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Jobs Finally "Happy" With Unannounced Apple Tablet

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 4 years ago | from the price-point-will-be-everything dept.

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All the whispers of an Apple tablet PC seem to be culminating in a flurry of rumors suggesting we may see one as soon as next month. Sources inside Apple are saying that Jobs is finally "happy" with the device after being involved in every detail of bringing it into the light of day. As a side result of these rumors, it seems that Apple stockholders are also getting a bit of Christmas cheer with a significant bump in stock price.

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And the price... (1, Funny)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551126)

... will be only $1999!

One Apple employee who recently left the company also told the Times that the interface won't be anything expected. "You will be very surprised how you interact with the new tablet," the former employee said.

Sounds interesting tho and if they combine that with multi touch, it could be a perfect device to use while laying on sofa.

Re:And the price... (1)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551144)

Walmart will sell it for $1999.98, thus Walmarting all others.

Re:And the price... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551424)

Walmart will sell it for $1999.98, thus Walmarting all others.

And Walmart has layaway so niggers can buy one too.

Puh-lease (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551600)

They are called domesticated negro wildlife. Bark O'Bama took care of this. Personally. [youtube.com]

MOD PARENT UP!! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551652)

Make one of my christmas wishes come true

Re:And the price... (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551172)

Sounds interesting tho and if they combine that with multi touch, it could be a perfect device to use while laying on sofa.

How are you going to hang it up in front of your face? :S

I can only imagine laying on my sofa and using my laptop, if the keyboard would be the display.

Ugh.

Re:And the price... (2, Insightful)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551278)

I take it you've never used a notebook or a sketchbook then (you know, the kinds that are made of paper)? Or, god forbid, a Wacom Cintiq (Here's a hint, most cintiq users don't mount it flat on a table or standing up at a right angle to the floor).

/Mikael

Re:And the price... (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551526)

So how is it better to interact with the device from an angle?

Re:And the price... (1)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551562)

You're not trying very hard, are you?

Grab a sketchbook, lean back in the nearest couch and try drawing something, are you using the sketchbook at an angle or do you simply position it so that it is facing you?

/Mikael

Re:And the price... (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551660)

Yes, I can do that, but my point is that you have to position yourself in a certain way to use it properly.

Oh well, I'm just finding a laptop more flexible as I can point the screen as I wish.
I can have my kneels up like with a sketchbook, but just because I shift position doesn't make it harder to use.

Re:And the price... (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551732)

I can picture myself placing the tablet against my knees as I lie down, yes, but my point is that I don't find it as flexible. What if I want to lie down with it next to me, for example? Since this isn't a small pocket PC, but a larger (supposedly, given the competition) tablet-sized device, that sounds much less flexible to me at least. I'm not sure how this device would offer similar flexibility in terms of actually working with it. Actually, I hardly get them at all, since a laptop with a folded screen isn't even larger than a tablet PC, and I've never worked in an environment where having it unfolded is an issue. Especially these days with netbooks. It's like sacrficing a keyboard for the value of, yeah, what.

And yes, I have worked with mobile devices before; I've developed software for Pocket PC's. Not that they can be directly compared to tablets due to their much smaller size.

Re:And the price... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551686)

I can only imagine laying on my sofa

FFS, it's lying.

I am lying on the sofa; I lie on the sofa.

I lay the book on the table.

I went to the couch and lay down.

I went to the couch and laid the book down.

Well (-1, Flamebait)

zoomshorts (137587) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551488)

No one really cares, this is just an Applefanboy thing versus ALL the others thing.
Who cares? YOU apparently - FAIL. Apple is NOT the end-all or Be-all of tech. Get a grip.
Linux anyone? I thought so ...

Re:Well (0, Troll)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551512)

Yeah, after all, who cared about the iPod? And who cared about the iPhone? No one cared. Poor old Apple hardly sold any at all.

Hey, wait a minute...

Re:And the price... (-1, Flamebait)

Ash-Fox (726320) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551620)

Sounds interesting tho and if they combine that with multi touch, it could be a perfect device to use while laying on sofa.

That's very predictable, thus not a surprise. Probably you control it via a anal probe device, that's an example of 'surprise' method of interacting with the device.

With a 2 year data plan 5gb and then $5 /mb (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551726)

With a 2 year data plan 5gb and then $5 /mb

New interface (3, Funny)

hwyhobo (1420503) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551146)

"You will be very surprised how you interact with the new tablet"

DOS prompt?

Re:New interface (1)

A12m0v (1315511) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551168)

I'd rather Csh myself. If this iTablet runs Vim, count me in.

Re:New interface (3, Funny)

jo42 (227475) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551178)

Rectal probe. You use your sphincter muscles to move the cursor around the screen and click. A few months later a bluetooth version of aforementioned probe will be announced and shipped. All hipsters with white wires sticking out of their backsides will rejoice.

Re:New interface (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551242)

Apple's version of the entity [southparkstudios.com] ?

Re:New interface (1)

ickleberry (864871) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551366)

It won't actually have a touch screen, control will be via buttons and a trackball. So unlike Apple, hence the surprise

Re:New interface (1)

Rockoon (1252108) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551604)

I've got the scoop on what the new interface will be based on:

Apple Tablet [blogcdn.com]

Intel gave him a kick back to use there shit gma v (0, Flamebait)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551154)

Intel gave him a kick back to use there shit gma video in this and to tie the new next mini and all laptops under $2000 with there carp on board in the i3 cpu.

Re:Intel gave him a kick back to use there shit gm (1)

daveb1 (1678608) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551176)

and a table pc needs awesome graphics because a) i want to play doom! b) i want to play doom!! c) duke nukem forever! Ok i admit it, if i could touch to shoot i wouldn't mind this :P

Re:Intel gave him a kick back to use there shit gm (1)

bertoelcon (1557907) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551720)

Intel gave him a kick back to use there shit gma video in this and to tie the new next mini and all laptops under $2000 with there carp on board in the i3 cpu.

and a table pc needs awesome graphics because a) i want to play doom! b) i want to play doom!! c) duke nukem forever! Ok i admit it, if i could touch to shoot i wouldn't mind this :P

There is so much grammar nazi bait in this thread. I would go for it but I don't have all day.

Re:Intel gave him a kick back to use there shit gm (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551314)

Wow, Joe, that post was more unintelligible than normal. Did they mess up your meds again?

Re:Intel gave him a kick back to use there shit gm (1)

Yosho (135835) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551386)

Intel gave him a kick back to use there shit gma video in this and to tie the new next mini and all laptops under $2000 with there carp on board in the i3 cpu.

That sucks, carp are so boney. :-/

Rather respectless to post Apple-related... (0, Troll)

carlhaagen (1021273) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551160)

...news here on SlashLinux.

It doesn't work that way. (2, Funny)

denzacar (181829) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551360)

Apple beats Linux, Linux beats Google, "M$ i5 3v111111|_!!!11eleven" stories beat all.

Or, in the order of preference:

1 - "M$ i5 3v111111|_!!!11eleven"
2 - "Apple news and rumors including daily Steve-tracker"
3 - "Linux and why we love it"
4 - "Google - not really evil. Honest."
5 - "Other tech news"

Re:It doesn't work that way. (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551528)

Swsp 2 and 3. Didn't ya catch the 'Does Santa hate Linux' story?

Re:Rather respectless to post Apple-related... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551594)

Interesting that people have modded this post as "troll", considering just how well the "fanboys" and "whoopdedoo" tags of the entry speak for the posters cause. I suppose it was the taggers themselves that modded the post. Pityful lamers.

Senior Apple Executive to announce resignation? (2, Funny)

Suki I (1546431) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551200)

Will the executive anonymously quoted in the article be leaving soon or have things changed there?

Re:Senior Apple Executive to announce resignation? (4, Funny)

gyrogeerloose (849181) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551344)

Will the executive anonymously quoted in the article be leaving soon [...]?

Let's just say he's singing soprano now.

Steve J.

Re:Senior Apple Executive to announce resignation? (1)

rvw (755107) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551564)

Will the executive anonymously quoted in the article be leaving soon [...]?

Let's just say he's singing soprano now.

Steve J.

His balls are served on a tablet to Sir Steve as his X-Mas appetizer.

Let the H8 begin! (3, Insightful)

MCSEBear (907831) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551204)

We will see if Apple's habit of actually rethinking their user interface and user interaction methods can bring some life to the tablet market. I think expecting users to use a stylus with the traditional tiny user interface elements in Windows was a problem holding back the form factor.

However, I have faith that people will come up with plenty of reasons to hate the new hardware when it appears.

Jobs is happy with it? (5, Insightful)

mattcsn (1592281) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551222)

It came out last summer that Jobs was intimately involved with every detail of bringing the tablet to market. It seems that the device has finally gotten Jobs's seal of approval: when asked if the tablet rumors were true, a senior Apple executive gave The New York Times a rather coy reply. "I can't really say anything," he said, "but, let's just say Steve is extremely happy with the new tablet."

Translation: the only button is a power button, it has a battery-sucking colour screen as opposed to an e-ink display, it requires itunes on a mac or PC to use, the only Apple-approved way to run programs is via an app store, it has a non-user-replaceable battery, and it will cost upwards of $1000.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (1)

TamCaP (900777) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551258)

I am pretty confident that as soon as they announce it, we will be able to find your summary surprisingly accurate.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (4, Funny)

Shikaku (1129753) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551400)

You hear that sound? It's the sound of a million Apple fanboys orgasming and suddenly being silent.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551476)

Wow, you're so fucking funny I just shit my pants laughing

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (1)

Shikaku (1129753) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551714)

I don't know about your shitty pants, but I do know you should see your doctor if your elation lasts more than 4 hours.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (1)

furball (2853) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551504)

I didn't just orgasm. I lost consciousness.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551260)

Translation: the only button is a power button, it has a battery-sucking colour screen as opposed to an e-ink display, it requires itunes on a mac or PC to use, the only Apple-approved way to run programs is via an app store, it has a non-user-replaceable battery, and it will cost upwards of $1000.

Shiney! What's not to like?

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (3, Insightful)

cheros (223479) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551266)

..and it already has legions of people already exclaiming that this is the best device yet, despite the fact that nobody has seen as much as a drawing yet.

Then again, how did Windows Vista get all those rave reviews?

Exactly :-)

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (4, Insightful)

je ne sais quoi (987177) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551322)

..and it already has legions of people already exclaiming that this is the best device yet, despite the fact that nobody has seen as much as a drawing yet.

Actually, I haven't read anyone who actually liked apple products say anything of the sort. All I've read in this thread so far are people who are complaining about imagined features they have pulled out of their asses, as you've pointed out, nobody has seen anything yet.

If Apple's past design decisions are any guide, the only thing I feel confident saying is that Apple has likely spent a tremendous amount of time and money designing the interface and it will likely be fairly intuitive and easy to use, but it's far from certain. It could just be an ipod touch, but bigger. This will certainly have some interesting applications, especially if they use a display that can be read in direct sunlight. I believe it likely that for applications they will follow their (mind-blowingly) successful app store but who knows. This is Apple we're talking about, they aren't the leader in innovation in the PC market for nothing and it's hard to imagine Jobs getting excited over an overblown ipod touch, but he has tried to sell us polished turds before so who knows.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (-1, Flamebait)

RoFLKOPTr (1294290) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551464)

they aren't the leader in innovation in the PC market

You're right, they aren't. Apple tends to take other peoples' ideas and make them look nice. That, in conjunction with the best marketing department on the planet, allows them to overprice their 18-month-obsolete hardware and get the gotta-have-the-latest-and-greatest Apple fanboys to wait in line to buy something with minor hardware upgrades.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (4, Insightful)

peragrin (659227) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551550)

making it look nice is 90% of the battle. most consumer devices are far from user friendly. you want to know why the iphone is a smashing success? it has an interface that is designed for the screen that it is displaying on. the ipod? the simple interface is very easy to use and learn.

while other companies duplicate the hardware side, they always fail to design an interface that is simple to use. Or they resort to skinning an interface that isn't simple to use. (every version of win mobile) Palm pre, and chromeOS are both unique. Chrome more than likely won't have proper multi touch support even though it should be easy to install. Palm Pre is suffering the same fate the iphone did when it was first released. no native apps, all web apps.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551642)

The touch is an awful media player. Poor codec support probably the worst on the market, limited to itunes to get the limited supported media on to it. Terrible media control for music - all devices should have back, forward, pause/play buttons and not be limited to clumsy screen buttons that require your to swipe to unlock then press the screen. You should have basic transport control without the need to look at a screen. Very poor sound quality for the price regardless of quality of speaker/headset, each is worse than the previous generation, bloody awful EQ limited to pointless presets that tell you nothing and distort like a $4 transistor radio. There's a reason they pushed the touch to junk games and silly applications, it's garbage for media! Let's not forget the worst LCD in the glass too. Does anyone make a so-called premium device that has such poor viewing angle, where the colors change at the sight tilt of the screen, a screen that isn't even OMLED. Hmmm. Let's add paid OS bug fix releases that they themselves break something else, particularly audiobooks.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (5, Insightful)

mariox19 (632969) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551566)

Apple tends to take other peoples' ideas and make them look nice.

With all due respect, I'm not even sure how to characterize that statement -- "oversimplification" itself seems to be an oversimplification.

If anything, what the iPhone, iPod, and even Mac OS itself demonstrates is that it is a long way from some skunkworks lab at a buttoned-up company to designing and implementing a game-changing product. How is it that even after Apple comes out with its products that its competitors' ripoff copies often look so second-rate by comparison?

But, you go ahead and believe what you want.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (2, Insightful)

RoFLKOPTr (1294290) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551656)

How is it that even after Apple comes out with its products that its competitors' ripoff copies often look so second-rate by comparison?

Patents.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551650)

That's what innovation IS: taking something established and making it better. Of course, these days the word is thrown around with abandon in an attempt to turn its meaning into "invent". But that's not it.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (1)

Azureflare (645778) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551286)

I'm nearly 90% sure this tablet will be using a PixelQi display, and it probably has advanced power savings due to the fact that it won't always need a backlight.

I'm pretty stoked. It's always interesting to see new Apple product launches (I love hardware!) I just hope the cost isn't more than $1500.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (0)

ShooterNeo (555040) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551308)

The only problem you list that is legitimate is the battery sucking color screen. Somehow, through tricks and LED backlights or an OLED screen, they have to get that battery life to an acceptable level. For the intended buyers of this device (people with real jobs and real money) the other things you list are not a problem. It won't require Itunes : this tablet will be able to download it's own updates. It might only access an app store...with hundreds of thousands of applications and lots of well paid developers. During the warranty life, if the battery dies you send it back to apple. Once the AppleCare warranty expires, it's time to pony up for a new one. Or get an unauthorized third party battery replacement kit off of ebay.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (0, Flamebait)

hwyhobo (1420503) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551342)

and it will cost upwards of $1000.

Oh, but it will be extremely cool. It will also be given away free with every new Bimmer, and in SF Bay Area the city of Palo Alto will require that you wave it while entering the city limits.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (4, Insightful)

fermion (181285) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551470)

The button fetish of the PC user is something that needs to be studied. It is like the cup holder fetish of the SUV buyer. I am sure both are symptoms of a previously unpublished metal issue in humans.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (3, Funny)

clang_jangle (975789) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551668)

...symptoms of a previously unpublished metal issue...

What, like lead poisoning? :D

hard power button or else (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551800)

unless i can stop this device from completely draining battery just by sitting there, I ain't buying

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (1)

Larry Lightbulb (781175) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551502)

So an iPod Touch with a bigger screen?

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (5, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551548)

Translation: the only button is a power button, it has a battery-sucking colour screen as opposed to an e-ink display, it requires itunes on a mac or PC to use, the only Apple-approved way to run programs is via an app store, it has a non-user-replaceable battery, and it will cost upwards of $1000.

The scary part? Despite all that, it'll probably still embarrass all of the other companies that have tablet products.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551852)

To be more accurate, "other companies with BETTER tablet products". I've never understood why people buy apple's products when there's far superiour (and cheaper!) alternatives. There really must be something to that reality distortion field.

Re:Jobs is happy with it? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551872)

Depends on your definition of 'superior'. The PSP is 'superior' to the DS, but look how reality is playing out.

You're right, though, you don't understand.

Just Works(tm) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551582)

Translation: the only button is a power button, it has a battery-sucking colour screen as opposed to an e-ink display, it requires itunes on a mac or PC to use, the only Apple-approved way to run programs is via an app store, it has a non-user-replaceable battery, and it will cost upwards of $1000.

And it will generally Just Work(tm) so people on the left-hand side of the Bell curve, as well as people who just want to get work done, will be able to use it with a minimal of hassle.

I have no problem if you want to use an "obscure" operating systems on your desktop, or desire to tinker with things, but please stop being an asshat by disparaging people who want a simple-to-use product and are willing to pay for it.

Wow (4, Insightful)

ShooterNeo (555040) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551272)

Here's what I want a high quality, fast and truly usable tablet for : medical care. It should be possible to walk into a patient's room carrying a clipboard sized device that resembled a giant iphone. You should be able to call up medical records, imagery, and the rest with no detectable latency. (because the tablet should use push downloading : each tablet is assigned to a particular doctor or nurse. The table would cache all medical records for each patient assigned to that doctor or nurse, and if a new report comes out for one of those patients, the tablet should automatically download it over the hospital's wireless network)

It should use a glass topped display, like the iphone, so that you could use caustic chemicals to sterilize the surface. The medical industry has enough money that if this product cost $1500 it would barely be noticed as an expense. (especially if it could boost efficiency)

Apple has as good a chance to make this happen as anyone. Medical users would be running custom software for this tablet, so there's no need for it to be windows compatible. While displaying large 2D images like X-rays will require some CPU horsepower, it's still entirely possible for a low power CPU to do the job. And apple's superior user interfaces and integration with hardware mean that it will be cheaper and easier to train doctors and nurses to use this device.

The biggest technical problems I foresee are back end problems, problems with the EMR software, and battery life.(hospital IT departments tend to fuck things up. If they bought a bunch of apple tablets, they probably wouldn't build and maintain the back end servers and wireless AP correctly)

Also, such a tablet will probably be quite fragile, and fairly heavy.

Remember, YOU (the typical slashdotter running Linux with a windows box for games on desktop machines) are not the intended users for this tablet. YOU probably sit at a desk all day. You have enough technical expertise that tinkering is fun for you, and you don't mind the idea of a tablet on kludgey, cheap hardware that is running open source software.

Re:Wow (1)

ickleberry (864871) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551378)

High quality? forget Apple. When was the last time Apple released a ruggedised device? That is just not the business they are in. They produce expensive, fashionable electronics that go out of fashion after a year or two.

Re:Wow (1, Informative)

ShooterNeo (555040) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551456)

Look at FairTrade's reliability data. Apple is one of the manufacturers of the most reliable laptop computers. Sure, they aren't ruggedized laptops : but toughbooks are an extremely expensive niche device. For the overwhelming majority of applications and users, it's cheaper to buy the extended warranty against accidental damage than to buy a ruggedized laptop.

Re:Wow (2, Informative)

Ash-Fox (726320) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551586)

Apple is one of the manufacturers of the most reliable laptop computers.

I worked in Unis, large corporations and I found from these places that Apple laptops had a rather large amount of "logicboard failures" and bad manufacturing practices in their products (super amounts of thermal paste, poor soldering) as opposed to HP business laptops, Thinkpads, Acer that had very few issues in comparison... From my large experience, I am skeptical of anyone claiming this.

Re:Wow (3, Interesting)

dropadrop (1057046) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551818)

From my experience during the last 4 years I would say it's not so simple. We have about 50% employees with Apple, rest with Acer business notebooks. Acer has close to double failure rate, pretty evenly divided between models and revisions. Apple has loads of problems with first gen products and very little after the third revision or so. For example we had tens of G4 powerbooks during the last year they where produced, and only one or two went in for warrenty. About 30% of our macbook pro's during the first year after release had motherboards replaced (later models have been pretty good). A lot of macbooks had problems too...

Re:Wow (1)

alen (225700) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551896)

i'm typing this on a HP Compaq 8510p, a business laptop. maybe i'm unlucky but it seems like mine is self destructing. SquareTrade's figures put Apple at #3 and Asus at #1. those are pre unibody aluminum MBP MacBook Pro figures too.

Re:Wow (3, Insightful)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551448)

While this is a nice Christmassy fantasy (one that I would love to fall into) it ain't gonna happen:

1) Apple doesn't do well with big, clunky Enterprise customers who have their own agendas and ideas (AT&T notwithstanding)

2) Medical systems DO run Windows. Sorry, but it's true. Some of them are coming off of IE 6 as we speak. Some of them. Now, the trend towards making everything run in a browser might mitigate that somewhat, as long as the browser isn't IE 6.

3. If you run the software in the browser, then you are at the mercy of whatever idiot UI got slapped on to the software at the last moment. If you've worked with medical software, you will quickly realize that nobody spends any time getting the interface even remotely correct.

4. For Apple's vaunted strategy of tightly coupling the app with the hardware to work out, you have to have a dozen goofball vendors agree to do things the same way. Not going to happen in our lifetimes.

But keep smoking what you're smoking and don't Bogart that joint!

Re:Wow (1)

ShooterNeo (555040) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551522)

As I puff out a cloud of marijuana smoke laced with LSD, I think of a world where medical EMR software was require by federal law to store it's data in an open format that could be read by multiple vendors....

Then, you could use your slick apple tablet running some high quality EMR software, bought right through the app store in a competitive market, that would be able to read and write to the records stored on the hospital's clunky back-end servers running last century's EMR app...

Re:Wow (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551614)

Like I said, don't Bogart that joint....

Re:Wow (1)

ShooterNeo (555040) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551798)

That bit about EMR standards and Federal law...that isn't a drug induced fantasy...I don't think....hard to see what's on CNN with all these LSD unicorns frolicking in my visual field. Man, this is gooooooooood shit. Good thing for legalized marijuana, eh?

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551480)

Re:Wow (1)

ShooterNeo (555040) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551544)

Kind of like the smartphone market before the iphone. None of those vendors have the resources to make a fully integrated product like the iphone, with a smooth as glass UI, a full toolchain, a large third party market for software, and some of the best hardware available. (sure, in raw specs the iphone isn't the best, but for its form factor it is unsurpassed)

Re:Wow (1)

Larry Lightbulb (781175) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551516)

A secure PC in every room make more sense than a portable device - the only doctors rushing about aren't the ones who would be looking at medical charts.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551540)

90% of (the cost of) what you describe is an IT integration problem, i.e. the information systems need to be able to produce all this information, integrate calendars, etc. So what you want is a portable device with quality screen, CPU and battery that has an OPEN PLATFORM so that your medical system vendor can develop the client for it. Anyone can develop a client that's easy enough to use by doctors & nurses if that's what you require (and are ready to pay for). Having a nice tablet HW from Apple won't solve anything since apple doesn't have X-ray picture management pruducts that it would seamlesly integrate to.

Re:Wow (2, Interesting)

BlueBoxSW.com (745855) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551542)

I like your vision, but you need two more things: A barcode scanner (otherwise you can't scan patients and meds) and the cooperation of the closed systems (GE, Siemens, etc.) that run hospitals.

Re:Wow (1)

Yamata no Orochi (1626135) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551634)

These things exist and are in place already. What I can tell you from the last year and a half of working with them is that as it stands, they're fucking GARBAGE. The slim form factor has heat mitgations issues and freezes up constantly. Possibly for the same reasons, they're incredibly slow and it's increasingly difficult to insure good wireless reliability. Ours come from a company called Motion, and I dunno if it's because the platform is in its infancy or not, but so far it's been the single biggest cause of headaches in this health system.

Re:Wow (1)

ShooterNeo (555040) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551784)

Did you see the idea of push downloading? You could configure it so that all your assigned patients, or even all patients for a particular area of the hospital would get automatically sent to your device. The network software would also need a priority scheme : if a user made an actual request for data, that should get priority over automatic push updates. Go use an iphone. Notice how it doesn't have the problems you are describing?

Re:Wow (2, Insightful)

capt.Hij (318203) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551618)

That does sound great. Someone wrote an app for that, but unfortunatley it was rejected. When the folks at Apple realized that it was for medical use and that someone might see the words "penis," "areola," or "clavicle" the app was not allowed to be sold in their store. Since it is not officially blessed by Apple you cannot use it even though you purchased the damn thing and presumably are an adult. Now be quiet, go browse the web like a nice doctor, and move along.

Re:Wow (1)

jonbryce (703250) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551856)

This isn't Apple's target market. The only niche business user Apple is likely to target with this is the photographer or film maker on-location. If this can serve them better than a Mac Book Pro, then Apple will do it. I can't think how it would though, but I suppose that's why I don't have Jonathan Ive's job.

Technical Problems? (1)

jaypifer (64463) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551870)

There really aren't any technical problems for this. Take your pick of reasons, but hospitals spend plenty of money on terribly designed devices that don't speak to one another.

As an example, next time you are there take a look at the massive proprietary whatchamacallit connectors they use on their machines when much simpler industry standard plugs could be used. And I thought HDMI cables were expensive. Another interesting thought is what happens when one of these wonder devices is stolen? Or is it communicating on impossibly secure wireless?

I highly doubt if there is one single reason for this failure, but sufficiently advanced technology isn't it.

iSlate ? (1)

hey (83763) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551334)

What do you think about the iSlate name?

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=en&source=hp&q=iSlate [google.com]

Is Late (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551394)

"Is Late"? Sounds like a product that will be delayed and delayed again.

Re:iSlate ? (1)

jo42 (227475) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551474)

The "iSlate" trademark belongs to Slate Computing: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4010:tovtfs.2.1 [uspto.gov]

Various "iPad" trademarks belong to various companies that are not Apple and "iTablet" belongs to some company out of Taiwan.

If you want to guess what Apple will call it, search the US trademark database to see what trademarks Apple holds...

Re:iSlate ? (1)

jonbryce (703250) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551884)

A lot of people predicted that Apple would call their TV thingy an "iTV", except people in Britain who were aware that that is the name of our largest commercial television channel which has been around a lot longer than Apple. In the end it was called the Apple TV, so maybe this will be called the Apple Tablet?

finally (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551356)

the kindle killer comes to market

how extraordinary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551410)

Oh, how extraordinary. Someone in a tech company is rumored to be satisfied with an as yet unanounced product. I'm wondering if the guys at Asus are satisfied with their actually anounced tablet product. Because we do know that that thing actually exists.

Jeez, every time someone mentions the word apple, half the press get into a hyping freny....

Re:how extraordinary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551654)

Did you say Apple! OMG!!! I want one! Now excuse me while I go to the bathroom for a few minutes.

Next month? (1)

riker1384 (735780) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551428)

If he's just now become happy with the prototype, how are they going to be mass-producing it and selling it in just a month?

Tablet Prediction: (-1, Flamebait)

popo (107611) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551530)

Disclaimer, this is in no way a flame -- I am an Apple user.

But like most Apple products (particularly 1st gen Apple products), it will likely sacrifice usability for minimalism and geometric symmetry.

Like the "borderless keyboard", the "hockeypuck mouse" of the iMac (who can forget that disaster), the semi-usable onscreen keyboard of the iPhone, and the single button "cyclops" mouse ("We will not under any circumstances admit that Microsoft's wheel-mouse actually rocks") ...Apple will no conveniently dismiss the necessity of ergonomics, and the asymmetry of the human hand in favor of visual simplicity.

It's my one beef with Apple (and I say this about their HARDWARE design specifically) -- They're so far off in the land of contoured plastic minimalism that they've forgotten about the spectacularly weird shapes that humans come in.

I hope I'm wrong about the tablet -- but I'm betting a slightly uglier, less minimalistic version would work better ergonomically for most people...

Of course -- "most" people buy the iPhone because its sexy, not because it's usable... so what do I know...

ninny (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551598)

ura ninny

apple is kool

makes me kool2

Re:Tablet Prediction: (4, Insightful)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551602)

Of course -- "most" people buy the iPhone because its sexy, not because it's usable... so what do I know...

Well, for one thing you apparently don't know why people really buy an iPhone - the success of the apps store indicates that usability matters a lot to people. I'd also argue that the same design principles that make the iPhone "sexy" are also what's made it such a useful little gadget.

I've got an iPod Touch rather than an iPhone, but the same argument applies. Having one well-designed device that serves as my hyperfocal distance calculator, my "on the go" email checker, play-games-on-the-train machine, and even (in a pinch) allows me to run a vnc session over ssh is a plus in my book. Having tried other poorly-thought-out solutions (*cough* windows mobile *cough*) (*cough* multiple Linux desktop environments *cough*), I'd say it's pretty obvious design significantly affects usability.

But don't let reason get in the way of your narrative.

Re:Tablet Prediction: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551638)

Of course -- "most" people buy Apple products because they're sexy, not because they're usable... so what do I know...

FTFY.

Re:Tablet Prediction: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551694)

At least the perfectly symmetric devices produced by Apple work equally bad for both right- and left-handed users. ;) A perfectly ergonomic device designed for one group is almost completely unusable for the other.

Begrudging Respect (1, Flamebait)

LibertineR (591918) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551612)

As much as I dislike the overhyping (and overpricing) of everything Apple creates, I have to give it to Jobs, for stealing the technical marketing thunder for 2010 with this tablet.

Here come the endless stories and speculation; the masses of apple fanboys ready to re-mortgage their condo's to pay for this thing, and the articles; OH, THE ARTICLES!

Dont cha love the 20page reviews with a single paragraph per page and enough ads to lock up your Noscript?

The guy knows what he's doing. They will sell millions of them, whether they suck or not.....

Ooooo shiny new tablet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30551640)

You better believe they'll charge 5+ times too much... and you better believe people will still buy it because it is shiny.

Too bad I ain't suckered in.

PC forever.

Apple ___ to revolutionise consumer electronics (4, Funny)

David Gerard (12369) | more than 4 years ago | (#30551816)

Apple is reportedly close to launching its long-rumored [newstechnica.com] ____. It could be Apple's latest billion-dollar jackpot.

Analyst speculation says the ___ will be launched in September and be in the shops by Christmas. A new mention of the ___ crops up on Twitter around every eight minutes.

The ___ is rumoured to be any size and scale between the iPod Shuffle and the Macintosh IIfx. Some have described the ___ as a "___-killer." Analyst speculation suggests the ___ will use a fantastic new interface. "It will be a whole new paradigm," said Apple blogger Leander Kahney.

Expectations flared when technology research analysts noted that Taiwanese suppliers had received orders from an unknown buyer for a particular obscure component to be filled by the end of the year. "The only possible conclusion is that Apple will launch a ___ by early next year," said Kahney. "They've been working on the ___ for the past six years. People expect it to be the ultimate Apple surprise. This thing will knock people's socks off."

Apple has refused to comment on the ___ speculation. But Tim Cook, its chief operating officer, recently hinted that the company was working on something "very innovative." Steve Jobs is thought to have been personally involved in the development of the ___ over the past two years.

Daniel Eran Dilger noted on roughlydrafted.com that the ___ would need to be fueled on pain, angst, the destruction of the ecology, the torture of kittens and the tears of widows and orphans, but put together a devastatingly convincing and very lengthy explanation as to why Apple's actions were the only humanly acceptable option for the consumer, the technology industry and the future of humanity, and that Jobs' Nobel Peace Prize was ridiculously overdue. And that all problems were clearly Microsoft's fault.

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