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KDE Rebrands, Introduces KDE Plasma Desktop

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the postitioning-for-clarity dept.

KDE 364

Jiilik Oiolosse writes "The KDE community has killed the term K Desktop Environment (previously the Kool Desktop Environment). 'KDE' had previously ambiguously referred to both the community, and the complete set of programs and tools produced by the KDE community which together formed a desktop user interface. This set of tools, including the window manager, panels and configuration utilities, which KDE terms a 'workspace,' will now be shipped under the term 'KDE Plasma Desktop.' This allows KDE to ship a separate workspace called 'Plasma Netbook,' and independently market the various KDE applications as usable in any workspace, whether it be the Plasma Desktop, Windows, or XFCE."

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364 comments

SYNERGY! (0, Redundant)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231066)

Now they need to add SYNERGY!

Re:SYNERGY! (0)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231148)

A sparkling drop of synergy?

Re:SYNERGY! (1)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231174)

No they don't, you can install the synergy package yourself.

Re:SYNERGY! (1)

osoroco (626676) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231670)

yes, people who don't know what synergy is (or that the concept exist) are constantly puzzled at how my cursor hops from computer to computer

Re:SYNERGY! (1)

conteXXt (249905) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231892)

synergy(the software, NOT the buzzword) is awesome. I hope it never gets renamed to something I won't be able to find down the road.

Re:SYNERGY! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231908)

Your mom add synergy.

Wow (3, Insightful)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231072)

That won't be confusing.
I say that as a KDE user.

Re:Wow (5, Funny)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231406)

That won't be konfusing.
I say that as a KDE user.

There corrected that for you ;)

Re:Wow (5, Funny)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231478)

There korrected that for you ;)

*ahem* Fixed that for you.

Re:Wow (1)

NoYob (1630681) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231630)

That clarifies it!

I'm going to KFC for dinner - I don't know why I have to go eat there for some reason.

Re:Wow (1)

selven (1556643) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231672)

Don't you mean that clarifies it?

Also, what's the KFK?

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231922)

*ahem*: 'Fiksed'.

the triumph of buzzwords! (-1, Troll)

plasmacutter (901737) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231074)

just add "HD" "Plasma" "Giga-" or some other pseudo-scifi or pseudo-consumer-tech jargon to ANYTHING and suddenly it's 'cool'!.

I think i know where the people responsible for "SYFY" are spending their spare time.

quick everyone, pass the "plasma" shake-weights!

Re:the triumph of buzzwords! (-1, Troll)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231110)

"syfy" ???? Sounds like a freaking sexual disease, shared by gay little bastids who can't handle Sci-Fi.

FFS, if you mean space opera, say so. If you mean science fiction, then use terms that adults might recognize.

Re:the triumph of buzzwords! (0, Offtopic)

plasmacutter (901737) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231120)

"syfy" ???? Sounds like a freaking sexual disease, shared by gay little bastids who can't handle Sci-Fi.

FFS, if you mean space opera, say so. If you mean science fiction, then use terms that adults might recognize.

EXACTLY!

Re:the triumph of buzzwords! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231124)

He used that word because (afaik) the Space Channel changed their name to the SYFY network or something.

Re:the triumph of buzzwords! (1)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231192)

SciFi channel. They should have renamed to SciFi charnel, because they're dying.

Re:the triumph of buzzwords! (0, Offtopic)

stonedcat (80201) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231220)

SciFi changed their name to SyFy... not the space channel.

Re:the triumph of buzzwords! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231432)

that is not off topic you stupid moronic mod

Re:the triumph of buzzwords! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231518)

Now to be fair, "plasma" is the name of KDE4's new widgets engine (and widgets include everything from panels to "applets" to the desktop, in line with KDE's extensible/customisable SOP). It's not as if the term "plasma" has nothing to do with their product (arguably picking "plasma" as a name for their widget engine was a marketdroid-ish thing to do in the first place - but still preferable to "KDE Kwidgets Kengine").

KDE Plasma Desktop renamed (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231080)

Its now called GNOME.

Frist Ps0T (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231090)

Yeah!!!

Clarity? (3, Insightful)

cgenman (325138) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231094)

Great! Now Linux will still have two major competing desktops. But now one of them could be one of several separate versions, or some applications on a different desktop, or a version of Windows running Koffice. Thanks, clarity committee!

Re:Clarity? (1)

FooAtWFU (699187) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231100)

Ah, it'll be fine. We'll just rename the alternative windowing system's distribution 'Plasmubuntu'.

(*shudder*)

Re:Clarity? (4, Funny)

N3Roaster (888781) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231746)

You mean Pubuntu. May not want a brown color scheme on that one.

Re:Clarity? (3, Funny)

R.Mo_Robert (737913) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231224)

Thanks, Klarity Kommittee!

There, fixed that for you.

Re:Clarity? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231328)

Thanks, Klarity Kommittee!

There, fixed that for you.

Well put, you insensitive klot!

Re:Clarity? (3, Funny)

Ibiwan (763664) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231422)

I think you mean the KDE Klari.... wait, never mind.

Re:Clarity? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231436)

Thanks, Klarity Kommittee!

Tharity Thommittee!

Re:Clarity? (1)

mr_lizard13 (882373) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231752)

Kheers!

Re:Clarity? (1)

vlm (69642) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231228)

Thanks, clarity committee!

Uh, that would be "klarity", not "clarity" thanks.

Re:Clarity? (5, Insightful)

TheModelEskimo (968202) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231252)

Two? Linux will always have a million+ competing desktops. Linux is there to be customized, man, from the kernel on up. The fact that we currently think of the desktop as some specific thing is messing you up. Think about workflows. Think about a personal brand of work-fu or play-fu that you develop in partnership with your Linux machines. Your workflow is so good, you take on an apprentice to teach it to. He's thanking his lucky stars that someone who can create workflow experiences like you can would be willing to let him in the door to learn the trade.

I've said it before: You talk like Windows(TM) and Mac OS (TM) are these wonderful things because they're monoliths. But we've learned from monoliths and their creators that there is no "clarity" in that direction, only broken promises. One size doesn't fit all. The new landscape of devices and interfaces will give you clarity and specificity in exchange for your old monolith. If you won't trade it in, prepare to be left in the dust.

We'll look back at monolithic desktop computing and wonder what on earth kind of idiots we were to sit in front of this thing all day, all using the same basic type of chair, same keyboard with carpal tunnel syndrome included, and interfaces that worked like something only a masochist would use.

Anyway, back to writing another Nautilus script.

Re:Clarity? (5, Insightful)

camperdave (969942) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231364)

One size does fit all from a support point of view. If I want to walk a windows user through changing the desktop resolution, it's easy. If I want to find out which printer is their default printer, again easy. Good luck doing those in linux. Everything is all over the place. Linux will not gain mainstream acceptance until it is easy to support.

Re:Clarity? (1)

Korin43 (881732) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231442)

Question 1: To get to your applications, there is a button on the top or bottom corner of the screen. Is it a K or a foot print? After that ask questions related to KDE or Gnome. It's not that difficult. Much easier in fact than convincing someone to tell you what version of Windows they have.

Re:Clarity? (1)

an unsound mind (1419599) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231724)

More often than not neither; I usually use wmii, fluxbox or Xfce4.

Re:Clarity? (0, Redundant)

vlm (69642) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231474)

If I want to walk a windows user through changing the desktop resolution, it's easy. Good luck doing those in linux.

ssh -X into the machine, and run:

xdpyinfo | grep dimensions

I have no idea why "a low end non power user" would know or care what their display resolution is. Its like complaining that linux is not ready for the desktop because a sterotypical grannie would have a hard time setting up a hard-realtime CNC controller. Who cares?

I don't print much. Didn't even own a printer from 1995 thru 2009. Based on my recent experiences, seems that changing the default printer is much simpler than understanding the concept of even having a default printer, or the concept of being able to print to multiple printers.

Re:Clarity? (5, Insightful)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231502)

I have no idea why "a low end non power user" would know or care what their display resolution is.

"Is there a way I can make my screen bigger?"

"The power went out, and when I turned my computer on, everything was really big and now I have to scroll to see anything."

...

I don't know what end users you know, but the ones I know definitely care :)

Re:Clarity? (5, Interesting)

Tanktalus (794810) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231756)

I have no idea why "a low end non power user" would know or care what their display resolution is.

"Is there a way I can make my screen bigger?"

"The power went out, and when I turned my computer on, everything was really big and now I have to scroll to see anything."

...

I don't know what end users you know, but the ones I know definitely care :)

I've never seen xorg.conf get corrupted the way the windows registry can. And that's probably partly because the xorg.conf is not open in read/write mode, nor with pending changes currently cached by some part of the system (fs cache, hd cache, etc.). Because it's read-only, owned by root (which you're usually not logged in as), and, heck, not even opened after X loads up, it's highly unlikely to be damaged by a power failure. Meanwhile, Windows keeps that information in the registry, which is probably opened in read/write mode at all times, with far too much access given to normal applications that may damage this particular part of the registry, and with pending writes that may be interrupted by the power failure, resulting in a partially corrupted registry. So you need to know how to do that on Windows.

That said, I'd simply point them to krandr (I'm assuming kde here, though I suspect there's a gnome equivalent) and let them play with it. It sits nicely in the system tray, too. Dynamic changes to the resolution? Just as easy as on Windows. Like anything else, though, only once you know where to look. (krandr will remember its setting and go back to it during log-in, so it's still permanent even though you don't have write access to the xorg.conf file. Just like things should be.)

Re:Clarity? (1)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231496)

Everything is all over the place. Linux will not gain mainstream acceptance until it is easy to support.

If you're in a situation where you need to support a lot of Linux machines, use the same desktop on all of them. If someone wants to use something else, make it clear that you won't be able to walk them through common fixes. Don't be a dick about it though; if someone wants the login details for the IMAP server, don't say "oh I can't tell you because I can't walk you through how to set up kmail", just tell them the details and if they can't figure out out, tough.

Re:Clarity? (1)

TheModelEskimo (968202) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231524)

Hm, you're looking at next week; my post is looking at next decade. The "support" you offer now will be vastly different, and changing screen resolution will be long obsolete except in enthusiast (read: hacker) markets.

The futuristic thing most closely related to screen resoluation is screen magnification, which will have been abstracted even further from the hardware in 10 years. If you've already used a system that has it, you might know why it's better, and different.

Re:Clarity? (5, Insightful)

causality (777677) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231652)

One size does fit all from a support point of view. If I want to walk a windows user through changing the desktop resolution, it's easy. If I want to find out which printer is their default printer, again easy. Good luck doing those in linux. Everything is all over the place. Linux will not gain mainstream acceptance until it is easy to support.

What follows is my personal opinion. Ideally, Linux can be the one (or one of the few) environment that caters to users who are technically inclined, know what they're doing, and either already know how to handle desktop resolutions and printers or are willing to combine basic literacy with Google in order to inform themselves. Users who don't want to learn how the machine works already have two major systems designed specifically for them: Windows and OSX. To me it makes perfect sense that Linux would be Open Source because Microsoft and Apple both recognize that the real money is gained by appealing to the general public and the general public is nearly technophobic.

I say that because I strongly believe that anyone who is literate and has access to Google can inform themselves. There is no conspiracy or secret cabal trying to hide any of the information one would need in order to understand any system I have named. It's out there, it's available, and it's accessible; it's purely a case of the average person not wanting to utilize it or otherwise to educate themselves. These are the folks who find "easy to use" and "supported by a vendor"** worth paying for. Therefore, the beauty of Open Source allows Linux to exist independently of the financial success of any particular company or organization so there is no reason to appease a crowd that major vendors already cater to. I also don't believe Linux could hope to displace Windows on the desktop without sacrificing many of the things I really enjoy about it. For these reasons, I am not concerned with whether Linux will ever bankrupt Microsoft and I don't view that as its purpose.


** I am far less familiar with OSX so I'll limit my comment here to Windows and Linux. I'll add that I don't really think Windows is very easy to use. I personally find it cumbersome, sometimes tedious, and sometimes difficult to automate. I would describe Windows as "easy to learn" but learning all about it doesn't make it much more convenient to use. I would describe Linux as having a much steeper learning curve by comparison, particularly if you are thorough and intend to master the command line. However, once the investment of overcoming that learning curve is made, you then find yourself with a system that doesn't get in your way or second-guess your actions. The more you master Linux, the more you can automate and the more you can get it to do with less and less effort on your part. The more you learn about it, the easier it is to perform complex tasks with an economy of expression that is difficult to find in a non-Unix system.

Also, the times I have needed support for Linux, what I found was a community of volunteers who welcomed me with open arms and provided a level of support that rivals or exceeds anything you would get with a commercial support contract. All of this was from volunteers who do what they do because they care. I believe that part of what made this possible is that the questions they were answering concerned real bugs and real problems. They were not drowning in a sea of trivial issues of the sort that are well-familiar to anyone who has ever worked a front-line technical support role. This allowed them to focus their efforts on issues that really did require the attention of experts which, in my opinion, makes a big difference.

Re:Clarity? (2, Interesting)

chromatic (9471) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231868)

Linux will not gain mainstream acceptance until ....

Almost every sentence I've read which starts that way ends differently. This leads me to believe that customization is, in fact, important.

Re:Clarity? (1)

RiotingPacifist (1228016) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231284)

Well hopefully it will kill the misconception that you have to use one DE or another.

Re:Clarity? (1)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231312)

Obviously we have come to the proverbial fork in the road.

Re:Clarity? (1)

mugurel (1424497) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231540)

“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.” Albert Einstein

Re:Clarity? (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231624)

Well, I would guess the difference between KDE desktop and netbook would be like Ubuntu and Ubuntu Netbook Remix, not heard any complaints there. And for the other part, there the division already exists you just don't hear much about it. Many KDE4 applications run on Windows now, so already there's a confusion since KOffice does in fact run outside KDE the environment.

after reading the summary 3 times... (2, Funny)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231102)

...I couldn't help but think of this scene from Red Dwarf [youtube.com] .

Re:after reading the summary 3 times... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231248)

No kidding. I even RTFA (there's a first time for everything) and I still don't get it.
So I understand that KDE will now be the name of a group of people, rather than a desktop environment.
I also understand this change was made to solve some perceived marketing problem.
I just don't know what that problem was.
Is it to keep people from thinking you can't run KDE apps on Windows?

Re:after reading the summary 3 times... (1)

confusedneutrino (732640) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231430)

I was super excited to click that link until I realized that it didn't say Red Dawn. Le sigh...

K? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231108)

I thought the K stood for Krap. Serious users use a shell or Gnome.

Re:K? (1)

derrida (918536) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231130)

I thought it stood for KDE. You know KDE Desktop Environment. Funny that I cannot recall where I've seen that before.

PHP Hypertext Preprocessor (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231494)

PHP Hypertext Preprocessor

Re:K? (1)

JesseMcDonald (536341) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231514)

I believe their official position—prior to the rebranding—was that the "K" doesn't stand for anything. As written in the summary, KDE expands to "K Desktop Environment", which is not a recursive acronym.

KPD! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231562)

Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands!

Nice to see some sweet props to germany's communist party! (which doesn't exist anymore, so only fitting for there to be a follow-up project)

Re:K? (2, Insightful)

BluenoseJake (944685) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231208)

A shell I can get behind, but Gnome? That dumbed down baby GUI? Get serious

Re:K? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231450)

Fine. Use WindowMaker :)

Serious users use CDE anyway :D

Re:K? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231800)

It's a shitload better than Plasma is. Even with the super flaky 2.28 release, Gnome is more stable, has a better feature set, provides better application integration (even though its design more closely resembles a clusterfuck) and, aside from the panel, looks nicer than KDE a this point. Besides this, it uses a lot less memory.

I used to love KDE, too, when it was in the 3.5 series, but every distro I care about started replacing KDE 3.x with 4.x the moment 4.0 rolled out the door (complete with showstopper bugs, like not having a desktop to speak of, not being able to set a wallpaper, and being able to not crash for more than five minutes) forced me to Gnome. While I agree it's a far cry from what KDE 3.5 was, it's a lot better than KDE 4.

Let me guess (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231230)

you use windows.

Re:Let me guess (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231714)

Because I actually want to use my computer rather than spend Thanksgiving weekend trying to figure out how to make some distro recognize my sound card.

Re:Let me guess (1)

agnosticnixie (1481609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231956)

That's why I set up these things first, instead of waiting until thanksgiving weekend to set things up.

Re:K? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231424)

No, you have it backwards, as the summary states, the K in KDE is for Kool, as in Kio slave. Where as the G in Gnome stands for Garbage as in GTK.

So it's: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231118)

KPD now?

(And saying the community did [blank] is very misleading.)

The New KDE! (1)

boudie2 (1134233) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231128)

The new KDE makes your whites whiter and your brights brighter. They've lost direction.

Re:The New KDE! (1)

Tanktalus (794810) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231814)

Oddly, it actually does. I've enabled both the "Dialog Parent" and "Dim Inactive" desktop effects, basically darkening everything other than where my focus is, which, in effect, makes that application whiter and brighter than everything else. That contrast gives the illusion of whiter/brighter, which has actually helped my productivity on the machine.

Making the whites whiter and the brights brighter does seem to be part of their direction.

Waste of time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231144)

Ubuntu manga and now this crap? People think I stay away from Ubuntu and KDE because they're mainstream. Actually, I stay away from them because they focus too much on superfluous crap like this.

Spend more time writing good software than re-branding it and wasting resources trying to sell it off to everyone in the world.

This is why (in the future) we can't have nice things.

Re:Waste of time (2, Funny)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231268)

Maybe this is the FOSS implementation of the Mohave trick.

Re:Waste of time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231640)

Yes because the KDE people can only do one thing at a time and stopped writing software while other people did naming and branding.

Krap (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231156)

yes its true.

Wrods for mare mortals (0, Flamebait)

future assassin (639396) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231176)

Is is hard to get together over a few beers and come up with a catchy names that everyday joe and jane will remember. Plasma? My mom would be like WTF is PLASMA. When she needed to edit some photos I got her to download GIMP. You know know what she said... Only after I explained to her what is was did she kinda accept the name.

Re:Wrods for mare mortals (1)

vlm (69642) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231242)

Plasma? My mom would be like WTF is PLASMA.

Selling plasma to buy a KDE netbook, of course?

Re:Wrods for mare mortals (5, Insightful)

arose (644256) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231568)

WTF is Aqua? WTF is Glass? WTF is Snow Leopard? WTF is Safari? WTF do I need to Access? How in the world does one lauch a Word? WTF am I supposed to Excel at? WTF is Vista? WTF is Zune? WTF is that Blue Ray? WTF is in Ex Box 360? WTF is anything without lots of marketing money?

Re:Wrods for mare mortals (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231862)

WTF is Aqua? WTF is Glass? WTF is Snow Leopard? WTF is Safari? WTF do I need to Access? How in the world does one lauch a Word? WTF am I supposed to Excel at? WTF is Vista? WTF is Zune? WTF is that Blue Ray? WTF is in Ex Box 360? WTF is anything without lots of marketing money?

WTF?!?! *BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooAHAHAHAooooooAHAHAHAHAHA!!!*

great timing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231178)

The marketing wizards at the KDE project have done it again. After years of going neck and neck in the HDTV market, LCD is finally pulling ahead of plasma, to the point where manufacturers in the Far East are starting to abandon plasma altogether. In the minds of the public,

Plasma = dead horse

XFCE (3, Funny)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231188)

X fecce is awesome. Crap name though.

New acronym? (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231190)

It's now to be known as the KDEPDXFCE?

sounds exiting (4, Funny)

Punto (100573) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231226)

will it be able to leverage the synergies of social media 2.0 user-facing semantics?

Re:sounds exiting (3, Funny)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231386)

Yes. All mouse movements will send automatic twitter updates.

Re:sounds exiting (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231536)

Yeah, but only in the verticals of the cloud and similar cyber-chunnels.

Re:sounds exiting (1)

TheGreatOrangePeel (618581) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231588)

will it be able to leverage the synergies of social media 2.0 user-facing semantics?

You must be a consultant. Oh, wait, that was a question. You must be the manager of a team of software engineers.

Amarok on windows (1)

vlm (69642) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231276)

independently market the various KDE applications as usable in any workspace, whether it be the Plasma Desktop, Windows, or XFCE.

Where's my Amarok on winders, and why does a simple port need all kinds of name changing foolishness?

Re:Amarok on windows (2, Informative)

Simon (S2) (600188) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231522)

Where's my Amarok on winders, and why does a simple port need all kinds of name changing foolishness?

uhm... here? [kde.org] together with all other available platforms?

Gibberish (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231294)

There are only two appropriate responses to that summary:

- huh?
- wut?

Re:Gibberish (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231342)

You forgot "Who cares?"

I want (1)

Saija (1114681) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231320)

my Plasma Wristwatch [linuxjournal.com] , or KDE Plasma Wristwatch:

KDE Workspace
KDE provides workspaces. These provide the environment for running and managing applications and integrate interaction of applications. The workspaces are designed as generic environment for all kinds of desktop applications, not only applications built on the KDE Platform. They integrate best with applications following the standards used by the KDE Platform. There are different flavors of the workspace to address the needs of specific groups of users or adapt to specific hardware platforms:

  • Plasma Desktop or KDE Plasma Desktop. This is the workspace for desktop computers. It's built on the classical paradigm of a desktop environment.
  • Plasma Netbook or KDE Plasma Netbook. This is the workspace for computers with a small display, e.g. Netbooks.
  • Future KDE workspaces tailored to specific devices will follow a similar naming scheme

Re:I want (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231374)

I run ubuntu on my eeepc 701, which has a smaller screen than most other netbooks and I find the stock gnome to be perfectly okay.

So if they've changed the name... (1, Redundant)

BlindSpot (512363) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231336)

kDoes kthis kmean kwe kcan kstop kputting kk kbefore keverything know?

Re:So if they've changed the name... (4, Funny)

H0p313ss (811249) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231370)

Kno!

Re:So if they've changed the name... (1)

Zorael (1422609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231412)

It's gnot as if gnome gisn't gdoing gthis gtoo. gggg.

Re:So if they've changed the name... (2, Insightful)

masmullin (1479239) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231516)

jThey jstole jit jfrom java.

Re:So if they've changed the name... (2, Funny)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231556)

Ask the KDE Kommunity Kommittee (KKK).

Re:So if they've changed the name... (1)

selven (1556643) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231692)

"Krusty Kharity Klassic"

Krusty: KKK? That's not good!

Dammit slashdot (2, Informative)

Jello B. (950817) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231388)

No they didn't, they renamed it the KDE Software Compilation. Get your god damn facts right.

They got it backwards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231398)

FTA:

KDE is no longer software created by people, but people who create software.

They could have called the community K, or come up with a new name. It makes no sense to call the community KDE.

Ah Yes, Young Padawan Learner (0, Flamebait)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231408)

They seemed to have learned the most important rule of marketing; what you're trying to push out is irrelevant, just make sure to hang one of the latest kewl words on it. You could sell dog shit if you called it Canine Feces X!

Re:Ah Yes, Young Padawan Learner (1)

hrimhari (1241292) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231730)

I wouldn't go for anything less than Kanine X-Feces.

It's still X (1)

webmistressrachel (903577) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231480)

What gives with names like "HD", "Plasma" etc. for the same crappy product? If it's HD it should be 1080p or 720p at the least, plasma lives in space or your tokomak, or even in a screen, but if it's NOT plasma or HD we shouldn't be confusing and hyping these terms.

Also, no matter what you call it, It's still totally reliant on the graphics libraries, kludge and rubbish code that is X-Windows, or X11, or whatever that underlying monstrosity of a graphical desktop server is called or was forked into these days. Fix that whole stack, then call yourself "new". But not before.

You could, if you weren't so egotistical and exclusive with your "Gentlemen's Club" - LUGs and RMS I'm looking at YOU, you could, put your pride aside and take a leaf from Microsoft with the interface rewrite in Windows 7 - it's beautiful, consistent, reliable and FAST, and gives me exactly what I want as a user.

If not, Lunix can forever stay in my server room, where, to give it it's dues, you've rightfully earned a place.

Some Helpful Feedback: Keyboard control is terrible (I HATE the mouse and mousey users, LearnDirect, MCSE etc... if you can't type commands and solve problems even in Windows you can get out of my lab / off my lawn), no proper Start > Run... equivalent (no the ALT-F2 box in Gnome is not equivalent, and that stupid search thing, Beagle I think, is just cruft, bloat, spyware or all three), windows don't redraw themselves properly as I ALT-Tab to switch around, esp. if Firefox is running, and configuration is so kludged that I shout at it as I browse the menus looking for settings I saw yesterday, in a completely illogical place! In windows now I press the Windows(TM) key and start typing - a path in the filesystem or on the network, a web address, a control panel item, an installed program, a recently created file, etc..

Disclaimer: This is a flame, not flamebait, I want somebody to take this as feedback too, and I would switch if Linux catered to my home user side as well as my geeky command line urges!! I'm probably not the only one, either.

I hated M$ right up until Win7 RC, but nowasays I have to give them their dues. If you're not into the latest LOLCATz, social networking and opening stupid email attachments, and can run a NAT router, it's as secure as Linux is, too.

Stupid (5, Insightful)

realmolo (574068) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231542)

You know, the KDE guys just don't get it.

They almost remind me of Commodore, during the Amiga days. They have this really cool technology, but it doesn't work as well as you want it to and has some glaring deficiencies, and their marketing department is absolutely clueless.

Re:Stupid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231842)

They almost remind me of Commodore, during the Amiga days. They have this really cool technology, but it doesn't work as well as you want it to and has some glaring deficiencies, and their marketing department is absolutely clueless.

Except with the Amiga, it did work as well as you wanted it to, and its deficiencies weren't anything worth worrying about because the competition had even more glaring deficiencies.

Not sure about you folks... (1)

Smooth and Shiny (1097089) | more than 4 years ago | (#30231788)

...but I prefer XFCE to KDE.

Klone Desktop Environement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30231878)

because it was originaly developed as a clone of CDE.

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