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First European Commander of the ISS

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the shift-of-power dept.

NASA 190

RobGoldsmith writes 'ESA astronaut Frank De Winne became the first European commander of the International Space Station this morning with the departure of Russian cosmonaut Gennady Padalka who had filled this role since April. De Winne is the first non-American and non-Russian to take on this role. Watch the videos and view images here.'

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Let me be the first... (2, Funny)

los furtive (232491) | more than 4 years ago | (#29713991)

...to welcome our European overlords.

Re:Let me be the first... (2, Funny)

noundi (1044080) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714209)

...to welcome our European overlords.

Thank you. Now Europeans!

Vorwärts!
En avant!
Adelante!
Avanti!
Eteenpäin!

And to the rest of you: onward!

Re:Let me be the first... (3, Informative)

buchner.johannes (1139593) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714841)

There are 23 official languages in the EU. And many more in Europe [wikipedia.org] . They'll be offended if you exclude them ;-)

Re:Let me be the first... (4, Insightful)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 4 years ago | (#29715073)

He's probably OK. Generally, it only seems to be the French that get offended when it comes to language.

Re:Let me be the first... (2, Interesting)

NaughtyNimitz (763264) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716217)

As an IT Trainer for the E.C. you are actually very right! I recently gave a course in HTML5 in English, but also translated ad hoc into French the non technical matter (all terminology is a bit in English). Afterwards i got some angry comments from French-speaking trainees (France, Belgium, but not the Luxemburg-guy) that i did not translate HTML-terminology ranging from "tables" to "Document Object Model" into French. The friggin' thing is in friggin' English for f's sake! (I am a native dutch-speaking Belgian fluent in German, English and French. So don't give me that xenolinguafobic response...)

...and Russian is one of them (2, Informative)

Roger W Moore (538166) | more than 4 years ago | (#29715397)

There are 23 official languages in the EU. And many more in Europe [wikipedia.org].

Interestingly the article lists Russian as one of those European languages so either this should be the second European commander or the first commander from the EU.

Re:...and Russian is one of them (1)

IrquiM (471313) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716545)

Actually - it's probably the first ESA commander.

Re:Let me be the first... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29716273)

There are 23 official languages in the EU.

AND THE DUTCH SPEAK ALL OF THEM.

But they are the only ones.

Re:Let me be the first... (1)

HNS-I (1119771) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716539)

Your comment makes no sense to me. I am from Holland and sure people with higher education mostly know 3 or 4 languages. But our country a a whole isn't that multi or even bilingual. Many people assume they know German because they are Dutch. They think they can translate a word to German by adding an umlaut to it. When they open their mouths it makes you cringe. Even English is very poor most of the time, I mean sure you can talk chrome-teeth-outback-state slang like ying yang, but you don't speak English.

Although I think my English is not bad, I'm sometimes embarrassed how much effort it takes met to string a full sentence together, even though every single textbook I own is in English. Speaking a different language is hard.

Re:Let me be the first... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29716337)

If you want to include the language Frank De Winne speaks natively: Voorwaards! (that's dutch, but he's Belgian)

Re:Let me be the first... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29714517)

Ah! European!

How Enlightened!

*snicker*

Russia... (5, Insightful)

AJWM (19027) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714007)

isn't part of Europe?

Re:Russia... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29714035)

Most of it is in Asia

Re:Russia... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29714087)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennady_Padalka [wikipedia.org]

But he's from the almost the furthest west bit (due south of Moscow)

Re:Russia... (2, Informative)

TheGreenNuke (1612943) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714127)

But most of the population is in Europe.

Re:Russia... (1)

NoYob (1630681) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714525)

But most of its natural resources are in Asia.

Re:Russia... (1)

Trepidity (597) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714741)

Its launches are all in Asia too.

Although, the European Space Agency's launches are all in South America...

Re:Russia... (3, Informative)

Moldiver (1343577) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714771)

Yes, on the continent of South America but *in* the EU. French Guiana is part of France and therefore part of the EU.

Re:Russia... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29714129)

Russia is the largest European nation. Quite embarrassing, come to think of it.

Re:Russia... (1)

unbug (1188963) | more than 4 years ago | (#29715715)

OTOH, it contains about 40% of Europe [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Russia... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29714083)

Historically, it's a province of Mongolia [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Russia... (2, Informative)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716191)

By that logic, so is China, India, pretty much the whole Middle East, Turkey, Georgia, Armenia and so on.

Re:Russia... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29716623)

I for one welcome the return of our Mongol overlords.

Re:Russia... (4, Interesting)

Bureaucromancer (1303477) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714137)

More to the point, it's not part of the European Union, and as such has it's own space program. As such De Winn is the first form the European Space Agency, which imo makes calling him the first European within reason. Keep in mind that geographically the Asia/Europe division is pretty much arbitrary anyway.

Re:Russia... (4, Interesting)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714611)

Frank De Winne of the EU is the first "European" commander (and all the Russian commanders don't count) in the same sense that people from the United States are "Americans" while people from Canada, Panama, Chile, etc. are not. It's not geographically accurate, but it's culturally/politically meaningful.

ESA NOT EU (4, Informative)

andersh (229403) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714619)

The ESA is not a part of the European Union and includes member nations outside of the EU and even Europe! Norway and Switzerland are members of ESA but not the EU. And Canada is a member but is not a European country!

The European Space Agency (ESA), established in 1975, is an intergovernmental organisation dedicated to the exploration of space, currently with 18 member states.

Re:ESA NOT EU (2, Insightful)

Bureaucromancer (1303477) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714671)

Technically true, but for most purposes it's reasonable to describe it as the EU's space program.

Re:ESA NOT EU (1)

Moldiver (1343577) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714749)

Technically Canada could be considered part of the EU - As part of the CommonWealth it's very british ;)

Re:ESA NOT EU (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29716475)

Not really. Norway and Switzerland are much closer to being part of the EU, since they apply large swathes of EU legislation due to bilateral treaties. The EU is essentially a huge bureaucracy. Can you name any sort of power that the EU bureaucracy would have in Canada?

Depends on who you are. (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29714551)

If you are from Western, Northern, or even Southern Europe who remembers USSR, then Russia is from Asia. OTH, if you are from one of these regions, hate America, hate your country, and hate yourself, then Russia and China are European. In fact, so are Cuba, Venezuela, Al Qaeda occupied Afghanistan, Burma, Iran, etc.

Re:Russia... (1)

fake_name (245088) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714813)

Technically Russia is part of Asia.

Re:Russia... (1)

osu-neko (2604) | more than 4 years ago | (#29715703)

Technically, you're wrong. Part of Russia is part of Asia. The mostly unpopulated part. Part of Russia is part of Europe. The part where most of the Russians actually live.

Re:Russia... (1)

michaelmalak (91262) | more than 4 years ago | (#29715271)

The answer is contained in footnote 16 [wikipedia.org] of the Wikipedia entry for Europe:

The map [showing Russia in Europe] shows one of the most commonly accepted delineations of the geographical boundaries of Europe, as used by National Geographic and Encyclopedia Britannica. Whether countries are considered in Europe or Asia can vary in sources, for example in the classification of the CIA World Factbook or that of the BBC.

In a nutshell: geographically, Russia is in Europe as it is west of the Urals. Politically, it is in Asia.

It reminds me of how Europeans consider Mexico to be in South America. That makes even less sense given the existence of NAFTA.

We rule the ISS and IOC now :-) (4, Funny)

wimg (300673) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714041)

A Belgian is now commander of the ISS and president of the IOC... and next year probably chairman of the UN Security Council :-)

Re:We rule the ISS and IOC now :-) (1)

mce (509) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714067)

Amazing what a single Belgian can do, isn't it...

Re:We rule the ISS and IOC now :-) (1)

wimg (300673) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714071)

Ah it's just teleportation :p

Re:We rule the ISS and IOC now :-) (1)

WoRLoKKeD (1142351) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714709)

The right mannnn...in the wrong...plaaaace can make all...the differennnnce in...the world...

Re:We rule the ISS and IOC now :-) (1)

sconeu (64226) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714811)

Ah crap. Now this guy and his 15 year old love slave will raise the ISS to be evil!!!

Not much fun (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29714045)

"Crewman, engage impulse drive!"
"Captain, we have no engines. Our boosters would burn out in two minutes."
"Do you mean we're a sitting duck? Scan the vicinity for hostiles."
"Captain, we have no scanners and no windows."
"Curse this shed..."
"Captain, the toilets are jammed again."

Slow news day? (-1, Redundant)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714093)

Slow news day today?

And here I thought Russia was a european country (0, Troll)

gozu (541069) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714151)

What's with all the discrimination against easter european nations? They're just as european as the rest of them. Hell, poland is even part of the E.U nowadays. Is russia supposed to be in asia or something?

DAMN YOU AND YOUR OFFENSIVE STORIES!

Re:And here I thought Russia was a european countr (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29714195)

What's with all the discrimination against easter european nations? They're just as european as the rest of them. Hell, poland is even part of the E.U nowadays. Is russia supposed to be in asia or something?

DAMN YOU AND YOUR OFFENSIVE STORIES!

But -- isn't slashdot an American site?

Re:And here I thought Russia was a european countr (1)

iammani (1392285) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714221)

Mmm, but with all the 'in soviet russia' jokes, i thought it was in russia.

Re:And here I thought Russia was a european countr (1)

GumphMaster (772693) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714393)

But -- isn't slashdot an American site?

Owned and hosted by US companies, sure. American site? Only insofar are there are any boundaries on this new-fangled interweb thingo, which is to say, it isn't. You want a US-only site, stop serving to the world (precisely what ./ers tell Murdoch to do with Google), and while you're at it, stop using news from the rest of the world.

Re:And here I thought Russia was a european countr (1)

rtb61 (674572) | more than 4 years ago | (#29715259)

Some Americans are really wound up, originally the domain addressing without a country of origin ie .com versus , com.us were and are specifically defined as international. It is only after the republicans wanted to take over the international domains and portray themselves as the imperialistic world government enforcing it's rule, the rule of violent force using it's global military ie. a massive self driven ego trip. In fact to this day if you add .us on any American government web address it points nowhere a real sign that ego trip of a handful of imperialistic individuals controlling the whole world is still alive and strong. Expect this to remain a permanent point of contention and be the likely driver for breaking up international domain name control, to localised mirroring.

Re:And here I thought Russia was a european countr (1)

lordandmaker (960504) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716767)

It's definitely of an american bent.

For example, the 'politics' banner is the stars and stripes, US-specific things generally aren't country-denoted, but foreign things are.

I'm not meaning to complain in the slightest, I'm just saying that to a non-american, this site is pretty american.

Even Russians have a mixed view of Europe (1, Interesting)

tjstork (137384) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714549)

Offensive? I'd think a lot of Russians would be insulted if you said they were European. There's a long and mixed tradition of Russia wanting to be a part of Europe and wanting to be something else. On one hand, you have Peter the Great, and subsequent czars, who thought Europe was the cats meow. Then, on the other hand, there's plenty of people that worked for the czar, that thought speaking french in court was a bunch of crap and that europeans sucked anyway. As it is, I think the Russians would prefer to not be thought of us Europeans, but as their equal to them. Russians are just Russians.

Re:Even Russians have a mixed view of Europe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29714739)

Yeah, I mean, Europeans are buncha pansies. We just changed our prez, who pretended to be nice to these Euros, and they are all, like, OMG, let's give him the Nobel prize, ain't he nice? Buncha girls, man.

Re:Even Russians have a mixed view of Europe (1)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 4 years ago | (#29715205)

I remember your posts, and I think you're a right-wing nutjob. ;-)

But I agree, we don't like Russia, but we respect Russia. Some of us like Europe, but we definitely don't respect Europe.

Re:And here I thought Russia was a european countr (1)

oasisweb (924178) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716057)

Is russia supposed to be in asia or something?

DAMN YOU AND YOUR OFFENSIVE STORIES!

Offensive? How so?

I find far more offensive your insinuation that being considered part of Asia would be offensive.

Re:And here I thought Russia was a european countr (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29716195)

You know, it's Poland not poland.
Again, you forgot Poland!

Re:And here I thought Russia was a european countr (1)

sw155kn1f3 (600118) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716281)

geographically russia is both in europe and asia

Commander of what precisely? (4, Interesting)

icebike (68054) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714185)

What does being commander entail?

In an emergency I suppose someone would be responsible for barking orders.

But realistically everyone up there, (now that the Cirque du Soleil clown is gone) are professionals and scientific types, and virtually all work schedules are managed by ground support teams.

Commanders in such a working environment generally are cajolers rather than of commanders anyway, but with the working environment I can't see them having much real need of a commander on a day to day basis, other than to lobby ground controllers for workload changes, or more snacks in the next cargo ship.

I suppose if they are still bickering over who gets to use which toilet they might have selected the Euro guy to take the edge off the situation.

Re:Commander of what precisely? (0, Troll)

sharkey (16670) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714261)

What does being commander entail?

Deciding who wears the crotchless lederhosen, who gets to be on top, etc.

seriously... (5, Insightful)

voss (52565) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714891)

Something happens on the space station and for some reason the station cant communicate with earth...whos in charge?

The station commander.

In an emergency he would make certain decisions such abandon the station or stay put.

While ground controllers can give direction, you always want to have someone on site who can actually
  act on those directions and tell people what to do. A station commander is not for things you expect, its for the things
you dont expect.

Re:seriously... (0)

icebike (68054) | more than 4 years ago | (#29715879)

You make it sound like the rest of them are a bunch of enlisted men, with no brains, no training, no discipline.

Feeling Left Out (4, Funny)

hedgemage (934558) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714191)

A major gripe in the Russian psyche is that they are 'left out' of Europe despite the fact that the majority of their population is in what is geographically defined as Europe. Way to go and snub them.

Re:Feeling Left Out (1)

DangerFace (1315417) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714417)

And a major gripe in the European psyche is that we keep invading them and they never let us win!

That's just bad form, old chap, bad form.

Re:Feeling Left Out (0, Flamebait)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714421)

I haven't met a single european who would consider russians european, they're slavs. Sort of *almost* european, but not quite. I think if we consider Americans our cousins, Russians would be second cousins.

Russia Is Clearly European (4, Insightful)

andersh (229403) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714567)

Have you even been to Europe? Of course we consider Russians Europeans! There is no doubt about that! People from the Soviet Republics however are a different matter, and even within the present Russian Federation there are many ethnic peoples!

We sometimes make the distinction because they are so large and have gone through a tough time lately (from Soviet times to Putin). Imperial Russia was at the heart of Europe, and only the Soviet era changed that. St Petersburg was the crown of Russias European identity!

Slavs are Europeans no matter what country in Europe they come from. Slavs are not limited to Russia you know, from Serbia to Russia Eastern Europe is full of Slavic people(s).

I'm a European, specifically a Scandinavian, and we absolutely see Russians as Europeans.

Re:Russia Is Clearly European (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29715153)

I'm a European, specifically a Scandinavian, and we absolutely see Russians as Europeans.

I've spoken to Europeans who matter, mainly from Germany, France, Spain, and Italy.. and no, they generally don't consider Russia to be part of Europe.

Now go back to your little toy country and either shut up or start a war with another toy country, preferably Belgium.

Re:Russia Is Clearly European (1)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716251)

Well, a right wing nutjob has normally got a very limited circle of acquaintances - other right wing nutjobs. So it wonders not that they think the same.

Re:Russia Is Clearly European (2, Funny)

misexistentialist (1537887) | more than 4 years ago | (#29715237)

Since here in the USA we think of you as part of North America, Russians, who are Europeans by virtue of royal kinship with Scandinavia, must actually be American European Slavic Asians.

Two Different Ethnic Groups (2, Informative)

andersh (229403) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716387)

Russians are NOT related to us Scandinavians in ANY way. Russians are Slavs, Scandinavians are Germanic people(s).

I doubt you Americans think of Scandinavia as part of North America? Did you not understand I was a non-Russian, Scandinavian? It says so clearly at the end of my message.

The last Czar did indeed have some Danish blood, that does not make the country, people or history Scandinavian. Unless you think the US is now part of Kenya due to Obama?

Re:Two Different Ethnic Groups (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29716435)

Rus was the proto-russian name for scandinavian immigrants. Like with the Franks in France the local culture won and took over the name of the immigrants, but the royal line of Czars was closely intermarriaged with the danish kings.

Re:Two Different Ethnic Groups (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29716557)

You should look up Kievan Rus [wikipedia.org] some time - you would find out that Scandinavians and Russians are definitely related.

Re:Two Different Ethnic Groups (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29716715)

Yes, yes and yes.

First off, yes, Russians are Europeans too. Especially the Slavs.

Second, that piece about royal kinship. Royal princesses and princes got married all across Europe. That does imply some influence, but I too wouldn't say it's been all that influential. I mean, hell, their kids would become Russians or English or French or whatever, anyway, right?

Third, and this isn't an argument, it's more of a stray thought I had: genetically, Russians aren't related to Scandinavians (generally anyway), but that's not entirely the case with us Finno-Ugrics: they are Slavs, yes. That's what most Russians regard themselves to be, I'm told by some of the Russian exchange students I've met, but there are Finno-Ugric people all over Russia, and some of them have mingled with the Russians until they're no longer, well, Komi or Mordva or whatever. But then again, I'm only interested in this because I live in a country whose history IS tied to Sweden and Russia very snugly...

PS.

Ironically there is a controversial bit in Russian history -- about how they came to be called Russians. Supposedly the name comes from the Kievan Rus, badass Varangians who had a sizable chunk of northwestern bits of Russian under their control. I'm not entirely sure what happened to them after that (it's been years since I read about it first), but Wikipedia at least suggests that they became modern Ukrainians and Belarusians, who are not genetically related as closely to them.

Re:Russia Is Clearly European (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29716127)

I'm a European, specifically a Scandinavian, and we absolutely see Russians as Europeans.

Fuck you.
I'm also Scandinavian.
Specifically Swedish.

I don't consider Russians to be Europeans, nor do the Russians I've talked to.

Don't pretend you speak for everyone.

Flaming Troll From "Sweden" (1)

andersh (229403) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716397)

I highly doubt you are "Swedish". Russians have always been Europeans. You sound too stupid to be Swedish, and you would know better. Go away, troll!

Re:Flaming Troll From "Sweden" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29716801)

Really?
Gullmarsplan, Stockholm.
The only one stupid here is you, since you seem to think you speak for everyone.
I said *I don't consider*. You say *we absolutely see*.

Russia is in a unique situation due to covering large parts of Asia.
Culturally, the russkis are very different from Western Europe.

They still have a bit in common with Eastern Europeans, but all in all we're talking about the largest country on earth.
Russia is larger than Europe.

I guess you're one of the idiots who'd call Mexico "American" (since, after all, it's in North America).

So, to repeat myself:
Fuck you.

Re:Feeling Left Out (0)

roguetrick (1147853) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714601)

Sounds like Americans taking the name of two continents for themselves, western Europeans are taking all of Europe for themselves.

Re:Feeling Left Out (1)

glwtta (532858) | more than 4 years ago | (#29715809)

I haven't met a single european who would consider russians european, they're slavs.

What the hell are you talking about? All Slavic countries are in Europe, as are most of the Russian Slavs; most of the people living in the Asian part of Russia are, obviously, not Slavic.

I know it's shocking, but "Central Europe" and "Eastern Europe" are part of "Europe".

Re:Feeling Left Out (1)

Sheltem The Guardian (940038) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716151)

Not exactly; most of the people in Asian part of Russia are slavs too. That's because asian part didn't have any considerable native population before it was settled by russians and ukrainians in 18-19 centuries, and soviet times added even more of the same. There are quite a few minorities in Asian part, but they are minor. Compare with e.g. russian caucasus which consists mainly of non-slavs.

Russian Identity (3, Funny)

andersh (229403) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714591)

There is an old Russian joke that goes like this:

A guy dies and ends up in hell. Before his punishment is due, he's shown around to know what is awaiting for him. At one moment, he and his demonic guide pass by three large foul-smelling pits full of dung.

One pit is bustling with activity - people climb out there every minute or so in large groups, and there are several demons with pitchforks running around the pit pushing the climbers down. The demons are sweaty and obviously tired.
The second pit is mostly quiet, but occasionally a single guy pokes his head outside, and immediately gets pushed down by a young lone demon, who is otherwise standing there yawning.
The third pit is absolutely quiet. There is a very old demon with chipped horns lying near the edge snoring and cuddling his pitchfork in the sleep. However, no-one climbs out of the pit.

The guy looks at all this for some time, and then asks what it is all about. His guide explains:

"The first pit is for Jews. They always stick together and help each other, and as soon as one climbs one step above the others, he stops and helps them get up to his level.
The second pit is for Europeans. They're hardworking, but individualist and way too proud of themselves, so they all climb alone, each on his own.
The third pit is for Russians. As soon as one of them climbs even a little bit higher than the rest, those below him pull him down by the legs into the dung so that he knows his place."

Re:Russian Identity (0, Troll)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714703)

I take it they are all trying to get to America?

More importantly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29714245)

When does the last American leave?
The sooner the better!

Re:More importantly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29715051)

Yep, me and some of my buddies were over at your mom's house last night. You know, fucking her like we do every Saturday. And damn if that isn't what your sorry ass dad said between sucking our semen out of her loose stinky pussy. I'm thinking we wore out our welcome.

Is this pronounced ... (1)

devloop (983641) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714269)

Frank Ze Weenie ?

Is think some kind of weird German joke ???

Re:Is this pronounced ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29714295)

Actually, it'd be pronounced Frank Dah Winnah, not quite Batman Bin Suparman but not bad....

Re:Is this pronounced ... (1)

wimg (300673) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714403)

Yup, Frank The Winner :-)

American Show (1)

ZeroExistenZ (721849) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714323)

I wonder why the Americans tried to steal the show in the ceremony?

Re:American Show (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29714369)

probably the same reason that they've had to defend half of europe for the past 60+ years.

Re:American Show (1)

wimg (300673) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714411)

Uh ? Where have you been living ? Pluto ?

Re:American Show (1)

NoYob (1630681) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714535)

What the hell does Mickey Mouse's dog have to do with it?

Re:American Show (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29714687)

real insightful rebuke. you're a worthless slashtard.

European Commander? (2, Funny)

Fear the Clam (230933) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714335)

Isn't thata great? He is full of De Winne!

Does this mean (1)

reboot246 (623534) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714359)

we could see a Captain Jean-Luc Picard within a few years?

Re:Does this mean (1)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714647)

Yes, but he'd have to be English.

Civil Engineer (2, Funny)

NoYob (1630681) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714559)

He received a Masters degree in telecommunications and civil engineering from the Royal Military Academy, Brussels, in 1984.

I have this image of him building the rest of the station with concrete. The slump test may not work so well in orbit.

His bio (3, Informative)

NoYob (1630681) | more than 4 years ago | (#29714571)

Bio here [esa.int]

I didn't check my tags above. Oh well. It's past my bed time....

Re:Civil Engineer (2, Informative)

Seth024 (1241160) | more than 4 years ago | (#29715949)

In Belgium, the civil engineering degree isn't what you think it is. It's more a general engineering degree with everyone choosing a specific major (chemical engineering, computer science, applied physics, elektro-mechanical engineering and "bouwkunde": the actual civil engineer...) His degree would be the equivalent of "Master of Science in Engineering: Telecommunications"

Re:Civil Engineer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29716489)

With that remark that FDW got his degree at the KMS, the royal military school.

Re:Civil Engineer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29716349)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_engineer#Belgium :

"In Belgium, Civil Engineer (abbreviated Ir) (French: Ingénieur Civil, Dutch: Burgerlijk Ingenieur) is a legally protected title applicable to graduates of the five-year engineering course of one of the six universities and the Royal Military Academy. Their speciality can be all fields of engineering: civil, structural, electrical, mechanical, chemical. This use of the title may cause confusion to the English speaker as the Belgian "civil" engineer can have a speciality other than civil engineering. In fact, Belgians use the adjective "civil" as an opposition to military engineers."

No (1)

hachete (473378) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716199)

He's the second Belgian in space since Tin-TIn

Re:No (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29716481)

He's the second Belgian in space since Tin-TIn

Third actually, Dirk Frimout was the second.

Capitalization (2, Informative)

dingen (958134) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716279)

His name is Frank de Winne, without the capital D. The D is only capitalized when his first name isn't written. So it's commander De Winne, or commander Frank de Winne.

Then again, I guess it's already impressive you guys put a space between "de" and "Winne".

Re:Capitalization (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29716695)

His name is Frank de Winne, without the capital D.

You clearly are from the Netherlands. Frank De Winne is Belgian and his name is with a capital D.

Re:Capitalization (1)

dingen (958134) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716707)

Seriously? In Belgium they capitalize every first character in a name?

Well if that is true I sincerely apologize.

I guess it is true you learn something every day.

"European" (1)

kieran (20691) | more than 4 years ago | (#29716717)

After reading the summary and all the comments, I still had to check Wikipedia to find out which part of Europe this dude is actually from (Belgium).

You guys know Europe is a continent and not a country, right?

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