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Gene Roddenberry's Mac Plus Is Coming Up For Auction

kdawson posted more than 5 years ago | from the perfect-storm-of-gadget-lust dept.

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Harry writes "In 1986, Apple unveiled one of the most popular Macintoshes ever, the Mac Plus. The company gave the first one (serial number #F4200NUM0001) to Star Trek's creator, Gene Roddenberry. And now this very Mac Plus will go up for auction at a Hollywood collectibles event on October 8th and 9th, complete with a letter of authenticity from Roddenberry's son. The estimated value is only $800-$1200, which seems reasonable enough, given its double historical significance." Any bets on how high the bidding will go?

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Anonymous Coward (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462239)

1,000,000 HAHAHAHA

Re:Anonymous Coward (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462263)

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Re:Anonymous Coward (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462371)

Jesus, Rush, lighten up. Keep it up and you guys will lose big in 2012, too.

Re:Anonymous Coward (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29463585)

Obama is only 1/4th black.

Re:Anonymous Coward (1)

lorenlal (164133) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462273)

No... 100... BILLION! [canpages.ca]

Re:Anonymous Coward (1)

timlyg (266415) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462843)

What about "We don't use money anymore"?

Good Piece of History (1)

jshriverWVU (810740) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462249)

I bet it'll go for 3-4k. If they were to auction it for charity I'd bet it'd easily go over 10k

Re:Good Piece of History (1)

matty619 (630957) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462265)

I wonder why they're auctioning it just now in the first place? Gene's been dead for over 20 years now.....does someone need money?

Re:Good Piece of History (2, Informative)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462277)

Erm, no. Almost 18, not over 20. [wikipedia.org]

Re:Good Piece of History (5, Insightful)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462267)

10k? This is Gene Roddenberry, man. His fans will pay $10k for a ripped shirt stained with Shatner's sweat. I'll bet this could clear a quarter mil.

Re:Good Piece of History (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462309)

Why would anyone need more than 640K?

Math Fail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29463783)

250K < 640K.

Re:Good Piece of History (1, Interesting)

cptdondo (59460) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462357)

No shit. I've been in elementary school auctions where a fruit basket went for $2K just because it had some kid's paw print on it.

This will be in the mid 6 figures - although given the economy maybe low 6 figures.

Re:Good Piece of History (1)

pegdhcp (1158827) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462707)

It all depends on whether Jobs and/or Woz are Trekkies themselves or not. The fact that the thing carries a serial number like #F4200NUM0001 tells something...

Re:Good Piece of History (4, Informative)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462985)

It does indeed. Did you know that the 128k Macintosh was the very first Macintosh model ever produced? The very first, I tell you!

Plugging the serial number into the Early Macintosh Serial decoder [macfaq.org] yields:

Your Macintosh 128 (M0001), with serial number F4200NUM0001, was the 776th manufactured during the 20th week of 1984 in Fremont, CA.

Re:Good Piece of History (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 5 years ago | (#29464469)

Known Bugs

        * Does not work to magically reveal working serial numbers for software you've pirated. Don't expect this "bug" to be fixed. Ever. Those of you attempting to use this decoder to pirate software are having your IP addresses logged, and they will be reported to your ISP. Don't believe me? Have a gander at these. I WILL report you, and you WON'T like the results. Do I make myself clear?

---

What a dick. Can anyone point me at pirated Mac software? It would be fun to dick around with the dick.

Re:Good Piece of History (3, Funny)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 5 years ago | (#29464687)

Mac fans show their people skills once again.

Re:Good Piece of History (1)

uvajed_ekil (914487) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462359)

Yeah, 1200 bucks is waaaay low. I would probably never bid on something like that even if I had a bunch of money to blow, but it is something pretty cool (or super uncool?) that a few Roddenberry/Trek fans will certainly drool over. Throw in the fact that it's an old Mac and you have one more factor that makes it special to a definite niche market. No million bucks here, but probably $10k-ish, and definitely way more than $800.

Re:Good Piece of History (3, Insightful)

Nefarious Wheel (628136) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462673)

My guess would be Paul Allen, or a proxy thereof, will sit there bidding until he wins. And it will go for over $120,000, easily.

Re:Good Piece of History (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462487)

no no. Just over 9000 :)

Re:Good Piece of History (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462647)

If they were to auction it for charity I'd bet it'd easily go over 9k

Fixed that for you...

Bets on how high? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462259)

400 quatloos!!

Re:Bets on how high? (4, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462479)

Damned Canadians and their odd money!

Re:Bets on how high? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462577)

400 quatloos!!

Best. Answer. EVER!

Re:Bets on how high? (2, Funny)

sarahbau (692647) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462651)

half a gram of Anjoran bio-mimetic gel

Re:Bets on how high? (3, Funny)

zonker (1158) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462983)

I hear they only deal in gold pressed latinum. Damned Ferengis.

Re:Bets on how high? (1)

ettlz (639203) | more than 5 years ago | (#29463517)

You keep your quatloos to yourself. I'll stick to my flushing Western pedestal, thank-you very much.

I'll bid on it... (3, Funny)

i_liek_turtles (1110703) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462283)

...and write Spock/Kirk slash.

Re:I'll bid on it... (1)

NixieBunny (859050) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462321)

The auction should be on fanfiction.net, where the folks who would really get some use out of this machine congregate. Except that they're all living at home still. Oh, well...

Re:I'll bid on it... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462877)

The auction should be on fanfiction.net, where the folks who would really get some use out of this machine congregate. Except that they're all living at home still. Oh, well...

Doesn't everyone technically live at home, with home being defined as "where you live"?

It depends (5, Funny)

mysidia (191772) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462291)

At a Hollywood collectibles event, it will probably go for $200k.

If they had listed it on eBay, and slashdotted the listing, they would probably get bids in amounts over $10 million+.

But I guess after eBay fees, they're better off selling it at the Hollywood collectibles event :)

Re:It depends (5, Funny)

lofoforabr (751004) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462399)

eBay must be run by the Ferengi.
In fact, they seem to be even greedier than the Ferengi.

Re:It depends (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462879)

Is there some sort of hidden fee I wasn't aware of?

I mean, it sounds like a lot, but looking at this calculator [slashdot.org] , with all the optional extras turned on (except Buy It Now, because they'd have to be stupid to do that), it adds up to less than 5% with a final bid of 10 million.

Ferengi tend to be disappointed if they only get half.

Re:It depends (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462401)

No, as Indiana Jones wold say "This belongs in a MUSEUM."

I Bid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462299)

10 quatloos.

Apple Care (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462313)

Does it come with a year of Apple Care?

Re:Apple Care (4, Funny)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462323)

It would, if Apple cared.

Re:Apple Care (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29464279)

I am sure they bricked it years ago LOL

Re:Apple Care (1)

RivenAleem (1590553) | more than 5 years ago | (#29464643)

It was Apple Cored?

By Neruos (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462325)

My bet will most likely be under $1k. If the machine has the original harddrive I'm willing to go up to $2-3k.

Re:By Neruos (1)

jshriverWVU (810740) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462355)

If so I would dd dump the drive and bit scan it. Would be neat to pull out an old unreleased work that he scratched.

Re:By Neruos (4, Informative)

Robin47 (1379745) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462381)

I had a Mac Plus. It didn't have a drive. Just one floppy drive.

Re:By Neruos (5, Informative)

alexandre_ganso (1227152) | more than 5 years ago | (#29463041)

The serial number and the pictures are of an original mac, not a plus. However, see what the auction house said:

We've gotten several inquires about this by the fantastically loyal and knowledgeable Mac community. After further investigating the item, here's the information:
Firstly, this Macintosh was, indeed, presented to Gene Roddenberry by Apple. There is no doubt about this.
The conflict between the photo and the serial number is as follows. This computer, given by Apple to Mr. Roddenberry, is an early production Macintosh 128 (#776), which was then upgraded by Apple for Gene to a Macintosh Plus-thus the model number / serial number / panel that "belongs to" a Macintosh Plus. The 0001 led us to mistakenly believe that it was the first one off the line.
Again, the provenance of the item is perfect and it did belong to Mr. Roddenberry. I apologize for any confusion.

Re:By Neruos (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29463599)

Star Trek, the gay chronicles.

I think... (0, Redundant)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462329)

10 pieces of gold-pressed latinum.

LK

Re:I think... (1)

lofoforabr (751004) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462379)

Ahh, my friend, but never forget rule of acquisition #3:
"Never pay more for an acquisition than you have to"
I'd go for 2 bars of gold-pressed latinum at most

Re:I think... (1)

shadowblaster (1565487) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462457)

Considering the price of gold nowadays, that 2 bars would be about $800K. Gold Bar [wikipedia.org]

Re:I think... (1)

pluther (647209) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462667)

And that's just the gold. Imagine what it would be worth with the latinum intact!

Re:I think... (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462887)

Makes you wonder why they chose to encase latinum with worthless gold...

Re:I think... (1)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 5 years ago | (#29463203)

Inert. Gold doesn't like reacting with stuff. Maybe latinum is reactive with... stuff.

Re:I think... (1)

tagno25 (1518033) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462389)

15m^3 of tritanium and 5cm^3 verterium cortenide

Re:I think... (1)

shentino (1139071) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462565)

10 whats?

Is that slips, strips, bars, or bricks?

Imagine (3, Funny)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462353)

...what you'd find on the main hard disc with a sector editor. THEN bid.

Re:Imagine (1)

JDeane (1402533) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462419)

I myself was wondering this. I mean maybe he started to work on some projects then deleted them. The data might still be there! I doubt he wrote very much on it but it is possible to find something of value.

Re:Imagine (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462477)

What are you guys talking about? Mac Pluses don't have hard disks.

Re:Imagine (2, Informative)

Orion Blastar (457579) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462511)

Yeah maybe so but some of his stories like the The God Thing [well.com] and other stories he couldn't finish or sell would be found. You will find that many authors get writer's block and if they have less than 50,000 words written on a book, they usually scrap it and start on a new different book. Writer's block is quite common, which I guess is why Roddenberry couldn't finish the God Thing story, but I guess he had enough of it written to keep it and try to pass it on to other writers to finish for him. So any deleted data would be books and movie scripts that got aborted due to writer's block and he had to quit them and give up and work on something different.

Oh yeah IIRC the Mac Plus didn't come with a hard drive, it used 3.5" floppy disks. It has a SCSI1 port to use an external hard drive and if it is not included with the auction you won't be recovering any data. The Mac Plus had no support for an internal hard drive like the Mac SE replacement had. I know as I have both a Mac Plus and Mac SE that I have worked on.

Re:Imagine (1)

Trogre (513942) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462791)

"Overrated" is a good substitute, if someone has been modded up +1 Informative and is clearly, and I mean clearly, wrong.

And that happens frequently here.

Re:Imagine (4, Informative)

GrahamCox (741991) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462531)

The data might still be there

Nope. The Mac Plus had no internal hard drive.

Re:Imagine (2, Informative)

chadbryant (814231) | more than 5 years ago | (#29463953)

Not only did the Mac Plus not have a hard drive, the 800k floppy drive it did have was notoriously fickle and unreliable, often killing more than a few disks on its way to the hardware graveyard. When I had the chance to clean out (and keep whatever I wanted from) a storage container full of discarded educational hardware (mostly Macs from the Plus era up to the IIsi era), I learned very quickly that Pluses were pretty much a waste of time to haul home, especially when the modular-plug keyboard (this was pre-ADB) was dead as well.

Re:Imagine (2, Funny)

johncadengo (940343) | more than 5 years ago | (#29464143)

The data might still be there

Nope. The Mac Plus had no internal hard drive.

Oh, really? Then explain to me where they stored the formula for the transparent aluminum. On the invisible drive? Yeah, right, I'm not stupid.

Re:Imagine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462473)

except it has no hdd.

No Hard Drive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462493)

The Mac Plus did not have an internal hard drive, and no external drive appears to be listed with it. The Mac Plus was, however, the first Mac to have a SCSI port to support external hard drives, although it was slightly nonstandard and didn't work with a lot of external drives made after the mid-1990s. Earlier Macs had to access an external hard drive through the floppy port, which was rather slow, never mind the poor capacity of hard drives in the mid-1980s. If this was a modified Mac of an earlier vintage it might or might not be an actual Mac Plus with a SCSI port. I didn't see a picture of the back of the computer.

The picture does show it with an external floppy drive, but it seems less likely it comes with any of Gene's old floppy disks.

Re:Imagine (1)

shadowblaster (1565487) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462671)

That Gene Roddenberry had transferred his consciousness to the Mac.

Re:Imagine (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462751)

Yep. There's an ep for that.

Wait a minute! You're forgetting something! (5, Funny)

Bruce Perens (3872) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462391)

This the the Mac Plus with the formula for Transparent Aluminum on it!

Re:Wait a minute! You're forgetting something! (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462435)

This the the Mac Plus with the formula for Transparent Aluminum on it!

I wonder if you can give it instructions by talking into the mouse?

Re:Wait a minute! You're forgetting something! (1)

alexandre_ganso (1227152) | more than 5 years ago | (#29463057)

Of course not, as Scotty noticed years ago. But it may contain Rod's katra!

$1701 (0, Redundant)

Ken_g6 (775014) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462397)

It may go for more, but I'd bet someone at least bids that amount.

Re:$1701 (4, Funny)

ari_j (90255) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462603)

The really problem is that every fan will bid $1701. Therefore, only a non-fan can possibly win the auction. </Spock>

Re:$1701 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29463813)

> The really problem is that every fan will bid $1701. Therefore, only a non-fan can possibly win the auction.

what about $1701b, $1701c and $1701d? So the maximum bid would be up to $94237

Re:$1701 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462857)

I'm *SURE* it will go for more; but I just bid exactly that. (If it comes down to it, I'm willing to buy it for that. Heck, if I actually have to pay $1701, that will be even more 'cool-factor' for it.)

apple needs to restart Star Trek proposal and have (-1, Offtopic)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462417)

apple needs to restart Star Trek proposal and have mac os x for all x86 hardware back then dell the others did not want it (part of the M$ lock in that the killed beos, os/2 and others) now dell and others want it vista is a big bust and linux is ganging ground.

Re:apple needs to restart Star Trek proposal and h (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462445)

who stole your punctuation?

Re:apple needs to restart Star Trek proposal and h (3, Insightful)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462641)

apple needs to restart Star Trek proposal and have mac os x for all x86 hardware back then dell the others did not want it (part of the M$ lock in that the killed beos, os/2 and others) now dell and others want it vista is a big bust and linux is ganging ground.

Wow, and here I thought F. Scott Fitzgerald was dead...

Re:apple needs to restart Star Trek proposal and h (2, Insightful)

Shag (3737) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462793)

I thought people only posted while drunk on Fark.

Not as originally advertised (5, Informative)

m509272 (1286764) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462431)

determined to be not as advertised

We've gotten several inquires about this by the fantastically loyal and knowledgeable Mac community. After further investigating the item, here's the information:
Firstly, this Macintosh was, indeed, presented to Gene Roddenberry by Apple. There is no doubt about this.
The conflict between the photo and the serial number is as follows. This computer, given by Apple to Mr. Roddenberry, is an early production Macintosh 128 (#776), which was then upgraded by Apple for Gene to a Macintosh Plus-thus the model number / serial number / panel that "belongs to" a Macintosh Plus. The 0001 led us to mistakenly believe that it was the first one off the line.
Again, the provenance of the item is perfect and it did belong to Mr. Roddenberry. I apologize for any confusion.

Re:Not as originally advertised (4, Insightful)

Shag (3737) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462839)

The upgrade from 128K to Mac Plus spec is actually pretty significant, since the 128K was only supported until MacOS 4 while the Plus was supported until 7.5.5 (which was a pretty decent OS). I suspect this is going to go more to someone who wants it because of the provenance, though, and rarely if ever get used. I hope whoever buys it sets it up to play a slideshow of Trek photos or something.

Re:Not as originally advertised (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29463335)

Nitpick: that would be System 4. The term "MacOS" was only introduced with MacOS 7.6.

Added bonus (3, Funny)

Comatose51 (687974) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462449)

As an added bonus, you get a mouse that doubles as a microphone and understands voice input.

Language Packs (2, Funny)

i_liek_turtles (1110703) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462501)

I require the interface and documentation to be in Klingon.

Double what? (1)

djupedal (584558) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462519)

Listen.... When you kill two birds with one stone... that's a double but not historical. When you make two holes-in-one on the same course, that might be historical, but again, not nearly a ddddddouble.

But when you boink twin-sisters on the same day, in the same bed, with the same erection....now you're talking.

McGiver In Federation Space? (1, Funny)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462571)

Is it just me, or did anyone else read the title and immediately think they were auctioning the rights for a remake of McGiver in the 25th century?

Yellow (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462613)

Is it impossible to find any original Mac that isn't yellow now?

I mean, check this Amiga 1000. [flickr.com] (Yeah, I don't remember mine ever looking that good either. What a score.)

But Macs, I haven't see /one/ in the last ten years that hasn't succumbed to nasty yellow. Is there no hope? Anyone have one that's still white?

Re:Yellow (5, Informative)

Dewin (989206) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462987)

There's a few ways to restore or prevent the yellowing. I can't find the original page I saw before, but this [hackaday.com] has more information.

Latinum... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462653)

I'll pay twelve bars of gold-pressed latinum for it!

Floppies? (1)

pluther (647209) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462705)

Will it come with a collection of the floppy disks Gene Roddenberry used with it?

I can just see it, though: "Those? Our research showed they were only $.39 each new, so the value would only start at just under $400 for the thousand we threw away..."

3 bars of gold pressed latinum (2, Informative)

Sir_Sri (199544) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462833)

3 bars of gold pressed latinum.

Seriously, I don't see it as much other than a museum piece. Odds are if it still works, it won't for very much longer, leaving it a glorified vase, with toxic metals in it.

Glorified vase? Think Different! (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 5 years ago | (#29463117)

MacQuarium! [applefritter.com]

Put a little Time Travel Arch in there. Magic!

Re:3 bars of gold pressed latinum (2, Insightful)

Mr680x0 (1116783) | more than 5 years ago | (#29464345)

Odds are if it still works, it won't for very much longer, leaving it a glorified vase, with toxic metals in it.

What do you mean it won't work much longer? Chances are it'll last years longer, just like most other Apple hardware from the time. I've got Apple II systems that still function perfectly, CRT and all.

I think it depends on..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462915)

If Gene Roddenberrys p0rn has been erased or not....

mmm...Imagine the Klingongs............

Damn this earthling keyboard!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29462981)

minus the extra g

Re:Damn this earthling keyboard!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29463653)

more like klingdongs!

Macs retain their value (0)

Renderer of Evil (604742) | more than 5 years ago | (#29462945)

Here I have a Dell Vostro and it's probably worth 10% of its original sticker price.

Any bidders? It was sold to me by Dell.com and I was one of the first people who watched Star.Trek.CAM.XviD-DEViSE on it. I promise, it's a collectible.

Re:Macs retain their value (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29463111)

Well... Early Macs were innovative machines, design icons (hard and soft), and the first personal computer for /so/ many people, hence have value. But fast-forward to the "beige era" and watch the collectibility plummet to contemporary x86 values. I've kept my 7600 for kicks, just like I've kept one Pentium I, but it's no more valuable than the Quadra and pizzabox 6100 I sent to the dumpster. Even G3 iMacs would have a hard time getting 10% of original sticker. Your Vostro has plenty of company.

Re:Macs retain their value (1)

FlyingGuy (989135) | more than 5 years ago | (#29463181)

Hmmm I wonder what my original, in the box it was purchased in, IBM PC 8088 w/64K of ram, two 360k floppies, IBM green screen monitor ( also in the box it came in ) with all packing materials and documentation would be worth?

And it still boots ROM Basic! ( I took it out put it on the bench and fired it up :: Motivated by a /. article :: and the machine actualy booted!

Re:Macs retain their value (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#29463939)

Hmmm I wonder what my original, in the box it was purchased in, IBM PC 8088 w/64K of ram, two 360k floppies, IBM green screen monitor ( also in the box it came in ) with all packing materials and documentation would be worth?

And it still boots ROM Basic! ( I took it out put it on the bench and fired it up :: Motivated by a /. article :: and the machine actualy booted!

NASA might perhaps pays some money for a _working_ one since they need it to repair/operate the TrembleSat, EnvEye, LunarPorp, FairySat and Sol Invictus systems and 8088's are
quite rare.
US Army might need them too since all computer from 286 onwards are made in Asia and therefore unsuitable for Level 5 (red badge) classified data, but they should pay less since they can also use 8086's, C64's and VAXen.
Don't think other gov agency will buy since
rumors claim they make their own bug-safe computers from cardboard and strings.

1701? (1)

Amiralul (1164423) | more than 5 years ago | (#29463413)

#F4200NUM0001? How uninspired... I would have chosen #F4200NUM1701.

This is nothing. (2, Funny)

ATMD (986401) | more than 5 years ago | (#29464397)

Apple may have given Roddenberry a Mac, but in a decade or so they'll be celebrating Asimov's 100th birthday with their new media-streaming, music playing domestic assistant, the iRobot.

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