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Astro Boy Director Speaks

CmdrTaco posted more than 4 years ago | from the it-looks-so-pretty dept.

Anime 82

An anonymous reader writes 'The director of Flushed Away, David Bowers, discusses his new Japanese manga adaptation, shares his science fiction influences and relates Astro Boy's thematic relationship to Star Wars.' I recently was reading Astro Boy manga, and I'm very hopeful that the movie won't disappoint. It looks really fantastic, but visuals in trailers certainly can lie.

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I predict... (4, Funny)

epiphani (254981) | more than 4 years ago | (#29794411)

The continued rape of my childhood.

Re:I predict... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29794501)

You were molested by a Japanese octopus and his many, many tentacles?

Re:I predict... (1)

Abreu (173023) | more than 4 years ago | (#29794731)

[pedant nerd]

If Astro Boy doesn't have a machine gun coming out of his ass then the movie is DEAD to me! DEAD!

[/pedant nerd]

Re:I predict... (1)

flitty (981864) | more than 4 years ago | (#29794873)

From the movie trailer I saw on TV last night

I have machine guns... in my butt?!

Re:I predict... (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795235)

NOBODY rapes Astroboy [images-amazon.com] .

Re:I predict... (1)

dontPanik (1296779) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795947)

The movie looks simply awful.

I could barely make it through the trailer without throwing something at the tv.

Re:I predict... (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#29799553)

The movie looks simply awful.

I certainly thought so, but my seven year old son loved it, which is the point I suppose.

Re:I predict... (1)

orsty3001 (1377575) | more than 4 years ago | (#29797635)

I can't tell the difference between Astro Boy and Mega Man.

Re:I predict... (1)

TheVelvetFlamebait (986083) | more than 4 years ago | (#29798641)

Hmm...

Does this mean we should lock up most of hollywood on paedophilia charges?

No mention of production hell (4, Interesting)

Picass0 (147474) | more than 4 years ago | (#29794419)

Astro Boy ran out of money and fired it's entire staff of animators at one point. The movie was finished on the cheap. I do not have high hopes for this one.

Re:No mention of production hell (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29794575)

The Astro Boy toy line went straight to the discount stores, a sure sign that retailers see it as this year's Speed Racer (the toy line of which was an even bigger flop than the movie, as a trip to any Toys R Us will confirm).

Re:No mention of production hell (2, Interesting)

Toonol (1057698) | more than 4 years ago | (#29799631)

retailers see it as this year's Speed Racer

I will be thrilled if this is as good as Speed Racer. That is a criminally underrated movie.

Not quite what this says (2, Informative)

OzPeter (195038) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795187)

This story [ramascreen.com] puts a slightly different slant on the "no money" aspect. They had bridging finance that was late in showing up, so union says that they have to shut down for the duration.

Re:No mention of production hell (1)

jvenzon (615567) | more than 4 years ago | (#29800397)

It's true the gap financing ran out, but if you'll remember something happening with the economy at that point? A bunch of... what's it called... lack of available credit? And with Astro being an independent animated film, it was hit the hardest. Once financing was back in place the majority of the crew came back, and finished it. Sound designer Richard Anderson (Raiders of the Lost Ark) and composer John Ottman (Usual Suspects) were hired and the film finished in style. See it, and then judge.

Your official guide to the Jigaboo presidency (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29794451)

Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger! If handled properly, your apeman will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.

INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.
You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model. Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e. chained together. Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever. Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them. This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud. House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape. At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name. Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data. Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger. If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima. Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke. Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes. These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.

CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGER
Owing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords. Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular. However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue. Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much. Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway. Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's). This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boat

HOUSING YOUR NIGGER.
Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars. Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through. The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage. So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers. You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground. Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage. Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now. In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape. As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put. Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.

FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.
Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon. You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it. Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water. Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc. Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day. Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives. He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result. You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained. You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton. You really would. Coffee beans? Don't ask. You have no idea.

MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.
Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind. The nigger's most prominent anatomical feature, after all, its oversized buttocks, which have evolved to make it more comfortable for your nigger to sit around all day doing nothing for its entire life. Niggers are often good runners, too, to enable them to sprint quickly in the opposite direction if they see work heading their way. The solution to this is to *dupe* your nigger into working. After installation, encourage it towards the cotton field with blows of a wooden club, fence post, baseball bat, etc., and then tell it that all that cotton belongs to a white man, who won't be back until tomorrow. Your nigger will then frantically compete with the other field niggers to steal as much of that cotton as it can before the white man returns. At the end of the day, return your nigger to its cage and laugh at its stupidity, then repeat the same trick every day indefinitely. Your nigger comes equipped with the standard nigger IQ of 75 and a memory to match, so it will forget this trick overnight. Niggers can start work at around 5am. You should then return to bed and come back at around 10am. Your niggers can then work through until around 10pm or whenever the light fades.

ENTERTAINING YOUR NIGGER.
Your nigger enjoys play, like most animals, so you should play with it regularly. A happy smiling nigger works best. Games niggers enjoy include: 1) A good thrashing: every few days, take your nigger's pants down, hang it up by its heels, and have some of your other niggers thrash it with a club or whip. Your nigger will signal its intense enjoyment by shrieking and sobbing. 2) Lynch the nigger: niggers are cheap and there are millions more where yours came from. So every now and then, push the boat out a bit and lynch a nigger.

Lynchings are best done with a rope over the branch of a tree, and niggers just love to be lynched. It makes them feel special. Make your other niggers watch. They'll be so grateful, they'll work harder for a day or two (and then you can lynch another one). 3) Nigger dragging: Tie your nigger by one wrist to the tow bar on the back of suitable vehicle, then drive away at approximately 50mph. Your nigger's shrieks of enjoyment will be heard for miles. It will shriek until it falls apart. To prolong the fun for the nigger, do *NOT* drag him by his feet, as his head comes off too soon. This is painless for the nigger, but spoils the fun. Always wear a seatbelt and never exceed the speed limit. 4) Playing on the PNL: a variation on (2), except you can lynch your nigger out in the fields, thus saving work time. Niggers enjoy this game best if the PNL is operated by a man in a tall white hood. 5) Hunt the nigger: a variation of Hunt the Slipper, but played outdoors, with Dobermans. WARNING: do not let your Dobermans bite a nigger, as they are highly toxic.

DISPOSAL OF DEAD NIGGERS.
Niggers die on average at around 40, which some might say is 40 years too late, but there you go. Most people prefer their niggers dead, in fact. When yours dies, report the license number of the car that did the drive-by shooting of your nigger. The police will collect the nigger and dispose of it for you.

COMMON PROBLEMS WITH NIGGERS - MY NIGGER IS VERY AGGRESIVE
Have it put down, for god's sake. Who needs an uppity nigger? What are we, short of niggers or something?

MY NIGGER KEEPS RAPING WHITE WOMEN
They all do this. Shorten your nigger's chain so it can't reach any white women, and arm heavily any white women who might go near it.

WILL MY NIGGER ATTACK ME?
Not unless it outnumbers you 20 to 1, and even then, it's not likely. If niggers successfully overthrew their owners, they'd have to sort out their own food. This is probably why nigger uprisings were nonexistent (until some fool gave them rights).

MY NIGGER BITCHES ABOUT ITS "RIGHTS" AND "RACISM".
Yeah, well, it would. Tell it to shut the fuck up.

MY NIGGER'S HIDE IS A FUNNY COLOR. - WHAT IS THE CORRECT SHADE FOR A NIGGER?
A nigger's skin is actually more or less transparent. That brown color you can see is the shit your nigger is full of. This is why some models of nigger are sold as "The Shitskin".

MY NIGGER ACTS LIKE A NIGGER, BUT IS WHITE.
What you have there is a "wigger". Rough crowd. WOW!

IS THAT LIKE AN ALBINO? ARE THEY RARE?
They're as common as dog shit and about as valuable. In fact, one of them was President between 1992 and 2000. Put your wigger in a cage with a few hundred genuine niggers and you'll soon find it stops acting like a nigger. However, leave it in the cage and let the niggers dispose of it. The best thing for any wigger is a dose of TNB.

MY NIGGER SMELLS REALLY BAD
And you were expecting what?

SHOULD I STORE MY DEAD NIGGER?
When you came in here, did you see a sign that said "Dead nigger storage"? .That's because there ain't no goddamn sign.

Nothing to add (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29794479)

"It looks really fantastic, but visuals in trailers certainly can lie"

And no further discussion is needed

They changed it too much... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29794699)

They've turned it into generic commercial fluff.

The new one is a comedic coming of age story where the little robot boy has lots of cliche catch-phrases and in the end Dr. Tenma finally realizes the worth of his estranged robot-son.

(Sorry for the spoiler.)

Don't even torrent it. It's not worth the bandwidth.

Re:They changed it too much... (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795139)

The new one is a comedic coming of age story where the little robot boy has lots of cliche catch-phrases and in the end Dr. Tenma finally realizes the worth of his estranged robot-son.

One of the more recent animated series had Tenma eventually seeing Astro as a robotic Messiah that would eventually lead robots to complete genocide against humanity. That's the version they should have done. ;-)

Was that the 2003 series? I remember one of the newer ones having really nice art design to it. One character had an ostrich robot that would follow her around like an assistant and also acted as luggage and a computer. Totally wanted one.

hmmm (2, Insightful)

nomadic (141991) | more than 4 years ago | (#29794769)

The trailer looks pretty bad. But then again, the original show was pretty bad, too.

Re:hmmm (0, Offtopic)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795021)

Weeaboos will troll you for speaking the truth.

Re:hmmm (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29795153)

but will he nigger you for speaking to the troll?

Re:hmmm (1)

mlingojones (919531) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795033)

It was a manga first, actually, and THAT was excellent and groundbreaking. Osamu Tezuka is one of the most important names in cartooning and animation. Let's hope the movie lives up to his name.

A Tepid Defense (2, Interesting)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795275)

The trailer looks pretty bad. But then again, the original show was pretty bad, too.

Having not experienced Astro Boy until the ripe old age of 25 on Adult Swim, I will defend certain aspects of the show. Namely, I found the various scientists [wikipedia.org] to be interesting, inventive, original and true to science fiction in that -- at least in the handful of episodes I watched -- the often posed moral problems with their inventions. I found some of the topics almost prophetic about what we would be faced with as our technology advances. While this was nothing new to me now, these were animated from 1952 to 1968. To a lesser extent, the villains [wikipedia.org] seemed to every now and then be more than one dimensional bad--a welcomed change. While I have not seen all of them, what I did see was very inventive in the mysteries and adventures of Astro Boy.

Now, that said, the worst aspect of the show was the main character. Tetsuwan Atomu ("Mighty Atom") or Astro Boy was pretty darn one dimensional. Maybe this is great for children, I got real tired of it. Never really seeming to change or evolve from episode to episode, he had a built in ability to tell what's right and wrong. Making him ridiculously infallible and lame. He also seemed to have the Batman's Utility Belt Effect enabled (I just happened to have the antidote to Iocane powder in my belt!) in the devices in his back. To me, the origin story of Astro Boy will probably be mighty boring and straightforward unless he was not created with these built in features and had to find his way. Unfortunately, the previews seem to indicate my fears.

I won't bash it until I see the movie. But that interview was short and soft-balled. It did nothing for my confidence in this movie. Simply put: his target audience is most likely kids. And that's great. And that might get him the most money. But it's not for me. The experience I strive for is not spoon fed black and white problems resolved by the tested, tried and true silver bullet. I feel sorry for movie goers interested in only replication of that plot and welcome movies like The Watchmen.

Re:A Tepid Defense (1)

darkmayo (251580) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795779)

For a different take on Astroboy you should check out Pluto, by Naoki Urasawa (Monster, 20th Century Boys)

Its a retelling of the "Greatest Robot on Earth" except its more focused on the Detective Robot and his tracking of a series human murders and the deaths of the most advanced robots in the world.

Excellent story and not so black and white.

Re:A Tepid Defense (1)

Monsieur_F (531564) | more than 4 years ago | (#29805239)

This is indeed a really excellent book.

(But it _is_ black and white except for the first pages and some flowers)

Now if they could just hurry a bit to publish the end of the story ;)

Re:A Tepid Defense (1)

jasontheking (124650) | more than 4 years ago | (#29798023)

He also seemed to have the Batman's Utility Belt Effect enabled (I just happened to have the antidote to Iocane powder in my belt!) in the devices in his back.

Bat shark repellant was the worst.

Re:A Tepid Defense (1)

the Atomic Rabbit (200041) | more than 4 years ago | (#29801533)

Now, that said, the worst aspect of the show was the main character. Tetsuwan Atomu ("Mighty Atom") or Astro Boy was pretty darn one dimensional. Maybe this is great for children, I got real tired of it.

This is intentional. Astro Boy is a proxy for the viewer (or reader); the neutrality of his personality serves as a blank slate for you to project onto. Other examples: Tintin, Fone Bone, and most of the major "superheroes" in Western comics (Superman, Peter Parker, etc.).

Transformers was ruined (3, Insightful)

elnyka (803306) | more than 4 years ago | (#29794825)

When the movies came out, I was hoping to get the DVDs and show them to my 6 and 7 year old nephews. Instead, movie makers took a perfectly kid's cartoon and made it into a drool-over-Megan-Fox-with-doggie-humping kaplooza for male teens.

Can't wait to see AstroBoy (I grew up watching the cartoon), but color me surprise if it doesn't get butchered, too.

Re:Transformers was ruined (2, Insightful)

Absolut187 (816431) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795173)

Don't forget John Turturro's ass in a thong.
And the best line from any "kid's movie":
"I only wear these when I'm going to fuck"

What a piece of garbage.
All they had to do was show big robots fighting for 2 hours without cursing, and they fucked it up.

Re:Transformers was ruined (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29805295)

Don't forget John Turturro's ass in a thong.

I was REALLY trying VERY hard to forget that.
Thanks

Re:Transformers was ruined (3, Insightful)

Donniedarkness (895066) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795183)

I was actually a little angry over the second Transformers film.

I'm normally pretty liberal and all, but WHY was a movie that was marketed so heavily towards children (tons of toys, promotional burger king kids meals, etc.) filled with so much sex and profanity?

Re:Transformers was ruined (1)

BlackSnake112 (912158) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795591)

I was actually a little angry over the second Transformers film.

I'm normally pretty liberal and all, but WHY was a movie that was marketed so heavily towards children (tons of toys, promotional burger king kids meals, etc.) filled with so much sex and profanity?

Megan Fox is in it. The woman is beautiful. How is her acting? Most do not get past he looks to notice her acting. I think that is what the producers are hoping for.

I saw an interview she did. It was not totally scripted. She seems sort of hung up on herself.

Re:Transformers was ruined (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29805439)

Megan Fox is in it. The woman is beautiful. How is her acting?

I liked her acting. Both of them.

Re:Transformers was ruined (3, Interesting)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 4 years ago | (#29796643)

You seem to have missed the current trend in "kids" movies. Shrek 2 had a character performing auto-fellatio. Casper had Casper excited because he had a girl in his bed. Happy Feet had the King Penguin asking the women which one was going to go first in the orgy they were about to have. Cars had a character talking about the woman's deposit load here tattoo. The list goes on and on. Any more, it isn't a question of which children's movies have inappropriate content. It's a question of which movies don't.

Re:Transformers was ruined (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29797311)

Did you just equate a cat grooming himself to auto-fellatio? I think that one may be your issue rather than Shrek being porn.

Advocating Furry Porn for kids? Really??? (1)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 4 years ago | (#29812145)

When a character that stands on two feet, speaks English and dresses in human clothes is put on the screen, it is no longer an "animal". It is a person. Specifically the fetish for these anthropomorphized characters are called "Furries". It amazes me how many people rationalize that if it is animated Furry Porn, that it is OK to market it to kids. If your into furry porn, that's fine, but it shouldn't be marketed directly to prepubescent children any more than any other porn, fetish or not, should be.

Re:Transformers was ruined (1)

electrons_are_brave (1344423) | more than 4 years ago | (#29804483)

At least Astrogirl's not in it! I also hate the way that sex is brough in it now-a-days, but I hated it just as much when romance crept into the stories back then.

It's always been the case that the vast majority of main characters are male (on the logic that girls will relate to both male and female characters, but boys will only relate to male characters). I remember being quite annoyed when the shows would suddenly introduce the female, waste-of-space version of the male character (Astrogirl/Batgirl/that stupid girl-lion from Kimba). Those female characters were so puke-making.

Astroboy was such a pretty, asexual character, so much so that I could relate to him as much as my brother could. Now they have him looking more masculine (and a little older, I think). So I hope they don't sexualize his behaviour. I'll also be interested in seeing how the Cora character is rendered. (?)

Re:Transformers was ruined (2, Insightful)

beanyk (230597) | more than 4 years ago | (#29796725)

... and, um, violence?

Re:Transformers was ruined (1)

gnick (1211984) | more than 4 years ago | (#29797351)

Thank you for adding that. Why shooting guns at people, for some people, is less shocking than swearing at them confuses the heck out of me. And gods forbid that a nipple enter the scene - Maybe we can filter that nasty part out by digitally inserting a carefully placed exploding head.

Re:Transformers was ruined (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 4 years ago | (#29798385)

Because usually 7 year olds don't have guns to shoot at people, but they do have mouths to run?

Re:Transformers was ruined (1)

gnick (1211984) | more than 4 years ago | (#29798585)

By that logic is it preferable for a movie to depict somebody shooting someone else with a gun than with a spit wad?

Re:Transformers was ruined (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 4 years ago | (#29801537)

Yes it is.

Re:Transformers was ruined (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29802491)

Never breed.

Re:Transformers was ruined (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 4 years ago | (#29803911)

Too late.

Re:Transformers was ruined (1)

beanyk (230597) | more than 4 years ago | (#29798895)

Yes, but there's more to violence than guns. Rocks, baseball bats, fists, boots ...

(and a small percentage of 7-year-olds do seem to be able to get at their parents' guns)

Re:Transformers was ruined (1)

elnyka (803306) | more than 4 years ago | (#29803015)

Thank you for adding that. Why shooting guns at people, for some people, is less shocking than swearing at them confuses the heck out of me. And gods forbid that a nipple enter the scene - Maybe we can filter that nasty part out by digitally inserting a carefully placed exploding head.

You seem to be missing the point of a fight comic, of good characters fighting evil characters, the heroic epic.

Remember how in the GI Joe cartoons when the good guys where shooting at the Cobra airplanes and never did a Cobra soldier died? They all were jumping in parachutes?

Or in the old Transformers' toons. Rarely a character died. You can't compare that kind of shooting (the fighting/struggle part of an heroic epic) with, say, a bunch of gansta' blowing each others brains off over a truck of dope. It'd be like comparing the fighting scenes of Mighty Max with Conan's Battle of the Mounds (which I love btw, but I'd never let a little kid watch it.)

The Transformers movie was supposed to be a real pple + CGI rendering of an epic cartoon series originally for kids.

When I first saw the first Transformer's movie, I was concerned to see characters being killed by the Decepticons. That's when I started questioning whether this was appropriate for a 6 year old kid.

With the second movie, that certainly cleared that up, that shit is not for kids.

It should not be that mystifying to understand why this is an issue.

Re:Transformers was ruined (1)

abigsmurf (919188) | more than 4 years ago | (#29799493)

There were shots in the action scenes long enough for you to see what was happening?

Re:Transformers was ruined (1)

abigsmurf (919188) | more than 4 years ago | (#29799559)

It's weird I love a sleazy action film but I when they had the mother getting high (L O L) and the knee high camera shots of girls' arses, all I could think was "this is a film being at least partly marketed at 10 year olds?". It's not something I would have taken kids to.

Re:Transformers was ruined (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#29862805)

Uuum, in what perverse sick world is sex not the opposite of filth? It seems you got the "Religion" disease, which makes you think, that beautiful thing has any bad association at all. You should be ashamed of yourself. And "profanity"?? For real? If you dislike being a human, and living in a world of reality, then please STOP doing so. Instead of looking through the glasses of a twisted and sick reality. Or get yourself a therapy.
You disgust me.

Will it be a musical?? With a dance ??? (1)

OzPeter (195038) | more than 4 years ago | (#29794837)

I'm not sure if I am looking forward to learning the "Astro Glide"

My read from the trailer (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 4 years ago | (#29794959)

I'm guessing this one doesn't have a drunken Dr. Tenma selling Astro off to the brutal robot circus. Or maybe it does, but the trailer doesn't presage such a thing. Anyone seen a sneak preview, legal or otherwise?

But, hey, now we know that Astro was "born ready". :-\

Maybe he'll be doing the kicking of the asses and the taking of the names and the chewing of the gum of the bubbles.

Woops. Sorry. Started channeling Starfire for a moment.

Re:My read from the trailer (1)

stevel (64802) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795159)

I happened upon an exhibit of Tezuka's work at the Tokyo-Edo Museum when I was visiting Japan in April. It had a TV showing an extended clip from the movie. It didn't show anything that hinted at the overall plot, other than it evidently being, as noted in the interview, an "origin movie". All of the text on the displays was in Japanese, so if there was any explanation of the movie plot, it eluded me. As a big fan of the English version from the 1960s, I'm eager to see the movie, but my expectations are low.

Re:My read from the trailer (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#29803069)

I'm guessing this one doesn't have a drunken Dr. Tenma selling Astro off to the brutal robot circus. Or maybe it does, but the trailer doesn't presage such a thing. Anyone seen a sneak preview, legal or otherwise?

It does have that bit. I saw it on the weekend.

slashdot cancelled its twitter feed.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29795017)

c'mon guys... dont you know that giving away your content for free (no ads) is good advertising and a sound business strategy?

If this is anything like Flushed Away... (1)

bemymonkey (1244086) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795031)

...it's gonna be awesome.

This is a travesty (5, Insightful)

KnownIssues (1612961) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795121)

*Movie X* was such an influential part of my childhood. You can't just take *X* hours of a series and cram it into a movie without losing everything magical about it. There's just too much compromise moving from *medium X* to the movies. And changing *minor element X* to *minor element Y* just proves that point. This is one movie I will definitely claim not to see. The graphics look pretty good though.

Re:This is a travesty (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795741)

You can't just take *X* hours of a series and cram it into a movie without losing everything magical about it.

Let X = 2 to 3 (that is, five to seven episodes) and save room for the sequel; does that change the outcome?

Re:This is a travesty (2, Insightful)

BobMcD (601576) | more than 4 years ago | (#29797247)

Personally, I think this is a healthy and normal reaction to maturity. Adult eyes are far less able to detect magic than juvenile ones. Were this movie to be shown to our ten-year-old selves, we'd probably love it. But since it fails to recreate that wonderment and imagination potential that the previous material did when we were younger, we lay blame.

On the one hand, this seems to become our prerogative as we age. On the other, we could really stop being surprised when those in control of the media demonstrate that they don't really care.

Nor should they. It isn't their fault that we grew up and now hold them to a much higher standard...

Re:This is a travesty (1)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 4 years ago | (#29799385)

*Movie X* was such an influential part of my childhood. You can't just take *X* hours of a series and cram it into a movie without losing everything magical about it. There's just too much compromise moving from *medium X* to the movies. And changing *minor element X* to *minor element Y* just proves that point. This is one movie I will definitely claim not to see. The graphics look pretty good though.

Fuck *X*. I can't believe you like that shit. Epic n00bage.

Re:This is a travesty (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29804037)

X was my most fond memory growing up. I used to cry at the end when Q and Y: fell in love/died/went back to their home planet.

Now they changed the ending so: Y isn't even in it anymore, and Q just eats product-placement burger/is fitted for artificial hand/drives off in soon-to-be-merchandised-as-a-toy futuristic car.

See also: They don't make ---- like they used to.

fi8st (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29795375)

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Manga or Marvel? (0, Offtopic)

butabozuhi (1036396) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795493)

What's been more successful? Marvel adaptations or Manga? DC or Darkhorse for that matter?

I will always remember (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29795525)

Calvin running around shirtless with crisco in his hair.

They can't take that away from me.

"Flushed Away" - sounds about right. (1)

Animats (122034) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795745)

If this had been done by Hayao Miyazaki, the director of "Spirited Away", it might have been good. He does kids as lead characters very well. But Miyazaki doesn't need to do remakes. He can develop original concepts.

The director of "Flushed Away"? Much lower down the food chain.

For a good cartoon remake, see Tex Avery's Red Hot Riding Hood. [youtube.com]

Re:"Flushed Away" - sounds about right. (1)

JDAustin (468180) | more than 4 years ago | (#29795883)

QFT. My 6 year old daughter has seen all th epixar releases and disney movies but Ponyo is her favorite movie.

Re:"Flushed Away" - sounds about right. (1)

abigsmurf (919188) | more than 4 years ago | (#29799583)

Miyazaki would never direct a full CGI film, nor should he.

"stuff that matters" news for nerds (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29796267)

I sincerely wonder if this is the right kind of "nerd" content for slashdot. Animations are fun for about 15 seconds, but I'd rather read the stories that aren't a bunch of hollywood crap. you know, the cure for aids, space travel, super computers, human rights... Things that MATTER.

no red gogo boots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29797199)

http://www.dannychoo.com/post/en/10191/Astro+Boy+Movie+Poster.html

Sorry but some of us liked watching a little boy fly around in his underwear with red gogo boots. And you f__ked it up!

No, I'm serious. Yes I really do enjoy that, and yes he supposedly wears slacks. Slacks.

And he's not shirtless, either. He wears a windbreaker.

Is because a half naked cartoon robot boy would turn us all into raving child molesters?

These guys would have adapted Wonder Woman's costume into a burkah

F__k this astro-boy movie.

Anyone else... (2, Insightful)

Thelasko (1196535) | more than 4 years ago | (#29797567)

see the trailer and think it was for a Mega Man movie?

Yes, but I wonder... (1)

Burning1 (204959) | more than 4 years ago | (#29801329)

I wonder if, in 1987 someone playing Mega Man for the first time would have wondered if it was a video game adaption of Astro Boy?

At the end of the movie... (1)

kitezh (1442937) | more than 4 years ago | (#29797699)

Do we get to hear Astro's report and pick out the things that are wrong?

Watching the proles on parade (1)

rpresser (610529) | more than 4 years ago | (#29798401)

Will the Buggles song be on the soundtrack?

Do not touch at Tezuka's work (2, Interesting)

FornaxChemica (968594) | more than 4 years ago | (#29801571)

I don't want to write this message, but I have to, because I'm an avid reader of Osamu Tezuka, because I think he's one of the greatests authors among all creative arts and because this movie adaptation, judging from the trailer, is nothing short of a blasphemy.

They didn't need to make that film, they could have come up with their own robot teen hero instead of pillaging Tezuka's ideas and sculpting them into a run-of-the-mill cartoon comedy with cool kids. This is exactly what it's going to be, you just have to hear some of the lines, the delivery or see a few of the situations to know what you're getting into. This is the killing of a Japanese icon on the altar of aseptic filmmaking and inept storytelling with all the odious cliches we've been enduring film after film in American cinema for the past 10 years or more.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's bad because it's a production from the US; I love American films, I love good American films. It's bad because Astro Boy, like any other Tezuka work, has so much personality and such a unique Japanese identity that if you stray from it, you're not only losing what makes it so special but you're trashing it. Tezuka could be grandiose and grotesque, humane and merciless, profound and foolish, all this in the few pages of a single story. This is precious, rare, a delight to read. Even if Astro Boy is the lighter side of his vast work, it still should be handled with great care and pertinence, which was obviously not the intention of the filmmakers: their goal was just to make it cool and trendy for modern audiences as to rake money, not critical praise from his fans and admirers.

Even though the story is completely different from the original manga, Metropolis (2001), a Japanese animation film, is certainly more faithful to Tezuka's style and spirit. Rin Taro and Katsuhiro Otomo (author of Akira, who wrote the script) perfectly grasped what made Tezuka's stories so inspiring and beautiful, the vulnerability and complexity of his characters behind the apparent simplicity. And they preserved the original drawing style! Yes, it was daring, but it was right. This is Tezuka, this is how his stories look and read, like it or not, but if you don't, leave them alone instead of trying to mend what you don't comprehend.

Re:Do not touch at Tezuka's work (0, Troll)

superalias (1200873) | more than 4 years ago | (#29803407)

Grow up. Astro Boy is as one-dimensional a character as any you'll find in kids' cartoons –which is fine, it's a fun cartoon, not an epic of literature. He does not have "so much personality" in Tezuka's works. He does not have "a unique Japanese identity" (whatever the hell that means). Don't want the movie? Then don't watch it, and stick to the comic books. Or get off your lazy arse and make a better Astro Boy movie. Or at the very least, actually SEE the movie before deciding that it's an unholy desecration of a cartoon character.

Re:Do not touch Tezuka's work (1)

FornaxChemica (968594) | more than 4 years ago | (#29805873)

Everything you said is true or consistent and this is why I didn't want to write a message in the first place, because it's so easy to dismiss what I said, perhaps rightfully, as the overstated ranting of the inevitable narrow-minded fanboy. I haven't even seen the movie and just basing my argument on a trailer, for Pete's sake!

In some cases, trailers tell you all you need to know, but regardless of that, what I meant by Japanese identity is that Astro as it is could not have come from a different country. Or if it did, it would have been altogether different and surely not as peculiar and charismatic; its about cultural identity and how it imprints on the artist's work. You can't deny popular culture from Japan has its own, strong personality; whenever artists from a different country try to write a story in a manga form, it never feels quite right, the dynamics are wrong and it fails to engross the reader. The filmmakers of Astro Boy seem to have turned the original characters and narratives into stereotypes of American animated movies. Just have a look at the characters they added. Why didn't they keep Tamao and Shibugaki, the clumsy kid with big glasses and the stupid bully? Because they didn't fit in THEIR vision of Astro Boy. But every bit they remove from the original is not just a detail, it's a component part of Astro Boy and a reason why people loved it.

(sorry for the typo in the title)

Re:Do not touch Tezuka's work (1)

superalias (1200873) | more than 4 years ago | (#29870117)

I'm from the US, and live in Japan, spending almost exactly half my life in each place. And I simply don't agree one whit about "unique national cultural identity" claims, at least in broad general brushes. How about specifics, then, such as specific elements of this particular film? I don't know, since I haven't seen it. But how would we decide which elements belong to individual decisions, and which are due to the "different country" factor? That's's the rarely-considered fatal flaw in most "cultural difference" claims, IMO. But that's far too big a topic for a now-dead Slashdot thread. Even if I personally think such "cultural difference" claims, while fine in principle, tend to be 99% nonsense in practice, I have nothing that constitutes "proof" of this. Similarly, a claim such as "...could not have come from a different country" is opinion (of a popular sort, too), not something that can be proven. Purely a matter of dueling opinions. So be it!

Re:Do not touch at Tezuka's work (1)

Monsieur_F (531564) | more than 4 years ago | (#29805281)

As said somewhere else, you should definetely give a try at Pluto, by Naoki Urasawa, before stopping people from touching Tezuka's work.

Re:Do not touch Tezuka's work (1)

FornaxChemica (968594) | more than 4 years ago | (#29805989)

I had heard of Pluto before but I've never read it. There's a difference though, Naoki Urasawa isn't appropriating Tezuka's universe, it's a reinterpretation, he expands on an existing story, the drawing has nothing in common and it's not even bearing the same title. The film claims to be the Astro Boy. I wasn't outraged when Disney did The Lion King, even though it's supposed to be a rip-off of Jungle Taitei.

Re:Do not touch at Tezuka's work (1)

lotsotech (848683) | more than 4 years ago | (#29806805)

You seem to have an overly strong bias for the purity of Japanese production over American. Last I checked Studio Ghibli completely destroys any source material they can get their hands on. In fact any Anime adaptation of a western IP has always been hugely divergent from the source. I'll just throw Howl's Moving Castle and Earthsea out there.

"We took it to Japan and..." (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#29805779)

We took it to Japan and there was a little bit of reluctance on their part because it was perceived as a foreigner taking over one of their properties. But in truth, everybody who saw it loved it.

More like they were put off by the designs and character behaviors that derive relatively little real lineage from Tezuka's iconic originals, and were about as amused to watch this foreign reinterpretation as Westerners are of Engrish. They could have done a 15FPS 2D shakycam Fred Hembeck funky-kneed production and it would have received the same reaction from the Japanese, because in reality what they are thinking is "You are fucking crazy for having done what you just did, so thanks for the laughs." IOW, "at you, not with you."

See also Japanese opinion of the Robotech original sequels, Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers The Movie, Dragonball Evolution, Street Fighter The Movie, Super Mario Bros., etc.

It is for this reason that I am REALLLLLLLY hoping that a Western-produced Evangelion movie eventually comes out. Not that I would actually watch it (or any of the above mentioned productions, including this Astro Boy movie); I just love it when the U.S. embarrasses itself on the world pop culture stage and actually takes pride in it.

Tezuka didn't want a remake. *grumble* (1)

Benfea (1365845) | more than 4 years ago | (#29829261)

Even if the Hollywood retards somehow manage to not butcher this one, didn't Tezuka specifically say he didn't want anyone remaking this story? This remake is wrong even if by some miracle it doesn't suck big sweaty donkey testes.
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