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Police Arrest Man For Refusing To Tweet

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the when-they-say-tweet-you-better-tweet dept.

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RichZellich writes "Police arrested a senior vice president from Island Def Jam Records, saying he hindered their crowd-control efforts by not cooperating. The crowd at a mall where Justin Bieber was appearing got out of control, and police wanted the man to send a tweet asking for calm; he refused and they arrested him on a felony assault charge 'for putting people in danger.'"

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How would that work (0, Offtopic)

PizzaAnalogyGuy (1684610) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217238)

How would they had read the tweet? Or are everyone actually having twitter "on" all the time in mobile phone?

This is almost like a new pizza place would open in the town square and people would be lining to try it out. As a special opening gift, one random guy would be chosen to decide what toppings go to the largest pizza ever done. Of course everyone would want to chose their favourite ones, crowd would go wild and police would have to be called in and arrest everyone. So now theres tons of pizzas done but everyone is jail. what does the owner do? He enjoys the worlds largest pizza himself.

I hope the world doesn't turn in to even more "you're always online" place. I usually even leave my phone home when I'm going spending good time somewhere. I don't need to be reachable all the time.

Re:How would that work (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217272)

So what are you basically saying?

Re:How would that work (4, Funny)

roguetrick (1147853) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217380)

Hes saying he started an account to make Pizza analogies, and plans on continuing to do so until everyone is pissed at his attention whoring, or they all form a mob to get autographs from him when he sends out tweets. Whichever comes first.

Re:How would that work (4, Insightful)

roguetrick (1147853) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217360)

The guy continued to send out tweets that he was signing autographs after the giant crowd dispersed. He was being an asshole and a danger to public safety to satisfy his Internet ego. Does that make what the cops did right? I dunno. But it does make him a douche.

Re:How would that work (5, Insightful)

dintlu (1171159) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217510)

What gives the police the right to compel a person to say or do anything?

The way I see it, the police know this exec is going to walk away with a clean record- after all, he's done nothing wrong. The consequence of this mess is that the average person will be more likely to comply when an illegal demand is made by the police, because the average person can't afford the same legal representation as a corporate executive.

Re:How would that work (5, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217602)

"Vee haf vays of making you tweet."

Re:How would that work (3, Interesting)

Mike Buddha (10734) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217674)

You're obligated to comply with a lawful order from a police officer. Failing to do so is unlawful. So if the cop says,"tell them to leave [because you've created a dangerous situation by being here]" you'd better comply, or you'll get sent down. Just because they told him to do it with twitter makes no difference.

Re:How would that work (2, Insightful)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217678)

What gives the police the right to compel a person to say or do anything?

After seeing a video from there [youtube.com] I'm not against this anymore. Teenage girls, sigh.

Re:How would that work (1)

roguetrick (1147853) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217638)

For clarifications sake, I don't know if this guy really did send the tweets after the crowd dispersed completely. Its something I heard on another site. All I know is I don't have much sympathy for this guy.

Re:How would that work (1)

Avenger546 (69810) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217652)

> The guy continued to send out tweets that he was signing autographs after the giant crowd dispersed.

I didn't see that in a single post about this. Every post I saw said "Cops asked him to tweet that the kid wasn't coming, he refused, he got arrested".

(The kid and his people *did* post that it was shut down on his own twitter account. And whose tweets would you be following - the artist, or some record exec?)

Can you show me an article saying "he kept tweeting that the kid would be there even after the event got shut down" ?

Re:How would that work (1)

roguetrick (1147853) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217696)

Yeah, thats something I heard from an unverified site, I should've figured it was bogus and only realized it after the fact after looking into thing. I apologize for that, but I still think this whole thing looks like a douche bag maneuver by an asshole seeking publicity.

Re:How would that work (1)

lorenlal (164133) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217658)

I read the article, and then followed up by going to the linked Newsday article... I saw no such reference.

Can you please provide a link so we can verify that?

Re:How would that work (1)

pal3f (1094703) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217702)

The guy continued to send out tweets that he was signing autographs after the giant crowd dispersed. He was being an asshole and a danger to public safety to satisfy his Internet ego.

Where did you read/hear this? I've read several articles/accounts of this, but I haven't seen anything that says the guy (Roppo) tried to incite the crowd or kept promoting the event after police had shut it down. (Seriously: I'm not saying you're wrong -- I just looking for your source).

Re:How would that work (1)

roguetrick (1147853) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217732)

Comments section on another news site, expect me to get modded down on that quick, haha.

Re:How would that work (1)

pal3f (1094703) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217746)

Never mind; I read below.

Re:How would that work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217792)

Like it or not, there is no law against being a douche.

Re:How would that work (2)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217828)

The guy continued to send out tweets that he was signing autographs after the giant crowd dispersed.

[Citation needed]

From his twitter:

On my way to Roosevelt Field Mall in Long Island, NY to sign and meet fans!! im pumped. see u there
11:59 AM Nov 20th from web

they are not allowing me to come into the mall. if you dont leave I and my fans will be arrested as the police just told us.
1:30 PM Nov 20th from web

the event at roosevelt mall is cancelled. please go home. the police have already arrested one person from my camp. I dont want anyone hurt
1:33 PM Nov 20th from web

Im sorry to everyone who was in Long Island at the Mall 2day. I was just trying to come meet fans and never meant to dissapoint anyone.
2:36 PM Nov 20th from web

today was crazy. feel awful about letting fans down. I tried to get there but they wouldnt let me in - http://bit.ly/727AUl [bit.ly]
6:53 PM Nov 20th from web

So where exactly are these tweets of which you speak?

Re:How would that work (0, Offtopic)

ZERO1ZERO (948669) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217376)

WHAT. THE. FUCK. is it with all these pizza references?

Re:How would that work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217756)

You sir are clearly a car analogy kind of guy!

Sounds like an open-and-shut false-arrest case. (4, Informative)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217276)

n/t

Re:Sounds like an open-and-shut false-arrest case. (1)

just_another_sean (919159) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217576)

Troll? Did somebody hit the wrong button or what? Subject is spot on!

Cop, arrest thyself! (1)

Citizen of Earth (569446) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217278)

Sounds like the cops need to arrest themselves. How do they think the crowd will react to something like this?

Re:Cop, arrest thyself! (1)

polar red (215081) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217496)

How do they think the crowd will react to something like this?

lay an egg ?

Decisions, decisions... (5, Funny)

bbbaldie (935205) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217284)

Do I side with the Fascist cops or the Nazi record exec?

Re:Decisions, decisions... (4, Insightful)

snspdaarf (1314399) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217334)

The enemy of your enemy is not your friend.

Re:Decisions, decisions... (1)

Afforess (1310263) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217836)

The enemy of your enemy is your ally.

Dark Ages (-1, Troll)

SirDrinksAlot (226001) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217296)

What if he doesn't use twitter? Do they expect him to make an account, get everyone in the crowd to subscribe (assuming they don't have some massive aversion to it like my self and refuse to go) and then update the twitter telling everyone to beat it?

This also some how assumes every single person in the crowd has some mobile twitter solution configured as well which is entirely ignorant. If the law officers don't understand anything even a little they shouldn't be allowed to take actions based on their ignorance. Thus they should be relieved of their duties as they cant possibly do their job by making such obtuse assumptions. What the hell is this? The dark ages?

Re:Dark Ages (3, Insightful)

Goaway (82658) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217432)

What if he doesn't use twitter?

Do you honestly think they would have asked that of him if he didn't?

Re:Dark Ages (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217734)

Honestly? I wouldn't be surprised.

Re:Dark Ages (2, Funny)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217798)

Yes, of course. The police force is an incredibly smart and ingenious organization purporting a huge conspiracy that knows everything about everyone. And they are also insanely stupid at the same time. ;)

Re:Dark Ages (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217466)

Except they knew beforehand that he did have a Twitter account. IMHO the whole Twitter angle isn't even relevant; the police should have just stood up and told everybody to go home. Really, are 3,000 teenage girls too much for the police to handle?

Ahh Slashdot (5, Informative)

George Beech (870844) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217320)

He was not arrested for "felony assault" he was arrested for, and i quote TFA:

He was in custody Friday night, pending charges that could include criminal nuisance, endangering the welfare of a minor and obstructing government administration, Smith said.

And no i'm not new here.

Re:Ahh Slashdot (5, Insightful)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217350)

obstructing government administration

Wow. The fact that you can even be charged for something as vague and open to interpretation as that is scary regardless of the context.

Re:Ahh Slashdot (3, Funny)

endianx (1006895) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217450)

How can you be charged with obstructing government administration when government administration's purpose is seemingly to obstruct. Sounds anti-competitive to me.

Re:Ahh Slashdot (2, Funny)

Chibinium (1596211) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217486)

We're talking about China, right?

Re:Ahh Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217522)

You can pretty much be charged for anything. Whether or not the case will go to trial, or result in a conviction, is a whole different enchilada... err, pizza.

Re:Ahh Slashdot (4, Informative)

Reckless Visionary (323969) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217642)

Your point would make sense if it were at all true that the common description of the law had any legal weight outside of the actual text of the law and the applicable case law. That you can call something the "Was Being Bad" law doesn't mean that's what legal standard is applied by judge or jury. Presumably this description is applicable in New York:

http://law.onecle.com/new-york/penal/PEN0195.05_195.05.html [onecle.com]

A reasonable person may disagree with the law or it's exact wording (we are "free" to do so), but don't imply that the title of the law somehow proves a vague catch-all conspiracy.

Re:Ahh Slashdot (5, Insightful)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217830)

I am of the opinion that laws should at least attempted to be written in such a way that they are parseable and understandable by mere mortals. I understand the need for unambiguous legalese, but in this case the title of the law is clearly misleading.

Anyway, looking at the law itself, I do not see how it applies here:

A person is guilty of obstructing governmental administration when he intentionally obstructs, impairs or perverts the administration of law or other governmental function or prevents or attempts to prevent a public servant from performing an official function...

Okay, now the specific conditions follow:

by means of intimidation, physical force or interference

Doesn't apply.

by means of any independently unlawful act

Doesn't apply.

by means of interfering, whether or not physical force is involved, with radio, telephone, television or other telecommunications systems owned or operated by the state, or a county, city, town, village, fire district or emergency medical service

Doesn't apply.

by means of releasing a dangerous animal under circumstances evincing the actor's intent that the animal obstruct governmental administration.

Doesn't apply. In fact, it is perfectly clear and obvious to any sane person - which should, presumably, include police (I sure hope they're sane when on duty!) - that none of those points can apply to this man. I'm not sure, perhaps what he did is indeed grounds for arrest under the laws as written, just not this one.

Now this is just Stupidity at its finest (2)

ITJC68 (1370229) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217324)

How is a tweet requesting calm going to do anything. Most of the people wouldn't pay any attention. The cops should have just used their loudspeaker and told the attendees to calm it down or be arrested. The arresting officer should have some unpaid time off at least for being so stupid.

Re:Now this is just Stupidity at its finest (1, Interesting)

oreaq (817314) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217374)

Unpaid time off? He basically kidnapped a completely innocent man. How about giving him the same punishment that everyone else would get for that crime?

Re:Now this is just Stupidity at its finest (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217738)

Someone please mod parent up.

Flamebait != I disagree.

Re:Now this is just Stupidity at its finest (4, Insightful)

lorenlal (164133) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217628)

Agreed. The crowd was out of hand before the record folks even showed up. The mall security, and the local authorities failed, and then decided to blame someone else for it.

The next thing is: In the article, it appeared that most of the attendees were tween girls... And there were plenty of references to parents being there too. One reference even said that a mother, father and daughter "camped out" so they could be near the front. They also fail. As adults, be freaking civil, you're supposed to be examples. I'm willing to bet that a lot of the fighting was between the adults...

Re:Now this is just Stupidity at its finest (1)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217814)

The same way tweeting incited a crowd to that level of craziness in the first place?

old ways are still the best. (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217328)

Was their bullhorn broken?

Re:old ways are still the best. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217528)

they were already out of control, thats what teargas and riot gear is for = helmets with full face shields, billyclubs & etc...

Re:old ways are still the best. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217580)

Tear gas, dogs and fire hoses have a good track record too.

Re:old ways are still the best. (2, Interesting)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217710)

People respect individuals far more than the police. After all, we all know the police force is out to get you and is only there for nefarious reasons (like taking away your drugs or your fun). Why should we listen to the police?

Seriously, I don't think this generation cares about the police. We have decided that we'd rather rebel and follow some rich guy (put anyone's name in there, even a celebrity) than submit to an authority.

It's an "against the establishment" thing... doesn't particularly matter what "the establishment" is, actually.

So... (3, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217332)

How long before this is held up as an example of why the forces of Public Safety(tm) need to be given the ability to impersonate any twitter user, for the security of the people?

Re:So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217644)

Well, I guess it was appropriate. Have you had a look at the video of the crowd? Hell, I'd have arrested myself if I'd been there.

Re:So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217730)

That is one the dumbest ideas I ever seem posted, are you a politician?

Posters here are like the teens in the vid (4, Insightful)

Puls4r (724907) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217344)

All piling on, screaming, yelling, rabid comments, without knowing why or how.

Have you watched the video? Did you see how PACKED it was?

Where were the orderly lines, set up with ropes, enforced with security? Where were any possible safety measures?

This record exec, if he arranged this, screwed up in a HUGE way. It was pretty clear that NO one was organizing or making this event orderly. I'm surprised people weren't getting pushed over the waist high walls into the second level, or falling and getting crushed under foot.

I'm sorry, but there is a whole lot of circumstances here beside what the oh-so-informative title says. The record label and the mall need to be held responsible for that total cluster fuck. Ordering him to tweet WAS compeltely reasonable when you see the danger involved that this man caused by a total lack of preparation.

Re:Posters here are like the teens in the vid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217406)

Imagine you are in that PACKED crowd - are you going to read a tweet? How is sending a tweet going to help?

Re:Posters here are like the teens in the vid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217482)

Imagine you are in that PACKED crowd - are you going to read a tweet? How is sending a tweet going to help?

The crowd was mostly teenage girls. So, yes, they're likely going to read a tweet.

Re:Posters here are like the teens in the vid (1)

bickle (101226) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217506)

1) Person sends tweet
2) Tweet is sent to 100's of dumb fans via instant message on their phones
3) OMG A MSG I HAVE TO READ IT RIGHT NOW

Re:Posters here are like the teens in the vid (0)

Qzukk (229616) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217440)

Ordering him to tweet WAS compeltely reasonable

I agree that ordering him to fix his shit would be completely reasonable, but what the hell is a tweet going to do? You think all those kids are going to drop everything and look at their twitter account? You think they'd have even heard their phone beep in that mess, assuming that they even get twitter updates on their phone?

Re:Posters here are like the teens in the vid (2, Insightful)

roguetrick (1147853) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217514)

Even if they didn't, it'd keep MORE people from showing up and creating an even LARGER clusterfuck.

Re:Posters here are like the teens in the vid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217780)

I'd rather think that everyone would come over to see the spectacle.

Re:Posters here are like the teens in the vid (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217714)

but what the hell is a tweet going to do?

Might keep him from getting arrested for one.

Re:Posters here are like the teens in the vid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217454)

Ordering him to tweet WAS compeltely reasonable when you see the danger involved that this man caused by a total lack of preparation.

No, ordering someone to 'tweet' is as every bit as ridiculous as it sounds.

However, maybe they could arrest him for the other stuff? Why are the police focusing on this twitter thing, it's just making all involved look stupid...

Re:Posters here are like the teens in the vid (2, Insightful)

roguetrick (1147853) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217526)

The internet press is focusing on the twitter thing. You have to admit, its some headline to get people's panties in a bundle.

Re:Posters here are like the teens in the vid (4, Insightful)

DavidTC (10147) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217584)

'The police' aren't focused on it. The media are.

This guy got arrested because he set up an event he knew would draw huge crowds, it did, he was in charge of the crowd, and he has no safety measures and wouldn't tell them to disperse. (Via any means.)

Sorry, despite freedom of speech and assembly, people don't have the right to set up giant panicky dangerous packed mob. You want to address a huge crowd, you put it somewhere a huge crowd can fit, with actual crowd control measures.

WRT to the twitting, it's likely the police were asking him to get people to stop showing up, not asking the existing crowd to do anything.

Re:Posters here are like the teens in the vid (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217698)

No, ordering someone to 'tweet' is as every bit as ridiculous as it sounds.

Was he wearing a canary suit?

Re:Posters here are like the teens in the vid (1)

ShiningSomething (1097589) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217462)

How would have Twitter helped? He may deserve to be arrested, but his refusal to tweet is not the reason why.

Re:Posters here are like the teens in the vid (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217762)

This is exactly what a record exec wants. Massive publicity.

Re:Posters here are like the teens in the vid (4, Interesting)

Rene S. Hollan (1943) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217832)

I Agree.

I once helped organize a peaceful public march on public sidewalks that ended in a public park with a community picnic. I had to obtain indemnity forms from all participants for my own protection (in case someone slipped and twisted an ankle), but more imnportantly, also obtain insurance to compensate the city if there was any damage: $250,000 worth, given the size of the crowd. (It was actually cheap, about $200).

I was also expected to ensure that people acted in an ORDERLY manner, and would have been required to pay for police presence if the crowd was expected to be large.

The point here was that the event was badly organized and the organizers charged regardless of whether they cooperated with "tweeting" or not. They just made a bad situation worse by not cooperating.

Good (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217364)

Damn non-tweeters. Lock them all up and throw away the key, I say.

If we allow non-tweeters, what's next? Non-myspacers? Non-facebookers? It's utter madness!

Remain calm. (4, Funny)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217386)

Oh, hay guyz I juss got a tweet saying we need to chillax and GTFO sall cool tho cuz they let us kno on twit

Re:Remain calm. (2, Funny)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217442)

Oh, sorry about that, I capitalized the "I" and "GTFO" and "O" in "Oh". I also used one too many commas. I'm new at this, please forgive me.

Prediction: settlement in court for $$, blue omert (-1, Flamebait)

rsborg (111459) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217396)

This guy just got the go-ahead to file a wrongful arrest suit possibly netting some nice $$ and/or a formal apology.

Sad that the community will have to pay restitution (to the improperly arrested) for this kind of police incompetence, while the cops close ranks and continue the code of blue silence [wikipedia.org] ... and "authorities" wonder why their reputation is in shambles.

Re:Prediction: settlement in court for $$, blue om (1)

Goaway (82658) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217464)

Or, you know, you just took the bait dangled right in front of you, and totally failed to make any attempt to understand what the real situation was.

Riotous rumor (3, Insightful)

Silentknyght (1042778) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217420)

So, you already have an unruly crowd waiting for the arrival of someone special, and you want to effectively disseminate a rumor* that said special person isn't arriving? And that's supposed to calm the crowd down and get them to leave peacefully? Must be some new-age thinking, there...

*As previous poster(s) have mentioned, a message via twitter is only going to be received by a select few people who have access to twitter in that situation, and therefore, its only going to spread to everyone via word of mouth. In other words, a rumor.

Arrogant, thuggish cops (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217424)

The arrogance of these cops is astounding. Apparently they think that everyone who is not a cop is their slave. Arresting someone like that just because they failed to say "how high" when the police say "jump" is, in my opinion, simply criminal behavior.

Someone needs to waylay these cops in a dark alley and beat the shit out of them.

I'm no fan of music execs (1, Troll)

hamburgler007 (1420537) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217434)

But I hope he is exonerated, sues the fuck out of the county and wins. Not that he needs the money, but there needs to be a clear message sent that you can't twist the law any which way you please when you piss the authorities off.

Re:I'm no fan of music execs (1)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217788)

He is *not* being accused of "not tweetering", he's being accused of calling a huge crowd to appear without any kind of organization for the safety of the people present. The police had to come to clean up the shit he made, and asked him to tweet to prevent even more people showing up.

They got it backwards (1)

ShiningSomething (1097589) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217436)

Some people should be arrested for what they decide to tweet about.

Not about twitter (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217448)

It seems to me that this is more about the label executive not wanting all those people to leave, than anything about twitter.

It might have been something like this:

[Police]: Please, if this teen singer of yours shows up, all those girls might go crazy and we may have some serious crowd control problems here.
[Executive]: I'm not telling all those people that have come here for my "product" to go away.
[Police]: We are serious, please sir, tell them to go or we may have some problemes.
[Executive]: You can't tell me what to do!
[Police]: It's a crowd control situation, you have to cooperate.
[Executive]: Fuck you!
[Police]: Well... now you'll sleep in jail...

Re:Not about twitter (3, Informative)

DavidTC (10147) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217784)

I suspect the 'twitter' thing was the police telling him to ask more people not show up, via twitter.

That said, his refusing was not illegal, the police can't make people say things. Which is why he wasn't charged for anything like that.

But failing to try to migrate the danger during a mob (By directing people elsewhere) will almost certainly adversely affect his defense on the actual charges in court.

If there's a dangerous situation that you created and are in charge of, and the police are taking control and ask you to do something, well, often, they don't have legal grounds to make you do that thing, and you can refuse if you want.

And then you'll stand in front of the jury as the police recount that, while the danger's creation might have been unknowing, even after you were apprised of the danger of the situation, you knowingly refused to do things to migrate the danger. And, well, welcome to jail for creating that danger in the first place.

Whereas if, when you were told the crowd was turning into a mob, you made every effort to fix the situation, you often won't be charged at all, or just given a small fine.

USCR (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217452)

So now we're living in the United States of Communist Regime. Of course we have a lack of detailed information here. There could be more to the story than what this little blurb implies. But, these are no longer isolated cases. Stuff like this seems to be happening on a daily basis. Our rights are being violated at will, all the time. 1st thing I would be doing here is finding a good lawyer, and going after the department and the officers for false arrest. This kind of abuse has to stop.

YEAH!!! (0, Redundant)

fataugie (89032) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217490)

Arrest him! He's the problem!

Oh, Hello End Times....I thought you were here.....

It's a tough call.... (2, Funny)

ikefox (1566973) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217516)

As much as I hate that Youtuber douchebag Justin Bieber, I think the cops were probably pretty stupid for arresting him, especially considering what appear to be the facts. However, I'd be pretty pissed off if I was a cop and I had to disperse a mob of whiny, caffeinated teenage girls congregating over *that* guy too, so I can empathize. I still anticipate a false arrest case.

It was a near riot of teenage girls! (3, Funny)

sugapablo (600023) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217534)

Tweeting is the ONLY way to break up a riot of teenage girls!

First Amendment? (1)

overshoot (39700) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217540)

And here I thought that the Free Speech Clause applied equally to compelled speech.

Who knew?

Riot control in 140 characters or less. (2, Interesting)

gimmebeer (1648629) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217542)

Did they really expect everyone to suddenly chill out and go find something else to do because of a twitter post? I find this line of reasoning difficult to comprehend...then again they are cops.

Is this a joke? (1)

cts5678 (1383735) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217554)

This can't be serious.

My god, it's full of idiots... (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217558)

I'm pretty sure that he was tweeting to the crowd at the time he was asked to do this, and I'm pretty sure the crowd was reading those tweets, cause they reacted to a tweet about him being arrested. If an exec who helped disorganize (I can't say organize cause it wasn't) this event refuses to help disarm the situation then he should be arrested and charged. Idiots who don't bother to asses the whole situation and knee jerk that he was falsely arrested need to step back and smell the unruly crowd and if you haven't been in one of these you have no idea how dangerous it can become really quickly. Any steps to help keep them calm would help immensely even if it only reached 1 in 25 of them it would still have a calming effect.

Re:My god, it's full of idiots... (1)

BatsShadow (776317) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217744)

If an exec ... refuses to help disarm the situation then he should be arrested and charged.

What should he be charged with? I don't support laws that essentially say "the police can make you do whatever they want if they feel it is in the best interest of society."

Re:My god, it's full of idiots... (1)

Tired and Emotional (750842) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217804)

Quite right - that would limit the current police powers much too severely.

Crap (5, Informative)

wkurzius (1014229) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217588)

According to police, the crowd was broken up after safety concerns were raised, but Bieber's record exec, James Roppo, Tweeted that the singer was still signing. This caused fans to go berzerk and rush forward, breaking down barriers.

http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/Fans-of-Tween-King-Justin-Bieber-Cause-Mall-Riot/26650.html [limelife.com]

Roppo continued to tweet about the autograph signing even after it was canceled and ended up being arrested for reckless endangerment among other crimes.

http://military.rightpundits.com/2009/11/24/james-roppo-man-arrested-for-not-tweeting-cancellation-of-justin-bieber-event-photos/ [rightpundits.com]

Crappy summary linking to crappy reporting.

Re:Crap (1)

Knara (9377) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217684)

Sounds like the venue management's fault for not properly preparing for the crowd. Tweeting does not compel people to do anything, civil or uncivil.

Re:Crap (0, Troll)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217740)

But it's a chance to show everyone how truly evil the police are. Doesn't matter if it's true or not.

Re:Crap (0, Troll)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217816)

MOD PARENT UP.

Stupid summaries lead people to stupid conclusions.

Well, all I know is this -- (1)

dwiget001 (1073738) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217634)

Some lawyers are going to make a boat load of money over this.

scary (1)

zerosomething (1353609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217648)

I dont' know about you but there ain't much more scary than thousands of screaming 12 year old girls. They should throw the whole group in jail or messing with teenage hormones.

Wiggum (1)

Itninja (937614) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217650)

"Can't you people handle your own problems?....Do we have to police the entire town?"
Seriously though...isn't the summary a little misleading? The man was not arrest because he 'refused to tweet' anymore than someone arrested for not pulling over was arrested for 'refusing to turn slightly to the right (or left depending on the country)'.

I'm surprised I'm the first to ask.... (1)

Jager Dave (1238106) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217656)

....but WHO the frak is Justin Bieber, and do we care if he gets trampled? Granted, being arrested for not "tweeting" is a wrong on so many levels it's not even funny (I don't have a twitter account, don't plan on getting one any time soon), but still....

seems pretty reasonable to me (3, Insightful)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217686)

Stores, for example, are expected to at least talk to the local PD about traffic/crowd concerns, and engage in some common crowd control 'best practices', call the police if things look like they're getting out of control, etc. And sometimes, yeah, the cops say Pool's Closed if they think people are going to get hurt.

If the event was promoted on twitter, you're damn right it is reasonable to expect that it MIGHT be an effective communication tool. At the very least, it'll maybe stop MORE people from showing up. And if the cops said "look, there's this crazy crowd, it's going to get ugly, please help" and the guy won't- well, sorry, that's just being an asshat, and if people do get injured, I don't think an arrest and charge is out of the question. Then the DA has to decide it's worth prosecuting and the court has to decide if it's legit enough to go to trial. And then he gets a trial by jury if he wants it.

Lousy source (1)

clone53421 (1310749) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217692)

The source in TFA is a news/opinion article about this Newsday article [newsday.com] .

Alternative headline: (4, Funny)

Farmer Tim (530755) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217718)

Cops powerless against teenage girls.

I think I can see why they needed to arrest someone...

Riiight (1)

bondjamesbond (99019) | more than 4 years ago | (#30217760)

This is just a spun story courtesy of twitter's marketing dept. I call BS.

retarded... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30217818)

Who's to say the crowd, in danger according to this article, would read and take advice from Twitter? Besides, when a crowd like that endangers itself, all we can hope for is that they kill each other off with their immense stupidity. To them I say, get a life, and then don't endanger it out of infatuation.

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