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Dad Delivers Baby Using Wiki

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the 9cm-edited dept.

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sonamchauhan writes "A Londoner helped his wife deliver their baby by Googling 'how to deliver a baby' on his mobile phone. From the article: 'Today proud Mr Smith said: "The midwife had checked Emma earlier in the day but contractions started up again at about 8pm so we called the midwife to come back. But then everything happened so quickly I realized Emma was going to give birth. I wasn't sure what I was going to do so I just looked up the instructions on the internet using my BlackBerry."'"

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I recently needed to learn how to set a live trap (4, Funny)

Vandil X (636030) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450140)

...to catch a critter that got into my basement.

God bless mobile Internet.

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (5, Funny)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450220)

Was it a boy or a girl?

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450434)

It was a Wii Gameboy

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450478)

Now, I think it's a little early to start imposing roles on it, don't you?

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (4, Funny)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450250)

I learned how to clean up forensic evidence from my basement....

Thank you Wikipedia!

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (5, Informative)

Achromatic1978 (916097) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450374)

The most annoying bit is that Wikipedia has latched onto this... it had nothing to do with Wikipedia [wikipediareview.com] ... but was in fact "WikiHow", completely independent.

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (3, Insightful)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450662)

Which is particularly annoying because deletionists will be happy to tell you that Wikipedia Is Not A Manual Or Guidebook, so this could never have happened with Wikipedia in the first place.

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (4, Interesting)

iamacat (583406) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450838)

I previously challenged anyone to link to a wikipedia article which is provably wrong in a key fact presented and hasn't been corrected for more than a week. The best people came up with are spelling errors and questionable references. So as far as I am concerned, peer review system makes Wikipedia more reliable than an average printed manual or guidebook where any mistakes couldn't have been corrected since I bought it.

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30451418)

Apparently I did not receive your challenge, sir. I regularly correct absolute, unequivocal errors in Wikipedia articles. I find that most of these errors are introduced when some over-ambitious editor with no domain knowledge decides that he or she is going to clean-up an article. Most of the errors go undetected until someone with an attention to detail finds that parts of the article don't add up. This is because they were included in a huge clean-up and don't stand out in the change history. The clean-up was performed by the person who cares most about the article, so that leaves the errors to be found by someone who cares far less about the accuracy of the article.

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (0)

RonnyJ (651856) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451428)

That's quite a flawed conclusion to come to. Sure, each individual inaccuracy may be corrected in a reasonable time. But you're completely ignoring that other inaccuracies may be added during that same time period.

You say Wikipedia is "more reliable than an average printed manual or guidebook where any mistakes couldn't have been corrected since I bought it" - a printed manual or guidebook doesn't have any extra mistakes added to it either, but Wikipedia certainly might have.

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (1)

Golddess (1361003) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450270)

Wait, if you were home, why would you need mobile internet? Or were there other circumstances keeping you from accessing your home net connection?

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (5, Funny)

FatdogHaiku (978357) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450590)

Wait, if you were home, why would you need mobile internet? Or were there other circumstances keeping you from accessing your home net connection?

Because he did not want to have to Goggle "how to clean afterbirth off of a laptop"...

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (4, Funny)

Brandee07 (964634) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450280)

The internet can be used to answer all sorts of questions! I recently left my laptop unattended in the living room, and when I came back "How to get a threesome in Dragon Age" was in the search box.

The only question now is which one of my roommates needed to resort to a FAQ to figure that one out...

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (1)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450282)

...to catch a critter that got into my basement.

Yeah, it's called get a cat ;)

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450336)

I recently needed to learn how to set a live trap to catch a critter that got into my basement.
God bless mobile Internet.

Peanut butter and chocolate.
This also works for catching girls.

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (4, Funny)

skine (1524819) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450352)

I think your sig actually paraphrases what the article said.

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (2, Funny)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450406)

If one doesn't know how to, how does one learn to google something on the internet?

Re:I recently needed to learn how to set a live tr (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450506)

Just Bing it.

Cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450146)

Back in the day, you had to have "Do it yourself Open Heart Surgery" or the like if you encountered a crisis.

Re:Cool (4, Funny)

NotBornYesterday (1093817) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450556)

The baby didn't cry at first. Then it realized that its own father had just used a user-editable, non-authoritative guide to performing a life-and-death medical procedure, and it hasn't stopped crying since.

Re:Cool (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450884)

What's so life-and-death (read: dangerous) about giving birth? My pet hamster can do it all by itself, and it's probably the dumbest creature on the planet.

Re:Cool (2, Informative)

Rene S. Hollan (1943) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451328)

Until the first hospitals for deliveries were set up the death rate for women in childbirth was around 16%.

I'd say those would be dicey odds for anyone delivering without emergency equipment or trained medical staff nearby,

Now, if a midwife was to have performed the delivery, this mother to be was likely deemed "low risk", so sampling bias will apply if we look at "home births where the midwife was late", but giving birth is not exactly risk-free.

The Yahoo answers version (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450176)

how is babby delivered?

Nope.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30451126)

More like "how is babby dalevrd"

If you think that the person who started the meme could spell "delivered" properly, you have much more faith in humanity than I.

Blackberry? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450208)

I guess if there is not an app for that, there soon will be...

Re:Blackberry? (4, Funny)

potscott (539666) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450330)

There was, but Apple pulled it after complaints. It was called Shaken Baby or something similar...

I want his mobile data service (3, Funny)

dave562 (969951) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450254)

The AT&T EDGE service on my Blackberry would have delivered the information by the baby's 1st birthday if I was lucky. That is making the assumption that the built in browser could actually load the webpage.

What, no 3G? (1)

KingSkippus (799657) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450734)

You should make a commercial about your experience with AT&T. Oh wait, there's a SLAPP [wikipedia.org] for that...

(Yes, for the legal pedants out there, I know it's not the same, but nothing else rhymed quite the same. It's satire, lighten up already.)

great... (1)

aicrules (819392) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450258)

and with the story posted on slashdot, the article will soon be updated to lead dad-to-be to the strip club as a necessary part of birthing preparation....or tell them it actually comes out of a different hole

Re:great... (1)

NotBornYesterday (1093817) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450446)

or tell them it actually comes out of a different hole

That's how you know it's going to be a lawyer. ;)

(apologies to NewYorkCountryLawyer and cpt kangarooski)

Nawlinwiki was born on a wiki (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450260)

He ended up having his penis cut off with a citation needed tag.

This is Willy on Wheels here.

Fuck Pmdrive1061, J.delanoy, Pathoschild, Ryulong, MaterialScientist aka Essjay, Edgar181, SocalSuperEagle, MER-C, Godo Dodo and all the other fucked up admins.

A geeks geek... (5, Funny)

FrankSchwab (675585) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450266)

Anyone faced with a woman about to deliver, and their first thought is "I know, I'll go search around on google" is my hero.

Re:A geeks geek... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450514)

He better donate to wiki, since they could be credited with helping birth his child!

Re:A geeks geek... (2, Funny)

martin-boundary (547041) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451024)

Kids today! In my day, we didn't need Google for this. All we had was a swiss army knife and a mullet.

Is it really that hard? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450296)

Judging from the "article" it seems like he didn't really do anything; his wife just pushed the baby out and essentially the only thing he did was catch it. A few minutes later the midwife came back and cut the cord. Even a mouth-breathing moron could do that; there must be something else to the story, otherwise it is not newsworthy in the least.

Wife now loves Blackberry (2, Informative)

Caffeinated Geek (948530) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450312)

Leroy said before the birth of Mahalia on December 1, his wife disapproved of his BlackBerry because he was always playing with it but now she has "changed her tune".

For Once a Good Use of the Web (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450338)

Nice to know that there are people online who know where to look to bring life into the world rather than abuse it by looking at pornography all day. A nice turnaround for society. Bravo!

I'm inclined to suspect... (5, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450358)

That, if all the medical training that daddy received was a few minutes on Google, and things didn't go badly, the real headline ought to be: "Mother ejects baby in uncomplicated delivery"

The survival rates for childbirth without medical support are lousy enough to make medical support a generally good idea; but it isn't as though humans are exempt from the general mammalian ability to deliver live young without dying.

Re:I'm inclined to suspect... (5, Funny)

jamesh (87723) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450618)

the real headline ought to be: "Mother ejects baby in uncomplicated delivery"

What on earth has the mother got to do with it???

Re:I'm inclined to suspect... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450824)

What on earth has the mother got to do with it???

I understand you are a geek and don't really get these "women" creatures - let along the concept of conception and childbirth - but, dude, get a clue!

Re:I'm inclined to suspect... (3, Insightful)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450898)

The survival rates for childbirth without medical support are lousy enough to make medical support a generally good idea; but it isn't as though humans are exempt from the general mammalian ability to deliver live young without dying.

We've already got a sky-high miscarriage rate, a fun fact nobody likes to talk about in public. Something like 1/3rd of all pregnancies in the US result in miscarriages. Though I am aware of no science supporting this, I suspect it has to do with 2-3 generations full of people being born that otherwise were not healthy enough for one reason or another. Nature kinda takes care of this on its own.

I know it sounds cruel and insane, but part of me really thinks that we're fucking ourselves over long-term by providing such "excellent" health care. We're almost completely bypassing natural selection...

Re:I'm inclined to suspect... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450928)

A similar argument could be made for keeping people with genetically inherited weaknesses (disease,etc). We keep them alive, they breed, we get more genetically inherited weaknesses.

A similar argument could then be made for keeping people that are less-than-perfect.

Then you're in full blown "cleansing". Not cool.

Re:I'm inclined to suspect... (5, Informative)

moonbender (547943) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451078)

Bullshit. From fittingly/where-else Wikipedia:

Determining the prevalence of miscarriage is difficult. Many miscarriages happen very early in the pregnancy, before a woman may know she is pregnant. Treatment of women with miscarriage at home means medical statistics on miscarriage miss many cases.[28] Prospective studies using very sensitive early pregnancy tests have found that 25% of pregnancies are miscarried by the sixth week LMP (since the woman's Last Menstrual Period).[29][30] Clinical miscarriages (those occurring after the sixth week LMP) occur in 8% of pregnancies.[30]

The risk of miscarriage decreases sharply after the 10th week LMP, i.e. when the fetal stage begins.[31] The loss rate between 8.5 weeks LMP and birth is about two percent; loss is “virtually complete by the end of the embryonic period."[32]

Likelihood of miscarriage drastically increases with the mother's age; the average age of mothers at childbirth has steadily increased in the past decades, although I was very surprised to see it's still at 25 in the US. So it's got fuck all to do with "bypassing natural selection".

Re:I'm inclined to suspect... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30451192)

I know it sounds cruel and insane, but part of me really thinks that we're fucking ourselves over long-term by providing such "excellent" health care. We're almost completely bypassing natural selection...

Humans are the only animal species on earth that allows it's idiots to live a full and pain free life.

Re:I'm inclined to suspect... (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451356)

Yes, but isn't it cool that if you found yourself in a scenario where a woman is giving birth you could quickly find out what you should do?

Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450394)

there's an app for that...

The information revolution has begun. (5, Insightful)

Fished (574624) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450424)

For years I told people, "the information revolution has not yet begun." About six months ago, while eating breakfast at a little, podunk diner in a town of around 500 people, I got curious about what causes Tidal Locking. [wikipedia.org] So, without thinking about it, I whipped out my iPhone and looked it up using Wikipanion.

Then, I realized what I was doing. I, as someone who knows basically nothing about orbital mechanics, was sitting in a little diner on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere and had access to more information than I could possibly use on an obscure, orbital-mechanical phenomenon. All on a whim. That's when I decided that "the information revolution has begun." It's not well-begun, it's not finished, it's not even fully taken shape yet. But it's begun.

Ack (1)

Fished (574624) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450474)

That should be this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_locking [wikipedia.org] . That'll teach me to flap my gums without pressing preview.

Re:Ack (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450956)

That about sums it up.

Re:Ack (1)

moonbender (547943) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451132)

(GP forgot the /wiki/ between the hostname and the article title.) I was about to write about how dumb it is that they don't simply redirect into the "subfolder" because I'm sure this happens all the time. Then I noticed that they do redirect. So now I'm going to complain that they don't auto-redirect for a capitalisation error like Tidal Locking vs. Tidal locking. ;)

Re:The information revolution has begun. (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450954)

it's not finished

If the information revolution ever finishes, you won't read about it on the internet. ;)

FWIW, IMHO, the "information revolution" as you call it, has begun, has taken shape and is beyond the hype.
Sure it'll change in the future; information may become easier or quicker to access, information may get different qualitative properties, but right now any information can (atleast technically) be shared with anybody around the world.

Nobody would say the industrial revolution is "not well-begun, not finished and not even fully taken shape yet" just because we're still improving on it. It's fundamental concepts and ideas have become common and with that, it is no longer a revolution.

Re:The information revolution has begun. (1)

Johnny Mnemonic (176043) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450990)

No, you're not correct. Being able to look up useless information isn't helpful. That's mostly useless. You could very well have waited until you got access to a public library and had the same effect.

It's being able to have instant access to information that you can then use to further your goals that you will be empowered to affect change. And I think we've been there for a little while, eg stock research. It used to take subscribing to paper information, and the speed of your reactions were dictated by the medium of information. Now you can take advantage of new information instantly to profitable effect.

Re:The information revolution has begun. (1)

ivoras (455934) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451076)

There is another side of the story, though I'll agree it's effects may not be as important: in ages past, you, being Sir Isaac Newton or Albert Einstein, would be intrigued by that idea and would think about it, learn some math, tinker with it and eventually maybe produce something of monumental importance. I imagine someone like Einstein asking himself "what happens if you travel the speed of light?" then looks it up in Wikipedia and reads "Nothing much." then shrugs and continues with his merry life...

Though it doesn't have to end this way - he might say "Oh yeah? Says who?" and do the math anyway...

Re:The information revolution has begun. (1)

corbettw (214229) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451092)

And now I'm installing Wikipanion on my iPhone, continuing the revolution.

Seriously, thanks for mentioning this. I didn't know about this app but it's going to make wasting time on Wikipedia while on the can^Wtrain so much easier.

Should have got an iphone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450482)

It would have delivered the baby for him.

AMIRITE?

Cool (1)

iamacat (583406) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450488)

I just looked up the article. Not that I exactly plan on doing things this way, but in a pinch the information could prove useful in a couple of months.

Looks like an urban myth / tabloid madeup story. (2, Informative)

zombie_monkey (1036404) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450576)

This is form the British tabloid The Sun. I googled a few keywords and found no other mention of this except for a similar story in pravda.ru from 8th April this year, a Russian tabloid, with appropriately Russian names of the people involved and details.
http://english.pravda.ru/society/family/08-04-2009/107373-deliver_baby_mobile_phone-0

Re:Looks like an urban myth / tabloid madeup story (1)

zombie_monkey (1036404) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450700)

Never mind, I read the details in the Pravda.ru story, it's different. Still, it's The Sun so...

Re:Looks like an urban myth / tabloid madeup story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450970)

It's a believable enough story, but because it's in The Sun there's really not much reason to believe it happened.

Whats next, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450602)

Man concepts baby using wiki?

Study Up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30450632)

did he need Google for instructions during conception, too?

Irate Wife to Nerd Husband (1)

flahwho (1243110) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450668)

"you can't put that thing down for an hour can you? If you love that thing so much why don't you have a baby with it?"

If it's a boy I think they should name him Barry Black!

New Internet meme... (1)

iniquitous (122242) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450696)

You're Leroy Smith; you can do anything!

Re:New Internet meme... (1)

D Ninja (825055) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450778)

And before entering the dark, scary cave*, the father was heard yelling, "LEEEEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYY SSSSSMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITH!"

* Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.

Googled "How to deliver a baby"... (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30450792)

...what followed was the most perverted and erotic delivery ever outside of hentai.

Ah well, atleast ONE thing google helped bring into the world that is no longer in Beta.

Corporate policy violation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30451008)

I hope he doesn't get sacked for personal use of company equipment.

How stupid are we (1, Insightful)

scorp1us (235526) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451030)

That we have to google how to have a baby. Your deity must be proud! Or Darwin. Here I was thinking we're the smartest we've ever been... and we need instructions on how to reproduce. Never mind that 2000 years ago, even 200 years ago, most everyone was illiterate. And 20,000 years ago, they probably didn't even realize babies come from sex. (Actually many tribes consider the baby in proportion to the number of contributing men). What ever would we do?

Re:How stupid are we (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451304)

No, he was finding out what he needs to do to deliver a baby. It's not about her having a baby.

Add to that there are a myriad of things that can go wrong.

You might not how very few babies in industrialized nations die at birth.

It seems to me using science to get better survival rates is a good thing.

Idiot (1)

Sam36 (1065410) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451034)

What an idiot. He would have called 911 or something and go a REAL nurse online to walk him through. He should be arrested for child endangerment

He did what? (1)

0dugo0 (735093) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451064)

So, he has a phone and doesn't call the midwife for help? Ye g-ds, when I was born my parents didn't even have a landline and the midwife was only reachable by pager. Fortunately instincts do most of the work and except for having a foot long piece of umbilical cord attached to my belly I was fine.

Re:He did what? (1)

Destined Soul (1240672) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451390)

Or, if not the midwife, why not 911? That was the first thing that came to my mind once I read that it was on a friggin blackberry. I'm not sure which bothers me more: the fact that he didn't CALL a medical professional OR that he (and a lot of others here) seemingly think there is nothing wrong with googling for medical directions for something this critical? I can just see the next incident now: "oh, no, I fell into a ravine and broke both legs. Good thing I have my cell phone, I can google how to make up some splints to get out of here." Maybe then again there are websites that are fully sanctioned sites that give proper, legally approved medical advice (ie: the types that aren't likely to get sued into oblivion if something went wrong)? That or the blackberry has WiFi / data but no voice plan?

What a dork (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30451098)

The dad later admitted that the baby was conceived the same way.

Come on! (1)

lazycam (1007621) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451146)

I would be 100 times more impressed if the headline read, man disables bomb and saves a box full of kittens. On a serious note, if this guy had encountered any complications, it is good to know Google was at his fingertips. However, I have read stories about children assisting with the delivery of babies. No news here...

Good thing it wasn't a Blackberry Storm (2, Funny)

Peregr1n (904456) | more than 4 years ago | (#30451210)

It's a good thing he didn't have a Blackberry Storm to mash his query out on, or he would have been confused by the instructions on "how to slither a navy"

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