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What To Do With a Free Xbox 360 Pro?

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the donate-it-to-me dept.

XBox (Games) 416

OzPeter writes "Last week I won an Xbox 360 Pro. However, I am not a gamer, and after looking at the current MS offerings, I am not tempted to become one. But I am in the market for a Media Center PC that I can use for streaming TV shows off the 'net as well as general web browsing and displaying video through the HDMI port. With that in mind, I again looked at MS and saw they seemed to have positioned the Xbox as an adjunct to a separate Windows Media Center PC and not as a stand alone unit (which is not what I want). So, once again, I did some more research into the Xbox homebrew scene and discovered things like Xbox Linux. But after reading that site, it is apparent that MS is trying to beat down the homebrewers, and I am left wondering how much hassle it would be to go down that path. So my question is: how should I re-purpose my Xbox? Is it worthwhile doing the Homebrew/Linux option (and can anyone share any experiences)? Are there other ways of re-purposing the device that I haven't considered? Or should I just keep it boxed up as a Christmas present for a favorite nephew?"

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Why bother? (5, Insightful)

M0b1u5 (569472) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676823)

Why let yourself in for a world of hurt for a device which will likely never operate in the way you require.

Best to give it as a gift, or sell it on eBay and pocket the cash, and invest that in your stand alone box.

Frankly, I can't believe you are even contemplating it.

Re:Why bother? (3, Informative)

luther349 (645380) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676901)

its a hassle. i don't even bother with modding mine being it wasn't until a few weeks ago any homebrew was released for it and its very first modchip all still very early. 360 linux lacks alot good sound 3d support etc. being none really cared abought it until just recently. i would give it away if your not going to use it for gaming. for a media center your looking for i would go with a small form factor pc theirs plenty out there. it would be small enough to set anywhere like inside a entertainment center top that with a wireless keyboard/mouse and a dvi or hdmi cable to your tv and a stereo to rca cable and your good may not need he rca cable if the sound card has rca out. end game you got a full pc connected to your hdtv some hdtv actually just have a vga port so the dvi cable may also not be needed.

Keep in its box (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29677163)

Eventually every 360 that is actively used will RROD. After production stops, the 360 population will shrink rapidly. Once they become rare, sell your new in box Pro to some desperate M$ fanboi.

Re:Why bother? (1)

Velorium (1068080) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677203)

I agree. I would sell it and use the money to buy a media center pc. It's the best option if you're looking to get purpose out of it in this case.

Re:Why bother? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29677239)

better yet, simply sell the thing and invest a PS3. If you want a media center with upgradable storage, the ability to utilize external storage, blu-ray player, amazing gaming platform (even if you aren't interested), and everything else the PS3 does. Seriously, sell it and buy a PS3. You won't regret it.

Well, (2, Insightful)

Shadyman (939863) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676825)

I like the 'giveittome' tag.

Though, Xbox Linux is probably the way to go if you want that kind of thing.

Sell it (5, Informative)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676827)

Its worth less to you than somebody who would use it for gaming.

Re:Sell it (1)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677173)

Agreed. I'm a moderate gamer and have a mac mini and a 360 under my tv. The 360 can do some video streaming from XP computers with media player 11 or Vista boxes but it's a pain in the butt. There's products like tversity that can do transcoding but it's so much more hassle than it's worth it's not even funny.

The short answer: the 360 has the hardware to be a great media center but Microsoft does not want to allow the hardware freedom for that to happen. No custom boot loader, no unsigned code, nothing. Use a purpose-built box for your media center, you will be so much happier. The 360 is only good for games and console games at that. People into games that only really exist on the PC will scoff at the consoles.

Give it to me. (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29676833)

I'll make good use of it.

Frosty.

Give it away (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29676835)

Trust me, save yourself the hassle.

eBay it (or otherwise) (5, Insightful)

Macthorpe (960048) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676843)

Sell it as new and put the money towards something that's built for the purpose you want it for. Bit easier than spending hours messing about with it.

Re:eBay it (or otherwise) (-1, Flamebait)

100_Monkeys_Typing (662396) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676869)

Sell it as new and put the money towards something that's built for the purpose you want it for. Bit easier than staring into the red rings of death .

There, fixed that for you.

Re:eBay it (or otherwise) (4, Insightful)

Macthorpe (960048) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676967)

You're not really fixing anything, are you? What you wrote is at best orthoganal to the real point and adds nothing more than a bad attempt at trolling to the discussion.

Grade: D-
Notes: See me after class

(The sooner this fucking stupid 'LOL FIXED THAT FOR YOU' meme ends the better, sorry)

Re:eBay it (or otherwise) (1, Redundant)

Tynin (634655) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677101)

(The sooner this fucking stupid 'LOL FIXED THAT FOR YOU' meme ends the better, sorry)

I see you are new here... ;)

Re:eBay it (or otherwise) (1, Redundant)

Barny (103770) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677123)

Git offa mah lawn!

Re:eBay it (or otherwise) (1)

rayd75 (258138) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677037)

That is freakin' hilarious! See what he did there? He changed the original comment's entire meaning by altering only a few words... then he humorously passes it off as if he had done nothing more than correct a typo. Brilliant!

Favorite nephew (4, Insightful)

onyxruby (118189) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676845)

Offer it as a bribe, perhaps if he does well in school or the like. It sounds like you already have made up your mind about the product not meeting your needs. Certainly things like the linux project would be at best pure hack value, and not much for practical use. If you want to do that, find the right ps3 and relish in a vendor that doesn't actively fight alternate os's and lets you install Linux without all the hassle.

Re:Favorite nephew (3, Insightful)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676885)

find the right ps3 and relish in a vendor that doesn't actively fight alternate os's and lets you install Linux without all the hassle.

Last I heard, that premise is patently false or as I like to put it, complete fucking bullshit.

Sony does actively fight to prevent anyone from having complete control of the hardware they rightfully own. PSP is the perfect example of this.

When Sony allows you to install Linux AND have complete access to all the hardware, let me know, and I will agree with your statements. Right now, you can install Linux. Yes, that is true. Do you really have access to all the hardware though? Yeah.... you don't.

Sure you can borrow my car and mess with all the radio station presets. Tires? Well, of course not! Don't be silly. I'll keep those at home.

Re:Favorite nephew (2, Interesting)

snuf23 (182335) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677017)

It's worth noting that the PS3 Slim doesn't support Linux either. So if you want your relish you'd have to buy the older model.

Re:Favorite nephew (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677117)

as of Firmware 3.1, I can still install Linux on my big and bulky PS3.

Yes, Sony is fighting to prevent people to completely control their PSP and PS3, why? Online cheating, piracy, etc. It's not like they're keeping you out of the sacred land of home brew for really no good reason.

(it's working too, I'm thinking about either buying a spare PSP *just* for games that want FWs above 5.00(I haven't installed 5.50 GEN yet) or ditching CFW entirely. Gran Turismo Portable, you damned temptress.)

Re:Favorite nephew (4, Insightful)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677219)

really no good reason

It is not a good reason. It is not ethical, moral, legal, etc. Sony does not rent me a PSP or PS3, they sell me one. I have had these arguments before, and quite simply, it is corruption in our legal system that allows them to continue.

The DMCA is absolute fucking bullshit. I have the absolute unequivocal right to completely own my hardware. To use a car analogy on Slashdot, there have been cases similar to this with auto manufacturers. All of the cases had been decided in the favor of the consumer. So why is electronics any different? They brought copyright infringement into it.

Without the DMCA it would be absolutely legal for you to put whatever you wanted onto a PSP or PS3 and Sony would have absolutely no recourse at all. However, since they used those cock-sucking whores in Congress to create a law that states my perfectly moral and ethical enjoyment of my own property circumvents Sony's bullshit, that I am somehow a criminal.

Last time I checked we can still own guns in this country. Well, by Sony's logic, they can take away my guns since it could possibly be used for something bad. That logic does not work, and thankfully, has not worked yet to deprive me of my right to bear arms.

This fallacious logic that is being used to deprive citizens of their rights and properties has to be fought at all costs. It has to stop.

Let me put in another way. I brutally raped some young girl because I was horny. "It's not like I did not do it for really no good reason"

Penny Arcade Charity (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29676859)

Penny-arcade.com has a charity called "Child's Play" which provides hospitalized children with toys and electronic entertainment. If I were at a loss for what to do with a new video game console, that would be the way to go for me.

Congratulations on your good fortune.

Re:Penny Arcade Charity (1)

IDIIAMOTS (553790) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676973)

Seconded. Give it to a charity or give it away as a gift. If you're short on cash for media center, sell it on eBay and build/buy your favorite flavor of OS for media center box.

Re:Penny Arcade Charity (4, Interesting)

rm999 (775449) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676985)

Also, don't forget that the XBox is considered income and will be taxed as such. It could cost you up to 100 dollars to keep it or sell it (assuming you do your taxes honestly - I believe here in the US the IRS has been known to go after people who don't declare their prizes). So, if you sell it you only get 100-150 dollars - not too much.

If you give it to charity it is no longer income, and won't be taxed. I think this is the best way to go - the IRS can't tax karma ;)

Re:Penny Arcade Charity (5, Funny)

Mad Merlin (837387) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677205)

...the IRS can't tax karma

Yet. No doubt they're working on it.

Re:Penny Arcade Charity (1)

thisisaccount2 (1647273) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677207)

You bet your +3 "Informative" we can!

On a separate note, you owe us exactly .54 Mother Teresas of karma.

--The IRS

Re:Penny Arcade Charity (1)

Rycross (836649) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677217)

Keep in mind that if you open it you may not be able to donate to Child's Play, however. In the past, they've rejected offers for used games and game consoles, because the hospitals wanted to avoid possible infection via pre-used controllers and whatnot.

Jeez, you don't have to brag about it. (5, Funny)

tommut (123314) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676863)

In similar news I just won a million dollars, however I am not much of a consumer. Anyone know of any good ways to spend this cash?

Re:Jeez, you don't have to brag about it. (5, Funny)

thrillseeker (518224) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677001)

Anyone know of any good ways to spend this cash?

My thoughts intrigue you, and you wish to subscribe to my newsletter ...

Re:Jeez, you don't have to brag about it. (1)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677003)

Yes, have you considered donating the prize money to the human fund? I can take care of all of the paper work and hassle for you, if you just sign over the check.

Two chicks at one time man. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29677073)

Two chicks at one time...

How is this even a question? (1, Insightful)

djh101010 (656795) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676867)

If you don't want it and won't use it, sell it on eBay and move on. This isn't a complicated thing. For centuries, people have won random shiat they don't care about in lotteries. Sell the useful shiat, profit, live happy, and let whatever minor player who buys (thing you won) manage it. Sure, they might do better than you might have. Yet, say, 20 Million now, vs. 40 million if you guess right, well, I'm with the $20M right now crowd of thinking. You should see our datacenter. Holy crap, how could anyone do better?

Use it for casual gaming gift it, or sell it (4, Insightful)

syousef (465911) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676875)

Seriously, you're trying to use a proverbial hammer to saw a tree. An XBox 360 is the wrong tool for anything but gaming, which is what it was built for. Therefore trying to run Linux on it or do other cool stuff is a waste of the machine UNLESS you're into that cool stuff to start with and THAT is the game. Given that you're still wondering how to use it, the answer is simple. Use it for gaming. Or sell it and let someone use it for gaming. Or give it away and let someone use it for gaming. As a media center, there are better options - if you sell it put the money towards buying one. As a linux PC, an XBox isn't the best solution. Sell it and buy a nice Intel or AMD based machine.

The world's full of interesting geeky stuff to do. One of the least interesting things you can do is to waste time forcing a machine to do something it's not designed for. Especially since you'll be using it not writing the software to do it in the first place. Life's too short.

Re:Use it for casual gaming gift it, or sell it (2, Insightful)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676921)

One of the least interesting things you can do is to waste time forcing a machine to do something it's not designed for

Huh. Really?

I guess by that logic McGuyver was one of most boring shows on the fucking planet, and Mr. T from A-Team was the lest interesting man on television. I pity the foo.

Re:Use it for casual gaming gift it, or sell it (2, Interesting)

syousef (465911) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676963)

I guess by that logic McGuyver was one of most boring shows on the fucking planet, and Mr. T from A-Team was the lest interesting man on television. I pity the foo.

Knowing things about common household chemicals was very interesting, but when MacGyver started saving whales and diffusing nuclear weapons with duct tape I must admit I stopped watching. (Years later my wife and I, who both watched the show as kids, bought the episodes on DVD. For her its' more about remembering time spent watching with her grandmother though).

As for the A-Team it was interesting, but lets face it, the show was more about the wronged underdog rising up and beating the stuffing out of his oppressors. As such it was more about action than tinkering. The tinkering montage was just a theatrical device.

Re:Use it for casual gaming gift it, or sell it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29676935)

One of the least interesting things you can do is to waste time forcing a machine to do something it's not designed for

Yeh! like Bill Gates and his Altair 8000 or whatever... what a mumpett

Re:Use it for casual gaming gift it, or sell it (1)

mpoulton (689851) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677247)

The world's full of interesting geeky stuff to do. One of the least interesting things you can do is to waste time forcing a machine to do something it's not designed for.

And here I though that was the MOST interesting thing to do, and one of the most geeky. Guess I've been wasting all my free time! I should find a hobby that's actually interesting.

If you've got a big screen, sell it and get a PS3 (3, Insightful)

Lije Baley (88936) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676877)

HTPC/Media centers are a pain in the a$$ and streaming video is for kids with 22" screens and huge pipes. Get a PS3, it's not perfect but it's an excellent blu-ray player, will stream stuff, and you won't have to spend an hour fiddling with it every other time you use it. Use it with TVersity or the like for more flexibility on streaming. Or if you do have just a small screen, keep the 360 and stream all you want.

XBMC = Xbox Media Center (1)

Michael Wardle (50363) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676879)

Isn't that what XBMC [xbmc.org] is for?

Re:XBMC = Xbox Media Center (4, Informative)

snuf23 (182335) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676925)

XBMC was originally made for hacked classic Xboxes. It doesn't run on the Xbox 360. While it was great at the time, the old Xbox didn't support HD output which limits it's use these days.
XBMC has however been ported to run on Windows, Linux and Macintosh operating systems and does support HD output on these systems. This makes for a pretty good home theater PC setup and is more flexible than the built in stuff on Xbox 360.

Re:XBMC = Xbox Media Center (1)

softparade (736054) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677031)

What are people using to replace their xbox1 with xbmc? I am part of the people who love the simplicity and great features of xbox with xbmc but would like to be able to play HD

Re:XBMC = Xbox Media Center (1)

Albanach (527650) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677053)

Indeed. It sounds like he's in the market for XBMC and not an Xbox 360.

To make life really easy, he could see the xbox on ebay, the use the cash to buy an appleTV. The USB installer will have XBMC running in a flash, and, AIUI, the AppleTV is at least good for 720p.

Re:XBMC = Xbox Media Center (2, Informative)

marcansoft (727665) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676941)

That's for Xbox1 (and now Win/Mac/Linux), not the 360. The Xbox1 does make a great media center, but although some HD capability is claimed, it's damn near useless for anything above 480p. There are also legal issues with XBMC on an Xbox1 running natively (the native/original port is compiled with the Xbox SDK and therefore distributing or having binaries is copyright infringement). Running Linux on an Xbox1 is also pretty tight because it only has 64MB of RAM. I upgraded mine to 128MB and managed to get the MythTV frontend working very well, though.

Re:XBMC = Xbox Media Center (1)

StealthSock (634668) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676957)

XBMC still doesn't run on 360's though. I'd sell it and get a standalone media player such as a WD TV if you don't need network streaming or an Mvix Ultio if you do. Better yet, get a DVI to HDMI cable and watch stuff off your computer.

Hospital (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29676881)

Give it to a local children's hospital. Cheer up some kids that could use it.

Re:Hospital (1)

moon3 (1530265) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676919)

Good point. Mod parent up pls.

Re:Hospital (1)

Xin Jing (1587107) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677165)

Yes, I like this option the best. The ultimate re-purpose: as a free gift for others that could really use the entertainment value and take their minds off of reality for awhile.

RROD class action (1)

l00sr (266426) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676887)

Simple. Wait 'til it RROD's, hit up that class action suit, then... Profit!

Re:RROD class action (1)

arbiter1 (1204146) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676949)

you may get what 100$, only people that make out in those is the lawyer. rest of the ppl get chump change. sell it on ebay use money for a pc you can make in to a media center pc

Re:RROD class action (1)

hldn (1085833) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677113)

meh i got $350 from a microsoft class action suit in my state :D

Lets see... (4, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676895)

You can either A) Use it to play games and some media B) Sell it C) Donate it/give it away. I have no doubt that a local children's hospital would be eternally greatful for the gift. You could always donate it to some guy like Ben Heck (http://benheck.com/) to use in a mod to help a gamer with disabilities (or just to look pretty cool as a mod), or if worse comes to worse, keep it in its box and save it for a few years and sell it then in mint condition.

Store Credit (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29676905)

If you were dishonest you could "return" it to best buy or other store, say you lost your receipt and use the store credit towards what you want

Nut on it. PS: Fuck Obama. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29676907)

Fuck that empty-suit piece of shit. He's supposed to be the POTUS, not Chicago Mayor Daley's house nigger. "Yassah, yassah massah Daley! I go to Copenhagen fo' you! I go 'dis very day! Yassah!"

Get a REAL Media Center (0, Redundant)

panoptical2 (1344319) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676909)

Dude... If you really want to, sell the thing for something like $150 and put that money toward getting an actual media center PC if you really want it that much.

A modded Xbox is no good to anyone but yourself, and even so, you'll spend hours tinkering with it before it even remotely does what you want it to do. Also, if it does RROD, your out of luck getting it replaced if you mod it in any way.

Re:Get a REAL Media Center (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29676965)

A modded Xbox is no good to anyone but yourself, and even so, you'll spend hours tinkering with it before it even remotely does what you want it to do.

What? Does it run Linux? I never knew.

I say... (2, Interesting)

Fizzol (598030) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676913)

keep the xbox and use it as a media extender. I rarely game, almost never, but I use my 360 to play Netflix streaming movies, DVDs, and downloaded videos. It works great.

Re:I say... (1)

Fizzol (598030) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676937)

Sorry to reply to my own post, but I forgot another big plus. I can watch shows and movies recorded on my Media Center PC on the xbox, rather than sitting at my computer desk. I like that a lot.

Re:I say... dlna client (1)

wgc (927245) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676969)

Not just any media extender, but how about a dlna client? Get a network drive that serves dlna (many possibilities), then you just need to throw your pictures, video and music out on your network and you should be able to use the xbox to see/hear them through your entertainment center.

Supposedly this works: ever since I discovered my network drive serves dlna, I've been considering getting an xbox as a good, cheap dlna client, but I haven't actually tried this yet.

For those who want to run a media server: my network drive only draws 20 watts and serves most of the same features except for DVR functionality.

Re:I say... (2, Informative)

ender- (42944) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677069)

I'll second this. Look, maybe it's not as sexy as having a Linux based media hub or something, but I've been using my XBox 360 as an extender for a Vista MediaCenter PC and it works great. There's a ton of great games for it, and it still spends many hours a day acting as the prime interface for our living room media needs.

It's the Media Center Extender for a media PC [Vista] with Dual HDTV OTA tuners, I can stream Netflix directly [with XBox Live Gold], I can stream my XVID+AC3 movies with full surround from the media PC [using Media Player sharing]. If you really don't want to mess with a back-end media center PC, you can also just copy your XVID/DIVX/H.264 movies to a USB hard drive, and play them directly. I can play DVD and HD-DVDs. That's what's available natively.

On top of that, by paying $30 [one-time] for PlayON to run on the media center PC, I can browse and watch Hulu and Youtube and various other video sites [or Netflix if you don't want to pay for XBOX Live].

And if you do use a back-end media PC, I'm pretty sure you can use multiple XBox360s as front-ends to different rooms.

The only thing it can't do is play BluRay.

The PS3 can do most of that as well, plus play BluRay. It'll still need a back-end PC to do Hulu/Netflix and such. I'm not sure what the PS3's capabilities are with regards to acting as an extender for a back-end Tuner/DVR solution [maybe a MythTV front end? I dunno].

So it boils down to if you don't already have a BR player, and if you want to deal with selling the XBox, and paying the difference to get a PS3.

Re:I say... (1)

jdbausch (1419981) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677199)

3/4 of the way down a useful post comes along. mod ender up. the 360 works fine as a upnp client. I use FUPPES to stream photos, videos and music from my ubuntu box. It will also work with windows media center, and ORB.com. there are a lot of options... i also use the xbox 360 all the time for netflix streaming, and I keep a usb drive laying around to just plug and play media... I also have an old laptop laying around that streams hulu content using PlayOn (which would also do netflix, if I were not paying for xbox live gold anyway) And, if you look at just the big name games available at your local game store, you are missing out on the TONS of great xbox live arcade games. I probably spend more time playing those games than full blown releases. without any modding the 360 is a good way to get media to your screen. I'm actually thinking of getting another one for the bedroom, watching all this media on the laptop is getting old, since I have that damn tv just right there...

works (1)

unhooked (21010) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676917)

The 360 works fine for my purposes playing media streamed from my FreeBSD box. Not as pretty as the shares coming from the gaming machine using media player 11, but it works and I don't have to think about it. Ushare is the app used for sharing media and it is part of geexbox so I'm sure if you wanted more functionality it would work for you.

ebay (1, Insightful)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676931)

ebay

Your timing is perfect! (1, Funny)

BlackSabbath (118110) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676947)

Don't listen to any of these other twits banging on about charities this and Linux that.
I absolutely MUST have it to play Brutal Legend! [brutallegend.com] (due for release next week)

This is no coincidence...Fate demands you give it me.

Simple. (1)

pizza_milkshake (580452) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676951)

Blow it up.

Re:Simple. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29677029)

Exactly.. send it to Mythbusters and ask them to prove or disprove the myth that the Xbox 360 has no shrapnel when detonated with an internal detonator while in a microwave. :P

Re:Simple. (1)

awpoopy (1054584) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677209)

Blow it up.

...and put the video of blowing it up on youtube.

STFU (1)

dkone (457398) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676961)

How in the hell did this make it to the front page of Slashdot? Wait it is an attempt bash MS, so lets push it through. Oh my God, I can't believe the Xbox360 won't run Linux or do exactly what I want it to do. Get over it, it was not designed to be a general purpose device. MS made it to compete in the console arena not against the media center PC.

Wahhh I won a new car and it won't run the latest version of Debian... STFU and either sell your Xbox and buy something you can make work to your desire, give it away as a gift (which would make you the worlds coolest uncle) or buy some of the better Xbox games and enjoy it for what it is.

So..... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29676975)

Will it blend?

Popcorn Hour (2, Interesting)

Bl4ckJ3sus (1081165) | more than 4 years ago | (#29676979)

Sell it, and buy a popcorn hour. Simple. http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/ [popcornhour.com] With that said, I have a 360 and the netflix streaming is very very nice, but no substitute for a popcorn hour and torrents.

re: Media Center (3, Interesting)

transporter_ii (986545) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677011)

I have a friend who modded an Xbox to make it a media center and it is awesome. I went the PC route and made a central PC server and stream to my TVs with a d-link set top box.

Here is my experience. I used to get movies and watch movies. Boy, were those the days. Now I get movies, rip movies, convert movies to avi or mp4, and move huge files around (very slowly). The last drive I bought was a 1.5 terabyte, and I'm thinking about getting another one...because what else do you freaking back up a 1.5 terabyte drive to but another drive? And my UPnP server was on Linux, but the box was dual boot, so if someone was in windows, we couldn't watch streaming video...so I just built a new server to fix that issue.

When I finally get to sit down and actually watch a movie, it isn't uncommon for me to get up in the middle of it and kick off another DVD folder to be converted.

If I went over to my friend's house to actually play a game on his Xbox media center, we would probably have to wait an hour and a half to play something, because he would probably be FTPing a big movie to it at the time!

And hey, I just ordered a mod chip and picked up an Xbox so he could build me one. Why? I don't know. It's just cool.

Version (2, Interesting)

RiotingPacifist (1228016) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677013)

You need to know the version you get before seeing if it is hackable, chances are a new xbox will have a kernel > 4548. However if by some miracle you hack it, your best bet is to then install a minimal ubuntu/debian install with mythTV or something related as your GUI.

streaming to xbox360 (1)

Nasser (80677) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677015)

you could stream videos, music, youtube, internet radio, etc to your xbox360 (or any other DLNA client for that matter) with PS3mediaServer http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/

Xmas present for your enemy (1)

NSN A392-99-964-5927 (1559367) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677025)

Just do what you decided. Give it as a Christmas present. You really do not want all the hassle of an xbox or PS3 for that matter. The games are expensive and to stream media is easy. I say forget the technological emotional blackmail that gets you hooked into parting with far more money than you intended. This is the way these corporations work. Remember you always have a choice even though circumstances appear that you do not. Just psychological entrapment. Do not even get me started on illegal "info gathering" when you put it online. Give it to someone you hate.

Re:Xmas present for your enemy (1)

^_^x (178540) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677091)

I agree. I'm a gamer and would love a free one, but if you're just going to repurpose it, then you could cheaply have a more capable, quieter, less power-hungry media centre PC that you could do more things with. These days it's probably really not practical to mod it or use as-is for non-gaming activities unless you like Netflix.

It already does what you want (1)

McBeer (714119) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677027)

The Xbox 360 can stream tv/movies/music using a Zune pass [zune.net] , tv/movies using a Netflix [netflix.com] subscription, and it plays CDs/DVDs. You don't need to hack it at all.

Re:It already does what you want (1)

Tynin (634655) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677171)

The Xbox 360 can stream tv/movies/music using a Zune pass [zune.net] , tv/movies using a Netflix [netflix.com] subscription, and it plays CDs/DVDs. You don't need to hack it at all.

Don't you need an Xbox gold account (thus pay monthly to MS) in order to use Netflix? If I was using it to just stream media to my TV, I surely would not pay extra each month just to use my Netflix account.

Tversity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29677035)

I use a program called tversity to stream my shows from my TV, which seems to work much better than the native client built in. If you end up not wanting to keep it, I can't help but agree with those who recommended Penny-Arcade's Child's Play, or donating it to a local children's hospital.

Options for Video Accessing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29677039)

Everyone is forgetting some of the new features of the 360 as well as some of the original.....you either have a hard drive with it (I think you said a Pro so you should) plus there are 3rd party options for hooking up an external hard drive without hacking the device (limited space due to FAT32 restrictions on the formatting but still).

So, you can view your own media on the 360 via an external drive...plus the new interface offers a link to Netflix if you have an account for on-demand movie streaming...pick a movie, click a button and watch on your TV over HDMI.

Also, remember, the MS restriction isn't limiting like it was back in the XP days...there is no reason to have a PC dedicated to Media Center sharing so the 360 becomes an extender....Vista and Windows 7 both come with Media Center functions and allow you to connect a 360 as an extender....plus with Windows Media Player 11 you can access media - AVI/MPEG/WMP/MP3/etc - with minimal compatibility issues (some formats are not supported) withOUT using the Media Center functions of the PC or the 360.

I use the above, plus a free media sharing utility named TVersity to share movies, music, and pictures from my primary use PC multiple 360's. It's nice to have a centralized media storage unit accessible over wired and wireless networking.

That all being said, I am not the biggest fan of MS....if you really don't like the options available for accessing media on your 360 or use the gaming and other Live features, I'd suggest donating it. Yes, your nephew would love the unit but you would get market value as a donated item on your taxes at the end of the year if you donate it....plus there's the added self-benefit of making a kid whose family can't afford one extremely happy.
That all being said, I admit I

Obviously... (1)

FurtiveGlancer (1274746) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677047)

Makes a perfect, decorative paperweight for all your large scale designs to take over the world! Narff!

Why would you need to ask this question? (2, Insightful)

PotatoSan (1350933) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677049)

Is this really a situation that you can't figure out on your own? Are you even capable of dressing yourself without help? For that matter, how did this make the front page of Slashdot? Is this a common occurrence that perplexes a large portion of the readership? I eagerly await the day when I see the headline "Ask Slashdot: What Should I Have for Breakfast?"

What about the challenge? Or, try Free60. (1)

svtdragon (917476) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677055)

I think those who complain about how hard it is to do this underestimate the draw of a good challenge. I'm tempted to free mine, but I use it for gaming too much.

As to what to do with this one:
Step 1: Do not connect to XBOX Live
Step 2: Do not download Summer 09 update
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit!

In this case, Step 3 is "try Free60 [free60.org] ." And step 3.5 is "use XBOX360 as a Linux machine."

Re:What about the challenge? Or, try Free60. (1)

jonwil (467024) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677223)

If its a brand new 360, it will already have the latest not-yet-hackable firmware on it.

Jam it up your ass (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29677059)

Bring a whole new meaning to the "red ring of death".

If you have a boat... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29677063)

This might help you stay put.

If the 360's... (1)

Schnoogs (1087081) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677065)

lineup isn't tempting you to be gamer then you never have been one and never will be one.

Gift it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29677075)

prolly just give it as a gift because then u dont have to worry about buying one and youll have a bit more cash on ur holidays

Modern Warfare 2 (1)

IrritableBeing (1281212) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677079)

Will be the best game ever made. Keep it around until this game comes out and then make your decision.

giveittome! (1)

stpk4 (906462) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677085)

I'm pretty sure someone would have said this already but...why not trade it with someone (like me! =D) for a media PC =P

Guide a Missile!!! (1)

KYHopeful (1452945) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677087)

For something far outside the box, build a rocket [barnesandnoble.com] using your free 360!! Hack up the graphics processor for missile guidance [borrowing from the PS2 hype [bbc.co.uk] ]. And guide your missile with your controller... no really, there's precedent [engadget.com] . No, this project won't happen anytime soon. Yes, we all wish it would!

Hmm (1)

Dyinobal (1427207) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677089)

Perhaps you can find a hooker that would accept it as payment for some of her services.

Re:Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29677131)

And if not there's hordes of /.ers who'd offer you their black cherry for it.

Youtube viral video! (1)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677095)

Video it while you tee it up and whack it with a nine iron! Instant hit.

Or just dump it on eBay or Craigslist. Sheesh. I weep for our future.

Just Sell or Donate - so the next step is... (1)

thatkid_2002 (1529917) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677099)

Get rid of the XBox whatever way (the hardware is crap and barely lasts a year anyway) and use cash you get from it (if any) to build a Myth TV box.

A myth TV box seems to be what you want. This will cost you about $600USD (or AUD, we are pretty close now) and here is some basic steps:
1. Contemplate exactly what you want, just to be sure.
2. Go to $RESALER website (I hear theres this thing called New Egg in the USA) and look at some parts probably the $100 USD/piece range is fine.
3. Research the parts to make sure they play well with Ubuntu Linux (I'm no 'buntu fanboi, I use Fedora, but I digress)
4. Compare compatibility and reliability with others in the price range.
5. Order, and wait for parts to come.
6. Assemble.
7. Load Mythbuntu (I heard it is the best MythTV distro, but there is Mythdora as well)
8. Set up the box as best you can.
9. Use $YOUR-FAVOURITE-IMAGING-SOFTWARE to make an image of the Mythtv box. I really can't stress this enough.
10. Try not to fiddle with the settings as you will almost certainly break your setup.

Uhm, what a waste of brain power... (1)

FragInc (931710) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677107)

Get rid of it if you have no desire to use it for what it was intended nor any truly real desire to make it do something else. Quite the waste-of-time... there are far better things to discuss here on /. AFAIC.

Distrubted processing? (1)

oljanx (1318801) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677115)

I understand that networked GPUs have become increasingly valuable in distributed processing. I'm not aware of anything that can utilize a 360. Can anyone offer input on that?

Re:Distrubted processing? (1)

oljanx (1318801) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677121)

Also, spelling is for losers.

Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29677133)

I am failing to see what all the crap about it doesn't work or it won't do what you want. It works just fine with a Media Centre PC. Whether it be XP MCE or MCE through Vista. You can stream live TV. Use your MCE PC as a PVR. You can access your music library and play it through your home theatre system. View photos. Stream AVI from your PC or USB Flash drive. It's an upconverting DVD player. I have a 360 in my living room and can access 3 different PC's in my house and watch, listen and do whatever I want on my big screen LCD 1080p TV. You can rent videos through NetFlix. Like I said I'm failing to see what the issues are from the above posts. Sorry, it won't jerk you off or cook you breakfast in the morning. However, I doubt the big dumb penguin (Linux) will either. Keep it as it will do what you need less surfing the web and you will be buying the MCE PC anyhow. I don't suggest surfing the web anyhow from the couch in your living room. To keep the resolution decent...you'll be squinting to read the screen. Get a couple classic games and give your nephew a reason to come and visit.

LMC

Does it Blend? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29677155)

- "Surely you jest" "I'm not joking... and DON'T call me Shirley"

Send a message (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29677175)

Ship it back to Microsoft.

Back in the day. (1)

that this is not und (1026860) | more than 4 years ago | (#29677221)

Back in the day, I could run NetBSD on a Powerbook 165 if I wanted. The only issues would be that there wasn't keyboard or display support for the laptop. It was reported to work okay over a serial console.

Using an Xbox 360 for Linux seems like just an updated version of the same thing.

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