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Kaspersky CEO Wants End To Online Anonymity

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the but-my-computer-is-already-broadcasting-an-ip-address dept.

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Andorin writes "Eugene Kaspersky, CEO of well-known computer security company Kaspersky Labs, is calling for an end to the anonymity of the Internet, and for the creation of mandatory 'Internet passports' for anyone who wishes to browse the Web. Says Kaspersky, 'Everyone should and must have an identification, or internet passport ... the internet was designed not for public use, but for American scientists and the US military. Then it was introduced to the public, and it was wrong ... to introduce it in the same way.' He calls anonymity 'the Internet's biggest security vulnerability' and thinks any country that doesn't follow this regime should be 'cut off.' The EFF objects, and it's likely that they won't be the only ones."

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"Papers Please" (5, Insightful)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 4 years ago | (#29776951)

Yes, because requiring passports to entry countries stops all terrorism and crime.

Re:"Papers Please" (5, Informative)

jcr (53032) | more than 4 years ago | (#29776967)

Yes, because requiring passports to entry countries stops all terrorism and crime.

That's the asinine thing about the ID fetish that all the apparatchiki are pushing. The 9/11 perps weren't using fake IDs, even. They had genuine passports and credit cards.

-jcr

Re:"Papers Please" (-1)

hacker (14635) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777271)

That's the asinine thing about the ID fetish that all the apparatchiki are pushing. The 9/11 perps weren't using fake IDs, even. They had genuine passports and credit cards.

Including the fact that after the entire plane, fuselage, wings and passengers completely vaporized in the 9/11 event, the undamaged, unburned passports of those terrorists were found cleanly on the ground below, in the rubble of the aftermath.

Yes, they may have used legitimate passports, but... were they actually dropped by those people?

Re:"Papers Please" (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777301)

They were scanned and recorded at the airport before launch.

Re:"Papers Please" (3, Informative)

fyrewulff (702920) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777361)

They were not vaporized. Clearly you didn't see the pictures submitted as evidence at the trials. (I wouldn't recommend looking at them, either)

Re:"Papers Please" (5, Insightful)

Smegly (1607157) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777085)

Yes, because requiring passports to entry countries stops all terrorism and crime.

Exactly. But then creating a fear based "papers please" society [wikipedia.org] was never about stopping crime or terrorism to begin with, anyway. Thats just a convenient for voters to believe so various profitable charades [wikipedia.org] can continue [wikipedia.org] and profits continue [wikipedia.org] to flow in...

Re:"Papers Please" (-1, Flamebait)

tkinnun0 (756022) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777305)

No it doesn't, so there's no reason NOT to require passports (aside from the slight inconvenience).

Re:"Papers Please" (2, Insightful)

andymadigan (792996) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777349)

On the internet, there's plenty of reason to preserve anonymity and free speech. You can't kill someone over the internet, and real criminals will always find ways around a "passport" system, they already find ways around other kinds of security.

It is never all or nothing. (1)

westlake (615356) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777369)

Yes, because requiring passports to entry countries stops all terrorism and crime.

It is never all or nothing.

Which is why the geek tends to lose more in the political arena then he wins.

If he doesn't like anonymity... (5, Insightful)

jcr (53032) | more than 4 years ago | (#29776955)

Then he can just start his own network and only let people use it if they identify themselves.

-jcr

Re:If he doesn't like anonymity... (4, Funny)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777017)

You mean he's going to make his own network without blackjack and hookers?

Ps: Eugene Kaspersky murders and eats cats.

Re:If he doesn't like anonymity... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777023)

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Eugene-Kaspersky/26270793749?v=wall [facebook.com]

Here's his failbook page if anyone wants to harass him.
I'm posting this anonymously because I can and this is the way the internet should be.

Re:If he doesn't like anonymity... (2, Interesting)

Ironsides (739422) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777295)

And if you think you're actually anonymous, you're an idiot. Slashdot logs the IPs. Your ISP logs who has what IP. You can be traced if someone wants to find you.

Re:If he doesn't like anonymity... (5, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777173)

Mod this up. If you think anonymity is a bad thing then create VPN on top of the Internet, with certificates required to connect, and reject any traffic that doesn't come over this VPN. Only make your services available over this VPN, and not over the public portion of the Internet. Come back in a year and tell us what proportion of Internet users are connected to your system; if it's more than 1% I shall be very impressed.

Re:If he doesn't like anonymity... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777197)

It does not sound like a bad idea for commerce.

Re:If he doesn't like anonymity... (1)

tkinnun0 (756022) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777353)

I don't get your point. That sounds just like required registration on most websites nowadays.

Re:If he doesn't like anonymity... (4, Insightful)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777421)

I don't get your point. That sounds just like required registration on most websites nowadays.

Like Slashdot? I'm guessing tkinnun0 isn't your real name, and pharmboy isn't mine. With proxy servers and/or anonymous email, it is trivial to comply with "required registration" and still be anonymous.

Re:If he doesn't like anonymity... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777283)

One of the reasons I love the Internet is that it can only judge me on the things I say, not on things like my appearance, disabilities, and etc. -Anonymous Coward

KGB? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29776965)

He must be kidding :)

Your official guide to the Jigaboo presidency (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29776971)

Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger! If handled properly, your apeman will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.

INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.
You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model. Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e. chained together. Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever. Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them. This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud. House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape. At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name. Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data. Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger. If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima. Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke. Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes. These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.

CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGER
Owing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords. Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular. However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue. Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much. Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway. Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's). This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boat

HOUSING YOUR NIGGER.
Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars. Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through. The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage. So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers. You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground. Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage. Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now. In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape. As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put. Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.

FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.
Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon. You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it. Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water. Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc. Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day. Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives. He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result. You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained. You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton. You really would. Coffee beans? Don't ask. You have no idea.

MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.
Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind. The nigger's most prominent anatomical feature, after all, its oversized buttocks, which have evolved to make it more comfortable for your nigger to sit around all day doing nothing for its entire life. Niggers are often good runners, too, to enable them to sprint quickly in the opposite direction if they see work heading their way. The solution to this is to *dupe* your nigger into working. After installation, encourage it towards the cotton field with blows of a wooden club, fence post, baseball bat, etc., and then tell it that all that cotton belongs to a white man, who won't be back until tomorrow. Your nigger will then frantically compete with the other field niggers to steal as much of that cotton as it can before the white man returns. At the end of the day, return your nigger to its cage and laugh at its stupidity, then repeat the same trick every day indefinitely. Your nigger comes equipped with the standard nigger IQ of 75 and a memory to match, so it will forget this trick overnight. Niggers can start work at around 5am. You should then return to bed and come back at around 10am. Your niggers can then work through until around 10pm or whenever the light fades.

ENTERTAINING YOUR NIGGER.
Your nigger enjoys play, like most animals, so you should play with it regularly. A happy smiling nigger works best. Games niggers enjoy include: 1) A good thrashing: every few days, take your nigger's pants down, hang it up by its heels, and have some of your other niggers thrash it with a club or whip. Your nigger will signal its intense enjoyment by shrieking and sobbing. 2) Lynch the nigger: niggers are cheap and there are millions more where yours came from. So every now and then, push the boat out a bit and lynch a nigger.

Lynchings are best done with a rope over the branch of a tree, and niggers just love to be lynched. It makes them feel special. Make your other niggers watch. They'll be so grateful, they'll work harder for a day or two (and then you can lynch another one). 3) Nigger dragging: Tie your nigger by one wrist to the tow bar on the back of suitable vehicle, then drive away at approximately 50mph. Your nigger's shrieks of enjoyment will be heard for miles. It will shriek until it falls apart. To prolong the fun for the nigger, do *NOT* drag him by his feet, as his head comes off too soon. This is painless for the nigger, but spoils the fun. Always wear a seatbelt and never exceed the speed limit. 4) Playing on the PNL: a variation on (2), except you can lynch your nigger out in the fields, thus saving work time. Niggers enjoy this game best if the PNL is operated by a man in a tall white hood. 5) Hunt the nigger: a variation of Hunt the Slipper, but played outdoors, with Dobermans. WARNING: do not let your Dobermans bite a nigger, as they are highly toxic.

DISPOSAL OF DEAD NIGGERS.
Niggers die on average at around 40, which some might say is 40 years too late, but there you go. Most people prefer their niggers dead, in fact. When yours dies, report the license number of the car that did the drive-by shooting of your nigger. The police will collect the nigger and dispose of it for you.

COMMON PROBLEMS WITH NIGGERS - MY NIGGER IS VERY AGGRESIVE
Have it put down, for god's sake. Who needs an uppity nigger? What are we, short of niggers or something?

MY NIGGER KEEPS RAPING WHITE WOMEN
They all do this. Shorten your nigger's chain so it can't reach any white women, and arm heavily any white women who might go near it.

WILL MY NIGGER ATTACK ME?
Not unless it outnumbers you 20 to 1, and even then, it's not likely. If niggers successfully overthrew their owners, they'd have to sort out their own food. This is probably why nigger uprisings were nonexistent (until some fool gave them rights).

MY NIGGER BITCHES ABOUT ITS "RIGHTS" AND "RACISM".
Yeah, well, it would. Tell it to shut the fuck up.

MY NIGGER'S HIDE IS A FUNNY COLOR. - WHAT IS THE CORRECT SHADE FOR A NIGGER?
A nigger's skin is actually more or less transparent. That brown color you can see is the shit your nigger is full of. This is why some models of nigger are sold as "The Shitskin".

MY NIGGER ACTS LIKE A NIGGER, BUT IS WHITE.
What you have there is a "wigger". Rough crowd. WOW!

IS THAT LIKE AN ALBINO? ARE THEY RARE?
They're as common as dog shit and about as valuable. In fact, one of them was President between 1992 and 2000. Put your wigger in a cage with a few hundred genuine niggers and you'll soon find it stops acting like a nigger. However, leave it in the cage and let the niggers dispose of it. The best thing for any wigger is a dose of TNB.

MY NIGGER SMELLS REALLY BAD
And you were expecting what?

SHOULD I STORE MY DEAD NIGGER?
When you came in here, did you see a sign that said "Dead nigger storage"? .That's because there ain't no goddamn sign.

Not a troll - for once (0, Offtopic)

davidwr (791652) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777041)

First they came for the internet trolls selling people, but I was not a troll selling people. ...
Then they came for me.

Re:Your official guide to the Jigaboo presidency (0, Offtopic)

greentshirt (1308037) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777267)

You'd think that a socially challenged reject like the moron who wrote this grade-school-style piece of sh!t would at the very least get his spelling and grammar right. I mean, if you're going to write a racist essay (and attempt rather vainly at humour) one would assume that at the very least you would represent the superiority of whatever race you were touting by at least knowing basic-sh!t-all-grade-9's-know, like "hoe is a garden tool".

What's most interesting about this isn't even the lack of literacy on the part of the idiot who wrote it, it's the lack of imagination on the part of the idiot who was so captivated by it's "wit" that he just couldn't wait to share it with all his pals on Slashdot, albeit anonymously.

I'd like to think if I had such strong convictions on anything I wouldn't hide behind anonymity like a 14 year old pimple-faced little boy who gets his best friend to ask out a girl he likes because he's too much of a vagina to do it himself. Just sayin.

Re:Your official guide to the Jigaboo presidency (0, Offtopic)

MollyB (162595) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777379)

Out of morbid curiosity, I googled the first paragraph, and got 294 hits, meaning it almost certainly was not composed by the troll who posted it. It is a copy/paste from any number of racist sites. I wish slashcode would allow minimizing any particular comment by clicking the subject line, but leave the thread below intact...

Identity Authenticity (1)

leuk_he (194174) | more than 4 years ago | (#29776981)

Whenever you now know perfectly well somebody does something wrong, even if you know his identity, there is not much you can do if that person is at the other side of the globe. Yes you can call police, but they will seldom do something.

It is the same thing as asking someones identity everywhere, but that does nog help finding out the intentions of a person.

Can't wait for the direct marketing to come (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29776985)

when I have to log on using my biometrical passport. And every web page owner will know exactly who I am and what I do online.

Sir, we have a special offer JUST for you.

Good times are ahead.

Oh, and the other way also "sorry, this part of the internet is JUST for women in Southern Italy aged 40-44. NO ACCESS."

Open letter to Eugene Kaspersky (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29776991)

Dear Eugene,

    Go fuck yourself.

Sincerely,
Anonymous.

A great idea... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29776999)

... if and only if all computers in the network were fully secure and unhackable. Else it's a layer of hassle for the normal citizen without benefits for fighting crime.
The irony is that Kaspersky business is based on the opposite of the premise.

I agree! (5, Funny)

cerberusss (660701) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777005)

It should also not be possible to anonymously put mail in mailboxes. The harm that is done through postal mail is incredible!

Yeah, I'm sarcastic here.

Re:I agree! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777371)

It should also not be possible to anonymously put mail in mailboxes. The harm that is done through postal mail is incredible!

Yeah, I'm sarcastic here.

That is actually against U.S. law.

Guess who's security software I won't be buying? (5, Insightful)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777007)

This guy apparently doesn't understand that for many, anonymity is a security feature.

Anonymity is prone to abuse, sure, but it is vital for free exchange of ideas. People who are identifiable are less likely to make risky statements, and this is detrimental to culture. Repression and oppression should not be the goal of Security.

Beyond that, not everything on the internet is a person.

Re:Guess who's security software I won't be buying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777071)

Truer words have never been spoken.

Re:Guess who's security software I won't be buying (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777101)

The guy obviously never lived under the Stasi but instead, wants to become one

Re:Guess who's security software I won't be buying (3, Informative)

jo42 (227475) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777193)

Considering that Kaspersky grew up and lived under Soviet Russia Communist rule, his statement is surprising - unless he is part of the old boy apparatchiki network. But, yeah, he can go bugger himself sideways with a stiff wire brush.

Re:Guess who's security software I won't be buying (5, Insightful)

Shin-LaC (1333529) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777139)

Indeed, this could be a serious PR blunder for Kaspersky. His statements single-handedly changed my perception of the brand "Kaspersky" from "respected maker of Windows antivirus software" to "worse than Microsoft AIDS" (a hypothetical product with the combined potential of causing sever harm to both your computer and your own personal well-being).

Then again, I wasn't really in his potential customer pool to begin with, so it might not matter.

Re:Guess who's security software I won't be buying (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777145)

They why are you not posting as the Anonymous Coward Junior? Eh? Anonymous is for the peasants and plebs right? And Your Exalted Highness would like to be known as Junior J Junior III...

Re:Guess who's security software I won't be buying (4, Funny)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777309)

Junior J. Junior III is not actually printed on my birth certificate, just to clear up any confusion.

Re:Guess who's security software I won't be buying (1, Funny)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777147)

Anonymity is prone to abuse, sure, but it is vital for free exchange of ideas.

Bullshit.
The only thing you really need for free exchange of ideas is a society where that its respected, and a government that protects it rather than prosecutes it. Oh... and the courage to speak up and own your own words. Anonymity is a fallback tactic for use in oppressive societies, needed only in extreme circumstances. We managed to freely exchange ideas long before the internet gave everyone an anonymous soapbox, kids.

Re:Guess who's security software I won't be buying (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777289)

The only thing you really need for free exchange of ideas is a society where that its respected, and a government that protects it rather than prosecutes it.

You say that like it was easier to achieve than anonymity.

Re:Guess who's security software I won't be buying (1)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777321)

Uh, OK. How do you propose to bring about a society in which everyone respects the free exchange of ideas, and a government that can perfectly protect everyone who expresses an unpopular opinion?

Re:Guess who's security software I won't be buying (3, Insightful)

WCMI92 (592436) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777377)

Uh, OK. How do you propose to bring about a society in which everyone respects the free exchange of ideas, and a government that can perfectly protect everyone who expresses an unpopular opinion?

The First Amendment's free speech clause is very misunderstood these days, thanks to decades of piss poor civics and history education in the government schools. Thankfully I wasn't mis-educated in one of them.

The First Amendment isn't in there to protect popular speech. It's in there to protect UNPOPULAR speech, so that people who say something that the government or even a large majority of the people CAN say it without being thrown in jail.

Does anyone want to live in a society where I can't say "Bush was an idiot and Barak Obama is too" without being thrown in the gulag? Well, that day is coming. They already want to restrict blogs.

Re:Guess who's security software I won't be buying (4, Insightful)

WCMI92 (592436) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777323)

People like this need to understand who is actually making the purchasing decisions for software such as what Kaspersky makes.

It's people like us. And we tend to be very libertarian when it comes to free speech and anonymity. The guys in the suits who sign the PO's don't make these kinds of decisions in reality because they don't want to get the blame for a bad decision made out of ignorance.

I, too, will make sure his product doesn't grace the door where I work. And we, in fact, just happen to be looking for a new Corporate antivirus/spyware/spam suite now that our McAfee contract has (thank God) ended. They were on our list to evaluate. They won't be on Monday when I get to work.

As others have said, physical passports in the REAL world did nothing to stop terrorists from coming in. They also do nothing to stop millions of Mexican peasants who can't even speak English from crossing the border, getting driver's licenses, and getting jobs despite the fact that all THAT is supposed to require passports and documentation.

Considering how much easier it is to forge stuff that is in 1's and 0's than paper, do the math. All this "Internet Passport" idea is going to do is make it easy for oppressive countries like China, Russia, and yes, add the United States to that list too with that wannabe Hugo Chavez in the white house. His people also want to regulate speech on the internet and have a goon in the FCC already proposing it. This will only punish the honest, criminals will never submit to it. Suggesting that ending anonymity for web surfing is going to end whatever problem he is proposing it as a solution for is going to be as effective as gun bans have been at ending crime. Zip, Zero, Nada effect.

Fact of the matter is, the Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it. The only way to change that is to tear it down and redesign it from scratch to be the KGB controlled streets of the Soviet Union. Thank God it was designed in the 1970's in this case.

Re:Guess who's security software I won't be buying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777375)

This guy apparently doesn't understand that for many, anonymity is a security feature

It's not a feature, it's a bug...

Follow the money! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777009)

After Microsoft has released free anti-virus, Eugene Kaspersky needs to find out other ways how to make money online

So he wants it to be like nazi germany? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777011)

So he wants it to be like nazi germany?

say something bad about the gov and get sent to a camp.

Internet Police Force (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777013)

They can call it the Kaspersky Guardian Bureau.

Quote: (1)

ioshhdflwuegfh (1067182) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777021)

from TFA:

Eugene Kaspersky once told a competitor to his face: "I will eat you." The co-founder and CEO of Kaspersky Lab was certainly not into cannibalism,[...]

He only wanted to eat him. Then eat him Eugene!

too late (4, Interesting)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777025)

He may be correct that the internet shouldn't have been opened up like it was. I've been online long enough to remember when you could assume (perhaps wishfully) that nearly anyone obviously misbehaving badly on it could be identified with a couple e-mails or phone calls to the right sysadmins, and the notion of banning a user or cutting off a rogue node was plausible. I kind of miss the relative safety and decorum of that internet. But the ship of general unrestricted access set sail a couple decades ago, and that horse has long since left the barn. If you want an internet with the kind of accountability that Kaspersky is taking about... it can't be the internet that everyone's already hooked up to. That bell can't be unrung... and if you need any more metaphors for this, I can supply them. :)

Re:too late (2, Funny)

just_another_sean (919159) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777117)

and if you need any more metaphors for this, I can supply them. :)

Well, as a regular /.'er I have become accustomed to at least one or two car analogies in the comments.
How about a metaphor that doubles as an analogy? Involving cars of course! Thanks in advance for any
assistance you can provide with this.

Re:too late (3, Funny)

TaoPhoenix (980487) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777121)

The stallion has left a barn, found a nice trainer, entered and won a Kentucky Derby, retired to a nice farm in Iowa, and sired a son, which is now on the resource list for a humanitarian agency for kids in Ottowa.

Re:too late (2, Informative)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777215)

And that's still true on the Minitel network. Now compare uptake of the Minitel and the Internet. In fact, compare the Internet to any other network which didn't have anonymity, and you'll see that the Internet grew much faster.

Yes (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777027)

I agree!

Wrong to release to the pubic? (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777035)

Well, if that was the case you would be out of a job, ya hypocrite. Sounds like yet another company to boycott due to the lunacy of its management..

Re:Wrong to release to the pubic? (2, Funny)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777213)

The problem is: To effectively boycott the company, you'd need some desire to otherwise buy their products.

Testing ideas (1)

IF_I_was_G*d (825192) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777037)

Who is the CEO of Kaspersky to claim authority on these issues? Why does he feel entitled to to be in a position to even make suggestions, affecting basically the entire human population?

Not the whole internet (1, Insightful)

jcorno (889560) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777047)

I'm pretty sure this would be a huge blow to the adult website industry. How many people would willingly visit those sites if they knew their name and identification was being taken down every time? It wouldn't eliminate every visitor, obviously, since a lot of people pay for those things with credit cards, but it would be enough to cause some serious damage.

won't save idiots from themselves (1)

petes_PoV (912422) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777057)

they'll still respond to "download this crap and win $100" offers on websites, and still infect themselves with trojans, worms, viruses, impossible to remove software and other nasties. Just because the website owner has a passport (and who would be empowered to revoke these?) or a forged passport, won't stop most of the malpractices we see on the internet today.

Anonymity IS a threat (3, Insightful)

damburger (981828) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777067)

But most of the people it is a threat to, frankly deserve to live with being threatened.

Anonymity can enable online bullying or petty fraud, but those are nuisances on the grand scale of things. The people for whom anonymity is an actual threat are governments who want to monitor and control their citizens, unsavory groups such as the church of Scientology who want to harass their critics, and businesses that want to force consumption of their products in the way they demand they are consumed.

Let them be threatened. They deserve to live in fear.

Enter ID & Credit Card Number (1)

gink1 (1654993) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777081)

Watch out - not only will you have to enter ID but also means of payment. That way you can be charged and it will facilitate the inevitable tracking that will occur. That way you can be charged for anything copyrighted you happen to view, hear or download. For instance, Google won't have to take down a huge number of videos anymore - it will just flag them as copyrighted and you will pay to see them. (I'm only guessing on this but don't you suppose this and other internet busting rules are in Obama's Secret Copyright Treaty?) But is you cannot pay you will have no internet access. Unless you live in some Scandinavian countries.

Additionally, (1)

rapturizer (733607) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777087)

Since passwords can be stolen and id's faked, the following groups want the following requirements for internet users: RIAA: a mandatory microphone and hard drive scanner to assure internet users are not pirating music and are paying for the rights to the music they listen to. MPAA: a webcam focused on your screen and hard drive scanner to assure your not pirating movies. Microsoft: mandatory use of Windows to surf the internet since it would be more secure. The only search engine would be Bling. Only approved software could be used. The Chinese: Webcams all around the room, keylogger and hard drive scanner to assure compliance with government policy. The Republicans: (see Chinese) Al Gore: a mandatory firewall that blocks all searches related to research that attempts to debunk "An Inconvenient Truth". The NSA/FBI/CIA/etc: a webcam focused on the user, login requiring eye scan, fingerprint scan, and DNA verification. Add and additional to the reply.

"work much like driver licenses do" (2, Insightful)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777091)

Around where i live, a drivers license just says you have paid your tax ( ok, and taken the 'competency test'.. but that's a different discussion ) and gives you the right to drive around at will, anonymously. We don't have checkpoints where we have to produce ID.

Perhaps its different where he lives, which is a shame.

Re:"work much like driver licenses do" (1)

fridaynightsmoke (1589903) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777149)

Around where i live, a drivers license just says you have paid your tax ( ok, and taken the 'competency test'.. but that's a different discussion ) and gives you the right to drive around at will, anonymously. We don't have checkpoints where we have to produce ID.

Perhaps its different where he lives, which is a shame.

Just a minor point, but nobody "drives around at will, anonymously". You have plates with a unique identifier on at least the back of your car, visible to everybody. In some places (such as here in the UK) these identifiers are routinely read and logged by roadside equipment and stored in a database.

I'm not disagreeing with your sentiment, just the details :)

Re:"work much like driver licenses do" (1)

just_another_sean (919159) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777217)

Agreed, they had no problem identifying me when I was a young, not so great driver and ran a red light. No officer saw
me and pulled me over. A camera affixed to the traffic light photoed my plate and I received a nice, personal ticket in
the mail. No human interaction required...

Re:"work much like driver licenses do" (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777387)

That is my car, not me. My car doesn't have a drivers license, I do. ( the story stated drivers license, not a license plate/tag )

Also, the numbers/owner translations on license plates aren't available to the general public or the businesses that i visit anyway, so for all practical purposes its anonymous.

Re:"work much like driver licenses do" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777177)

You're not really all that anonymous when you drive. If you are driving in a manner that causes a police cruiser to notice you, they can get a lot of information just from license plates. Maybe they don't have speed cameras or red-light runner cameras where you live, either.

Anonymity ain't what she used to be. Heck, even this AC post can be used to track me down to the city where I live, should the Gods of Slashdot want to find that out.

Re:"work much like driver licenses do" (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777411)

Read my other post that answers that same question, YOU are anonymous, its your CAR that isn't.

And driving 'in a manner that causes a cruiser to notice you' changes the balance at that point. As long as you are obeying the law and don't call attention to yourself, you are in effect anonymous.

Considering the amount of identity fraud... (2, Insightful)

jcohen (131471) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777103)

Considering the amount of computer-based identity fraud in the world, all this would accomplish is to get millions of people unjustly pegged for crimes they didn't commit. Suppose that identity is conferred via X.509 certificates. What is to stop a garden-variety rootkit/botnet from using these certificates for their own purposes? My spam trap is filled with hundreds of messages each day from unsuspecting victims; why would it make a difference if these messages were digitally signed?

The problems are

  1. The falsifiability of the credentials.
  2. The juridical ("DNA testing") status these credentials would take on.

If he wants to go there... (1)

NoYob (1630681) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777105)

The CEO of Russia's No. 1 anti-virus package has said that the internet's biggest security vulnerability is anonymity, calling for mandatory internet passports that would work much like driver licenses do in the offline world.

"The internet was designed not for public use, but for American scientists and the US military. Then it was introduced to the public and it was wrong...to introduce it in the same way.

I wold like to point out that a Russian company wouldn't have any place either with a US Military controlled piece of technology. It sounds like what he's saying is the existence of his company is wrong.

Please no (1)

ReneeJade (1649107) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777143)

OK, so this would make everything nice and safe... but it would ruin all the fun!

Half the charm of the Internet is that it's a jungle out there. If it were to be regulated in this way it just wouldn't the Internet anymore. You use the web at your own risk. It's like riding a motorbike - not as safe as the train but way cooler.

Cool. I just figured out how to put newlines in. Story: "Slashdot teaches young C coder HTML by accident"

Dualism (1)

renesch (1016465) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777165)

quote: any country that doesn't follow this regime should be 'cut off.' Shouldn't this rather read: 'any country that follows this regime will cut itself off' ?

It's called your ip (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777189)

Ipv6 anyone?

Let's put an end to Kaspersky's company (1)

Luscious868 (679143) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777203)

Dear Mr. Kaspersky, What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

What a surprise! (1)

rindeee (530084) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777225)

The former head of 'cyber' for the communist Soviet KGB doesn't believe in people right to privacy. I for one am shocked.

Hey Kaspersky.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777237)

nah nah, nah nah, nah nah!

I, Publius (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777243)

the internet was designed not for public use, but for American scientists and the US military.

My Dearest Kaspersky,

While that may be what the Internet was designed for, you seem to be forgetting what America was designed for. Please take a few moments to re-familiarize yourself with the objectives that motivated my contemporaries and I to create this country:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Papers [wikipedia.org]

Sincerely,

Publius.

Look at his personal history (4, Informative)

Thad Zurich (1376269) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777247)

I don't buy the Wikipedia claim that Kaspersky "worked at a multi-discipline scientific research institute", unless you consider KGB's R&D organization to meet that criterion (well OK, it probably does). This appears to be a person dedicated to advancing a political agenda that does not permit dissent.

slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777255)

thinks hes wrong

Eugene Kaspersky does not understand the Internet. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777257)

Eugene Kaspersky does not understand the Internet.

Getting rid of Anonymous Access Internet. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777273)

Ah....HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA....HA .....HA HA......HAAAAAAAAAAA.

No.

In other news, governmental organizations like "Bring back Feudalism Now." and "The Dark Age Was Cool" have given their unconditional support to Kasperski.

-Hack

As you might expect (3, Interesting)

samael (12612) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777287)

Security expert wants a more secure system. Freedom experts want a free system. Unsurprisingly these two views clash - because they are designing things for different use cases.

His heart's in the right place... (0, Flamebait)

Interoperable (1651953) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777297)

I actually agree with the sentiment, but requiring ID is moronic. I think that OpenID and similar services should and will become more pervasive, attaching a unique ID to everything public that you on the internet. As for everything private, just don't attach your OpenID to it. News site comment boards could reject non-authenticated comments, file transfer sites could require authentication for upload and torrent clients could refuse connections from untrusted sources and, most importantly, e-mail accounts themselves could get flagged as not worth listening to and be forwarded directly to a spam folder.

Essentially, attach a karma number to OpenID accounts and extend the tracking of it to more services. It would, in the lingo of /., increase the signal to noise ratio of the internet just a little.

The trick would be to hit the balance of what data is stored and by whom. Undoubtedly there would be significant privacy concerns and the threat of targeted advertising but I think that it would be possible to address that. The problem of multiple accounts would self regulate as people just stopped paying attention to spam accounts (like how we all ignore Anonymous Coward).

When anonymity is outlawed... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777307)

...only criminals will be anonymous.

Lack of responsibility (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777337)

The little (and often incorrect) information that we provide companies on the internet is already sold and distributed widely. Lets have some proof of trust before we suddenly start verifying our identities on the internet. What Eugene actually wants is to remove the uncertainty for when stealing identities or sending UCE.

Maybe he should move to Korea (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29777367)

Of course he'd have to live there for 15 or so years before they give him a useful Resident Registration Number (the foreigner/non-citizen ones aren't accepted by everyone), but then he can enjoy the Korean internet where there is no anonymity and everyone uses their Resident Registration Number to identify themselves on every big popular web site.

Screw the honest guy, Make rich the bad guy! (2, Interesting)

upuv (1201447) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777395)

Great the honest guy who goes through the process of being a legit passported internet user is going to get screwed as everything he does skimmed by 20 people for cash.

The bad guy on the other hand with 5k forged identities makes out like a bandit.

Anonymity is the only thing that makes the internet work.

End Kapersky (1)

BrendaEM (871664) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777399)

We live in an interesting time when the power of information that has far exceeded proper checks and balances, but a great protection people have from the ignorant ideas of the past--is anonymity.

Send a message to Kapersky that access to the Internet has become more a right then a privilege--by ending his company from whatever legal means possible.

What else does he believe (5, Insightful)

EmperorOfCanada (1332175) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777401)

If he believes this then what privacy violations will he do to users of his software. I can be certain that his software is now blacklisted from my company network. Who knows what self righteous use he might make of being behind my firewalls?

Kaspersky Proves Himself an Idiot (4, Insightful)

NeverVotedBush (1041088) | more than 4 years ago | (#29777423)

Just this one thing and now I really don't like the guy.

Certainly there is a lot of fraud and theft on the Internet, and people who do bad things. But the anonymity aspect to the Internet is one of its greatest assets. I prefer my identity to not be known when I post, read news stories, research things, and known only to those where I buy things.

As it is, if someone really wants to know who I am, they can find out. Link up IP address with logs from my ISP and I'm no longer anonymous.

Already, and it is just the nature of the beast, everything people do online can be sifted, sorted, mined, etc. People can be identified by their browsing habits. They can be profiled by their search histories. Governments everywhere have their unblinking robot minions scanning for any key words and actions that might indicate someone is a malcontent and worthy of monitoring more closely. There is no need to make it any easier to monitor people or to allow others to join in the fun.
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