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Live Report (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298174)

This is BBC news reporting live from LHC .... ~buzz~

Re:Live Report (-1, Offtopic)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298252)

It's a bees invasion from another dimension! Run for your life!

HEY DOUCHE CMDRTACO -- atomsmasher IS NOT A WORD (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298298)

Uhhh...why do you keep posting this garbage? Everything that you accept or write yourself is full of grammatical and spelling errors.

MOD PARENT UP (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298432)

Yeah, like slashdot was EVER journalism. Taco should fire himself after lynching kdawson and curbstomping timothy. Amen.

Re:HEY DOUCHE CMDRTACO -- atomsmasher IS NOT A WOR (4, Insightful)

thisnamestoolong (1584383) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298792)

Who cares, dude? Shakespeare made up hundreds of words. English is a living language -- if people weren't allowed to make up words we would have nothing to call that machine you are using to post this inane crap, nor for the medium by which we are all disgraced by your brain vomit.

Re:Live Report (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298314)

I'm covered in bees!

Re:Live Report (5, Funny)

2names (531755) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298496)

All the action around the LHC is getting pretty spooky...even from up close...

Re:Live Report (5, Funny)

allknowingfrog (1661721) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298646)

On an engineering feat of this scale, you're bound to encounter some serious obstacles. If Windows 7 suffers a debilitating break-down every other week, will we assume the future is trying to prevent Microsoft from destroying the world? Well...maybe that's a bad example.

Re:Live Report (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298740)

Way to take all the joy out of it, douche. I bet Christmas at your house is a fucking laugh riot...

FP! (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298180)

first particle!

I'm writing this comment from 2017 (5, Funny)

mantis2009 (1557343) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298184)

The power outage was my idea. You're welcome.

Re:I'm writing this comment from 2017 (4, Interesting)

Bombcar (16057) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298202)

Then why does your user name have 2009 in it?

Re:I'm writing this comment from 2017 (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298306)

Because his communication method is via Slashdot. He's creating a series of profiles, one for every year, that allow him to access and communicate with Slashdot in that time period. Duh.

Re:I'm writing this comment from 2017 (5, Funny)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298394)

That's the year he was born.

Re:I'm writing this comment from 2017 (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298526)

That's the year he was born.

Darned 8 year old think they know everything.

Re:I'm writing this comment from 2017 (4, Funny)

cpu_fusion (705735) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298266)

We are unable to transmit through conscious neural interference. You are receiving this broadcast as a dream. We are transmitting from the year two zero one seven.

Re:I'm writing this comment from 2017 (1)

Zarf (5735) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298442)

We are unable to transmit through conscious neural interference. You are receiving this broadcast as a dream. We are transmitting from the year two zero one seven.

Hey! You've had that dream too? I thought I was the only one.

Re:I'm writing this comment from 2017 (1)

JockTroll (996521) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298808)

You are receiving this broadcast in order to alter the events you are seeing. Our technology has not developed a transmitter strong enough to reach your conscious state of awareness, but this is not a dream. You are seeing what is actually occurring for the purpose of causality violation.

Re:I'm writing this comment from 2017 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298882)

Oh, damn. Not again. I thought we sorted that problem out in the 1980s!

Look, just don't install any full-length mirrors at the LHC and we should be fine.

Re:I'm writing this comment from 2017 (1, Offtopic)

mantis2009 (1557343) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298350)

Whoever modded this +1 Informative, you are awesome. I would +1 Funny your entire life if I could.

Re:I'm writing this comment from 2017 (1)

Zarf (5735) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298420)

Darn time-travelers always screwing up my plans for world domination!

Re:I'm writing this comment from 2017 (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298562)

I for one welcome our Earth-protecting overlords from the future.

Re:I'm writing this comment from 2017 (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298716)

Lucky bastard. You got the glory assignment, while all *I* got was the mission to go back to 1967 and stop disco from happening.

Well, I'm off. Time for the brothers Gibb to have a little "Tragedy" at sea.

video of the event (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298188)

Luckily some other website managed to capture a video of the event from the webcam's: http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

And once again, the world is safe (4, Funny)

Abreu (173023) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298194)

Thanks to the efforts of nameless heroes, the evil LHC has been foiled again, ensuring the survival of earth...

Re:And once again, the world is safe (0, Flamebait)

sbrown123 (229895) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298428)

I don't know why anyone would try to stop it. It is not like it will do anything besides collide high powered lasers.

Re:And once again, the world is safe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298668)

Geez. Read the name! The Large Hardon Collider will also collide hardons.

I don't care who you are. That's gotta hurt.

Re:And once again, the world is safe (3, Funny)

thisnamestoolong (1584383) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298858)

Well if that were the case, I am sure that you would be safe, as it is the Large Hardon Collider.

Zing! Thank you, I'll be here all week.

Future doesn't want to be discovered? (3, Interesting)

vvaduva (859950) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298200)

Anyone remember this? [timesonline.co.uk]

Re:Future doesn't want to be discovered? (5, Insightful)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298304)

Yeah, but that was BS. Fact is, collisions of higher energies occur in the upper atmosphere with a much higher frequency than they will in the LHC, and have been for billions of years. The LHC iself is only expected to operate for a few tens of years by comparison.

Hard science is hard. There is a lot that needs to go right for this to work, and any of apparently dozens upon dozens of things can make it hiccup. No spooky explanations necessary.

Re:Future doesn't want to be discovered? (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298582)

Okay. Color me stupid, but aren't there existing hardon colliders that function just fine, like the one in Brookhaven?

What they do right to get theirs to launch without all these issues?

As far as I know, the major difference with the LHC is scale.

Re:Future doesn't want to be discovered? (1)

jschen (1249578) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298678)

Okay. Color me stupid, but aren't there existing hardon colliders that function just fine, like the one in Brookhaven?

I'm not sure about any hardons colliding at Brookhaven. Hadrons, on the other hand...

Re:Future doesn't want to be discovered? (0)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298710)

> Okay. Color me stupid, but aren't there existing hardon colliders that function just fine, like the one in Brookhaven?

Hardon colliders are all on 4chan.

Re:Future doesn't want to be discovered? (1)

Bakkster (1529253) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298746)

The energy of the collisions at the LHC is higher, plain and simple. You need higher energies to explore certain types of physics, and the best way to increase energy is with a larger collider. The size is a function of the desired energy, not the goal itself.

Re:Future doesn't want to be discovered? (3, Insightful)

oGMo (379) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298756)

As far as I know, the major difference with the LHC is scale.

I'm not a physicist or whatever sort of engineer one is to build a giant collider. However, this strikes me the same as saying "company X has 10 servers and they manage to keep them working fine, why does Google have problems? the only major difference is scale!" Well, yes, yes it is.

Re:Future doesn't want to be discovered? (1)

Bazer (760541) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298374)

Funny you mention this. From the article:

"Maybe it was a birdy bread-bomber from the future," jokes Chris Stephens of the LHC Portal - referring to the well-known wingnut theory that that the mere possibility of the LHC unmasking certain phenomena engenders forces which act backwards through time to sabotage it before this can happen.

Re:Future doesn't want to be discovered? (1)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298714)

Anyone remember that doing something no one ever did is difficult ?

Re:Future doesn't want to be discovered? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298770)

Do not attribute to malice, what can be explained by stupidity... or something like that.

This is just 'Murphy', as in 'Murphy's Law', rearing his annoying head at in-opportune moments. This won't be the last fault, mishap, or failure we see with the LHC, so just sit back, relax, and enjoy the shenanigans. However, if you are an engineer at LHC, get to work triple checking EVERYTHING!

You're asking if anyone remembers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298806)

the same stupid meme that comes up everytime the LHC runs into a problem? Why gee, no, I don't remember that meme that morons like you post every other month.

Re:Future doesn't want to be discovered? (1)

noidentity (188756) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298812)

You're asking whether we remember a crackpot theory that was advanced less than two months ago? How could we forget it?

All new ultra-cool technologies have thier issues. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298204)

Have you ever tried to dab ointment on a swimming shark?!?! Noooooo. You haven't. The scale-rot around the laser mounting points was terrrible in the beginning, but that Safeway-Brand polysporin does the trick.

Nothing to see here.

Re:All new ultra-cool technologies have thier issu (1)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298780)

Have you ever tried to dab ointment on a swimming shark?!?! Noooooo. You haven't. The scale-rot around the laser mounting points was terrrible in the beginning, but that Safeway-Brand polysporin does the trick.

Sharks do not have scales.

Sharks have dermal denticles - teeth embedded in their skin.

Who really built this thing? eMachines? (1, Funny)

King_TJ (85913) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298220)

The "uptime" on this collider is worse than an application server running on Windows 3.0!

Large Hardon Collider *ouch* (4, Funny)

ExE122 (954104) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298222)

From the article:

We ourselves find it hard not to suspect the involvement of some pan-dimensional police force, seeking to prevent humanity acquiring parallel-universe portal capability before we're ready to use it responsibly.

I have devoted a large portion of my life to playing countless hours of Doom and Halflife, reading Kurt Vonnegut novels, and watching numerous reruns of Quantum Leap and Sliders... I think I'm "ready to use it"!

Oh, wait... "responsibly"... hmm...

Re:Large Hardon Collider *ouch* (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298292)

I used to call it the Hardon collider too.

Huh? (5, Funny)

R2.0 (532027) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298232)

Does Europe not produce competent electrical engineers? I mean, their plugs are so superior...

Re:Huh? (5, Funny)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298634)

At least they didn't measure the cable run in furlongs only to have the supplier deliver in bushels. Before the plug fell out of the wall.

Minor inconvenience (5, Informative)

Shrike82 (1471633) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298236)

Since the title and summary are short on details, brace yourself, I read the article. From TFA:

"Diesels cut in OK" noted the controllers, adding that the Meyrin site is now drawing limited grid power from an alternative connection via the Prevessin site. The boffins don't anticipate resuming operations until at least 12:00 local time today.

So it was just a temporary glitch. Move along people, nothing to see here...

Re:Minor inconvenience (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298418)

Move along people, nothing to see here...

OMG, people from the future have vaporized the Large Hadron Collider?!

Re:Minor inconvenience (2, Funny)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298666)

> OMG, people from the future have vaporized the Large Hadron Collider?!

Those bastards!

Nice work. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298264)

Nice work, Professor Lester Knight Chaykin.

Birdy bread-bomber from the future (0, Redundant)

Barryke (772876) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298288)

FTA

"Maybe it was a birdy bread-bomber from the future," jokes Chris Stephens of the LHC Portal - referring to the well-known wingnut theory that that the mere possibility of the LHC unmasking certain phenomena engenders forces which act backwards through time to sabotage it before this can happen.

Dang those future guys (0, Redundant)

gestalt_n_pepper (991155) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298322)

Interfering with our research. I say we go and kick thei

Re:Dang those future guys (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298538)

Interfering with our research. I say we go and kick thei

NO CARRIER?

Take it easy people ... (1, Redundant)

abbynormal brain (1637419) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298348)

Following 1912, we learned how to properly top "water-tight" containers on ships (Titanic)
In 1940 we took bridge building back to the drawing board (Tacoma Narrows Bridge)
In 1996 we slapped a mathematician for not properly handling floating point decimals - it only cost $6M (Ariane 5)

We learned so much from these things and it was bound to happen with the LHC as well. I mean, c'mon! It only cost ... hmm ... how much did it cost. Let me see here (Checks Popular Science) ... $6 BILLION! WTF?! Forget what I said, get a rope!

Re:Take it easy people ... (3, Interesting)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298596)

It's the most complicated and precise piece of engineering ever created. Yeah, it's touchy.

Re:Take it easy people ... (2, Insightful)

ultramk (470198) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298828)

...Yes, it cost $6b.

To put this in perspective, the Bradley Fighting Vehicle program cost $5.6b, and the resulting machine sucks.

Which is the bigger waste?

M-

LHC Knocked Out By Another Power Failure (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298354)

There is a frantic search on to find out who was microwaving popcorn in the break room when this occurred.

I hope it's true (2, Interesting)

AlphaBit (1244464) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298410)

I'm not sure how much the LHC has actually ended up costing.
I don't know if it's possible to prove this time-travelling higgs theory without attempting to build several more LHC scale colliders.

But if it's true, the cost has/will have been worth it. Maybe it's not in the list of breakthrough discoveries we were hoping for, but wouldn't it be mind-bogglingly amazing anyway? I don't think pure science gets much better.

Re:I hope it's true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298606)

It's interesting that we live in a universe that finds the higgs boson so abhorrent that it will actually travel back in time to prevent it's creation, and yet Sarah Palin's book is allowed to exist.

Too much LHC QQ (1)

HuckleCom (690630) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298444)

Maybe it's just me - but it's like the U.S. media when all we see are 'LHC fails this, LHC fails that', not even newsworthy here. A town without power is a bigger deal than this but we don't spam /. about it...

What's that widget? (1)

stei7766 (1359091) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298450)

Anyone know what that fried out component is in the picture on TFA?

Re:What's that widget? (2, Funny)

Shrike82 (1471633) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298500)

You don't recognise it?! That's the Flux Capacitor! My God man, hand in your geek card immediately!

Looks like an insulator bushing... (3, Informative)

Ellis D. Tripp (755736) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298568)

which flashed over. They don't actually what the bushing is ATTACHED to, which could be almost anything. Such bushings are the standard terminal connections on HV switchgear such as transformers, capacitors, reclosers, etc. The bushing itself is most likely replaceable individually, though.

Hopefully, it just flashed over from foreign debris (another baguette?), and did little damage except to itself. Such a flashover should have tripped upstream circuit breakers, resulting in the power outage.

Re:What's that widget? (5, Funny)

damien_kane (519267) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298592)

Anyone know what that fried out component is in the picture on TFA?

I'm pretty sure it's Amy Winehouse
I could be wrong, though

News of the outage emerged ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298466)

News of the outage emerged when keen amateur LHC-watchers

I haven't noticed anything particular on my watch (more than 100 refreshes since this morning) ...

http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/

I know what it is (0, Flamebait)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298488)

Stupid black holes are now being emitted and going into power plants. Thank God that it was done in an area that believes in science. Here in the states, we would have a large group (republicans) screaming that it goes against God and we are not suppose to find out nature's secrets (unless it can be turned into a new WMD as laid out by the bible ) and a very small group of ppl screaming that it is destroying the environment (extremist greenies).

Bagel (0, Redundant)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298532)

Was it another bird with a bagel crumb?

The first 6 billion dollars doesn't include bagel protection. That is an additional 6 billion.

Re:Bagel (1)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298712)

Why is this "funny"?

All the bagel jokes were used up in TFA ... I only assume neither author nor mods actually read it.

Welcome to slashdot...

WHen CERN was asked why (0, Redundant)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298636)

the web site information about the Large Hadron Collider had disappeared, they said "What Large Hadron Collider?" Jump into there new Ferrari and sped off to the airport.

engineers vs. scientists (0, Troll)

Lord Ender (156273) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298700)

This is what happens when you send scientists and academics to do the work experienced engineers should be doing.

Academics don't even see failure like this as a bad thing. It's an interesting point of study, which may help them learn, etc.. Engineers just want to make shit work, so they overengineer the parts that make them nervous, do component testing ahead of time, and generally make things happen.

Alew (2, Insightful)

imsabbel (611519) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298796)

Say snotty engineers that cant do shit right

Hey, the damage was on a surface electricity line. Which was most likely installed by the power company running that part of the grid. I am sure no scientist bothered to work on it.

Sabotage? (3, Funny)

Orion Blastar (457579) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298718)

I Can't Stand It I Know You Planned It
I'ma' Set It Straight This Watergate
I Can't Stand Rockin' When I'm In Here
'Cause Your Crystal Bal Ain't So Crystal Clear
So While You Sit Back And Wonder Why I Got This Fuckin' Thorn In My Side
Oh My God It's A Mirage
I'm Tellin' Y'all It's Sabotage

So many people want the LHC to fail or stop so it won't "destroy the world, hur hur hur" so is it possible someone has been sabotaging it from the inside or even outside?

Too big to fail (1)

freeasinrealale (928218) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298742)

So its us v. the future. And we ARE gonna win. Spent too much on the LHC. Too big to fail. Failure is not an option. Damn!

The sign of the failure of particle physics (1, Informative)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298758)

Is that actually they still have to rely on backup Diesels. It takes technology over 100 years old to keep the LHC running in a power outage. Schroedinger did his best work over 80 years ago. The Manhattan project was successful over 60 years ago. Yet we still have to rely on lumps of metal being banged around by crude chemical combustion to provide backup power for cutting edge research.

Janitorial services revealed as the culprit (2, Funny)

motherjoe (716821) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298834)

This just in.... LHC had an abrupt power failure.

Our field reporter at CERN is providing his update..... "Well at first we thought we had yet another problem with the LHC." reports a source who wishes to be anonymous. "Well, we are now pretty sure it was just Ed. Ed comes in on Wednesdays to clean up in the Lab. Soon as he plugged in that damn hoover all the breakers tripped."

So there you have it, a hoover and $39.95 breaker brought it all the a halt today. :)

Is this news anby more? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30298856)

The LHC is on. It's off. It's on and off and on and off...maybe it's Schrodinger's LHC.

OMG a scientist farted and the LHC died, again.

Tell me when it actually does something interesting, like, say, particle collision.

$6 billion and it's accomplished precisely nothing but break the record for biggest waste of energy and the most fragile machine ever built.

No Star Trek jokes in this thread, oh, sorry... (1, Offtopic)

hughbar (579555) | more than 4 years ago | (#30298864)

I'd just like to warn people from posting:

Scotty, I need more power!

style jokes here, I'm just quoting, not actually making the joke itself...
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