gone forward.

Re:Why didn't they tell us? (4, Insightful)

v1 (525388) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400965)

It's possible they may sell another $5 upgrade [digg.com] for N as they did when N first came out, for the macbooks that shipped juuust before N was announced on them.

Re:Why didn't they tell us? (4, Informative)

icebike (68054) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401085)

Maybe because this chip really does not support N?

Just because it is from that family of chips doesn't mean it has N.

Look at the designator on the end of the chipset full designation: BCM4329FKUBG That BG at the end may be telling.

I'm sure when Apple calls, Broadcom pays attention, and will burn custom chip sets, omitting any feature Apple does not want.

the full BCM4329FKUBG designation does not appear in Broadcom's catalog. Its a custom chip.

Besides, N requires special antennas. They were not found.

Re:Why didn't they tell us? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29402757)

Maybe because this chip really does not support N?

Just because it is from that family of chips doesn't mean it has N.

Look at the designator on the end of the chipset full designation: BCM4329FKUBG That BG at the end may be telling.

[...]

the full BCM4329FKUBG designation does not appear in Broadcom's catalog. Its a custom chip.

Besides, N requires special antennas. They were not found.

The trailing characters following a family name (BCM 4329) usually specify package type and other options. Full documentation for this kind (i.e., something that contains radios dealing with new standards) of chip is only provided to users who are going to buy at least a few thousand, but I'm sure someone on /. can find a more complete PDF than this [broadcom.com]. Maybe you're right about the "BG" or maybe not. However...

What I found more interesting is that this family of chips contains an FM transmitter. Bye-bye aftermarket add-ons for transmitting to your car stereo, eh?

Re:Why didn't they tell us? (5, Funny)

NoYob (1630681) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400297)

Why didn't they tell us earlier? Seems odd to me.

It's part of their marketing. Now, when fanboys say that Apple products are NOT more expensive when you compare them feature to feature with others, the fanboys can also point out that you're also buying features that you don't know about! See how superior Apple products are?!

Re:Why didn't they tell us? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29400453)

Undocumented Features?

Back in my day we called those "Bugs"?

P.S. Get off my lawn!

Anonymous Coward (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29400153)

This would be cool if it had a camera

Panties STINK!!!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29400171)

Panties Stink!
They really, really stink!
Sometimes they're red, sometimes they're green,
Sometimes they're white or black or pink
Sometimes they're satin, sometimes they're lace
Sometimes they're cotton and soak up stains
But at the end of the day, it really makes you think
Wooooooo-wheeeee! Panties stink!

Sometimes they're on the bathroom floor
Your girlfriend- what a whore!
Sometimes they're warm and wet and raw
From beneath the skirt of your mother-in-law
Brownish stains from daily wear
A gusset full of pubic hair
Just make sure your nose is ready
For the tang of a sweat-soaked wedgie
In your hand a pair of drawers
With a funky feminine discharge
Give your nose a rest, fix yourself a drink
cause wooooooo-wheeeeeee! panties stink!

Server? (1)

royallthefourth (1564389) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400201)

the iPod touch could be an effective networked media server

I doubt you could call it effective when it would still be tied down by battery life. That could be remedied by plugging it in, but if you have a computer, it seems it would just make more sense to stream from the computer than the iPod.

Re:Server? (2, Insightful)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400321)

I doubt you could call it effective when it would still be tied down by battery life. That could be remedied by plugging it in, but if you have a computer, it seems it would just make more sense to stream from the computer than the iPod.

Your comment makes sense, until the moment you want to take a movie you own over to a friend's house to watch.

Re:Server? (1)

Brian Gordon (987471) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400399)

Your comment makes sense, except why would you have movies stored on your iPod? Surely you don't try to squint at a 4 inch screen for 90 minutes.. Keep them on an external drive (where space doesn't cost you $25/GB)

Re:Server? (5, Informative)

ZackSchil (560462) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400493)

iPods output to televisions.

Re:Server? (1, Insightful)

bemymonkey (1244086) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400627)

Shouldn't that read "iPod docks that cost twice as much as the iPod itself output to televisions"?

Re:Server? (3, Insightful)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400669)

No because you don't need a dock, just a cable.

Re:Server? (1, Informative)

bemymonkey (1244086) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400691)

Weird, googling "iPod HDMI Out" didn't lead me to many adapter cables...

Re:Server? (4, Informative)

Winckle (870180) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400857)

Re:Server? (1)

bemymonkey (1244086) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400935)

So what do I do with those weird looking plugs? :P

Do TVs still come with composite inputs? I know all my displays have D-Sub/DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort, so I guess I'd be SOL if I had an iPod...

Re:Server? (4, Informative)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400861)

HDMI is only one way to connect to a TV. How bout you try to get informed before spouting nonsense : http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1454 [apple.com].

Re:Server? (0)

bemymonkey (1244086) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400921)

HDMI, DisplayPort, DVI, it's all the same. No, composite is not an option. No, S-Video isn't an option.

Re:Server? (1)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400939)

What are you blabbering about ? First, the Apple article shows that Component is a valid a connection (and no, Composite and Component aren't the same thing) and even then, S-video, Composite and Component all permit a iPod to hook up to a TV, contradicting your initial statement of even needing a dock.

Re:Server? (1)

bemymonkey (1244086) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400971)

I'm blabbering about the fact that I'd prefer digital content to stay digital on its way to the digital display instead of going through D/A/D conversion, as well as having to pass through a crappy overpriced (probably badly shielded) iPod=>Component cable in analog form.

Or maybe it's the fact that I don't actually know anyone that has a device in their home that accepts component inputs...

Re:Server? (1)

NewNole2001 (717720) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401237)

Or maybe it's the fact that I don't actually know anyone that has a device in their home that accepts component inputs...

My brand new Samsung UN55B8000 (Check it, it's their top of the line LED set) has one component input.

My LG 47LH55 (bought in June) has two component inputs..

Heck, it even has one composite input.

Something tells me you're wrong.

Re:Server? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29401719)

Or maybe it's the fact that I don't actually know anyone that has a device in their home that accepts component inputs...

Every TV I own and every TV I've seen for sale in the last 5 years (excluding some already obsolete SDTVs) has a component input on it. So what, you don't know anyone that owns a TV?

Re:Server? (1)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401817)

Hum, the initial premise was that the iPod could do TV output. You retorted the following :

Shouldn't that read "iPod docks that cost twice as much as the iPod itself output to televisions"?

I corrected you saying the dock wasn't necessary at all, that just the cable was. Now you're just trying to not be wrong by changing your original message (which is impossible through editing, so you're trying to troll it away).

Re:Server? (1)

m.ducharme (1082683) | more than 4 years ago | (#29402225)

I have a television that accepts component inputs. Oldish Panasonic Tau CRT television. Has inputs for co-ax, composite and component, no digital. Not everyone gives a shit about digital television, you know.

Re:Server? (1)

Sir_Lewk (967686) | more than 4 years ago | (#29402499)

(probably badly shielded)

And that's when I write you off as an AV-phile. Let me guess, you also raise and seperate all of your cables with little wood blocks to "dampen the vibrations" too.

Re:Server? (1)

PIBM (588930) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401023)

The ipod touch right here would support

2. 480i/576i.

On my nice 1080p TV. I'm so going to downgrade the latest bluray to 480i !

Re:Server? (1)

Idiomatick (976696) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401205)

The cable for component output (which is only 480i) costs 55$. Which would cost about 10$ normally. But since apple uses their own proprietary output it costs a lot more. Yay hating standards to raise prices. BTW mini/micro usb is better in all ways (ubs 2.0) not to mention the plug is like 1/8th the size.

Re:Server? (1)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401841)

You do understand you can buy third party solutions for much cheaper right ? The connector might be proprietary but there are tons of 3rd parties that do make devices for iPod with it and Apple doesn't prevent it.

Re:Server? (1)

mabhatter654 (561290) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401949)

because the 30 pin iPod connector has extra pins for all sorts of things... USB in, power in, power out, audio-in, audio-out, video-out, and some spares for when Apple feels like new features. Yes, they could have 3 standard plugs across the bottom but the dock has been a pretty good socket the last 5 years or so... it's not going anywhere. The adapter lets them make all the iPods the same and pickup whatever standard connectors they feel like blessing the masses with in the adapter, making things cheaper for the majority of users that will never bother with anything but the standard cable.

I'll be blunt, I bought all the cables for my last iPod and never actually USED them for more than a curiosity (ok, I have an Apple TV for connecting to my TV and it has HDMI out and Component) I would like to see a dual alarm bedside clock that also pulls out the video to something 6-8" or so.

Re:Server? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29402431)

10$? you mean 2$ max.

Re:Server? (1)

Sir_Lewk (967686) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400699)

Yeah, I certainly don't see a USB port on my television.

Re:Server? (1)

LaraineMae (1516761) | more than 4 years ago | (#29402325)

My Bravia has a USB port, but, whoop-de-do, it views only jpegs and mp3s and only when they are on Sony-branded media (only Sony camera or Sony MICRO VAULT drive). And I found out from costco tech support that it's only USB 1.1.

Re:Server? (1)

oman_ (147713) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401909)

iPod movies are a great way to pass the time on airplanes, or on layovers in airports. I always take the AV cable when I travel so I can hook it up to the TV when I get to the hotel room.

iLinkIt (5, Informative)

the_other_chewey (1119125) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400233)

WTF is this link-less entry supposed to be?

Here's the story mentioned above:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPod-touch-3rd-Generation/1158/2 [ifixit.com]

Re:iLinkIt (0, Troll)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400351)

It's become traditional on Slashdot that Apple products be proudly displayed on the front page without links, because most Apple products discussed on Slashdot don't really exist either. Didn't you get the memo?

Re:iLinkIt (2, Insightful)

Brian Gordon (987471) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400411)

I wouldn't go as far as to imply that the slashdot editors even read submissions to the point that they could tell if it's about Apple.

Re:iLinkIt (1)

QuoteMstr (55051) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401431)

Remember the Sokal Affair [wikipedia.org], where a physicist submitted a nonsense article to a humanities journal to see whether there was any substance to the field? His paper was accepted, and there wasn't. I wonder how susceptible Slashdot would be to the same kind of made-up nonsense [mit.edu].

Re:iLinkIt (1)

poopdeville (841677) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401899)

It wasn't a nonsense article. He just stuck lots of random nonsense in it, to see if it would get caught. There is a difference.

Not how Home Sharing works (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29400239)

Home sharing is just a way of automatically keeping multiple iTunes libraries up to date with new purchases when they are all tied to the same iTunes store account. It's not any kind of actual sharing service, just a synchronization service.

Re:Not how Home Sharing works (4, Informative)

radmarshallb (1062354) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400401)

Yes it is. Home Sharing has an option to allow you to automatically synchronize new purchases, but it does much more than that. You can copy any song from your iTunes library to any other machine on your Home Sharing network. For instance, I just copied a single album (ripped from my own CDs, not an iTMS purchase) from my main library upstairs onto my laptop. If an iPod were enabled for Home Sharing, it would make sense that you could do the same thing. That is, wirelessly sync whatever songs, albums, or playlists you choose to your iPod Touch.

Re:Not how Home Sharing works (1)

radmarshallb (1062354) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400409)

Gah, forgot the most important part of that... That is, wirelessly sync whatever songs, albums, or playlists you choose to your iPod Touch FROM your iPod Touch.

Re:Not how Home Sharing works (2)

herojig (1625143) | more than 4 years ago | (#29402111)

It's a sync from the store, but not from device to device, or from library to library. It is great u can copy from one machine to another now (with a limit of 5 machines that must be registered on the apple site) but u can't sync the libraries in any way with each other (other then purchased music). That would be really grand, but for now u need other software to do that:)

Link to original article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29400251)

It might help if the summary contained a link to the original article [ifixit.com].

Silly (4, Interesting)

Dan East (318230) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400293)

This is silly. There would be so many other bottlenecks on a mobile device of this nature that the speed of the connectivity isn't an issue. I bet the iPod can't even consume (let alone serve) data at 802.11g speeds.

Re:Silly (3, Interesting)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400369)

It's vastly easier to shovel bytes than to do something intelligent with them. Serving the files to another device is well within the capabilities of the iPhone. I have a DT Research DT168 with a 500 MHz Geode chip, and hooking up a 1TB MyBook to it via USB2 gives me real-world transfer rates of about 7MB/sec to assorted clients (all of which are more than powerful enough to receive the data much faster) over good old 100Mbps ethernet. I'm positive the iPhone or iPod Touch is capable of saturating 802.11g if its storage can handle it; and why not?

Re:Silly (1)

PhrostyMcByte (589271) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400395)

802.11g is a little under 7MB/s maximum, with a lot less in most cases. I've never used an iphone or ipod touch, but I'd be surprised if it couldn't use more than 7MB/s. Single-stream 802.11n is about 20MB/s maximum, which doesn't seem too impossible either.

Re:Silly (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29400431)

802.11n is 2x the range. 91m vs 45m.

Re:Silly (2, Interesting)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400461)

The iPod touch has a pretty hefty processor at 600 mhz, and would probably have no trouble filling in the bandwidth. I've never actually tested it, but I've heard a 486 serving static pages can manage to fill a T1 line.

The biggest problem I can see with it is battery life. How much fun is it if you have to stop your movie in the middle because the iPod ran out of battery? You would probably want to keep it charging, although with every computer these days having a USB port, that might not be too much of an issue......as long as your computer is close enough to your TV.

Re:Silly (1)

kc8apf (89233) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401165)

... I've heard a 486 serving static pages can manage to fill a T1 line.

It isn't _that_ hard to saturate 1.544Mbps. Most cable/DSL downlink speeds are faster than that. Now, a T3 is a bit more challenging, but nothing a single decent machine can't handle.

Re:Silly (1)

Clover_Kicker (20761) | more than 4 years ago | (#29402481)

It's easy to forget just how fast modern machines are. Back in the day, ftp.cdrom.com pushed ~1TB a day from 1 box, a 200-MHz P6 Pentium Pro.

(yeah yeah, ftp.cdrom.com had industrial quality I/O)

Re:Silly (1)

jmcharry (608079) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401655)

My experience with a Broadcom BCM4311 chipset card is that it won't do more than about 1Mb anyhow.

Wait a Minute Here... (2, Interesting)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400303)

along with space-time block encoding, a feature coming soon to Wi-Fi access points with two or more radios

So is this something that just came out in the final standard yesterday that all of the pre-standard devices don't implement properly, if at all?

Re:Wait a Minute Here... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29400549)

No, the final N spec is compatable with Draft-N

Re:Wait a Minute Here... (1)

eggboard (315140) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401633)

The final standard simply confirms what's been shipping in the market in largely unchanged form for over two years. The Wi-Fi Alliance has been certifying devices against a stable draft since 2007. There's no such thing as "pre-standard" devices in this category. Either they have a Wi-Fi seal for Draft N or they don't.

All this means (3, Insightful)

Fwipp (1473271) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400349)

All this means is that Apple decided to use a chip that happened to support wireless 802.11N communication. Maybe it was a planned feature, but it got cut. Maybe it was just cheaper or easier to work with than other offerings. Apple will not enable this at some point down the road, just as they won't activate the bluetooth chip inside older Ipod Touches. What _will_ happen is next year, they will sell a new model with the same chips, but this time with the necessary software support and bill it as a new compelling feature.

Re:All this means (4, Informative)

itsdapead (734413) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400561)

just as they won't activate the bluetooth chip inside older Ipod Touches.

Er, they did...

If you pay Apple 10 bucks for the 3.0 OS upgrade, that unused bluetooth chip in the second-gen iPod Touch will spring into action... [tomsguide.com]

Re:All this means (2, Informative)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400661)

Actually it's only 4.99$ for the 3.1 upgdade.

At least that's what it cost me to go from 2.x to 3.1.

Re:All this means (1)

dotgain (630123) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401185)

GP is probably reporting Australian Dollars or something similar, the 3.0 upgrade cost me NZ$12.95 from memory. Fortunately I only had to pay once to upgrade all (two) of the iPods in our house. And yes, just to confirm, Bluetooth magically sprang into existence on the 2nd Gen, but was lacking on the poor old 1st Gen.

Re:All this means (1)

itsdapead (734413) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401411)

GP is probably reporting Australian Dollars or something similar

Nah. GP was mentally converting £6 to dollars and negligently used the actual exchange rate rather than Apple's fantasy £1=$1 rate.

Re:All this means (1)

Dhalka226 (559740) | more than 4 years ago | (#29402261)

I noticed exactly this, but I've seen both numbers.

My observation/hypothesis is this: When the upgrade they were offering was to 3.0, a major revision, the price they asked was $9.99 USD. Personally I didn't upgrade at that time, because I didn't feel the features were compelling enough to pay $10. A month or so later (from my perspective; I've only had my Touch for about that long) the upgrade is now actually to 3.1.1, and the price was $4.99 USD. Of course in either event you're upgraded all the way to the latest version. So in essence, I got the full upgrade path for $5 instead of $15 if I had been an early adopter.

Worked out well for me, but I don't think I would appreciate it if I was one of those people who upgrade as soon as I can.

Re:All this means (1)

Dog-Cow (21281) | more than 4 years ago | (#29402665)

No. They just lowered the price. If you had upgraded to 3.0, the update to 3.1.1 would have been free.

Re:All this means (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29400931)

As others have mentioned, Apple did enable the Bluetooth chip. Also, there is precedent for this: many Macs shipped with 802.11n cards that were locked to 802.11g. You could buy an Enabler from Apple for a few dollars, as I recall, to enable 802.11n support. They may do the exact same thing here.

802.11N hardware OTHER than the chip? (3, Informative)

anethema (99553) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400447)

What I'm more curious about is any of the hardware there for it. Multiple antennas for MIMO? Any 5GHz hardware? The biggest advantage to wireless-N IMO is it moves the wireless out of the stupidly crowded 2.4GHz ISM band. The 5GHz band is (at least for now) far less crowded and this unlicensed band has quite a few more channels to spread the devices out a bit more spectrum wise.

The chip is one thing but without any other supporting hardware, it doesn't make much difference. The chip could have been chosen for better power characteristics or a few other reasons. Time will tell if apple enables any N style features but I am not holding my breath.

Re:802.11N hardware OTHER than the chip? (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400479)

Well yes 5GHz would be very nice for the reason you mention. I've moved my home wifi net to 5GHz to get it out of the 2.4 muck and it would be nice if I could get an iPod touch that would operate there.

However it won't be until they show up with a camera too.

Re:802.11N hardware OTHER than the chip? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29400835)

replying as ac to preserve mods. You have too many digits in your UID to be popping off about being a low number. You'd be suprised at the number of 3 and 4 digits UID's still lurking :)

Re:802.11N hardware OTHER than the chip? (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401943)

"The biggest advantage to wireless-N IMO is it moves the wireless out of the stupidly crowded 2.4GHz ISM band. The 5GHz band is (at least for now) far less crowded and this unlicensed band has quite a few more channels to spread the devices out a bit more spectrum wise."

Yes, all of us with Macs and Airports are just thrilled that the rest of the world will now be routinely crowding up the 5 GHz spectrum.

faggot story for faggot shit (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29400605)

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advertisement Sergeant Taggart: Why didn't you identify yourself as a police officer when you were arrested? Axel Foley: 'Cause I was mindin' my own business. Hey, where the fuck do you guys get off on arresting somebody for getting thrown out of a window? Sergeant Taggart: We have six witnesses that say you broke in and started tearing up the place, then jumped out the window! Axel Foley: And you guys believe that? What the fuck are you, cops or doormen? Sergeant Taggart: We're more likely to believe an important local businessman than a foul-mouthed jerk from out of town. Axel Foley: Foul-mouthed? [Taggart nods] Axel Foley: Fuck you, man. Detective Rosewood: [Taggart stands up and draws himself to full height] Hey, Sarge... Sergeant Taggart: You watch your mouth. Axel Foley: [standing] Hey, man, don't square off on me with some bullshit. [shoves Taggart] Axel Foley: You wanna start some static? Sergeant Taggart: Hey, don't push me! Axel Foley: [shoves Taggart again] Fuck you, man! [Taggart delivers hard blow to Axel's stomach... Axel doubles over in pain] Lieutenant Bogomil: [witnessing from his office] Taggart! Sergeant Taggart: Yes, sir. Lieutenant Bogomil: Come here. [Taggart enters Bogomil's office, both emerge a minute later] Sergeant Taggart: Sir... I apologize for striking you. I have no excuse. Axel Foley: [bemused] Forget about it. Axel Foley: Don't you think I realize what's going on here, miss? Who do you think I am, huh? Don't you think I know that if I was some hotshot from out of town that pulled inside here and you guys made a reservation mistake, I'd be the first one to get a room and I'd be upstairs relaxing right now. But I'm not some hotshot from out of town, I'm a small reporter from "Rolling Stone" magazine that's in town to do an exclusive interview with Michael Jackson that's gonna be picked up by every major magazine in the country. I was gonna call the article "Michael Jackson Is Sitting On Top of the World," but now I think I might as well just call it "Michael Jackson Can Sit On Top of the World Just As Long As He Doesn't Sit in the Beverly Palm Hotel 'Cause There's No Niggers Allowed in There!" [Axel pretends to be a male hustler] Axel Foley: Tell Victor that Ramon - -the fella he met about a week ago? - -tell him that Ramon went to the clinic today, and I found out that I have, um, herpes simplex 10, and I think Victor should go check himself out with his physician to make sure everything is fine before things start falling off on the man. Axel Foley: Disturbing the peace? I got thrown out of a window! What's the fuckin' charge for getting pushed out of a moving car, huh? Jaywalking? Police Chief Hubbard: What's this man doing here? Axel Foley: Bleeding, sir. Axel Foley: If something happens to her... Victor Maitland: Hmmm...? I'm all ears. Axel Foley: I'll kill you. Victor Maitland: Really? That would be a neat trick. Detective Rosewood: Wow. You know, it says here that by the time the average American is fifty, he's got five pounds of undigested red meat in his bowels. Sergeant Taggart: Why are you telling me this? What makes you think I have any interest in that at all? Detective Rosewood: Well, you eat a lot of red meat. Police Chief Hubbard: Is this the gentleman who crashed through Victor Maitland's window? Who disabled an unmarked unit with a banana? Lieutenant Bogomil: Yes, sir. Police Chief Hubbard: Who lured Taggart and Rosemont into a gross dereliction of duty at a strip-tease establishment? Detective Rosewood: Uh, it's Rosewood, sir. Lieutenant Bogomil: Yes, sir. Police Chief Hubbard: Is this the gentleman who ruined the buffet at the Harrow club this morning? Lieutenant Bogomil: Yes, sir. Police Chief Hubbard: I just bet that you are the pride of your department in Detroit. Lieutenant, I'd like to see you in your office. Lieutenant Bogomil: Yes, sir. Axel Foley: [mocking Hubbard] Is this the man who... wrecked the buffet at the Harrow club this morning? Sergeant Taggart: Lower your voice, for Christ's sake! Axel Foley: What, can the guy hear me through the wall? Detective Rosewood, Sergeant Taggart: Yes, he can. [Detectives Foster and McCabe nod in agreement] Axel Foley: What? Y'all the second team? Detective McCabe: We're the first team. Detective Foster: Yeah, and we're not gonna fall for a banana in the tailpipe. Axel Foley: [mocking him] You're not gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe? It should be more natural, brother. It should flow out, like this - "Look, man, I ain't fallin' for no banana in my tailpipe!" See, that's more natural for us. You been hanging out with this dude too long. Jenny Summers: [about Axel] What are you gonna do to him? Victor Maitland: I think you should be more worried about what we're going to do with you. Axel Foley: Yeah, Jenny, don't worry about me. We got cocaine and coffee here. We're gonna get wired and have a big party. Axel Foley: [outside the crime scene in front of Axel's apartment building after Mike is killed] Look, I heard a rumor that you're gonna use Rand on this case, and, between the two of us, the guy doesn't know the time of day. Inspector Douglas Todd: Don't mess with me now, Axel. Axel Foley: It's the first time he's left his desk in 12 years! Inspector Douglas Todd: At least he's had 12 years. Anyway, it's a homicide case and it belongs to Rand. Now go to the hospital! Axel Foley: Well, you don't mind if I ask around a little bit, do you? Inspector Douglas Todd: Don't do a damn thing! It's Rand's case. Your ass is skating on thin ice as it is! Axel Foley: Hey, look, we're talking about a friend of mine, here! Inspector Douglas Todd: Yes, we are, aren't we! Now, let's take a close look at that. One, a hoodlum friend. Two, a professional hit. Three, in a cop's apartment. This whole thing stinks to high heaven! Axel Foley: How do you know it was a professional hit? Inspector Douglas Todd: I didn't just walk into this town from the cotton fields! Whoever killed your friend wasn't worried about your little narrow ass. If they were, you'd be lyin' beside him in that meat wagon. Just don't do a damn thing. Stay out of this! Axel Foley: Well, look. I got some vacation time comin' to me. I wanna take my vacation now. Inspector Douglas Todd: Stay away from this case, Axel. Axel Foley: No, it's just that I feel I need a little vacation, that's all. Inspector Douglas Todd: [after pausing to think for a moment] All right. Soon as you're finished at the hospital, you're on vacation. Axel Foley: Thank you. Inspector Douglas Todd: But if you decide to butt into this case, it'd be the longest vacation you ever heard of. Inspector Douglas Todd: You mind telling me where the fuck you come off going undercover without authorization from me? What the fuck is this all about? You wanna play some fucking bullshit cowboy cop? Go do it in somebody else's precinct! Axel Foley: Don't you wanna hear my side of the story? Inspector Douglas Todd: What's your fucking side of the story? Axel Foley: Let's hear your side of the story. Inspector Douglas Todd: Hey Axel, I'm not takin' anymore of this shit from you. You know how much this little stunt of yours is gonna cost this city? Axel Foley: I don't think cost is the issue here, sir. I think the issue should be my blatant disregard for proper procedure. Inspector Douglas Todd: You damn right, wise ass! The mayor called the Chief, the Chief called the Deputy Chief, the Deputy Chief just chewed my ass out! You see I don't have any bit of it left, don't you? Where in the fuck did you get a truckload of cigarettes from anyway? Axel Foley: From the Dearborn Hijacking. Inspector Douglas Todd: From the Dearborn Hijacking? That fucking bust went down last week! That truck is supposed to be in the damn pound! Jeffery: I tried to tell you. Inspector Douglas Todd: Jeffery, this is none of your fucking business! Jeffery: [Pointing to a random locker] This is not my locker! Inspector Douglas Todd: Listen Axel, no more of these set ups, you understand? You're a good cop, and you got great potential, but you don't know every fucking thing. And I'm tired of taking the heat for your ass. One more time and you're out on the street. Do you understand me? Axel Foley: Look, Boss, let me tell... Inspector Douglas Todd: [emphatically] Do you understand me? Axel Foley: Yeah, I understand. Boss. The Chief ain't chew it all out. You still got a little ass there. Inspector Douglas Todd: Don't fuck with me Axel! Not now! Go on. Go home. Jeffery: Todd's looking for you. He is really pissed. You know what he said? This is your worst fuck up ever. Personally, I don't think that's true. Detroit Cop #3: [finding Axel in the back of the cigarette truck] Freeze, asshole! [recognizes Axel] Detroit Cop #3: Foley, we should have *known* it was you! Axel Foley: Before I go, I just want you two to know something, alright? The supercop story... was working. Okay? It was working, and you guys just messed it up. Okay? I'm trying to figure you guys out, but I haven't yet. But it's cool. You fuck up a perfectly good lie. Axel Foley: I never been in no cell that had a phone in it. Can I stay for a while, 'cause I ordered some pizza. Axel Foley: This is the cleanest and nicest police car I've ever been in in my life. This thing's nicer than my apartment. Axel Foley: Billy, you know, you don't have to be embarrassed if your dick gets hard. Your dick is supposed to get hard. See? That's the whole object of this. Taggart's dick is hard, but he won't let you know 'cause he's the boss. Boss' dick got to stay limp, right? See, I ain't on duty so my dick can be hard. Detective Rosewood: All he asked me to do was drive you out of town. Now I'm gonna screw that up, too. Axel Foley: Is this your car? Jenny Summers: Oh, no. In Beverly Hills we just take whichever car is closest. Jenny Summers: I remember you used to drive that crappy blue Chevy Nova. [they both chuckle] Jenny Summers: What are you driving now? Axel Foley: Same crappy blue Chevy Nova. Axel Foley: Gimme the key! I'm gonna follow 'em! Jenny Summers: Have you ever driven a Mercedes before? Axel Foley: No, but a car is a car. I drive my car every day. Jenny Summers: I'm driving. I've seen your car. Axel Foley: Oh, shit, that's cold. Bonded Warehouse Clerk #1: You got some kind of warrant for this? Axel Foley: You know, you have a very big mouth, sir! Are you hiding something from me? Is that what you're doing? I bet you that is your Porsche that's parked outside, isn't it? Isn't that your Porsche? Is it? How would you like me to have the IRS come down here and crawl up your fuckin' ass with a microscope? 'Cause they'll do it! I've seen them do it! It's not a pretty sight! I want you to know something, pal! And I want all of y'all to know something! I can have twenty five agents down here in fifteen minutes to march in here, snatch your bond from underneath you and you guys'll be out of business, permanently, if I don't get some cooperation! Is that understood? Bonded Warehouse Night Supervisor: Don't get upset, Inspector! We'll give you everything you need! Right, guys? Bonded Warehouse Security Guard: Everything you need! Bonded Warehouse Clerk #1: That's not my Porsche, no sir! I don't know whose it is! Axel Foley: You can't go in 'cause you're a cop in this town. You go in there without probable cause, they're gonna call it an illegal search. You know that. Or didn't they teach you that in cop school? [Foley hands the keys to his beat-up car to a valet] Axel Foley: Can you put this in a good spot? 'Cause all of this shit happened the last time I parked here. Victor Maitland: Now listen to me, my tough little friend. I don't know from under what stone you crawled, or where you get these ridiculous ideas about me, but it seems painfully obvious you haven't the slightest fucking idea who you're dealing with. Now, my advice to you is crawl back to your little stone in Detroit before you get squashed. Detective Rosewood: Everything he said about Maitland is right. Now he's kidnapped a woman and he's got her in this house. Sergeant Taggart: Well, let's go in there and get her. Axel Foley: What the fuck do you think I'm trying to do here? Sergeant Taggart: You're not doing anything! Axel Foley: Is your supervisor here? Bonded Warehouse Security Guard: Yeah, he's in the office. Axel Foley: Can you go get him for me, please? Bonded Warehouse Security Guard: What's the problem? Axel Foley: Are you security here? Bonded Warehouse Security Guard: Yeah. Axel Foley: [pulling badge] Then you're the fucking problem! Go get your supervisor, please. Now! NOW! Axel Foley: Coffee grounds. Jenny Summers: So? Axel Foley: You know what this stuff is used for? Jenny Summers: Yeah, some people filter hot water through it and drink it. Axel Foley: Yeah, I'm gonna take this home and filter hot water through it and drink it in the morning. Sergeant Taggart: Police! Move and I'll kill you! [being shot at] Sergeant Taggart: Jesus Christ! Axel Foley: Yeah, these guys are serious. Detective Rosewood: I hate machine guns! Detective Rosewood: Police! You're all under arrest! [Armed thugs answer with a long hail of machine gun fire] Sergeant Taggart: You do that again, I'll shoot you myself! Cigarette Buyer: You know, if you wanna be a fuckin asshole, you can take the whole load and smoke 'em yourself in the park. Axel Foley: I don't smoke Lucky Strikes. Cigarette Buyer: I got people I gotta answer to. Axel Foley: I smoke King-Sized Kents! [Victor is holding Jenny as a cover] Jenny Summers: Axel! [Axel Foley turns, aims at Victor, who is still holding Jenny] Victor Maitland: Careful, old boy. You might hit me. Serge: [taking notice to Axel's interest in the artwork] I see you look at this piece. Axel Foley: Yeah. I was wondering how much something like this went for. Serge: One hundred and thirty thousand dollar. Axel Foley: Get the fuck out of here! Serge: [laughing] No, I cannot! It's serious! Because it's very important piece. Axel Foley: Have you ever sold one of these? Serge: [proudly] Sell it yesterday to a collector. Axel Foley: Get the fuck out of here! Serge: No! I'm serious! I sell it myself! Serge: [Serge is having trouble understanding/pronouncing Axel's first name] Donny, run and tell Miss Summers that, uh, Mister Achmed Foley is here to see her... Axel Foley: No, *Axel* Foley. Axel. Serge: Achnell...? Achwell... Axel Foley: *Axel*. Serge: ...Foley is here to see her, he's an old acquaintance. Detective Rosewood: You know what I keep thinking about? You know the end of Butch Cassidy? Redford and Newman are almost out of ammunition, and the whole Bolivian army is out- out in front of this little hut? Sergeant Taggart: Billy, I'm gonna make you pay for this. Sergeant Taggart: [after Axel has just offered him a hotel robe] Nah, that's alright. You keep it as a souvenir. Axel Foley: I already have three of 'em in my bag. [Rosewood and Taggart are staking out Axel Foley in an upscale hotel. Axel has just had dinner delivered to their car outside] Detective Rosewood: How did he know we were here? Sergeant Taggart: I let you drive. Axel Foley: Did you see that shit? I can describe all of em. Beverly Hills Cop #1: Please move to the side of the car, and put your hands on the hood! Axel Foley: Why, what's with you guys? Beverly Hills Cop #2: You heard what he said, sir. Do it right now, please! Axel Foley: What kind of shit is this, man? Hold up, wait a second! You guys are arresting me for getting thrown out of a fucking window? I got thrown out of a window, man! Beverly Hills Cop #1: Gun, partner! Beverly Hills Cop #1: Sir, you are under arrest; you are to remain silent, anything you say CAN and will be against you in a court of law! You have a right to have an attorney present during questioning... Axel Foley: Yeah, I understand, I understand the rights! I know this is bullshit, man... I got thrown out of a fucking window! Beverly Hills Cop #2: Please get in the car, sir! Axel Foley: Tell me, sir, what's the charge? Beverly Hills Cop #2: Posession of concealed weapons, and disturbing the peace! Axel Foley: Disturbing the peace? I got thrown out of a window! What's the fucking charge for getting pushed out of a moving car, huh? Jaywalking? This is bullshit! Axel Foley: [in strip club with "Nasty Girl" playing in background] [acting drunk] Axel Foley: Hey man what's hapnin' Phil, I new dat was you, he told me that wasn't you, said you don't come here no more, but I said it's Phil! That is Philip, [turns back toward Taggart and Rosewood] Axel Foley: I told you that's Phil, you liar! Strip Club Holdup Man #1: Get outta here man! Axel Foley: Hey Philip, gimme kiss baby! Hey Strip Club Holdup Man #1: [pushes Axel to ground, stops music by scratching needle across record and pulls out sawed-off shotgun] Everybody Freeze! Axel Foley: Phil! Strip Club Holdup Man #1: Get your hands on the table! Axel Foley: Phil! What's wrong man? [getting up from floor] Axel Foley: What's all the hostility Phil? Strip Club Holdup Man #1: Get back man! Axel Foley: Whachoo doin' with all these guns man? Strip Club Holdup Man #1: Get back, I told you to get back! Axel Foley: [moving closer] You changed man! Strip Club Holdup Man #1: I'm tellin' you to get back, if you don't get back I'm gonna blow your f***kin brains out! [rushes toward Axel] Axel Foley: [grabs shotgun, it discharges into ceiling, he elbows shooter in face twice and flips him to ground, pointing and cocking shotgun in his face] Sergeant Taggart: [points pistol into 2nd shooters face] Police, move and I'll kill you! Detective Rosewood: [runs up pointing pistol at shooter] Don't move, rollover! Axel Foley: Way to go, Rosewood, you're some kinda cop, you know that!

Yet still no FM radio. (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400619)

Till Apple adds a 5$ radio receiver I'll not be buying one. Not everything can be downloaded from itunes.

Re:Yet still no FM radio. (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400671)

Then you might want to check out the new iPod nano.

Re:Yet still no FM radio. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29400813)

Or every other player not made by Apple.

Re:Yet still no FM radio. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29400745)

The chip supports FM radio. Depending on the feedback on the nano's FM radio, software support could be added at some point.

I can't wait until an Android gets 802.11n... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29400631)

...to see all the compulsive masturbators among the linux crowd here who tagged this "yawn, whoopdidoo" etc. go crazy and u-turn about how :cool: it is.

Re:I can't wait until an Android gets 802.11n... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29401041)

Don't you have better things to do than lurk around /. all day, Steve Jobs?

Link to stories (2, Informative)

eggboard (315140) | more than 4 years ago | (#29400923)

Sorry, I didn't properly include the link.

My analysis about how the 802.11n stuff works related to an iPod touch, such as explaining what single-stream 802.11n means as a media server is here at TidBITS. [tidbits.com] The iFixIt tear down is here [ifixit.com].

Not surprising (4, Interesting)

R.Mo_Robert (737913) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401053)

This is not surprising, and now that it's confirmed, we can expect Apple to release an 802.11n enabler for iPod touch in the future and charge $.9.95 for it. They're so predictable these days...

What's more interesting than this is that the new iPod touch, while almost identicial to the old one aside from a faster processor and some other things, is almost the exact same inside except for one small change [macrumors.com]: a space big enough to fit the same camera found on the iPod nano (in previous generations there was an antenna cable socket, which has been moved and, in its absence is now just plastic spacer).

There were rumors of an iPod touch camera before it came out, even rumors that pinpointed the camera to this exact location in the device, and there was also a recent rumor that they pulled it due to some problems at the last minute. Looks like this confirms that, and I'm sure we can expect an updated iPod touch in the future with a camera. That, in my opinion, is far more interesting.

Re:Not surprising (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29401691)

This is not surprising, and now that it's confirmed, we can expect Apple to release an 802.11n enabler for iPod touch in the future and charge $.9.95 for it. They're so predictable these days...

Serves your own right for being a sheep buying bling over quality. Stop buying apple junk if you aren't prepared to toe the regular funds line, masturbate over this image of HIV+ lookalike Jobs instead. Just as satisfying, much cheaper!

Skynet Cometh! (1)

chill (34294) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401479)

Soon after Apple activates 802.11n compliant mode, with a future firmware update, I predict a specialized iPod/iPhone botnet. It'll hook up with the recently discovered Linux webserver botnet, which has already hooked with the Windows PC botnet and woe unto the human race!

Apple sucks you idiots! (2, Insightful)

Sam36 (1065410) | more than 4 years ago | (#29401589)

I can't believe you drool over this over priced piece of communism. Don't you love if when people write open sourced software that relies on some garbage closed source api that is only on macs?
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