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MythTV 0.22 Released

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the excess-of-caution dept.

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uyguremre writes "After a little over a year and a half in the making, the developers of MythTV announced that MythTV 0.22 is now available. There have been a lot of large changes since 0.21, including a port from Qt v3 to Qt v4 and a major UI rewrite to convert to MythTV's new MythUI user interface libary. As always, this release adds support for some new hardware, in this case VDPAU video acceleration, DVB-S2, and the Hauppauge HD-PVR. The MythUI toolkit allows themes much greater control over the user interface and today we're announcing a competition to design new themes for MythTV. With the new release comes a theming competition too. For a more complete list of changes and new features, read the Release Notes on the wiki."

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upnp (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028414)

can we stream hulu over upnp yet?

Re:upnp (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028626)

fuck hulu. yo mama can stream a basketball through a garden hose.

niggers, coons, jigs. in that order, that's who we can thank for yo mama jokes. when black history month rolls around, be sure to remember this and the many other contributions african-americans have made to society, like wefare mamas and gangsta rap and jesse jackson and encouraging the youth to be violent thugs.

what's the most confusing day in harlem? father's day. and somehow that's the fault of racism. i guess you libs think that black men go around thinking "well, that racist hates me because i'm black. i better abandon my bastard children now cuz after all that guy's a racist." if they wanted to do somethin about racism they'd live in such a way so as to prove it wrong.

mythtv website (1)

BeefMcHuge (1594193) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028466)

mythtv website got /.ed it would seem.

Re:mythtv website (1, Troll)

pelrun (25021) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028910)

Why oh why is it so hard for people to stick .nyud.net onto urls so they get coral cached before submitting them to slashdot? You people are supposed to be smart!

Too bad Linux is for faggots. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028468)

If you are a Linux-loving faggot, mod me down.

Re:Too bad Linux is for faggots. (5, Funny)

ldj (726828) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028506)

Balmer, quit kidding around. Don't you have work to do?

Re:Too bad Linux is for faggots. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028672)

Wow, that's so original. I wish I could be as witty as you, but yes you're right. If you think Linux users are world class assholes then you MUST be working for Microsoft. Right? Hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

Re:Too bad Linux is for faggots. (1, Insightful)

Thinboy00 (1190815) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028720)

Are you high? What drug is that? Where can I get some (note to the humorless feds: I am kidding)?

Re:Too bad Linux is for faggots. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029306)

"Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics... Even if you win, you're still retarded."

Re:Too bad Linux is for faggots. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029140)

Balmer, quit kidding around. Don't you have work to do?

You missunderstood the title, he loves Linux he just wishes it appealed to a wider audience than just his circle of friends.

Re:Too bad Linux is for faggots. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029146)

Or chairs to throw :-P

Not important (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028478)

So Slashdot posts something every time some open source project has a new release? Who cares.

Re:Not important (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028500)

uhhh...in case you haven't figured it out, that's kind of the roots of slashdot. But as a feminist, I certainly agree that they don't necessarily focus on the right issues, such as gender roles in computing, programming languages designed by women, breastfeeding keyboard layouts, etc.

Re:Not important (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028520)

err.. How do you breastfeed a keyboard layout?

does anyone still use it? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028514)

Not trying to create flamebait, But honestly does anyone still use it. Everyone I know has ditched it (including the die hard fans that put me onto it in the first place) due to the hideous complexities in keeping the damn thing running and the endless complaints from "she who must be obeyed" because MythTV box has once again died in the arse during her favourite POS drama show. personally I use XBMC now.

Re:does anyone still use it? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028560)

Given XBMC is not a DVR, and MythTV is, yes, those of us who don't steal our content still use MythTV.

Re:does anyone still use it? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028634)

I wonder if you and your buddies use an ad blocker ?

Re:does anyone still use it? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028778)

Given XBMC is not a DVR, and MythTV is, yes, those of us who don't steal our content still use MythTV.

If you going to be a retard and insult people. At least do your basic research first. heres some hints for you to google. hdhomerun TV Scheduler Pro.

Re:does anyone still use it? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028802)

So... running an external scheduling and recording application and watching it in XBMC makes XBMC a DVR? Wow, I guess that means mplayer, VLC, windows media player, ffplay, and everyone else are DVRs too! Wow, DVRs sure are a crowded field!

Re:does anyone still use it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028946)

no it doesn't, but running XBMC certainly doesn't make him a content thief like the guy responding to him implied.

Re:does anyone still use it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029170)

Implying it's a 1-to-1 replacement sure suggests it to be the case, though...

Re:does anyone still use it? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028854)

GP, you tried not to make flamebait, but it looks like you fried up a bath of it.

Re:does anyone still use it? (1, Interesting)

rtb61 (674572) | more than 4 years ago | (#30029240)

Technically speaking as XMBC main forte seems to be media shifting which is allowed under fair use versus MythTV which records transmitted content (as well as media shifting) which typical is not allowed, then MythTV is more the tool of the, avast yeah 'lan'lubbers.

Being a bit 'slack' I am still curious as to where you can buy off the shelf HTPC linux based and either or both XMBC or MythTV running.

Re:does anyone still use it? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029296)

When the hell did recording TV become not allowed? Or are you and your argument just full of shit?
And I am positive that all of the media being played on XMBC was purchased for that fair use media shifting right?

Re:does anyone still use it? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029280)

Don't understand how XBMC = Stealing content. I use XBMC exclusively as a frontend to view mythtv recordings, just find the GUI in mythtv cumbersome and slow.
Also mythtv is not very good on other media content, like music.

Re:does anyone still use it? (4, Informative)

nick0909 (721613) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028620)

I have had it running via knoppmyth for a year, which I believe ran Myth .20 and just last week upgraded to Mythbuntu running a .22 pre-release version. It works great as a DVR, and the recent upgrades and changes have made it even better. I don't have many issues at all, and really enjoy the web frontend that lets me adjust my recordings, files, settings and schedules. A few friends have Windows media PCs and one is looking hard at switching over because their machine has gotten no innovation in the past two years while Myth has continued to improve.

Re:does anyone still use it? (2, Informative)

schon (31600) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028628)

I still use it.

It's not without it's warts, but they're pretty easily hidden, and my wife and daughter both love it.

I've never used XBMC - how good it it's PVR capabilities? For scheduling does it support Schedules Direct, or some other listings service (or does it require screen-scraping of some sort?)

Re:does anyone still use it? (2, Informative)

pezmanlou (1321569) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028820)

XBMC won't record your tv shows, but it does act as a basic frontend. It can connect to a MythTV backend and stream live tv and recordings (without a plugin).

Re:does anyone still use it? (1)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028882)

And as a consequence, it doesn't allow you to manipulate the recording schedule from your TV, resolve conflicts, view your guide data, find programs, or basically anything else that makes a DVR useful.

So as a basic FE, yes, XBMC could work. But it can't replace a proper Myth FE.

Re:does anyone still use it? (1)

pezmanlou (1321569) | more than 4 years ago | (#30029070)

True, it's not too fancy. However, XBMC is not meant to be a DVR. It just plays lots of video from lots of places. I just like having the ability to stay in XBMC and still be able to stream video from my mythtv backend.

Re:does anyone still use it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029102)

And as a consequence, it doesn't allow you to manipulate the recording schedule from your TV, resolve conflicts, view your guide data, find programs, or basically anything else that makes a DVR useful.

but then neither does MythTV as it is more often then not in a non functional state. XBMC plus whatever backend your using is still infinitely more stable and reliable than MythTV and I will take that combo any day over the constant moaning and complaining I had from the family when I was using Myth.

Re:does anyone still use it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029266)

I've been using MythTV binaries from the rpmfusion repo on top of Fedora, at three different family houses: one attached to a satellite TV set-top box via analog capture/mpeg encoder, one attached to an analog cable via a tuner card, and one attached to an antenna with an ATSC tuner card. I have been using the schedulesdirect programming data for two years with these setups. Each house has a simple single system configuration with back-end and front-end on the same computer.

I have even taken the systems through Fedora upgrades via yum upgrade, with only minor disruption (carrying forward all the MythTV database config content). I even did this on one of the systems which started out as ATrpms on top of Fedora and is now rpmfusion on Fedora. I've never compiled MythTV myself.

The only issues I have encountered were driver issues: The lirc driver for my MCE USB remote control failed to enable the IR-blaster to control the set-top box one time after a yum upgrade, which added a new (but broken) lirc driver in the Fedora kernel; The integrated Intel graphics controller on my latest system has been slowly getting better at HDTV playback as the drivers in Linux and X.org improve.

Re:does anyone still use it? (2, Informative)

BLKMGK (34057) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028878)

XBMC is a media front-end, it has NO recording capabilities nor will it apparently. Rather than reinventing the wheel the developers intend to make it easy to interface with other back-ends, including Myth. As front-ends go though it ROCKS and I am able to access all of my MP3, DVD\BD rips (MKV), and many streaming audio stations. I look forward to XBMC getting some MAME support (pretty please), and for there being some sort of back-end PVR thing for it to interface with...

Re:does anyone still use it? (5, Informative)

gregmac (629064) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028924)

I tried using XBMC on an Asrock ION 330 as a frontend for a while. Basically, it looks amazing (especially compared to Myth 0.21), and has some nice things like animations. It was dirt simple to get working with the hardware, including an MCE remote (as in, I basically had to do nothing).

The bad: it's not a DVR at all. It has half-baked myth backend support - in that it is supposed to understand the streams and be able to play content. However, you have to go into a menu item called "Scripts" and then start "Mythtv" from a list there, before navigating to recordings. It has no support for scheduling or doing anything besides playing back recordings. I ended up just making it look directly at the Recordings directory on my myth box and playing back files from there (note, I use a script there to symlink the mythtv recording files to their actual names).

The ugly: Due to the high potential, I started digging in more to see if there was anything I could do to help out, such as work on the myth backend support. What I found is that entire project has been mothballed, and they are working on a grandios rewrite of a generic PVR layer, and then later on top of that will have Mythtv support. Not a TERRIBLE plan, but 1) it's a huge plan, that will take a long time before it is even remotely usable, 2) it means the PVR has to be lowest common denominator support, combined based on what all the PVR backends they support have. It also means the devs are rejecting patches to the existing myth support, because it is not relevant in the wake of the new PVR backend.

On top of that, the architecture is sadly lacking. With apologize to XBMC devs, as I'm about to call your baby ugly, but It very much shows its organic and basic roots. The actual menu items are hardcoded into the theme, and intertwined with the code in the back. To do something that should be simple, like add another menu item to the main menu, from what I can tell you have to: 1) modify the core code to understand the command, 2) modify the theme to add in the button - which includes changing the x,y coordinates of all buttons below that one that now need to be shifted, and adjusting the animation code so it knows the positions of all the buttons. It's possible it is simpler than that (I didn't actually try), but from looking at the code, that's what it looked like to me, and so I lost interest due to the amount of effort and non-reusability (eg, my Mythtv button wouldn't be accepted as a patch, and I'd have to redo this anytime I installed an update).

Re:does anyone still use it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029190)

It's not without it's warts, but they're pretty easily hidden, and my wife and daughter both love it.

Wait, what?

Re:does anyone still use it? (2, Interesting)

0123456 (636235) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028660)

Not trying to create flamebait, But honestly does anyone still use it.

Yes. It's buggy and configuration is horrendous, but now it's going the only real problem I have is that it tends not to update the database properly when a table changes in a new version (e.g. mythbuntu seems to assume that you don't have a root password on the MySQL database).

That said, I'm not going to be upgrading to 0.22 until the current season of my girlfrend's favorite shows finishes, because I'll be in trouble if she misses some due to software changes.

Re:does anyone still use it? (1)

Dalroth (85450) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028780)

I ran MythTV for six years. The last year I've used SageTV. I got sick of MythTV locking up, crashing, and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right.

SageTV isn't much better. I spend a lot less time twiddling, but it crashes and freezes about as often as MythTV used to. I'm still looking for that HTPC that just works. I haven't found it yet.

Re:does anyone still use it? (5, Informative)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028866)

I ran MythTV for six years. The last year I've used SageTV. I got sick of MythTV locking up, crashing, and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right.

SageTV isn't much better. I spend a lot less time twiddling, but it crashes and freezes about as often as MythTV used to. I'm still looking for that HTPC that just works. I haven't found it yet.

You sure these aren't hardware-related problems? I've had a dual-tuner, split FE/BE Myth system running for, oh... two years now?... with absolutely no problems. Any crashes I've had occurred early on, and have been hardware related (ie, hard disks failing), or problems with Linux itself (XFS+LVM causing hardlocks, bugs in ivtv resulting in tuners dying, etc). 'course, it helps that once I had a working configuration, I didn't touch it at all (ie, no OS updates, etc).

As for fiddling... honestly, I have no idea what you're doing with your system that requires that kind of care and attention. Again, I've been running a Myth system for two years, and it's required basically zero care and feeding once I got the system up and running and working the way I wanted (granted, that took a bit of time early on, particularly on the frontend, getting third-party software working right, tweaking the remote configuration, etc).

Re:does anyone still use it? (2, Insightful)

Windowser (191974) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028898)

I got sick of MythTV locking up, crashing, and the constant non-stop twiddling with my configuration because I could never get things quite right.

SageTV isn't much better. I spend a lot less time twiddling, but it crashes and freezes about as often as MythTV used to. I'm still looking for that HTPC that just works. I haven't found it yet.

I have one MythTV backend in my server closet, plus 2 frontend in my house. I never fiddle with the settings, and the server keeps running and recording the shows we tell it to. It never seem to crash.

Since you have the same crashing with SageTV and MythTV, I would be tempted to say that the only point in common those 2 have is : YOU.
I would not let you touch my setup

Re:does anyone still use it? (2, Interesting)

gregmac (629064) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028974)

I'm going through the same. I've been using Myth for maybe 3 or 4 years (starting with 0.20-beta something). It was relatively stable, but did crash once in a while. Mostly what was driving me insane is for the past few months, it would stop responding to the remote for a few minutes, then suddenly play back everything that just happened. So you'd hit fast-forward, and nothing would happen.. hit a couple more times... then suddenly a few minutes later, it would skip forward several times. Lirc was seeing the commands in realtime, so I have no idea what the problem was. It was intermittent, and I never found a common thing that was happening at the same time.

I've built a new Windows box now, and I'm currently trying GBPVR, and SageTV. Myth's UI is better than SageTV's.. GBPVR is a lot like myth. Myth has better recording options than both. Sage has sub-$200 fanless network client hardware, which has the same UI as the main box - this is a HUGE plus. You can't build a PC for that price, let alone a silent PC, and any other options have a different UI which is just annoying. Myth is the only one I know of that supports multiple backends (not needed for me now, but it's a sign of a good design and allows expandability).

Taking away constraints of OS/software, there is just no solution that leads to a great networked PVR system out there yet, in my opinion. To clarify, I'm not looking for a HTPC - I want a UI, consistent on every TV in my house, that lets me watch live TV (not that I ever do that), watch and/or schedule recordings (and have any available on any TV), watch DVDs, watch downloaded movies/shows, listen to music (both stored and streaming), and things like pictures and weather reports are kinda handy too.

Re:does anyone still use it? (2, Informative)

nachomama (77004) | more than 4 years ago | (#30029066)

My MythTV setup crashed a 2-3 times per week for several months. I eventually discovered that it was the Linux driver for my StreamZap LIRC receiver. I replaced it with a serial-based receiver, and haven't had a crash since.

What I'm saying, it's probably a hardware/driver problem, not a MythTV problem.

Re:does anyone still use it? (2, Interesting)

BLKMGK (34057) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028862)

I'd use it WITH XBMC once the Myth backend is a bit easier to configure. As it stands now I'm more than happy to DL my TV content - and yes I still have a damned cable sub with premiums and a TIVO attached to it. I just find that torrenting a show is easier and quicker. This is no more "theft" than running Myth with an ad removal program IMO.

Anyway, I understand the pain of setting up a Myth box having TRIED to do it myself. Maybe time to try again? Many folks I know are using Windows for much the same thing and it seems easier once you hurdle the DRM crap - they even remove commercials too. If Myth has gotten better terrific, I'll look again and figure out how to tie it to my XBMC system. Sadly I'll be stuck with OTA stuff but that's better than nothing. Overseas Myth is probably more popular because they can apparently hook it into SAT systems and get more content than we're stuck with here...

Re:does anyone still use it? (2, Insightful)

mtdean (186578) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028904)

I'd use it WITH XBMC once the Myth backend is a bit easier to configure. As it stands now I'm more than happy to DL my TV content - and yes I still have a damned cable sub with premiums and a TIVO attached to it. I just find that torrenting a show is easier and quicker. This is no more "theft" than running Myth with an ad removal program IMO.

You do realize you're paying for cable TV /service/, right? You don't become rights holder to everything broadcast on cable TV just by having a cable TV subscription.

Agreed - Just Being Honest (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029052)

I hope it's not considered "flamebait" to have some constructive criticism and color commentary of how various software projects are going. Well, let's find out, as I try to explain what has historically awaited the mythtv user.

MythTV has basically been a trick on people who wanted a DVR. It has great screenshots, a wonderful feature list, and when started, it sometimes even _appears_ to work. Then you try to use it. Hilarious really.

The myth developer inner circle (Isaac, etc) spent several years and could not get MPEGs (from TV or DVDs) playing reliably. Of course, they would never dream of reusing any of the mountains of code that do this correctly already. Perhaps this was not considered important in a DVR. To make their UI, they stitched together a flickery, non-responsive interface in qt, complete with the world's most painful and buggy music player, and a metadata management interface designed to conceal from the novice that perl scripts and SQL commands are going to be part of your life. For extra fun, and to fill out the feature list, their little potemkin village includes things like a DVD ripper and a netflix queue management front-end. If you are in the mood for laughs, try using one of these for their intended function.

Yes, in this release they finally refactored some of that in late 2009 - honing the trick even further. Since by now their reputation precedes them, they need to make bizarre failures, crashes, and pathetic video performance issues slightly less frequent and more subtle. Throw in a few more bits of unreliable graphical flair, just to lure a few more suckers. Don't worry - you will still come to your mythbuntu machine and find it displaying yesterday's date - once again proving the on-screen clock to be the most reliable part of the system - for determining when you crashed.

It's actually quite understandable why their code would be a complete wreck for so many years on end - they had to devote all their energy to a scheme to charge myth users for TV schedule information. Priorities.

Not that any of these problems were noticed much, since over the past few years, most of the underlying drivers for both video capture and display have been in such a pathetic state that, should someone insist that Linux is stable or performant, you simply assign them the task of using it to record and play back television - with hilarious results.

Oh yes, "it's better now" - with the bar as low as it was, this is not really a very meaningful statement. :)

Thinking of making a linux DVR with mythtv? Run, run for the hills.

Re:does anyone still use it? (2, Interesting)

Max Littlemore (1001285) | more than 4 years ago | (#30029148)

I've been running it for ages without major problems. The only problem I have is every time I upgrade the kernel I need to rebuild the driver for my tuner, but that's no biggy - got that scripted - and it's nothing to do with MythTV per se.

Sure, it was a bitch to set up the first time, but since then it's been stable and awesome and having done it once, I'm pretty quick at setting it up for others.

I too use XBMC, but only as a quick and dirty way of using an Xbox as a frontend. It just doesn't come close as a PVR.

Re:does anyone still use it? (1)

fatmatt_oz (680839) | more than 4 years ago | (#30029184)

yes, the community is pretty active from what I've seen. I've had mythtv running for 6 or 7 years and it's become a lot easier to set up. I think a lot of the noise about complaints from SWMBO you're talking about probably comes from mythtv being the entry into the linux world for a lot of people, people who are trying to learn a new OS as well as the intricacies of a fairly complex bit of software. The linux users I know who use it have really only had issues getting drivers/modules for dvb hardware that they thought was supported but after purchase find out the manufacturer has changed the chip types but not the model number! Most other issues they've had have been more general linux problems that manifested themselves in mythtv. When I first set up myth there was no equivalent available commercially with all the features myth has. Combined with the usefulness of having a home server (filestore, ssh tunnels when I'm traveling, web based recording setup and a bunch of other stuff) I still don't think that there's something commercially available or windows based that would be able to replace it for me.

Re:does anyone still use it? (1)

tylernt (581794) | more than 4 years ago | (#30029264)

I still use it, and it's reliable, but the 40 hours it took me to get this older version working has left me so scarred I don't dare do anything that might destabilize it (like upgrading). For me the upgrade path will be buying a whole new computer and capture device and spending another three weeks configuring the new version while I still have the old one working.

Have they fixed the behavior yet that you have to completely shut down your backend service in order to run the setup program to do a channel scan to find new channels? Because it sure would be nice to do that from your frontend without downtime. Especially when your backend is a headless box.

I know I shouldn't complain about free software, but my time isn't free and setting it up sure seemed to take a lot of it.

after two YEARS trying to get MythTV working... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028576)

I've been able to chase many bugs/complexities/installation issues down, but I simply can't get it working. Right now I'm battling some time-out/buffering error on the HD capture stream watching live tv over pci-e on an HDR-1250. I really want it to work. I'd love to load all my kids movies up on it and turn it loose on the home theater. But the dang thing *just* *doesn't* *work*.

Re:after two YEARS trying to get MythTV working... (1, Interesting)

BLKMGK (34057) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028926)

Rip the kid's DVD to a NAS in ISO format, something like unRAID will work fine or whatever SMB thing you're willing to roll. Hell NFS might work too. Anyway, get the kid's stuff onto spinning storage. The load up XBMC on something small and cheap like an ASROCK ION 330 - run Ubuntu with VDPAU. Slap an MCE remote on it, plug it into the TV and stereo, be happy. I have done this and can access ALL of my DVDs. Instead of having racks lining my hallway the DVD are now in boxes and no one is the wiser as to the extensive collection. I can pull up any of hundreds of DVD just fine. My BD have been ripped and converted to MKV files, takes less than 2 hours a movie on my I7, longer on slower boxes but worth it.

XBMC may not be a DVR but if you have many disks around and you worry about theft or damage it's a godsend. I just wish the Linux version played games like the old XBOX version did :-D

Is there any viable (non-console) alternative? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028600)

MythTV seems stagnated in development, even with this release, and seems bulky and awkward. Are there any other viable alternatives for home TV boxes/media boxes, that *don't* include a console in any way (xbox media centre, PS3, Wii, etc...)

Re:Is there any viable (non-console) alternative? (2, Interesting)

jrumney (197329) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028696)

Freevo is similarly stagnated, they've been working towards 2.0 for years. VDR handles the backend, but is lacking a nice 10-ft frontend. Moovida looks promising but is currently lacking a TV recording backend (combined with VDR, it may be the ideal solution).

I'm currently using Freevo, but starting to become frustrated at the broken plugins and limitations in its input (can't assign events to Ctrl key sequences which are generated by some of the Windows Media Centre oriented media keys on my wireless keyboard). The fact that MythTV requires MySQL and Qt and apparently is even more difficult to set up than Freevo (hard to believe) has kept me from considering a switch to MythTV seriously, though it does seem to have more of a following than any of the other contenders.

Re:Is there any viable (non-console) alternative? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029200)

XBMC Media center (it is no longer xbox media center) is able to run on Linux, mac, windows, apple tv (mac variant.. right?) .. and changes are mostly being still pushed to the xbox version, but I think most of the devs target regular x86 pc .. with the largest portion targeting ubuntu.

.01 Really? (5, Insightful)

Telvin_3d (855514) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028604)

So, let's get this right, in this update they have:
- Major back-end changes
- Major UI rewrite
- Significant new hardware support
- Also, apparently a more powerful themes toolkit

And this isn't even worth a .1 version increment. It's a .01

Really, if the version numbers are going to be this meaningless for tracking significant changes they should at least name them or come up with some other system. Something that let's people get interested and involved in the project and excited about the new release.

Re:.01 Really? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028642)

I was under the impression that people got interested and involved because of... well, the list of fancy new features. If it was called "Dastardly DVR," think it would somehow improve it?

In that case, it's actually MythTV Eleventy Thrillion, Titty Tivo!

Re:.01 Really? (5, Insightful)

Telvin_3d (855514) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028886)

Well, let's put it another way. Say you tried it at .20 and found that it was interesting but still too rough for your needs. Now, you are browsing around and see in passing that the current version is .22. Now, based on that .02 difference do you think that it has gone through major changes and deserves a second look or has it just been tweaked a little?

No, don't go overboard. It doesn't need to be silly but it does need to provide a realistic feel of how the project is progressing. If your release notes are including the words 'major' and 'significant' and 'large changes' and 'major rewrite' it might be a good clue that it's worth going up by an entire .1

Or since I'm sure all these didn't happen over night or perfectly in sync it may have called for some internal development releases that would have this public release be 2.5 or something.

Or, yes, give it a name. It works for Ubuntu.

.01 and the TV Myth (5, Funny)

syousef (465911) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028768)

Clearly you haven't dealt with MythTV. The myth is that you get to watch and record TV. The reality is you spend all your time fiddling with it and cursing at it until your head is so bloody from banging it up against a brick wall that you give up and decide to give up TV altogether.

Re:.01 and the TV Myth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029188)

I've given up trying to get MythTV running twice now. Each attempt to get MythTV running took about a month of my life's quiet unoccupied time (a day here, a few hours there). All spent and no mythTV. I need a different option. MythTV installation is the OPPOSITE of what linux needs. And it has the potential to be the killer App because windows people love TV and there's no free answer for windows, either.

Re:.01 and the TV Myth (5, Funny)

dgatwood (11270) | more than 4 years ago | (#30029206)

The reality is you spend all your time fiddling with it and cursing at it until your head is so bloody from banging it up against a brick wall that you give up and decide to give up TV altogether.

Close. The reality is that you spend so much time banging your head up against a brick wall that you just think you're watching TV.

Re:.01 Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028782)

You mean version 0.1 will play my bluray collection?
I'm in!

Re:.01 Really? (1)

Captain Segfault (686912) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028826)

Their numbering scheme is incremented in .01's. It would not be consistent with their scheme to increment by .10.

Although I agree -- if they aren't close to a 1.0 they should consider moving to a two-dot system ("0.2.3") which would make it clearer when a release has large destabilizing changes.

Re:.01 Really? (1)

Anaerin (905998) | more than 4 years ago | (#30029062)

The only "Numbered Releases" they release are stable, supported versions. If you wish to try a bleeding-edge development version, you check out the source from SVN trunk, making sure you subscribe to the -dev and -commit mailing lists to stay abreast of the current state of the tree. So, by releasing 0.22, they are saying "This is the latest version of the tree that we guarantee is stable, and will support/fix, since 0.21."

Each release will do it's best to upgrade an existing environment if possible, and will back up settings/database configuration before attempting the upgrade, so changes can be rolled back.

As for the FUD about having to configure ffmpeg/Qt/XvMC/DirectFB/DirectX etc., ./configure will detect what you have installed (Qt 4 is a requirement, as is Xv (for a frontend, which should be a part of your video driver anyway)). All the other libraries (XvMC, VDPAU, OpenGL, JACK/ARTS/ALSA/OSS, IVTV, DVB/ATSC) are all optional. If you wish to use them, you must have them installed correctly, but beyond that, there is no other need to do anything special. A standard "./configure && make && sudo make install" will build and install a working setup, that you can then tweak and modify to your heart's content.

The "Problem" came because MythTV is a complex piece of software, that can make use of a lot of subsystems within Linux, and requires them all to be working properly. Given Linux's previously troublesome driver support for some hardware, it's understandable why MythTV has got a bad name, but drivers and libraries have matured much since 0.19 (The last really problematic release). And with MythTV distros (Like KnoppMyth, MythDora, MythBuntu and LinHES), things are much easier than ever before.

Re:.01 Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028830)

Seriously man, it's just a number. Version numbering is just made up by some human programers for a release to convey a notion of a fixed release for other humans. You seem to think a 1.0 release means stable or that a 1.2 release necessary conveys anything other than some people decided to call it 1.2. In this case some people decided to call it .22. Cool.

Re:.01 Really? (1)

coldmist (154493) | more than 4 years ago | (#30029076)

It's just a number. Really.

Would it matter if it was going from version 2007 to 2009 (like MS office)? That's only a 0.1% change. At least .21 to .22 is a 4.5% change!

Re:.01 Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029292)

It is a .1 increment. Try looking up how Polynomials work.

Can't wait for 1.0 (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028618)

It should be amazing by then!

Re:Can't wait for 1.0 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30028836)

Yeah, like gazillion times better then WMC-7!
And sure enough it will finally support HDCP, 'cause without HDCP it is almost useless.
(no, my grans can't rip blurays from CLI)

database (3, Interesting)

visualight (468005) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028638)

Did they fix the database encoding in this one?

Re:database (1)

Thinboy00 (1190815) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028770)

[from his sig]
Boycott Hollywood during December 2009 [No DVD's for Christmas, no Christmas BlockBusters] Spread the word.

Why, might I ask? (I suppose my sig makes this question kind of ironic/dumb-sounding... What specifically have they done this time?)

Re:database (3, Informative)

swillden (191260) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028930)

Did they fix the database encoding in this one?

That depends on what you mean by "fix".

With MythTV 0.22, the database is expected to be configured with the UTF-8 character set. If you're upgrading a database that has been used with a previous version (which required the database to use the latin1 character set), you need to fix your database [mythtv.org] .

I would guess that if you're using MythTV as packaged by a major distro, by the time your distro delivers 0.22 it will probably handle the character set conversion automatically.

Re:database (2, Interesting)

paul248 (536459) | more than 4 years ago | (#30029224)

Ah, yes, I had to do the "fix your database" thing yesterday. Based on the complexity of the guide, I'm guessing a lot of users will just wipe and reinstall everything, rather than attempt to go through that ridiculous manual process.

I for one welcome... (1, Insightful)

drewzhrodague (606182) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028708)

I for one welcome our MythTV .22 Overlords!

I've been using MythTV for a bunch of years now, and I find it an absolute blast. It works on every PC I can find, and even on my work OSX laptop, which still lets me watch The It's Alive Show [theitsaliveshow.com] while I'm hacking away. It even eats the commercials, and does a better job with digital television signals. I can't wait for multirec support for my HDHomeRun.

If you haven't tried MythTV recently, check it out again.

Re:I for one welcome... (3, Informative)

BLKMGK (34057) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028968)

You were doing great up until that "it works on everything" part. Plenty of folks have pulled their hair out with Myth in the past and you make it sound like a breeze. Look at the numbers of folks posting here that have given up on it and you can plainly see it's far from easy. I for one hope that this version is VERY good but please, the rah rah it works great stuff can be saved - most of us know better having tried it already.

I lent out my HDHR to someone having given up on Myth previously. I have spare hardware though so maybe I'll try it again but if it's half as bad as the last time I'll put it down again. The Myth guys really have an uphill climb convincing people IMO. Myth seems like the epitome of what people have issues with when they talk about Linux. Funky config scripts, hair pulling, things that don't make sense, things that just don't work, picky hardware, painful broken upgrades, the list is long. A new version is great news, lets see if it flies. Call me cautious having been bitten about 5 times previously by this software!

Re:I for one welcome... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029024)

So when you post that it's crap/hard to use/impossible/backwards/etc. it's fact, but when he posts that it works well for him and that he's satisfied, it's "the rah rah it works great stuff" that can be "saved?" What makes his opinion less valid than yours?

Personally, I'm a long time myth user and I love it, in the interest of full disclosure. There's a TON that Myth could do better, but the devs are being very up front, especially lately, about trying to focus on the basic issues of a) easy configuration, b) improved UI, and c) too many settings. "b" was addressed in part this release, with a public effort on "a" and "c" scheduled for the next development cycle. For the first time ever, a release date for the next version has already been announced and the devs have solicited public comment on some of the big plans for a release scheduled for an unheard of 4 months from now. Anyone who has been around MythTV for a while knows what a turnaround that is.

That's not to say that myth's problems are all fixed-- they're not. But his opinion is just as valid, and every bit as true, as yours.

Does it save me from commercials? (1)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028792)

I wonder whether this new release has an option of stripping out commercials from recordings on request. Does it? On prior releases one had to download a script, then go through a number of hops to get it working.

I hope it does and though the site is slashdotted, I thank folks at MythTV for their good work.

Re:Does it save me from commercials? (1)

Slick_W1lly (778565) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028918)

It's done this for a while now - at least if you're in the US. The Brit and Oz commercials don't conform to the 'merikan sorts and I hear it's only about 20% effective. It doesn't help that the developers who work on the commercial stripping are all in the US... :(

But yes - You just set your recording up, click the little button saying 'flag commercials' and another little button somewhere in a playback screen that says 'Skip commercials' and Bob's your uncle...

Re:Does it save me from commercials? (1)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028938)

I wonder whether this new release has an option of stripping out commercials from recordings on request. Does it?

MythTV has had the ability to mark the positions of commercials in a piece of recorded content for ages now. It has not, and AFAIK, continues not to have the ability to automatically cut those commercials straight out of the recorded content. Why? Simple: The commercial stripper is far from perfect. It does a decent job most of the time, but it just as often screws up royally. So you really *don't* want it doing something irreversible to your recordings without active user intervention, which is why the solution has always involved a script and setting up a user job that can be triggered from the FE.

'course, I'm not sure why that's a problem. If you're watching the content on a MythTV FE, you can just tell it to automatically skip commercials, and it'll use the marked positions to skip in real-time. If your goal is to play out the content on another device, you probably want to transcode it, scale it, etc, before transferring it to your device (ie, ipod, etc), at which point you can instruct Myth to cut the commercials out.

Re:Does it save me from commercials? (2, Informative)

Windowser (191974) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028954)

Once the show is recorded, there is a background job flagging the commercials. When I watch a show, I just hit Z to bypass the commercial in a millisecond.
Watching live TV is a pain now because of this !

Re:Does it save me from commercials? (3, Informative)

Techman83 (949264) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028992)

Use a dedicated distro and all the hard work is done for you. Such as LinHES [linhes.org] for example.

Is it still same config nightmare? (5, Insightful)

distantbody (852269) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028848)

Do I still have to f**k around with 100 combinations/restarts of Qt, ffmpeg, XVideo, XvMC, libmpeg2, xv-blit, opengl, xlib, xshm, directfb, directx ...all whilst not being able to see the f**king mouse cursor and having to hit 'next' five times just to change one setting?

Re:Is it still same config nightmare? (1)

paul248 (536459) | more than 4 years ago | (#30029228)

Yep. Still as wonderful as ever!

[Next Next Next Next Next Submit.]

Could be one of the best HD DVRs out there... (2, Interesting)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028874)

Given official Hauppage HD-PVR support, this could be one of the best high-def DVRs out there. Especially when you combine it with an HD Fury2 to convert it to HDMI...

I don't know why the HD-PVR is the only capture card capable of high-def (1080i). HD Fury2 adds HDMI (with HDCP). Sure, it's only 1080i, but how many other high-def capture solutions are out there? For just over $500, you can get one that does HDMI/HDCP as well.

(HD Fury2 converts HDMI to Component or VGA. Sure it's analog, but the HD-PVR only has component inputs).

Especially good for those of us in Canada, where we are forced to use the ultra-crappy cableboxes. (It's why people go to TiVo...).

The HD-PVR hardware is plauged with problems (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029032)

The HD Fury2 + HD-PVR is a beautiful setup when it works, but the HD-PVR's hardware is an unreliable piece of junk.

Leave it running for a few days, (or hours,) recording high-def channels and if the HD-PVR doesn't lock up it'll start recording quarter of the picture. It's the same experience with two different revisions of the hardware, multiple versions of the driver, and with the HD-PVR sitting on a cooling fan. If you have any doubt about it's unprecedented level of crappiness check out NewEgg's reviews of it.

Re:Could be one of the best HD DVRs out there... (1)

Osty (16825) | more than 4 years ago | (#30029222)

Given official Hauppage HD-PVR support, this could be one of the best high-def DVRs out there. Especially when you combine it with an HD Fury2 to convert it to HDMI...

For OTA signals, sure. If you're on cable, ClearQAM is almost dead. Since the FCC granted the ability to encrypt non-premium channels, most cable providers have already done so for everything except locals.

Get back to me when MythTV allows support for CableCard tuners. That's the way of the future. For windows, Win7 got rid of the ridiculous bios requirement for CableCard-capable PCs, which means you no longer have to buy a $2000+ "media center" PC. As long as you have enough CPU, RAM, and an HDCP-capable video card, you can use a CableCard tuner with Win7 MCE. Currently only AMD/ATI have a digital cable tuner available, but Hauppage has said they're working on CableCard tuners and Ceton will have a 4-tuner solution using a single M-Card in Q1 of next year (beta hardware is already out there and working).

Personally, I just got a cheap PC that meets the CableCard requirements, put Win7 on it, and am waiting out the Ceton release. My Comcast DVR is going in the trash (okay, back to Comcast) just as soon as the Ceton tuner is available. Oh yeah, and I don't have to mess about with drivers, libraries, etc. MCE in Win7 just works (which was not always the case).

Hurray for HD Hauppauge Support! (1)

fragMasterFlash (989911) | more than 4 years ago | (#30028892)

So I can finally get support for my Hauppauge HD tuner without compiling super-glitchy drivers? This would be awesome if my cable provider wasn't moving all non local broadcast stations off ClearQAM next month. By the time MythTV rolls out CableCard support online streaming providers will have made it obsolete.

*shakes tiny fist at comcast*

Release Notes (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029030)

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.22 [mythtv.org]

New Features

        * MythTV UI ported to new MythUI library with all new capabilities
        * Added Automatic Prioritization to the scheduler which uses watching behavior to automatically increase priority of shows that are watched close to their recording timeslot over shows that are delayed for longer periods of time. See [16477] for details until the wiki page is populated.
        * Added MPEG-2 support for ConvertX/GO7007 tuners in addition to the existing MPEG-4 support. [16538]
        * Added new jump point for taking a screenshot and corresponding UPnP web method. [16532]. Network control also has this jumppoint [16613]
        * Improved theme caching speed after a "make install" for users who update frequently. [16487]
        * Added support for overriding the audio sampling rate in recording profiles on a per card basis. [16747]
        * Support for the Hauppauge HD-PVR Component Video Recorder
        * Vastly improved channel scanner
        * Fanart, Banner, and coverart support in Watch Recordings
        * VDPAU Video renderer and decoder for hardware accelerated playback of H.264, MPEG-1/2, WMV, and VC-1.
        * Many software deinterlacers are now multithreaded
        * New codec and container support from up-to-date ffmpeg libraries.
        * Add support for DVB-S2 [21318]
        * HDHomeRun multirec support
        * Additional Myth Protocol socket functions, including file upload, deletion, and scanning of storage groups. [19979] [21134] [21156]
        * Adds a popup dialog accessible from the main menu using MENU which allows the system to be shutdown or rebooted [20852]


        * Fixed encoding for various french Astra 19.2E channels. [16792]
        * Various Freesat EIT fixups
        * UK EIT fixup - Adds handling of AD, S, SL and W tags in EIT data [20768]
        * Fixed matching of programs for updating EIT data


        * Add Firewire Vendor & Model ID's for PACE STBs [17149]
        * Add Motorola DCH-3200 vendor ID
        * Add DCT6200 vendor ID
        * Add firewire and channel changing support for the DCX3200 model STB [21514]


        * More exhaustive MIME test [17155]


        * Allows input groups to work properly when each recorder has more than one input and so can be in multiple mutually exclusive input groups. [17172]
        * Add commandline scanner [17175] plus many more changesets
        * Adds option to mythtv-setup to disable automatic database backup before database upgrades [17479] (ensure you do a manual backup before upgrade if this is enabled)
        * Add HD-PVR support [17493]
        * Add support for multiple frontends per DVB adaptor [17832]
        * Add scanning support for DVB-S2 [21317], [21318]
        * Add a spinbox for specifying a value for the "LiveTV Idle Timeout" setting [21378]
        * Channel scanner - add option to set off air channels invisble [21691]
        * Channel scanner - Allow basic channel scanning with DVB version of HDHomeRun [21858]
        * Offer to automatically shutdown backend at start, shows recording status, starts up again on exit [20966]

Video Playback

        * Many DVD playback issues fixed
        * Adds the ability to set the encoding of external subtitles [17550]
        * Add VDPAU support [19165]
        * Add a new cross-platform OpenGL video renderer that provides consistent playback across Linux, Windows XP, Vista and Mac OS X [19535]
        * Enable VDPAU rendering when decoding in software [19535]
        * Extend the filters interface so that we can specify the number of threads a filter may use [20129]
        * Add a CPU based 'interlaced' filter that should synchronise interlaced material to an interlaced display [20299]
        * Adds a vertical stretch mode [20406]
        * Add double rate and multi-thread support to the Kernel deinterlacer [20439]
        * Add support for VDPAU inverse telecine [20741]
        * Add support for VDPAU 'skip chroma deinterlace', noise reduction and sharpen/blur [20742]
        * Look up subtitle files efficiently and allow them to be streamed [20879]
        * Auto letterbox detection (software decoding only) [21472]
        * Add ability to match the display refresh rate with the video framerate [21489]
        * Fix 1080i playback with the OpenGL renderer and software based bob deinterlacing [21707]
        * Fix an a/v sync error when fast forwarding at 5x and higher speeds [21890]


        * Fix bad horizontal scaling of the OSD under certain resolution & dpi combos [19569]
        * Add TV osd menu editor [20037]
        * Allow for different OSD formats for livetv, recordings and mythvideo [20934]

Windows Port

        * Many Windows packager fixes and improvements to get Myth working using MinGW on Windows

Theme Development

        * New Default Theme: Terra
        * New Theme: Graphite [21215]
        * Added ability for menu themes to jump directly to a specific recording group. [16559]
        * Convert all menu themes to mythui
        * Converted blootube, blootube-wide, blootubelite-wide, neon-wide, ProjectGrayhem & ProjectGrayhem-wide menus to mythui [18635]
        * Add a new, "Recording Rules," screen under the "Manage Recordings [21380]
        * Adds the "Media Center" menu theme [21555]
        * Move all the old themes which have not been rewritten for mythui to a new oldthemes directory [21380] NOTE: If no one updates these themes they will eventually be removed.


        * Completely revamped theming engine: MythUI
        * Adds an image reflection effect to MythUI [17123]
        * Allow images to be cropped on all side [17124]
        * Add 'Centre Hold' scrolling style to mythlistbutton [17174]
        * Add a spinbox widget to mythui [17287]
        * Add a checkbox widget to mythui [17413]
        * Add MythUIGroup for grouping widgets [17448]
        * Add Progress bar widget for mythui [17698]
        * Add Busy and Progress dialogs [17700]
        * Add tag to the imagetype [17759]
        * Allow focusorder to be defined for widgets with the use of a 3 element [17800]
        * Add Text input dialog [17945]
        * Add a confirmation dialog [18048]
        * Add MythWebBrowser widget for displaying HTML documents based on QtWebKit [18140]
        * Add a new MythUISearchDialog [18192]
        * Add MythUIButtonTree tree widget [18234]
        * Port Manual Schedule screen to mythui [18551]
        * Add on the fly disk caching of scaled images [18552], [19109]
        * Re-write myththemedmenu to use mythui directly instead of using it's own theme format [18606]
        * Adds selection wrapping support to MythUIButtonList [18705]
        * Add font 'states' to mythuitext and mythuibuttonlist [18746]
        * Port Channel Recording Priorities screen to mythui [18801]
        * Port Status screen to mythui [18865]
        * Port MythWelcome? to MythUI [18884]
        * Add Proof of concept UI painter that uses VDPAU [19360]
        * Adds an alpha masking capability to MythUIImage [19501]
        * Adds a case element to MythUIText to allow themers to change the case of text [19515]
        * Convert the ProgLister screen to MythUI [19594]
        * Ports the Watch Recordings screen (playbackbox) to MythUI [19603]
        * Port the Program Details screen to MythUI [19643]
        * Add support for a element in the menu themes [19712]
        * Allow some images to be loaded when needed, not all the time [19736]
        * Fix switching themes/resolutions/painters on the fly [19738]
        * Add an optional date grouping list to the Upcoming Recordings screen [19762]
        * Convert the virtual popup keyboard to MythUI [19767]
        * Remove hard coded base resolutions for theme scaling. We now use the resolution defined in the themeinfo.xml [19772]
        * Add file browsing and selection dialog for mythui [19833]
        * Convert schema upgrade wizard to MythUI [19845]
        * Add a element to MythUIText [19894]
        * Port the channel editor screen and icon import screens to mythui [20000]
        * Convert the Program Finder screen to MythUI [20138]
        * Add fanart/banner/coverfile support to Watch Recordings [20172]
        * Convert the Previously Recorded screen to MythUI [20204]
        * Add a 'captive' wrapstyle to MythUIButtonList [20234]
        * Add a 'shape' widget [20255]
        * Enable netscape plugins in qtwebkit for mythuibrowser
        * Add a mythui guide grid widget [20352]
        * Update the guide grid screen to mythui [20353]
        * Add a simple mythui screen to display while the internal player is starting up [20354]
        * Add local caching of channel icons retrieved from remote backends [20446]
        * Add "justify" alignment mode, analogous to "full" justification to MythUIText [20455]
        * Convert the customedit screen to MythUI [21470]
        * Allow the PAGELEFT and PAGERIGHT keybindings to cycle through Recording Groups in the Watch Recordings screen [21261]
        * Allow the use of a template for the text with spinboxes [21678]
        * Add two new values for in MythUIText, capitalisefirst and capitaliseall [21827]
        * Port the schedule editor to mythui [21831]
        * Update MythUIFileBrowser so that it works for browsing both local

directories and remote Storage Groups [21908]

        * Fixed DVD menu handling problem
        * Fixed playback being paused when entering the Program Finder during playback. [16744]
        * Corrected cyclic font inheritance problem [16759]
        * Fixed issue where recording continued playing in background when editing. [16765]
        * Fixed starting mythfrontend on the second head of a dual-headed system using the desktop dimensions of the first head. [16813]
        * Fixed processing jobs in schedruntime order instead of inserttime. This solves the issue of deferred autotranscode jobs holding up other jobs. [16944]
        * Refactorization of video output code.


        * Adds a --override-settings-file command line option [17309]
        * Allow relative PREFIX by implementing new --runtime-prefix configure parameter [17458]
        * Fix circular dependencies between libraries [17650]
        * Allow some settings to use an hostname [17685]
        * Adds DB backup script capability to MythTV [17882]
        * Add configure option for less verbose compilation --enable-silent-cc [17963]
        * Improved LIRC handling [17972]
        * Add Croatian language support [18272]
        * Add SSE optimized routines for soundtouch [19024]
        * Stores the video resolution changes in recordedmarkup [19149]
        * LiveTV - Allow browsing across tuners [19483]
        * Add dvd speed control [19866]
        * Add channel grouping feature that allows you to create groups of channels to help to find a channel while in live tv or the EPG [20523]
        * Use the standard screen priorities provided by lcdproc 0.5 rather than the non standard numeric ones we've always used [20559]
        * Add the ability to change the verbose level of a running mythfrontend and master mythbackend [21396]
        * Improved handling of the '-geometry' command line option [21671]
        * Rename mythtv test app to mythavtest to avoid people running it by mistake [21904]
        * Adds --cxx option to configure so you can use compilers other than gcc [17511]
        * Allow slave backends to be shut down and awakened on demand by the master backend [20084]
        * Add new disk balancing algorithms 'Balanced Free Space' and 'Balanced Disk I/O' [21221]

Network Control

        * Adds a "query version" command to the network control interface [17456]
        * Add the ability to query the uptime, memstats, and load for the frontend via the network control socket [21419]
        * Add a new command to mythfrontend's network control interface to allow playing any video file via a remote command [21425]


        * Add a new version of the DELETE_RECORDING backend command [17711]
        * Adds QUERY_TIMEZONE to mythtv protocol [18574]
        * Adds information on storage used by LiveTV/Deleted/Expirable recordings to the backend status page [20988]
        * Allow writing files using myth:// URLs via a writeable RingBuffer and/or RemoteFile [21134]
        * Add a way to delete files remotely [21156]
        * Add QUERY_FILE_EXISTS to mythtv protocol [21770]

Mac OS X

        * Fixed Intel MMX support [16657]


        * Fix creating a DVD when the first title, which is used to create the DVD's volumeid, has non ascii characters in it. [16782]
        * Fix comment not terminated error from dvdauthor caused by titles with a double '-' character in the title. [16782]
        * Quote the title used as the volumeid when burning to a re-writable DVD. [17094]
        * Converted to MythUI [19103], [19180], [19181], [19266], [19228] et al
        * Fix AC3 stream not being identified properly [17101]
        * Ignore any errors while remuxing the subtitles [17146]
        * Fix mythburn.py sometimes not choosing the correct streams when using projectx [17346]
        * Add new DVD theme "Black" [19843]


        * Has been converted to MythUI and now uses webkit instead of konqueror [18147]
        * Support for flash and javascript when using Qt 4.5 (including Hulu and iPlayer)
        * Convert to be a regular myth plugin rather than a standalone app [20933]


        * Converted to MythUI [16885]
        * Merged into mythfrontend [19755]


        * Converted to MythUI [16549]
        * Fix Netflix history browsing [20305]


        * Converted to MythUI [16597]
        * Added option to use Internal player for playback of videos [16554]
        * Use Qt4's tiff support instead of libtiff [17777]
        * Warn the user if MythGallery's start directory cannot be found or is not readable before running the plugin [18748]
        * Add optional 'breadcrumbs' and position text area to icon view [21698]
        * Add optional state type to items to indicate a thumb represents a directory and also add text area to show child count. [21698]


        * Converted to MythUI [20780]
        * Added Fanart and Boxart support.
        * Added "Show Information" and "Edit Metadata" screens.
        * Add plot and screenshot browsing [20854]


        * Converted to MythUI [19816]
        * Don't quit the application when it fails to parse the xml from the grabber [17360]


        * Remove the direct dependancy on libfaad and mp4ff by switching to use ffmepg's libav* for decoding aac in mythmusic. --enable-libfaad can be used to go back if aac audio files are not playable with ffmpeg's native decoder. [20962]
        * Make the action on exiting MythMusic configurable [17823]
        * Replaces the mad,vorbis and flac decoders with the AVF decoder which uses our internal ffmpeg libs [19477]
        * Port the music miniplayer to mythui [19785]
        * Port the EditMetadata screen to mythui [19793]
        * Port the Import Files/Coverart screens to mythui [19796]
        * Port the CD Ripping screens to MythUI [19798]
        * Support some additional audio file extensions and containers in mythmusic [21063]
        * Bump the minimum required version of Taglib to 1.5 [21105]
        * Replace the existing Flac/Ogg Vorbis tagging classes with ones based on Taglib [21143], [21145]


        * Converted to MythUI [16915]
        * Add atom feed support to MythNews [17353]
        * Add podcast support [17918] [17919] [17920]
        * Fix broken and add new Digital Spy RSS feed URLs [18732]
        * Fix one Finnish news URL (Helsingin Sanomat) and add a new one (YLE) [19482]


        * Has been removed [19702]


see Transistion Guide: MythVideo_.22_Transition_Guide

        * New Default Movie Grabber: Tmdb.pl [19251]
        * New TV Grabber: ttvdb.py
        * Ability to associate a trailer with a film, and watch it from the context menu [19441]
        * Ability to "Watch with Trailers," which will play a user-specified number of random trailers before the film
        * Screenshot, Banner, and Fanart support in UI/DB.
        * Screenshot, Banner, and Fanart support in grabbers (TMDB and TTVDB)
        * Handling of subtitle, season, and episode fields
        * Auto-parsing of common Television Episode naming conventions
        * Support for video and images in Storage Groups (streaming without a network mount)
        * Fixed UPnP nested video directories with PS3 clients [16557]
        * Converted to MythUI [18389]
        * Folders without "folder.jpg" images in them will display the poster of the first viable item within [21193]
        * "Metadata browsing" views. Build the tree by Genre, Category, Cast, Director, User Rating, Directory structure, etc. [21238]
        * Add a 'Watched' Flag [21217]
        * Add Alpacine grabber for Spanish users [21223]
        * Add a freeform text filter to the filter dialog [21274]
        * Add an alternate player option [21444]
        * Adds JAMU, Just Another Metadata Utility [21506]
        * Add Storage Group image hunt [21582]
        * Enable the use of coverart/fanart/banner/screenshot in the edit metadata screen [21667]


        * Added caching of script results [16488]
        * Converted to MythUI [17041]
        * Fix for broken BBC location search [20068]
        * Tango weather icons added [21210]


        * Fixed forget_old when deleting recordings [16806]
        * Added dupe checking to the mythweb video imdb search [16808]
        * Adding a lockdown feature to mythweb [17580]
        * Allows customization of the upcoming recordings page [17642]
        * Add iCal support [17740]
        * Adding in rss buttons to the bottom of the recorded page [17836]
        * Add the ability to filter mythwebs search results by recorded and will record [18557]
        * Add an 'interactive' mode to the mythweb remote panel [21303]
        * Add in a Program Category filter box to the search [21666]
        * Add in two alternative mythweb themes, Haze Dark and Haze Light [21799]


        * Update MythZoneMinder to work with the newer 1.23.x versions of ZM. [17099]
        * Converted to MythUI [18820] [18873]
        * Allow you to enable/disable a camera and to change a camera's Monitor function from the console screen [17263]

Support libraries

        * Various MHEG engine fixes updates [18184]
        * FFmpeg synced to revision 19352 (various changesets)
        * Add EAC3 spectral extension support [21465], [21466]
        * Add AAC/LATM parsing/decoding [21468]

Python Bindings

        * Additional functions for accessing Myth Protocol tasks. [21191]
        * FileTransfer class for transferring files to and from a backend. [21191]
        * Frontend class for use of the mythfrontend control socket. [21191]
        * Transition to UTF-8.
        * Additional functions for canned access to MythVideo database manipulation. [21190][21050]

Utility Applications

        * Added command-line option "-" to write output of mythtranscode to stdout. This switch also disables any verbose logging. [16535]
        * Added a --recorderOptions (or -ro) parameter for the lossy side of mythtranscode to allow overriding recordingprofile settings from the database. [16536]


        * Add some additional logging options to mythcommflag [17318]
        * Add a new commercial flagger "Pre & Post Roll" [21446]
        * Add storage group support to mythcommflag [21819], [21820]


        * Add some basic daemonizing and logging functionality [20366]


        * Converted to MythUI [18884]


        * Fix a problem with mythshutdown --lock/--unlock [17342]
        * Fix a bug if you wasn't using the ISODate format for the WakeupTimeFormat [18]


        * Add script to export the upcoming recordings list as a ical formatted feed [17547]
        * Add Tk telnet remote interface [17645]
        * User job to simplify creating multiple clips from a recording [20020]
        * Add a script that will tell MythTV to flush all of the recordings in the "Deleted" recgroup to clear up hard drive space immediately [20651]


Re:Release Notes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029182)

They missed this one:

  * The install process still sucks ass and the documentation is no help whatsoever

Slashdot a DOS attack? (-1, Redundant)

cypherdtraitor (1448243) | more than 4 years ago | (#30029108)

Next time I get P.O.'ed at some company, I'm gonna get a link to their web page in a slashdot story.

Bulletproof appliance (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30029302)

I hate to say it, but I keep giving MythTV a try and I still hate it. I've also tried KnoppMyth and Mythbuntu and they are no solution. I use GBPVR. It strips out commercials, lets me create plug-ins, never crashes or has problems, and takes me a few minutes to set up even with network clients and custom remote control mappings. It's not open source, but it sure does work. I will try MythTV 0.22, but I doubt it will live up to my expectations. And yes I have tried Sage and I don't like it at all.
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