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Firefox 3.5 Now the Most Popular Browser Worldwide

kdawson posted more than 4 years ago | from the press-the-advantage dept.

Firefox 422

gQuigs notes a graph up at StatCounter Global Statistics, which shows that in the last few days Firefox 3.5 became the most used browser version worldwide, edging ahead of IE7. IE8 is rising fast (along with Windows 7), but over the last few months the slope of Firefox's worldwide curve has been steeper. (In the US, IE8 has always been ahead of Firefox 3.5; in Europe Firefox has led since late summer.) The submitter suggests using the time when Firefox rules the roost, globally speaking, to put the final nail in the coffin of IE6, which still has a 14% global share (5%-7% in the US and EU; China and Korea are holding up IE6's numbers).

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422 comments

first (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508136)

n/t

Browser down. (5, Funny)

binarylarry (1338699) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508148)

OS next.

Re:Browser down. (5, Funny)

TheSunborn (68004) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508160)

People already complain that firefox is to bloatet. Adding an os might really cause people to complain, but they can always do it as a plugin

Re:Browser down. (-1, Redundant)

skine (1524819) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508178)

Psst!

I think GP was referring to Linux.

Re:Browser down. (2, Funny)

Neil Hodges (960909) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508250)

Why would you want to create a Linux plugin for Firefox when you can run Firefox on Linux instead?

Re:Browser down. (4, Funny)

binarylarry (1338699) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508326)

You know.

Yo dawg, we heard yall use Linux....

Re:Browser down. (1)

Atzanteol (99067) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508432)

Holy shit really!?!?!?!

Re:Browser down. (3, Funny)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508246)

only if I could get Emacs as a Firefox plugin...

Re:Browser down. (2, Funny)

rrohbeck (944847) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508278)

There's an x86 emulator in Java. Maybe it'll boot Linux.
Then you could even run vim :P

Re:Browser down. (1)

gzipped_tar (1151931) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508288)

There's Firemacs, but that's just a key combo addon, not a fully functional EMACS implementation.

Re:Browser down. (2, Informative)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508502)

There's Firemacs, but that's just a key combo addon, not a fully functional EMACS implementation.

I can confirm. It will not wash your dishes, vacuum your rug or become your Evil EMACS Robotic Overlord.

Re:Browser down. (5, Funny)

ihuntrocks (870257) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508300)

Given how bloated Emacs is, you're more likely to be able to get Firefox for Emacs.

Emacs is a wonderful operating system. All it lacks is a decent text editor.

Re:Browser down. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508318)

Emacs is a wonderful operating system. All it lacks is a decent text editor.

What do you mean by that? You can run Vi in Emacs.

Re:Browser down. (5, Funny)

ihuntrocks (870257) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508336)

I concede defeat to you, sir. Well, played. Well played indeed.

Re:Browser down. (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508514)

But can you run Pico in it?

Re:Browser down. (3, Funny)

slashchuck (617840) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508408)

You young whippersnappers and your emacs or vim. In my day it was edlin or nothing.

Re:Browser down. (5, Funny)

Idiomatick (976696) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508458)

I had punch cards... and we hadn't invented the hole punch yet so we had to do it with our fingers. You people worry about carpel tunnel from typing... try ramming your pinky through a sheet of card several hundred thousand times a night. Back then, code monkeys were actual monkeys we trained to poke holes for us to spare our own fingers.

Re:Browser down. (4, Funny)

RazzleDazzle (442937) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508486)

You and your advanced "hole punching technology" have no idea what I go thru [krytosvirus.com]

Re:Browser down. (2, Interesting)

calidoscope (312571) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508532)

Hole punching??? How about flipping the front panel switches! OTOH, the old plugboards were even more archaic.

Re:Browser down. (2, Funny)

DarkAxi0m (928088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508492)

monkeys? luxury!

we had to make our holes with damp twine,
and on top of that, we had to reuse the old cards by filling in the holes with skin from our blisters.

Re:Browser down. (5, Funny)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508520)

You had it EASY! We had to punch the holes in ourselves using jagged pieces of rock 25 hours a day, until the IT Manager came along, cut us all to ribbons, ingested us in a carnivorous cannibalistic rage, only have to start again, this time in EBDIC!

Given the instant speed difference alone (2)

FunkyRider (1128099) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508154)

This is bond to happen. Even our manager can manage to feel the speed difference between IE7 and FF3, let alone FF3.5's tracemonkey and stuff. Even if people are not interested in Open Standard, vast amount of plug-ins and things, this alone would make people switch.

Re:Given the instant speed difference alone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508196)

Bond to happen?

007: Fire in the Foxy

From The Book of Mozilla, 11:9 (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508158)

Mammon slept. And the beast reborn spread over the earth and its numbers grew legion. And they proclaimed the times and sacrificed crops unto the fire, with the cunning of foxes. And they built a new world in their own image as promised by the sacred words, and spoke of the beast with their children. Mammon awoke, and lo! it was naught but a follower.

Re:From The Book of Mozilla, 11:9 (4, Insightful)

flydpnkrtn (114575) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508182)

Mammon slept. And the beast reborn spread over the earth and its numbers grew legion. And they proclaimed the times and sacrificed crops unto the fire, with the cunning of foxes. And they built a new world in their own image as promised by the sacred words [mozilla.org] , and spoke [mozilla.org] of the beast with their children. Mammon awoke, and lo! it was naught but a follower.

from The Book of Mozilla, 11:9
(10th Edition)

Re:From The Book of Mozilla, 11:9 (2, Insightful)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508398)

What’s omitted is what happens next.

If Mammon awakes, it (MS) will try to catch up, if it means anything to it.
And this will be the actual ugly fight, where one of them never comes out again.

Why MS failed. (5, Insightful)

w0mprat (1317953) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508164)

IE has been diluted by three different versions. IE6 is only really held on to by organisations that developed everything for IE6, and subsequently had everything break when testing IE7. This despite IE6 barely working on half the internet now. Ironically Mircosoft's attempt at lock-in in the past has backfired, few outfits have updated to IE7, less to IE8.

Re:Why MS failed. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508524)

The other source of IE6 is non tech-saavy people still using it on their Windows XP PCs that have never considered or don't know how to upgrade. Working for an ISP helpdesk, I can say this is a common scenario.

Re:Why MS failed. (1)

pipatron (966506) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508576)

I think this is a little bit odd. I've had to work hard not to install a newer version of IE in my windows machine (yes, I like to play GTA occasionally, no, it doesn't work in wine with my ATI card). You have to explicitly show the custom upgrade options and disable it there, IIRC.

IE6? Really? (1)

bguiz (1627491) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508170)

I'm finding it hard to believe that IE6 is stilling around at all... The only situation where I would use that junk is if I had a software lock-down at work....

and even then I'd re-consider working there for being too archaic.

Congratulations Firefox: It was just a matter of time before quality gets reflected in market shares!

Re:IE6? Really? (4, Informative)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508194)

Its not really that surprising. You have some users who saw what "upgrading" to Vista did to XP, and won't upgrade any software, especially if it switches to a totally different look. You have lots of corporate users, you also have people on pre-XP systems which IE 6 is the latest version of IE for them. Even Windows 2000 only has IE 6 as the most recent version of IE.

And while IE 6 may be archaic, if you have an intranet based on people using IE 6 that IE 7+, Firefox or another browser breaks, you either have to upgrade the entire intranet or keep IE 6 around.

Re:IE6? Really? (3, Informative)

Firehed (942385) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508544)

Except that IE8 is perfectly capable of emulating both IE6's and IE7's standards-noncompliance modes, in addition to rendering in a proper (albeit lacking some newer features) standards-compliant mode.

There's no excuse. There's less than 250 hours left in this DECADE, so Win2k isn't a valid argument in my books.

Re:IE6? Really? (3, Insightful)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508208)

Well, checking Google Analytics for one of our websites at work has consistently shown IE6 at "just cranks and a handful of corporate users" levels for a long time now (less than 10%, down to about 5% last month or so). You'll never get rid of it completely, there are still a few nutjobs running Mac OS 9 + IE5 out there, unfortunately a lot of these people will complain loudly when things don't work for them (even though there is no chance whatsoever of most websites supporting their ancient setup).

/Mikael

Re:IE6? Really? (1)

idiot900 (166952) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508350)

With any luck major websites will simply stop supporting IE6, no matter how loudly its users complain. Especially when the site does not derive revenue directly from its visitors, why cater to a few who are ruining the experience for the vast majority?

Re:IE6? Really? (3, Insightful)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508394)

Or you could use 'technology' to serve different browsers different versions of the site.

Re:IE6? Really? (5, Interesting)

rrohbeck (944847) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508308)

I see "This site requires Internet Explorer 6" on our Intranet all the time. Peoplesoft for example, urgh.
Of course, the site will run perfectly with Firefox if I change the user agent string.

Corporate Intranets with lazy admins or dumb policies are what keeps IE6 alive.

Re:IE6? Really? (1)

BZ (40346) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508334)

> The only situation where I would use that junk is if I had a software lock-down at work

That's a nontrivial part of IE6 usage, yes. An interesting plot of IE usage vs time from June 2008 to June 2009, with both moving averages and day-by-day numbers plotted shows that a third of IE6 usage is precisely work-day usage: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/06/one_year_of_int.html [mozillazine.org]

Only reason for any IE6 market share (3, Insightful)

Old Flatulent 1 (1692076) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508184)

Seems to me IE6 having any market share at all is because of the huge number of XP non registered copies floating around in places like China and even the US. Besides how would bot nets survive without Windows warez! Hopefully as HTML5 becomes more developed it will kill it once and for all.

StatCounter? (4, Interesting)

gzipped_tar (1151931) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508190)

Considering most Firefox users are more tech savvy than average and many of them are likely to have already blocked StatCounter altogether, this is impressive.

Re:StatCounter? (3, Insightful)

Trepidity (597) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508266)

I'm not sure "many" of them are. It's hard to estimate, but most estimates for the proportion of users using some form of ad-blocking software are only in the 3-5% range. Even if every one of those is a Firefox 3.5 user, that would only nudge up the 21% market share to the mid-20%s, not totally rearrange the curve or anything.

Re:StatCounter? (1)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508364)

Are you saying that over half of the web browser users are more tech savvy than average? You might want to rethink that statement in the future.

Re:StatCounter? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508396)

As opposed to him rethinking the statement in the past?

Re:StatCounter? (5, Insightful)

Machtyn (759119) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508542)

I wouldn't say most FF users are more tech savvy. I would say that most FF users know at least one tech savvy person. Also, I don't think I've blocked StatCounter. I don't know why I should.

An interesting way to summarize the data ... (5, Insightful)

Wrath0fb0b (302444) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508214)

I have another way -- Firefox (all versions) at 32%, Internet Explorer (all versions) at 55%. The fact that the IE market is split between 6.X, 7.X and 8.X doesn't not detract from the (regrettable) fact that Internet Explorer is the most popular browser, worldwide. Different versions do not a different browser make.

In hindsight, this distribution is rather predictable -- FF nags you to update (rightly so) whereas IE can't even update itself, let along notify you about it.

Here's a plot (thankfully, they give out the raw CSV data) with the "all versions" included. Firefox has a ways to go. http://yfrog.com/j5temptlp [yfrog.com]

Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508244)

Different versions do not a different browser make.

Clearly you have never been involved with web development. "aieee" has wildly different bugs and proprietary features between major versions.

Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508280)

Lalalalala, I can't here you. Firefox has taken major marketshare. Lalalalala

Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... (4, Informative)

Trepidity (597) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508292)

Here's a plot (thankfully, they give out the raw CSV data) with the "all versions" included. Firefox has a ways to go. http://yfrog.com/j5temptlp [yfrog.com]

Statcounter also plots that [statcounter.com] , fwiw. (Click on the dropdown box after "Statistic:" at the bottom-left of the graph to get other views and data sets as well.)

Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... (2, Funny)

welcher (850511) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508306)

that is the ugliest plot i have seen in a long, long time.

Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... (5, Insightful)

dido (9125) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508310)

The real story here is in the trends of each version. IE7 and IE6 are in decline. For Internet Explorer, only IE8 is still growing, but its rate of growth is significantly slower than Firefox's. The headline may be misleading, but the the summary is right on the money. If these trends keep up, the headline may well become true a lot sooner than you seem to think.

Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... (4, Interesting)

Zerth (26112) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508434)

Not to mention that IE8's growth seems to be exclusively at the expense of 6/7 so IE as a whole has declined greatly, or the market has grown while IE use has remained constant.

Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... (1)

shird (566377) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508338)

And once Firefox 3.6 is out, that line for Firefox 3.5 will drop by half and IE 7 will become more popular than Firefox 3.5 overnight (according to the submitter's logic).

Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508378)

If you believe that IE6, IE7 and IE8 are somehow the same browser then you should immediately start learning how to use a computer. You are talking about the brand, not the software. And obviously the brand doesn't mean jack shit if your branded browser can't open regular web pages without artifacts.

Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... (3, Interesting)

quickOnTheUptake (1450889) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508428)

Total marketshare isn't the most interesting metric, the rate of change is. Right now FF 3.5 is gaining users faster than IE8. The question (which the graph doesn't readily answer) is whether the net FF adoption rate is faster than the net IE adoption rate. I.e, is the total number of FF users going up faster than the total number of IE users? Is FF3.5 going up fast just because FF3 users are upgrading more quickly than IE7 users?

Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... (2, Informative)

quickOnTheUptake (1450889) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508472)

The question (which the graph doesn't readily answer) is whether the net FF adoption rate is faster than the net IE adoption rate.

Well, that chart didn't but this one [statcounter.com] does.
And yes, IE (all versions) is in a rapid decline, while FF is slowly climbing.

Re:An interesting way to summarize the data ... (1)

realityimpaired (1668397) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508536)

if you look at the graph, you can answer that question quite easily...

Both IE6 and IE7 are in decline. While there's still nutters using IE5 and earlier, those browsers are all listed under "other" which is also in decline. IE8 is the only IE browser with an increasing market share at this time. And judging from the slopes, most of the new IE8 users are old IE6 and IE7 users... IE7's decline has been very sharp, easily the same slope as IE8's rise.

So yes, FF3.5 is gaining users and FF's proportional market share is increasing while IE's is decreasing.

Ah, I.E. single handedly holding back the web (1)

Mr Thinly Sliced (73041) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508216)

Thanks Microsoft, and some congratulations should also go to America for supporting them!

(Look at the browser share stats for example).

Personally, I blame it all on the Marketing people.

Ah, say the marketing people, he's going for that "anti-microsoft" dollar. Big dollar, big market, very smart of him to go for that.

(Props to Bill Hicks. How we miss thee, Bill)

IE6 comes with XP, IE8 with Win7 (3, Interesting)

AbRASiON (589899) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508220)

You're going to see IE8 be absolutely huge over the next 5 years - even if firefox is preferred by geeks and the somewhat tech savvy.
As the huge 32/64bit transition begins (next 12 to 36 months my guess) business's finally can roll out 64bit Windows 7, avoiding Vista entirely and finally retiring Windows XP.
This is going to continue to increase IE8 marketshare much like IE6's was boosted from XP, so what we can only hope is that IE8 isn't garbage (me, I don't know? I use Firefox also)

For what it's worth, I work for one of the state govt's of Australia and one of our departments has just switched from Win2k to XP :/ so I'm guessing we won't be moving to Windows 7 for at least 2 years.

Re:IE6 comes with XP, IE8 with Win7 (1)

dazlari (711032) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508262)

Now now, don't go skipping generations!! As a State Govt, you must endure the throes of Vista also. Only then can proper anti-MS policy bias be formed. You should make that 4 years.

Re:IE6 comes with XP, IE8 with Win7 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508324)

Ugh this is so true. Thank god for my recent resignation letter.

Re:IE6 comes with XP, IE8 with Win7 (1)

tsalmark (1265778) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508356)

+1 Evil for you.

Re:IE6 comes with XP, IE8 with Win7 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508358)

IE8 [comes] with Win7 ... You're going to see IE8 be absolutely huge over the next 5 years

Hopefully not in Europe [slashdot.org]

Re:IE6 comes with XP, IE8 with Win7 (1)

AbRASiON (589899) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508550)

Oh yeah, I forgot about that complete, idiot ruling.
Not often I side with Microsoft - I do on this one- silly.

Re:IE6 comes with XP, IE8 with Win7 (1)

jonwil (467024) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508480)

IE8 is much better than IE6 and the sooner we can kill off IE6 in favor of IE7 and IE8, the better.
Now, I am not saying that IE8 is better than alternatives like Firefox (I use SeaMonkey myself) but its better than IE6 (in fact, the only browsers I know of that were worse than IE6 were IE5.x and Netscape 4.x)

This is silly... (2, Insightful)

SwashbucklingCowboy (727629) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508224)

Separating out versions of different browsers is just plain silly.

Re:This is silly... (2, Interesting)

gzipped_tar (1151931) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508242)

You know it's not once you've tried to write (and maintain!) different CSS fuckups for different IE versions.

Re:This is silly... (1)

blai (1380673) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508340)

hmm? no matter the percentage, it's still your job to maintain IE versions.

You can think ideally all you want about dropping support until you sense your boss' heavy breathing behind you.

Re:This is silly... (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508282)

Not entirely, there is something interesting about the much faster adoption of new versions of Firefox (well, the apparent adoption of newer versions among users of older versions...).

Wrote this using FF (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508230)

55% to 22% but gaining a little is the real story. When you mark me as troll be sure to note I wrote this on FF. Actually I use nothing but FF and encourage my users to do the same. Nevertheless this story is a little misleading in suggesting that FF is winning against IE.

so....? (2, Informative)

twotailakitsune (1229480) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508238)

If you put all the firefox's (1-3.5) vs. the IE's (5-8) what do you get? The winner for now is still IE. Now, Firefox is getting more blot, and IE getting better. What will Firefox do to fight back? Add even more blot? I have moved to using IE, Firefox, and chrome for now. If firefox keeps down this path, I will stop using it.

Re:so....? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508482)

Firefox is still the fastest rising browser whereas IE is in constant decline, IE8 is better but a shit in a bag is still a shit in a bag.
a the current rate firefox will take over worldwide in November 2011 (assuming linear which i doubt is true, it's more likely to take less time) and in europe it will take over in march.

Re:so....? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508490)

If by "winner" you mean "has largest % of users", then no, according to the first link Firefox 3.5 has the largest % of users. They do break each version out of each product (IE 6, 7, 8 and FF 2, 3, and 3.5) so it is an apples to apples comparison (none of this "all FF" vs. a version of IE).

Of course where they're getting these numbers from will make a huge difference. There are lies, damn lies, and web statistics.

Re:so....? (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508554)

Is it possible that WGA is finally and well and truly fucking Microsoft over? I wonder what percentage of all those FireFox installs are on pirated copies of XP, and the only way to get a decent browser is to download FF.

Pretty deceiving (1)

idontusenumbers (1367883) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508252)

If any of the IE versions had automatic updating to the latest version like Firefox has, IE would easily win.

Re:Pretty deceiving (1)

TimSSG (1068536) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508314)

So you saying if IE was better it would win. Tim S.

Re:Pretty deceiving (1)

idontusenumbers (1367883) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508374)

Just stating a fact. If IE6 auto installed or made it super easy to install IE7, or IE7 to IE8, no single version of Firefox would be at the top. If you count the last two version of either, or all versions of either, IE would be at the top hands down. I think auto updating is nice, but some people wouldn't like it. If IE had it, IE7 would be at the top. It still wouldn't be a better browser. IE sucks =/

Re:Pretty deceiving (1)

grolschie (610666) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508384)

Windows already has "Automatic Updates". The latest version of IE is offered. You don't even need to use the browser to check for updates.

Re:Pretty deceiving (1)

idontusenumbers (1367883) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508442)

They aren't as easy or as quick as FireFox.

One word: adblock (3, Insightful)

seifried (12921) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508254)

Everyone I know whom I have shown Firefox with Adblock Plus switches and stays with it. The Internet with ads is just horrid (sorry Slashdot!).

Re:One word: adblock (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508290)

How's that different from IE7/8 with IE7Pro? It also blocks ads, I have found no difference between adblock plus and ie7pro in terms of functionality.

Re:One word: adblock (4, Informative)

techno-vampire (666512) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508332)

(sorry Slashdot!)

When I first saw the option on Slashdot's main page to turn off ads I was a tad croggled. I'd been using Firefox with AdBlock + for so long I'd forgotten that there were ads on Slashdot.

A new topic logo, perhaps? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508274)

Now that Firefox is the dominant browser, perhaps the topic graphic should default to Firefox instead of IE? It is more recognizable.

My plan worked (5, Funny)

palmerj3 (900866) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508276)

Reenactment - relative has problem with computer

1. Remove shortcuts to Internet Explorer
2. Rename Firefox shortcuts to "Internet"

Firefox 3.5 - My Idea

Re:My plan worked (1)

SoonerSkeene (1257702) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508418)

You'd be surprised how often those 2 steps comprise my final housecall to any of my technology-challenged friends and family. Problem solved every time.

Re:My plan worked (3, Informative)

bertoelcon (1557907) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508436)

If you can change the icons and the theme they will really never know the difference.

Re:My plan worked (1)

russlar (1122455) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508504)

Hey! He stole my idea!

Misleading Title. (1)

bjorniac (836863) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508294)

A more accurate graph for the "Most Popular Browser Worldwide" would be given by:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-weekly-200827-200951 [statcounter.com]
Here you see a more representative picture - IE's decline and Firefox's rise, but still IE's total share is 55% to Firefox's 32%

Just because we're in the midst of an IE upgrade from 7-8 doesn't make Firefox now the most popular browser. Sure, this version is currently a little ahead of each of IE7 and IE8, but to me what this really indicates is that Firefox users upgrade faster.

Re:Misleading Title. (1, Troll)

MtViewGuy (197597) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508386)

However, with the success of Windows 7, expect a major spike in IE usage, especially with IE 8.0 being part of Windows 7 itself in most versions.

I myself would like to go to Chrome 4.0 full-time, since Chrome does a masterful job of handling tabs and Chromes uses the ultra-fast WebKit page layout engine.

Re:Misleading Title. (1, Insightful)

quickOnTheUptake (1450889) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508518)

I'm not sure whether this is blatant astorturfing, parody astoturfing, fanboyism, or something else.
Please MtViewGuy, gimme a hint.

A shame, 3.6 is very quick (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508312)

Firefox 3.5 is a very slow piece of shit, reminds me of old Internet Explorer versions. I am using Firefox 3.6 Beta6 and it is so much faster! I hope most of these Firefox 3.5 people upgrade to 3.6 ASAP when it is released.

I added another FF user today (3, Informative)

WebmasterNeal (1163683) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508320)

I helped a family friend setup their new computer (which had Windows 7 on it) and the first thing I did was download Firefox 3.5, installed the IE Aero theme and removed any references to IE I could find. The nice thing with this theme is very few non-technical users notice a difference other than their browser seems to load pages faster.

Re:I added another FF user today (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508578)

That is so much bullshit passed along by the typical FF fanboy! In side by side tests of IE with FF, from desktop click to full page showing, FF takes about 35% longer.

Obligatory xkcd post (5, Funny)

zill (1690130) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508410)

http://xkcd.com/198/ [xkcd.com]

Unless you're a web browser developer, keeping track of global browser market-shares is just plain nerdy. But then again, this is /..

IE6 isn't being held up by choice (1)

SoonerSkeene (1257702) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508414)

I don't know a single home user on any OS that is using IE6. My incredibly behind-the-times relatives on Windows 2000 are using Firefox, and any of my XP or newer friends and colleagues are using Firefox or a newer flavor of IE (or even Chrome). No, the thing holding up IE6 is corporate America. My company has 70 large locations in America, and probably twice that around the glob, together running about 60,000 computers. Only one (very tiny) division of our company is allowed to run anything other than IE6, and that's because they are a Windows Vista technical support group. The rest of us are forced to use IE6 because most of our applications have been replaced by browser-based 'solutions' like Siebel CRM and the like, using ActiveX and most of which aren't officially supported on newer browsers. It's painful.

Re:IE6 isn't being held up by choice (1)

d4nowar (941785) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508574)

My father uses it still, and I believe he's part of a populous subset of people that think "It's different. It's broken!"

Whenever windows update comes up he thinks it's spam. Whenever a security warning comes up he thinks he has a virus. Whenever any update window comes up he thinks it's spam.

His work machine was running XP service pack 1 until yesterday.

Train those people and you'll get rid of IE6.

Statcounter is bullshit! (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508424)

They are blocked in all ad blockers and some firewall software (those with built-in malware filters).
This is because of their web beacons that they integrate into sites, and that invade your privacy by tracking you across sites.

I had to turn off my ad blocker, to be able to open their site.

So you can guess in what direction the statistics are biased.

Ding! Dong! The Witch is Dead! (1)

yuda (704374) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508446)

Just had a look at the stats for New Zealand (where I come from) IE 6 accounts for now only around 9% of the browser market. Now if I could get a certain clients head around that fact and that he should upgrade his browser to something that isn't quite so shit, then maybe both of us could get some sleep

No it isn't (according to that site)! (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508464)

If you look at the browsers, independent of the version:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-weekly-200827-200951 [statcounter.com]
you see that IE is clearly far on top.

BUT, as I previously said, Statcounter does not count anyone with an ad blocker, in browser, in the firewall, etc.
Because they are blocked for tracking users across sites with their web beacon.

So not only are the numbers strongly biased in one direction. No TFS biases them back in the other direction.

That is, all in all, a truly epic fail. And I’m not even a statistics guy. I bet those would first die from the horrors, and then spin in their graves fast enough to power a small city. ;)

What happened to Netcraft confirming it? (1)

indigoid (3724) | more than 4 years ago | (#30508516)

:-(

Dammit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508546)

Now I have to find a new browser. I can't use popular software or else my nerd cred goes down!

because of 'delete recent history' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30508548)

I bet it is because it has 'delete recent history' for certain periods of time, so it makes it easier to look at pr0n.

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