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Maori Legend of Man-Eating Birds is True

samzenpus posted more than 5 years ago | from the beautiful-plumage dept.

Science 338

jerryatrix writes "Legends of the New Zealand Maori tell of giant man-eating birds. New scientific evidence proves that these birds did exist and were around the same time as humans in New Zealand. From the article, 'Scientists now think the stories handed down by word of mouth and depicted in rock drawings refer to Haast's eagle, a raptor that became extinct just 500 years ago.'"

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so... (5, Funny)

brainstem (519778) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422339)

So it wasn't the dingo, after all.

Re:so... (2, Interesting)

Rophuine (946411) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422363)

Well, it was DIRECTLY the dingo, but then the eagle got the dingo. It's called the food chain, and we're not always at the top!

Re:so... (2, Funny)

PC and Sony Fanboy (1248258) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422467)

we're not always at the top

Sometimes it's nice not to be on top.

You know, change it up a little.
Keeps things fresh.
Puts a little spice in things.

Who am I kidding... *sigh*

Re:so... (5, Informative)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422367)

So it wasn't the dingo, after all.

No dingos in NZ.

Re:so... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422383)

Of course not! Not any more -- did you see the size of those Dingo eating birds?

Re:so... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422425)

Actually there is no evidence that there was ever any land animals whatsoever in NZ except for lizards, insects and spiders. Unless you count flightless birds.

Re:so... (3, Funny)

PC and Sony Fanboy (1248258) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422457)

Actually there is no evidence that there was ever any land animals whatsoever in NZ except for lizards, insects and spiders. Unless you count flightless birds.

So, aside from the sheep-eating lizards, poisonous insects, deadly spiders, and territorial (and vicious) birds... you'd be perfectly safe.

Re:so... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422707)

Actually there is no evidence that there was ever any land animals whatsoever in NZ except for lizards, insects and spiders. Unless you count flightless birds.

So, aside from the sheep-eating lizards, poisonous insects, deadly spiders, and territorial (and vicious) birds... you'd be perfectly safe.

Last I checked we only had man eating birds, and the odd man eating Maori.

Yup.. (5, Funny)

refactored (260886) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422739)

AC said.. Last I checked we only had man eating birds, and the odd man eating Maori.

Yup,...it'd be a pretty Odd man that eats a Maori. Pretty tough buggers those. :-) A bit of a step up from Pit Bull I tell you!

Re:Yup.. (5, Funny)

rve (4436) | more than 5 years ago | (#29423103)

Yup,...it'd be a pretty Odd man that eats a Maori. Pretty tough buggers those.

Tough? You're probably cooking them too fast. Have you tried preparing one sous-vide ?

no evidence of land animals? (3, Funny)

siloko (1133863) | more than 5 years ago | (#29423027)

So, aside from the sheep-eating lizards . . .

. . . well I'm hoping the sheep eating lizards found more than just evidence of 'land animals' else they would soon become 'fuck, where's the sheep?' lizards. Admittedly they sound dangerous too . . .

Re:so... (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29423183)

So, aside from the sheep-eating lizards, poisonous insects, deadly spiders, and territorial (and vicious) birds... you'd be perfectly safe.

Deadly spiders? New Zealand has no snakes and only one species of poisonous spider (the Katipo [wikipedia.org] ) that's rare, endangered, and found only on coastlands (eg. not inland). The next worse thing (probably a whitetail spider [wikipedia.org] ) merely makes you nauseous, and is not deadly.

Because of the tectonic plate movement New Zealand drifted off before animals and before evolution favoured overtly vicious creatures, let alone poisonous creatures.

New Zealand was a land full of birds before humans arrived in about 1000 AD, bringing rats and other animals.

Re:so... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422615)

You totally forgot New Zealand's only native land mammal, the bat. There's an amazing video of the native bat running, because it'd evolved to be flightless like the birds.

But, the Haast Eagle was unconfirmed before this? I've been brought up and it's always been a fact to me.

Re:so... (4, Informative)

flibbajobber (949499) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422691)

The actual news here is that they co-existed with the Maori - it was previously thought they had died out before the Maori arrived. The existence of the Haast's Eagle was well known and there exist Moa bones with massive gouges from being attacked by these Eagles.

Re:so... (4, Funny)

Daimanta (1140543) | more than 5 years ago | (#29423399)

"The actual news here is that they co-existed with the Maori"

If by co-exist you mean EAT THEM, then yes, there was a lot of co-existence.

Video link (5, Informative)

Valdrax (32670) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422821)

There's an amazing video of the native bat running, because it'd evolved to be flightless like the birds.

Video [youtube.com]
Shame on you for talking up something so cool and not providing a link.

Re:so... (5, Informative)

w0mprat (1317953) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422959)

You totally forgot New Zealand's only native land mammal, the bat. There's an amazing video of the native bat running, because it'd evolved to be flightless like the birds.

The native bat is not flightless. It does a funny scamper thing along the ground but this does not make it flightless.

But, the Haast Eagle was unconfirmed before this? I've been brought up and it's always been a fact to me.

Haasts Eagle bones were identified in 1870 by Julius Von Haast. This thing preyed on the Moa, a 12-foot tall 500lb flightless bird. There is no question that a human would have been a much easier much more defenseless snack than a Moa. It would be unlikely that they didn't eat the occasional human.

When the first polynesian settlers showed up they would have climbed out of their Waka http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/waka-canoes [teara.govt.nz] and on to the lunch menu.

Re:so... (4, Informative)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422827)

Actually there is no evidence that there was ever any land animals whatsoever in NZ except for lizards, insects and spiders.

      However unlike Australia, not all of them are poisonous and potentially fatal to humans...

Re:so... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29423325)

Put more simply, there were no mammals in New Zealand until humans (Moriori, some earlier settlers?) came along and imported other mammals.

Re:so... (1)

pthisis (27352) | more than 5 years ago | (#29423415)

Bats are still mammals, and there are certainly species of bats in NZ that predate humans.

DNA? (2, Funny)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422819)

Is there any chance of getting some DNA, cloning a few of these dudes, so that we can set them loose in the cities? I can see the population problem slowly improving. I can see the gene pool improving, at the same time. This idea has promise.....

Re:so... (1)

mi (197448) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422825)

So it wasn't the dingo, after all.

And not the corporations either:

The eagle is thought to have died out after the arrival, 1000 years ago, of humans, who exterminated the giant moa.

At least, the corporate greed is not to blame this time...

Still unanswered... (1, Funny)

MiniMike (234881) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422353)

No word on the part of the legend where they also had giant lasers...

Re:Still unanswered... (4, Funny)

mindbrane (1548037) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422701)

No lasers back then boy, then there was just good and evil. Real evil, the kind you could sell your soul to. God, demi gods, spirits, sprites, ghouls, and, of course, Old Nick himself. But, then came the great Schism.

It started with just the most basic machines, toys really. They're were inspired by God because He'd taken it into His thought about His thought thinking about His thought that since He'd created the place, He was best seen as the Designer, an Intelligent Designer. The Devil argued God hadn't really designed anything at all, had just set things out then let things "Go to Hell", as the Devil put it. But God went on about Intelligent Design and how Man, in His image, should be an Intelligent Designer too. That's when it all started about the machines. The Devil can't stand infernal machines. It's his hearing, it's too acute. He has to be that way to hear even the slightest hint of malicious intent. He finally had enough and headed out with all the lesser spirits in attendance. The lesser spirits were spooked by the machines, called them unnatural.

I was probably the last one to get a good deal on my soul. Soon after I cut my deal, the Devil just didn't make any more offers. His heart just wasn't in it anymore.

God likes the way things have gone. His creations creating. Turning out machines intelligently designed, or nearly so. We haven't spoken in a while, but, when last we spoke He was big on the idea of the entire world as a giant Dyson sphere. I miss the old days when evil had some value.

Regards

A. Faustus

it's past my bedtime, i'm over tired and am probably gonna be sorry i posted this, but what the hell.

Re:Still unanswered... (5, Funny)

Thanshin (1188877) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422875)

"After an unprecedented archeological effort, the last page of the original bible has finally been found. It contains just one sentence."

it's past my bedtime, i'm over tired and am probably gonna be sorry i posted this, but what the hell.

Re:Still unanswered... (1)

Gandalf_Greyhame (44144) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422957)

In the same dig they also located the first page of the bible. It reads,

To my darling Candy.
All characters portrayed are fictional and any
resemblance to any persons is merely coincidental

Religious groups around the world are condemning the find and refuting its authenticity

Re:Still unanswered... (1)

Vahokif (1292866) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422919)

You should start a religion.

Wait (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422359)

There's a legend about a man who eats birds?

Re:Wait (1)

JustOK (667959) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422433)

He was a Colonel and even had millions of people helping him.

Close (1)

sifRAWR (1544341) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422371)

Dingos were australian. Wrong country I'm afraid :P

Re:Close (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422413)

Dingos were australian. Wrong country I'm afraid :P

Were...? Still are, I think you'll find.

Damn. (3, Funny)

FlyingSquidStudios (1031284) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422391)

The Maori didn't mess around with animals they didn't like. They killed off the Moa too.

NZ pacifist warrior culture (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422475)

Yes, modern NZ is a bit funny.
They have gone politically Left and therefore fairly pacifist, but at the same time they are an amalgamation of the Maori warrior culture and the English (not to be F'd with either).

So, while NZ may no longer be looking to go to war, back the F' up if they ever do.

Re:NZ pacifist warrior culture (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422649)

New Zealand has two military intelligence bases, Waihopi and the other I forget the name of, both of which are apart of the ECHELON Network. New Zealand 'Peace Keepers' are situated in Timor Leste, were involved in Bougainvillea (both small Pacific islands) and are in various other Pacific nations right now. New Zealand followed ' lead into South Africa in the Boer Wars, even conquered German Samoa at the start of World War One (we literally had a Prime Minister with an Imperialist vision for New Zealand at one point), went to Africa and and Europe during WWI (the famous words about Britain 'Where she goes, we go') and by a quirk of our time zones, New Zealand was the first to declare war on Germany. We fought in Europe again during WWII, and we protected the Pacific from the Japanese threat. In the fifties, we sent the K-Force into Korea, and troops got involved in the Malay Conflict (as 'military advisor's' of course). I have a second-cousin once removed that was killed fighting in Vietnam in the NZ Contingent, though our force over there was a token. And up until 2006 the S.A.S. were in Afghanistan, and rumoured to have done over the border trips into Iraq. They've just been given the go ahead for redeployment.

In short, do your research man.

Re:NZ pacifist warrior culture (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422887)

1) At no point in time did I doubt NZ's abilities or say that they have not made very valuable contributions in the past. Quite the opposite.

2) That said I was not aware of the Afghan SAS. I had assumed Helen Clark had put an end any "foreign adventures"

Re:NZ pacifist warrior culture (1)

djupedal (584558) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422941)

I was once stationed at 'the other I forget the name of'. We went into town on a weekend pass and had the hardest time finding a taxi driver that knew the way back. Ended up it was just over the hill from 'some city I can't recall just now'.

Re:NZ pacifist warrior culture (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 5 years ago | (#29423271)

I've experience the very same thing in the Caribbean. I wonder if it's a conspiracy.

Re:NZ pacifist warrior culture (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29423247)

So how does it feel to be from a country that almost always chooses the wrong side to fight on?

Re:NZ pacifist warrior culture (1)

benesch (747215) | more than 5 years ago | (#29423359)

And up until 2006 the S.A.S. were in Afghanistan, and rumoured to have done over the border trips into Iraq

NZ occupies Iran?????

Re:NZ pacifist warrior culture (1)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422713)

Funnily enough, I believe it was due to the warrior culture of the Maori that the white immigrants were able to peacefully (well, more peaceful then us aussies did with the aboriginals) co-exist. From what I've heard (which is only a very little bit), the maori tribes were too busy fighting each other to pay much attention to the white immigrants and that they even allied with the white immigrants to help them in their fights with the other tribes.

Had they been slightly more peaceful, they might have united against the immigrants and successfully driven them off. As it was, they mostly just ignored the immigrants because they were too busy fighting each other.

At least, that's what I've been told. I might have got it COMPLETELY wrong ;)

Re:NZ pacifist warrior culture (3, Interesting)

carolfromoz (1552209) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422777)

Yeah I also understood they did better than us because of the Maori being fighters - but more because the arriving whiteys realised they couldn't just walk all over the natives and had better cut some deals. In Australia we just hunted them down, poisoned their flour, etc etc

Re:NZ pacifist warrior culture (4, Interesting)

CmdrGravy (645153) | more than 5 years ago | (#29423337)

I think, from what I've read somewhere, that another reason the Maoris didn't come off as badly as some of the other indigenous people the British came across is that they were excellent fighters. Since they did spend most of their spare time fighting each other they had had a lot of practice when it came to fighting the British.

Despite the fact the colonists had naval guns and firearms the Maoris were able to devise tactics which completely negated the advantage they would have otherwise provided and dealt out a couple of fairly comprehensive beatings to the colonists so much so that during WWI the British actually recruited Maori elders to advise them how to conduct effective trench warfare.

Re:NZ pacifist warrior culture (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422785)

So, while NZ may no longer be looking to go to war, back the F' up if they ever do.

The same can be said from all of England's colonies/conquests. The ANZACs surely earned their reputation in both world wars, but would you discount the role played by the Gurkhas, Canadians, or even the Scots? When you heard bagpipes, saw turbans, or heard "eh" or "no worries" on the battlefield, it was time to run...

New Zealand fauna (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422397)

I lived in New Zealand for awhile and it's shocking the number of flightless birds that died out. The final death blow to some species was the introduction of rats. They ate the eggs of birds and wiped out many species of Weta Bugs. New Zealand missed out on the mega Fauna extinction their's happened in the last 2,000 years instead of 10,000 to 15,000 years ago. Modern science just missed out on a lot of species. Hard to believe how different the world was 20,000 years ago, 500 years ago was nothing. It was only a few lifetimes before Europeans set foot in New Zealand.

Re:New Zealand fauna (1)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422753)

your sad about weta bugs? those things fucking bite you.

Re:New Zealand fauna (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29423385)

I once removed a weta from the girls loo at school by hand and it didn't bite me.

I want one as a pet (1)

Slavik81 (1457219) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422409)

Gentlemen, start your cloning!

Big bird. (1)

Neanderthal Ninny (1153369) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422427)

Now this is big bird.

Re:Big bird. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422583)

Great. Now I'll never look at Sesame Street the same way again.

And now you know why LOTR was made in New Zealand (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422439)

The eagles are coming! The eagles are coming!

And you thought that was CG!

And people want to save the dying species.. (2)

PC and Sony Fanboy (1248258) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422443)

I'm just glad there weren't any environmentalists trying to save this bird, 500 years ago.

Then again ... maybe there were a few (tasty) ones...

Kind of a shame... (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422591)

It would be cool if it was alive today...

I mean, it's not as if that's the only creature that could singlehandedly overpower a human, even the only one that could swallow us whole. Should we have killed all the lions, tigers, and bears?

I would love to have seen one of these in a zoo.

Of course, the fact that they're gone means we can actually go to New Zealand safely...

Re:Kind of a shame... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422687)

Of course, the fact that they're gone means we can actually go to New Zealand safely...

Now all's we need is a reason to actually go there.

Re:Kind of a shame... (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 5 years ago | (#29423297)

"Of course, the fact that they're gone means we can actually go to New Zealand safely..."

Dude, you haven't been paying attention. All the badass critters have been killed off, because there are badass PEOPLE living there!! Between the Maori and the Anglos, you're likely to be eaten if you visit there!!

In Tune... (4, Interesting)

Das Auge (597142) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422455)

The primary reason that they went extinct was due to a loss of food. The Maori hunted all of the moa species of bird (large and flightless) to extinction. Another prime example of natives living "in tune" with nature...

Re:In Tune... (1)

Rophuine (946411) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422471)

There are thousands of examples, in nature, of invading or adapting species eating out the food supply of other species, causing extinctions. This isn't an example of natives not living 'in tune' with nature, it's an example of people being 'a part of' nature.

Re:In Tune... (5, Insightful)

Samgilljoy (1147203) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422675)

I think you may have missed the sarcastic subtext of the original post. There's a recurrent myth in the modern world, especially in technologically developed societies, that "natives" or "primitive man" or whatever somehow lived and still live "in tune" with nature or in harmony with it or whatever. They all supposedly respect the land in a way we don't, are inherently wise, spiritual, blah, blah, blah.

You are, of course, correct in pointing out that hunting species to extinction is a very natural thing to do, though it depends on how you define things. The original poster was poking fun at the myths using the terms as propagators of the myth would themselves define them. Arguing what's natural and what's not is a different issue.

More often than not, past and "primitive" societies would have exploited or would exploit nature as thoroughly as we do, anyway, were it not for limitations of populations and technology.

Re:In Tune... (1)

Rophuine (946411) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422765)

... That's pretty much a longer version of what I meant. I didn't flesh it out, but I was worried that the OP was NOT being sarcastic. Just, you know, clearin' things up. Perhaps, I might add that you could replace 'past and "primitive" societies' with 'animal populations'. My point was that it's a basic instinctual drive, we're just more successful than the other critters.

Re:In Tune... (5, Insightful)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422811)

past and "primitive" societies would have exploited or would exploit nature as thoroughly as we do, anyway, were it not for limitations of populations and technology.

      Dead on. The only reason the buffalo was still around in huge quantities was because native americans didn't have rifles, or horses for that matter.

Native cultures were famous for "slash and burn" agriculture, possibly the most destructive farming method around that leeches all the nitrates out of the soil in just a few years, forcing the farmer to keep moving (and destroying his surrounding jungle). Crop rotation was a European invention.

      One mustn't let guilty feelings about the de facto destruction of native cultures by European civilization lead us into believing that somehow these people were much better than us. They were just people. Some were good. Some were bad. Every one of them left an environmental mark on the world around them.

Re:In Tune... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29423073)

This is so, so wrong. Slash and burn agriculture (swidden) is generally sustainable form of farming and many indigenous people have practiced it continuously for thousands of years. Swidden has even been shown to improve biodiversity of secondary forests fallows on which it is practiced.

Re:In Tune... (1)

codeButcher (223668) | more than 5 years ago | (#29423253)

Do you perhaps mean Slash-and-char [wikipedia.org] ?

Re:In Tune... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29423177)

it was not only the rifle. one could kill buffalos in larger quantities without bullets - the problem is the conservation and transportation of the meat afterwards. It was the invention of artificial cooling (first by storing ice harvested in winter in caves, later by technological methods) that enabled the processing and transportation of meat besides the local butcher or the on side camp. This made mass killing 'reasonable' and finished off the buffalo.

Re:In Tune... (5, Informative)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 5 years ago | (#29423343)

*cough cough*

The buffalo wasn't finished off because the white invaders ate them up. The Army wanted the herds destroyed, with the goal of depriving natives of food. Around the same time, the railroads promoted trophy hunting, because the herds were a threat to the trains.

The near extinction of the buffalo would be less shameful if they had been hunted for food. Millions of buffalo were slaughtered, just to rot in the sun.

Re:In Tune... (1)

Rophuine (946411) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422829)

Wait, no. I got the sarcastic subtext; I thought you were referring to some kind of meta-sarcasm. My point was that the hunting out of a species is no different to the over-predation that any predator will engage in. Where there are multiple food sources, one less successful food source can be completely depleted.

The myth is that 'primitive man' was somehow "in tune" with nature; the reality is that 'primitive man' has no inherent in-tune-ness or spiritual connection with nature, but then nor do other carnivores. Or herbivores, or plants, or whatever. Nature is competitive, and extinction is a natural process.

That doesn't absolve us of responsibility, though; we're supposed to be able to 'rise above' our animal instincts. We should be MORE in tune with nature.

Re:In Tune... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422943)

The way I heard it was that the Maori killed off the Moa through overhunting, and then realising what they'd done turned to sustainable agriculture. They learnt their lesson, apparently we haven't.

Re:In Tune... (1)

Rophuine (946411) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422967)

That's odd, I thought we were practicing sustainable agriculture and conservation as well? Wait, who's 'we' in your case?

Re:In Tune... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29423251)

This isn't an example of natives not living 'in tune' with nature, it's an example of people being 'a part of' nature.

I think it's good to get some numbers here to understand what happened.

Maori destroyed about 1/3 of New Zealand's forest [mfe.govt.nz] and European's destroyed another 1/3rd.

The Maori hunting technique was to start forest fires and catch the animals as they rushed out. Europeans burnt forests to get more farming land.

Re:In Tune... (3, Informative)

unfunk (804468) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422533)

by "natives" are you referring to the Maori people? Because they're not native to New Zealand [wikipedia.org]

Re:In Tune... (5, Insightful)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422733)

Are any of us native to anywhere except Africa?

Re:In Tune... (1)

sweetnavelorange (1192975) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422737)

What value of "native" exactly would you count as "native"? They're as native to New Zealand as any humans are to anywhere except maybe the rift valley, ie., a distinct subpopulation that has developed solely in a certain place. Your link just explains their ancestry - you won't find M

Re:In Tune... (1)

the_womble (580291) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422759)

Human beings are not native to anyway other than Africa.

It is usual to regard the surviving (in significant numbers) identifiable group that has been longest in a place as native - so we can regard the English as native to England, the Turks as native to Turkey, the Japanese as native to Japan etc.

I cannot think of anywhere that has not been overrun by invaders who have displaced a previous people at some point its its history.

Re:In Tune... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29423227)

Hate to burst yer bubble there but even the "Japanese" aren't native to Japan. The current "Japanese" are probably from china or some other asian country.

"Native" Japanese are called the Ainu and probably came to Japan a hell of a long time ago via a land bridge. They are the "Natives" of Japan and like most natives got shafted by the colonists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people

Re:In Tune... (1)

Johnno74 (252399) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422975)

Yes, and yet modern day Maori have rights to issue themselves "Customary fishing permits" which are except from any bag limits or equipment restrictions that all other amateur fishermen must obey.

Glad these things are gone (2, Interesting)

pwizard2 (920421) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422483)

Some species of Terror Bird [wikipedia.org] would chase down their prey and literally peck it to death. They had an interesting feature about these things on Discovery last night; with this story it just seemed appropriate to mention it.

Re:Glad these things are gone (5, Funny)

Mr. Roadkill (731328) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422531)

Some species of Terror Bird [wikipedia.org] would chase down their prey and literally peck it to death. They had an interesting feature about these things on Discovery last night; with this story it just seemed appropriate to mention it.

Polly wants a cracker. NOW. And a couple of llamas. And a six pack of assorted primates, starting with you.

Re:Glad these things are gone (1)

SoupIsGoodFood_42 (521389) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422993)

Kea [wikipedia.org] have also been known to do that to sheep.

It...can't...be (1)

popo (107611) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422495)

A legend of a man... eating birds?

What's next? Some kind of ...fried chicken?

Re:It...can't...be (0, Offtopic)

Sooner Boomer (96864) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422633)

In Soviet Russia, bird eat YOU!

Re:It...can't...be (1)

Man Eating Duck (534479) | more than 5 years ago | (#29423373)

A legend of a man... eating birds?

It *can* happen, I tell ya! :)

Let me break it down for you... (2, Funny)

tcopeland (32225) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422499)

Don't go into Power Dome A [penny-arcade.com] .

Re:Let me break it down for you... (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422605)

Or the garage [penny-arcade.com] .

Re:Let me break it down for you... (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422627)

Not to reply to myself, but...

There's more [penny-arcade.com] .

Perhaps not only in NZ (1)

andyh-rayleigh (512868) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422519)

So - just maybe - the Roc may also have existed???

Re:Perhaps not only in NZ (1, Troll)

dbIII (701233) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422833)

So - just maybe - the Roc may also have existed???

Perhaps, but only in a hard place.

Cool, but can we clone it? (4, Funny)

Plazmid (1132467) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422541)

It became extinct fairly recently, why don't we clone it? Surely these things will make a great addition to the New Zealand Air Defense Force.

Re:Cool, but can we clone it? (1, Redundant)

grcumb (781340) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422645)

It became extinct fairly recently, why don't we clone it? Surely these things will make a great addition to the New Zealand Air Defense Force.

Well, it would at least mean that New Zealand would have an Air Defence Force...

(I'm Canadian [satirewire.com] . I'm allowed to make these jokes.)

Re:Cool, but can we clone it? (1)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422755)

While they might not hagve an air defence force, I believe they recently started testing anti air missiles. Apparently their epsionage forces finally recovered the plans to what they call The Catapault.

(I'm Australian. I'm allowed to make these jokes).

Re:Cool, but can we clone it? (1)

Johnno74 (252399) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422935)

While they might not hagve an air defence force, I believe they recently started testing anti air missiles. Apparently their epsionage forces finally recovered the plans to what they call The Catapault.

(I'm Australian. I'm allowed to make these jokes).

I'm a NZer living in australia, and I approve of your joke :)

NZ is a great place, but I'm convinced that the population is just too small, and some of the people living there are just too much of a dead weight to really let the country succeed.

This is a shame, as there are some awesomely smart creative people there.

Re:Cool, but can we clone it? (1)

Bede EW (1002882) | more than 5 years ago | (#29423199)

What defence force? [youtube.com]

Okay. . . (1)

mrgiles (872216) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422559)

Who was the smart arse that tagged this 'australia'?

Re:Okay. . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422569)

Probably an Australian wanting to yank a few kiwi chains. Pretty funny, if you're west of the Tasman.

Re:Okay. . . (4, Funny)

aussie_a (778472) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422763)

Pffft. We don't want New Zealand! Tasmanians are bad enough with all their in-breeding. If we allow the New Zealanders in we'll forever be associated with beastiality as well!

Re:Okay. . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422677)

Same thing. Like china and japan.

Only men? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422571)

Did the man eating bird eat only men? Or was it gender neutral?

Don't ANYONE tell Randall Munroe. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422719)

I don't think the poor guy could handle knowing there were raptors roaming free just 500 Years ago.

Too bad McDonalds wasn't around back then (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29422723)

Imagine how many nuggets one of these would make

Unladen Velocity? (1)

BJ_Covert_Action (1499847) | more than 5 years ago | (#29422823)

According to TFA:

With a wingspan of up to three metres and weighing 18kg, the female was twice as big as the largest living eagle, the Steller's sea eagle.

So it's late and I don't have my trusty TI-89, can anyone calculate the maximum airspeed of this beast? ... Unladen of course =)

I can't see it being a problem really, unless there is an African variant....

Re:Unladen Velocity? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29423165)

My 3 meter F3B racing model glider has 3M span and weighs less than 3KG. With a very thin low camber airfoil it can reach in excess of 350KMH.

Bird is heavier, but pobably would have more drag.

Bird eating man, man eating bird? (1)

rts008 (812749) | more than 5 years ago | (#29423275)

So, the questions begin...
Man tastes like chicken, or was this just fowl 69-action pr0n?

Excuse me while I bleach my brain.

mo3 Up (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29423333)

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