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US Navy Was Ordered To Listen For Martian Broadcast

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the roaring-extraterrestrial-20's dept.

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MarkWhittington writes "It seems that a SETI (Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence) experiment happened decades before the Project Ozma occurred in 1960. The historians at the blog Letters of Note have uncovered a telegram sent in 1924 by then Chief of Naval Operations Edward W. Eberle instructing the United States Navy to listen for radio transmissions from the planet Mars."

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And... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042058)

What did they find?

Re:And... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042064)

Noise.

Re:And... (1)

click2005 (921437) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042084)

So mars owns the copyright to random noise?

Re:And... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042280)

Excellent. Somebody file a lawsuit against .

Re:And... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042324)

How about they start listening for an African broadcast. Have those spear-chuckers discovered the electromagnetic spectrum yet? Or are they still inventing ways to handle peanuts?

Re:And... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30043144)

Oh, come on. At least there's a small chance of intelligent life on Mars. We already know about Africa. [hbdbooks.com]

Re:And... (3, Funny)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042360)

Yes. The Jonas Brothers pay a yearly licensing fee to High Overlord Ykkkkkkdrzkl.

Re:And... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042362)

that Mars needs guitars ...

Transmission was heard... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042070)

They did catch a radio transmission, which said "Yvan eht nioj".

Re:Transmission was heard... (4, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042122)

They received a radio commercial: "Get your Human Ant Farm now! Watch humans toil away in your very own transparent human farm! They're so cheap that you can just throw them away and start over rather than clean the cage. We all know how smelly earthlings can get, zboys and zgirls. Your zmom will be so proud!"

Re:Transmission was heard... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042498)

That's very disrespectful to the chinese...

Bah! They heard nothing! (1)

h4rm0ny (722443) | more than 4 years ago | (#30044310)

The chances of anything living on Mars, are a million to one!

Re:Transmission was heard... (0, Redundant)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042286)

Its s Simpons reference "Join the Navy"

Re:Transmission was heard... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30043084)

Thank you, I don't believe any of us would have been able to figure that if you hadn't pointed it out.
Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha, it's so funy, ha, ha. ha.
Thank you.

Re:Transmission was heard... (1)

auric_dude (610172) | more than 4 years ago | (#30043436)

No I didn't but according to some sources 'The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one".

Re:Transmission was heard... (2, Funny)

the_arrow (171557) | more than 4 years ago | (#30043630)

Ah, but "a million to one" chance always succeeds! But it needs to exactly a million to one... A million and one to one chance, or a 999999 to one chance will fail.

Re:Transmission was heard... (1)

tinkerton (199273) | more than 4 years ago | (#30044612)

Let me see. A minimum set of characters would contain 30-ish in all. your text is 13 chars, so 13**30 is 10 e33 combinations. The chances of encountering this string in a say a Mhz random bitstream does seem rather small. But "Navy" must have been possible.

Underfunded? (2, Funny)

sanosuke001 (640243) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042074)

So is that why SETI doesn't get more funding? The Navy knows there aren't any signals out there because they're getting their allies to block any new incoming transmissions...

It all makes sense now!

SETI is for show and they hide the real stuff that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042172)

So is that why SETI doesn't get more funding? The Navy knows there aren't any signals out there because they're getting their allies to block any new incoming transmissions...

It all makes sense now!

SETI is for show and they hide the real stuff that is going on.

ALSO THE AIR FORCE HAS space ships based on allies tech.

also look at ...ghsdghashr..call dropped.

Re:SETI is for show and they hide the real stuff t (1)

causality (777677) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042332)

So is that why SETI doesn't get more funding? The Navy knows there aren't any signals out there because they're getting their allies to block any new incoming transmissions...

It all makes sense now!

SETI is for show and they hide the real stuff that is going on.

ALSO THE AIR FORCE HAS space ships based on allies tech.

also look at ...ghsdghashr..call dropped.

Shit. He knows too much!

Re:Underfunded? (4, Funny)

gtall (79522) | more than 4 years ago | (#30043846)

Actually, they've stopped because a more interesting problem arose. They are spending all their resources on attempting to detect intelligent signals from the U. S. Congress. So far, the noise has completely overridden any underlying signal but they still hope for success with ever more sensitive equipment. It was thought that when Biden left, this would raise the signal to noise ratio, and it did for awhile. At least the noise decreased. But now it appears that the vice-president's office is acting like a radio black hole even able to suck intelligent brainwaves from escaping. The proof is apparently in the speeches the vice president has given since becoming vice-president. Alien abduction and replacement cannot be ruled out. Anyhow, a radio black hole has never before been seen in the natural universe and so close scrutiny by Navy scientists is called for.

There are two parts thought to be present in any Congressional signal if there be any all. The Republican part, it is theorized, is very attenuated but appears to vacillate between sanity and insanity. The phase of the moon figures in here. The Democrat part is chaotic in a strange way, the chaos appears to wrap back on itself. This has the effect of entirely isolating them in an electronic brain trap, no new ideas come in or go out. The Navy feels the key to unlocking this trap is frontal and backtal lobotomy leaving only the lower base parts of the Democrat brain intact. To catch the Republican signal, should it indeed be there, trained dolphins with lasers on their heads will be required. In the meantime, tin foil hats are being distributed throughout the government in the hopes of preventing any dangerous emissions, which might be present but at undetectable levels, from impacting the nation.

The Navy, in an interim report, says that apart from a mysterious exponential rise in the national debt, no active Congressional signal is present. Said Admiral Wavey-Gravy, "Some of us believe Congress doesn't really exist given they seem to have no discernible effect on the surrounding political environment; it is as though 1000 Klieg lights turned on and no Congress-critter materialized to bask in their warm glow." When it was pointed out to Adm. Wave that news conferences were being held daily by Congress-critters, his response was, "You mean alleged Congress-critters, it isn't like anyone actually caught them doing anything intelligent, is it?"

Not Mars (5, Funny)

Max Littlemore (1001285) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042082)

Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope
Earth.
Yip yip yip yip yip yip.
Huh! Look. Aaaawwwwww. Radio.
Radio.
Yip yip yip yip yip.
Radio
Uhuh, uhuh, Radio. Yipyipyipyipyip.

Re:Not Mars (5, Informative)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042210)

For your viewing pleasure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qxWGr8VhzQ [youtube.com]

Oh no! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042670)

I don't even want to watch the video, those things used to scare the shit out of me as a kid! I had a recurring nightmare about them for years, I still don't understand why they still kind of creep me out.

Why is it that almost everyone thought they were great and just a few found them terrifying?

Re:Oh no! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042714)

@ Anonymous Coward.

YipYipYipYipYipYipYipYipYip!
Ohoh, Ohoh.
YipYipYipYipYipYipYipYipYip!

Raaaydeeoh. Aaaaaawwwwww

Re:Oh no! (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042794)

[yip-yips] still kind of creep me out.

I guess we all have some form of that. Clowns still creep me out.

Does anybody have say RMS or MS-Bob on their list by chance?
   

Re:Oh no! (1)

MrMr (219533) | more than 4 years ago | (#30044460)

You were abducted?

Re:Not Mars (1)

shock1970 (1216162) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042996)

Awesome... Totally Awesome!

Re:Not Mars (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30043058)

I now understand why I'm the idiot I am today. Thank you Sesame St.

Man, (4, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042086)

what I wouldn't give to be able to put a transmitter on Mars and fuck with them. "Bring me all your pretty girls and best beers or face destruction, puny Earthlings! And spell out 'Earth is Stupid' with your battleships so we can spot it from space."

Are you mad? Joke would be on you!!! (3, Funny)

syousef (465911) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042898)

"Bring me all your pretty girls and best beers or face destruction, puny Earthlings!

Are you MAD, man? If they took you seriously they'd launch all the pretty girls into space! Noooooooo!

Re:Are you mad? Joke would be on you!!! (1)

evan_arrrr! (1406417) | more than 4 years ago | (#30044214)

It's not like it matters anyway, you're on Slashdot.

Re:Are you mad? Joke would be on you!!! (1)

misexistentialist (1537887) | more than 4 years ago | (#30044294)

It would once all the strapping jocks, musicians, and corporate masters start stealing our C-level girls! Then again, the creation of the sexbot would take on new urgency, so we might end up better off after all.

Re:Are you mad? Joke would be on you!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30044664)

You need to say send us all you ugly girls and old people

Missed opportunity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042104)

They should have slapped a portable radio on the rovers. Then again cell phones might have been a better move. If AT&T is providing service on Mars there's no way the signal would reach Earth. It's crappy enough when you are standing under a tower.

Re:Missed opportunity (3, Funny)

jamstar7 (694492) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042394)

They should have slapped a portable radio on the rovers. Then again cell phones might have been a better move. If AT&T is providing service on Mars there's no way the signal would reach Earth. It's crappy enough when you are standing under a tower.

I wouldn't wanna have to pay the roaming charges for a cell fone on Mars.

tone, tone, tone (2, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042142)

"We're sorry, this is a long-distance call. Please hang up and deposit 8 million gold bars."

Re:tone, tone, tone (2, Informative)

istartedi (132515) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042400)

That works out to $3.52 trillion in today's dollars, if you use London Good Delivery bars (400 oz./bar * $1100/oz * 8 million).

Re:tone, tone, tone (1)

Captain Nitpick (16515) | more than 4 years ago | (#30043524)

That works out to $3.52 trillion in today's dollars, if you use London Good Delivery bars (400 oz./bar * $1100/oz * 8 million).

And it amounts to about 8% of all the gold ever mined worldwide.

Re:tone, tone, tone (1)

daveime (1253762) | more than 4 years ago | (#30043772)

I think you meant "for all intents and purposes", but not bad.

Re:tone, tone, tone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30044044)

He was wrong about "whom" and he used the phrase "begs the question" wrongly too. Or didn't you notice?

Re:tone, tone, tone (1)

quenda (644621) | more than 4 years ago | (#30044748)

He was wrong about "whom" and he used the phrase "begs the question" wrongly too. Or didn't you notice?

And you failed to say "woosh!!!",so -2 geek points.

Re:tone, tone, tone (0, Offtopic)

evan_arrrr! (1406417) | more than 4 years ago | (#30044224)

Your sig .... ugh.

It's "For all intents and purposes," not "intensive purposes."

Re:tone, tone, tone (1)

selven (1556643) | more than 4 years ago | (#30044326)

I think the man whom made that sig was deliberately doing that.

Re:tone, tone, tone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30044826)

Did you hear that whooshing sound? It's the joke going over your head.

This is good science (5, Interesting)

JoshuaZ (1134087) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042144)

This is good science. In 1924 we didn't have any strong reasons to think that there wasn't intelligent life on Mars. If anything, the evidence seemed to favor the other direction. Moreover, simply having ships listen in wouldn't have cost that much money. So this was an experiment with potentially very high pay-off compared to the resources it took. This does lead to some interesting ideas for a scifi story in which they do find signals. NaNoWriMo anyone?

Re:This is good science (1)

DerekLyons (302214) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042296)

Moreover, simply having ships listen in wouldn't have cost that much money.

Wouldn't have cost much money - and would have accomplished diddley squat (shipboard amplifiers wouldn't up to the task). Doesn't matter anyways, as the telegram directed shore stations to do the listening.

Re:This is good science (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042316)

This is good science. In 1924 we didn't have any strong reasons to think that there wasn't intelligent life on Mars. If anything, the evidence seemed to favor the other direction. Moreover, simply having ships listen in wouldn't have cost that much money. So this was an experiment with potentially very high pay-off compared to the resources it took. This does lead to some interesting ideas for a scifi story in which they do find signals. NaNoWriMo anyone?

Sadly this coincided with the great Martian radio strike of '24. All martian DJs were marching picket lines at the time.

Re:This is good science (1)

BrokenHalo (565198) | more than 4 years ago | (#30043448)

This is good science. In 1924 we didn't have any strong reasons to think that there wasn't intelligent life on Mars.

And, just to demonstrate that good science is timeless, we have impirically proved that in 2009 there is no intelligent life to be found on Earth either.

Re:This is good science (1)

Nqdiddles (805995) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042338)

Coming a week or so too late to be of use to me this year. Might be something to file away in the draw of possibilities for next year though!

Specifically... (5, Informative)

tjstork (137384) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042344)

It wasn't until the 1950s, I believe, that scientists began to realize that Venus and Mars were both utterly inhospitable. Indeed, the first Mariner photographs of Mars, that showed it to be almost moonlike, blasted with craters and seemingly ancient and dead, came as something of a shock to the academic community.

Re:Specifically... (5, Insightful)

ChromeAeonium (1026952) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042468)

It is kind of disappointing to think about how our society would have evolved from that point on had it turned out that Venus, Mars, and/or the moon were habitable and had their own native flora and fauna, even if they weren't sentient.

Re:Specifically... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042636)

You would think Venus would be hospitable, considering women are from there...

Re:Specifically... (3, Funny)

Kagura (843695) | more than 4 years ago | (#30043164)

Have you met a hospitable woman?

Re:Specifically... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30044716)

They're all on Venus.

Re:Specifically... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30043176)

You don't know many women, do you?

Re:This is good science (2, Interesting)

retchdog (1319261) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042356)

Vernor Vinge does a lot of this. My favorite, where the "aliens" are two rival bands of humans visiting another planet and competing to establish first contact, is A Deepness in the Sky. I wish I could say more, but even describing the overall structure of the story would involve a spoiler. :-/ It's loosely a sequel to A Fire Upon the Deep, but they can be read interchangably.

I would have sniffed at this kind of stuff before, but having read Deepness... I think it's worth spending some resources to keep an eye open.

(Yeah, I know; most likely, they could wipe us out without blinking an eye. But that wouldn't be very interesting. ;-)

Re:This is good science (5, Insightful)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042432)

It's easy to forget just how new most of our knowledge about the universe beyond Earth's atmosphere is. A mere fifty years ago, just throwing a dog or chimp into orbit was tricky business, and all we knew of other celestial bodies was seen through a glass darkly, from the murkey depths of our atmosphere. So... damn right there coulda been people on Mars in 1924. Just like in the 1960s we "knew" that it was utterly barren... but now aren't quite so sure. I can certainly see why some members of our society might find this rapid evolution of "what we know" unsettling, so they cling to a system of belief that promises not to change. But I think the roller coaster ride of Science is great.

Re:This is good science (2, Insightful)

Idiomatick (976696) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042538)

"A mere fifty years ago, just throwing a dog or chimp into orbit was tricky business"

Now we can't at all. Huzzah~!

Re:This is good science (1)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 4 years ago | (#30044272)

I realize it's fashionable to moan about the state of the US space program, but A) it's not as bad as you seem to be hallucinating, and B) there are several other countries with orbital launch capability, too.

Re:This is good science (2, Insightful)

argStyopa (232550) | more than 4 years ago | (#30044306)

"A mere fifty years ago, just throwing a dog or chimp into orbit was tricky business..."

More importantly, we were trying.

Now, it seems, we can hardly be bothered. We've got all these darn poor people to take care of, and WoW to play, not necessarily in that order.

Re:This is good science (1)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042466)

This is good science. In 1924 we didn't have any strong reasons to think that there wasn't intelligent life on Mars.

Well, of course not. Where do you think M&M's [mms.com] come from [wikipedia.org] ?

Re:This is good science (1)

balbord (447248) | more than 4 years ago | (#30045030)

Are implying M&M's are Mars droppings?
That was totally uncalled for.

Re:This is good science (1)

bzipitidoo (647217) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042948)

It was a total shot in the dark. By all means, do those when there isn't anything better to try, or you can't wait. Problem is, there usually are more visible targets to aim for. When that is so, it's really not good science to explore blindly.

I suspect SETI in its current form will turn out to be a waste of effort. There are so many unknowns, but some of the knowns make scanning the electromagnetic spectrum look very unlikely to bear fruit. How far can a radio signal travel before it is too faint to be detected? Or to put it another way, what is the strongest signal a civilization could reasonably produce? The time it would take is another knock against. What I'm thinking is that faster than light communication may be possible (spooky action at a distance?), and if it is, then probably intelligent aliens have figured it out and would not use a method dependent on the speed of light.

Something else I wonder is whether the fundamentals of nature make the whole scheme of using a carrier signal with modulation (amplitude, frequency, phase) the way to use the electromagnetic spectrum. If aliens use that medium, can we detect something no matter what method they use?

Re:This is good science (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30043350)

What I'm thinking is that faster than light communication may be possible (spooky action at a distance?), and if it is, then probably intelligent aliens have figured it out and would not use a method dependent on the speed of light.

Quantum entanglement transfers no information. From everything we've ever seen or measured, there is no way to transmit information faster than c. In fact, if you can do so at all, no matter the method, you can then transmit backwards in time and break causality.
  If aliens want to transmit information, c will always be a limit, unless our universe is non-causal, and thus fundamentally impossible to understand.

  Radio waves are a good choice to listen for, though - they don't get absorbed by much of anything in the universe, and radar is pretty much universally useful for tracking objects inside and outside an atmosphere. Although our TV and radio signals have gotten quieter over recent years, Earth's radar signature keeps going up as we add more and bigger radar tracking systems everywhere. (Every TV station's gotta have that pentuple doppler cast now, don'tcha know!)

Re:This is good science (1)

BrokenHalo (565198) | more than 4 years ago | (#30043492)

If aliens want to transmit information, c will always be a limit, unless our universe is non-causal, and thus fundamentally impossible to understand.

This sometimes leaves me thinking that if there were a hypothetical Intelligent Designer(TM), building a universe with such a physical limit to speed was probably a pretty good idea, since it effectively keeps us where we are, so we can't fuck up any other planets. :-)

Re:This is good science (1)

daveime (1253762) | more than 4 years ago | (#30043796)

Not very knowledgeable about Quantums and stuff, but why can't Quantum Entanglement imply the states of 2 things as they are now ? Why does a change in one half "now" allow a change in the other half "past / future", thus breaking causality ?

Re:This is good science (1)

Mycroft_VIII (572950) | more than 4 years ago | (#30043974)

Not entirely certain I understand your question, but perhaps this wikipedia page and some of it's links will help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light [wikipedia.org]

Mycroft

Re:This is good science (1)

LordVader717 (888547) | more than 4 years ago | (#30045212)

It was a total shot in the dark. By all means, do those when there isn't anything better to try, or you can't wait. Problem is, there usually are more visible targets to aim for.

That sounds a bit aloof considering that one of the most revolutionary images ever taken of the universe, the Hubble Deep Field, was exactly that, a shot in the dark. And yes, there were a ton of "more visible" targets.

As soon as you have new technology available, the first thing you do is try out the unknown.

As for SETI, it's more a question of information theory than of physics. Radio waves are the only current conceivable way of detecting life. The only problem is the amount of analysis and processing that may be necessary.

Something else I wonder is whether the fundamentals of nature make the whole scheme of using a carrier signal with modulation (amplitude, frequency, phase) the way to use the electromagnetic spectrum.

That's the only way to use the electromagnetic spectrum, as those parameters completely describe the physical properties.

Response reads... (0, Redundant)

syousef (465911) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042150)

"The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one...."

Re:Response reads... (1)

elronxenu (117773) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042208)

"... but still, they come..."

Re:Response reads... (1)

syousef (465911) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042876)

Thank you! At least someone gets it!

LHC (5, Funny)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042198)

Message received: "This is the Large Hadron Collider from the future. Do not attempt to [static.......] last warning."

Re:LHC (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042278)

And in 1927 [wikipedia.org] ...

Re:LHC (3, Funny)

Ukab the Great (87152) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042328)

"...use the LHC to distill vodka. It makes terrible vodka...."

Re:LHC (1)

Sparx139 (1460489) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042904)

Replying to undo mis-moderation. You'd think they would have listened by now and added a confirmation...

Re:LHC (1)

TheModelEskimo (968202) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042956)

"Repeat...do not attempt....[static] baguette...birds may....most urgent"

What about the president? (1)

taxman_10m (41083) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042240)

The president at the time was Calvin Coolidge. Was this navy guy doing his own thing or was Cool Cal involved too?

Well, sure. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042262)

We want to know if they're talking about stealing our precious bodily fluids.

The chances of anything coming from Mars... (0, Redundant)

White Flame (1074973) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042292)

are a million to one, he said!

Re:The chances of anything coming from Mars... (1)

mcneely.mike (927221) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042490)

The chances of anything cumming from Mars... That's what SHE said!

Syfy (1)

rolodexmarvin2 (931099) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042326)

Science fiction from decades previous inspired fear.

Re:Syfy (please no) (3, Insightful)

cblack (4342) | more than 4 years ago | (#30043248)

Please no, The Sci-fi Channel changing their name to SyFy was bad enough. Please do not further this abomination of an abbreviation/rebranding. Call it Sci-Fi or SF, never SyFy.

Re:Syfy (please no) (2, Funny)

jandoedel (1149947) | more than 4 years ago | (#30043688)

SyFy must be written by syentists.

Re:Syfy (please no) (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#30044170)

If you make it generic then they'll lose their trademark and have to pick another (hopefully less-silly) name.

Jansky's discovery of cosmic radio waves (1)

602 (652745) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042354)

Re:Jansky's discovery of cosmic radio waves (1)

Shag (3737) | more than 4 years ago | (#30044662)

1929? Don't know where you picked that date from, since it's clearly not supported by the article. 1932 is a more generally accepted year for the discovery.

But yeah, Jansky was awesome. As were a couple other Bell Labs guys a few decades later - maybe you've heard of Penzias and Wilson.

I'm in the middle of writing a paper on this stuff for one of my classes, and this Navy thing is definitely getting cited. :)

Acronym mistake? (2, Interesting)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042384)

Maybe "MARS" is really an acronym for something like Marine Atmospheric Reflection Survey", but some dolt forgot it and did Mars instead.

Venus! (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042408)

Actually, being at sea for a long time, they ignored the order and turned the antennas to Venus instead, hoping for some 3-breasted steamy green babes. "Hey babe, Earth's gravity is 20% stronger, meaning other things are 20% stronger also. Don't believe me? Hover down and check it out."

Re:Venus! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042906)

"Hey babe, Earth's gravity is 20% stronger..."

Man, they'd really worry about their weight then

How to receive martian broadcasts (2, Funny)

digitalhermit (113459) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042424)

The process of creating a martian broadcast is actually quite simple. The technology is decidely low tech and can be put together in a short afternoon using some wire and a bit of electronic ingenuity. With a Linux PC, a CAT5 ethernet cable, a scissors, a few twists of some SEND/RECV pairs and you can soon detect Martian broadcasts. It's possibly to do it entirely in software also, perhaps with some creative use of the BOND0 adapter, the bonding module, and some misplaced balance-alb statements, but it's hardly worth mentioning.

Re:How to receive martian broadcasts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042608)

With a Linux PC, a CAT5 ethernet cable, a scissors, a few twists of some SEND/RECV pairs and you can soon detect Martian broadcasts.

Yep. And I'm sure that all worked in 1924. Hey, I'm interested in trying to "creating" a martian broadcast, where can I buy a scissors?

This is a topic for The Man (1)

G3ckoG33k (647276) | more than 4 years ago | (#30042624)

Search for Life on Mars? This is a topic for The Man. No, not David Bowie, but http://www.charlieleduff.com/ [charlieleduff.com] :) Seriously, this is not any more strange than NASA doing SETI. Or why should it be?

Cranks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30042626)

Seriously....can we get actual science articles posted?

I actually knew about this (1)

mbone (558574) | more than 4 years ago | (#30043102)

I know that I read about this in the 1970's in some of the SETI scientific literature - I believe in Intelligent Life in the Universe (Carl Sagan & I.S. Shklovskii, Random House, 1966), but I don't have a copy handy.

Evidence of artificial structures on Mars? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30043484)

Indeed, some scientists have found what would appear to be traces of artificial structures on Mars.

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2005/084/hale-civ-evidence.htm

Who knows what kind of life were there previously, recent investigations have revealed that Mars seem to be
a planet who once supported life, however now seemingly is dead, save perhaps, some bacterial life.

It would be easy to dismiss these structures as pictures artifacts, and jpeg-artifacts comes to mind, however
they don't look like that, and neither are they following surfaces in an angle in a pictures.

Re:Evidence of artificial structures on Mars? (2, Funny)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#30044182)

Wow, scientists have found evidence of macroblocking caused by a discrete cosine transform-based compression algorithm in pictures of Mars! Shocking news!

Re:Evidence of artificial structures on Mars? (1)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 4 years ago | (#30044364)

It would be easy to dismiss these structures as pictures artifacts, and jpeg-artifacts comes to mind

Well, they can't possibly be JPEG artefacts. Because scientists work on the uncompressed TIFF files, not on JPEGs at all. JPEGs are only used for the pretty pictures posted on the web for public use as desktop wallpapers. Nobody would dream of using the JPEGs for research purposes. So these guys, being scientists as you tell us, certainly aren't looking at JPEG artefacts, because they were working from the TIFFs.

Right?...

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