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Google Nexus Rumored To Cost $530 Or $180 w/Plan

CmdrTaco posted more than 4 years ago | from the it-better-be-good dept.

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wkurzius writes "The new Google phone, the Nexus One, is rumored to cost $530 unlocked and will work on any GSM network. A subsidized version is also available for $180 and will get you a T-Mobile Even More Individual 500 Plan for 2-years with a $350 termination fee. Access to the phone is supposed to be invite only at first, with January 5th being the supposed release date."

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eat my shorts slashdot you too google !! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597114)

Eat my shorts slashdot you too google !!

Invite only? (4, Insightful)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597140)

Seriously? Since when the hell is the ability to buy a phone "invite only"? I swear the social aspect of phone ownership is getting ridiculous.

Re:Invite only? (4, Interesting)

CyberLord Seven (525173) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597226)

Consider yourself fortunate that you are not on the invite list. Remember the dorks who bought the iPhone when it first came out? Remember those same dorks just a few months later when Apple dropped the price? :)

I suspect this invite only thing is just to drum up interest in the phone. Soon, everyone and his brother will be able to buy one just like Gmail.

Smart move (2, Interesting)

copponex (13876) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597352)

Good move from a marketing standpoint. They pick out users who are more likely to be technologically savvy, and those users won't flood the internet with complaints like "TEH PHONE DOSNT WORK W/ITUNES... WOULD NOT BY AGAIN"

By the time it launches widely, there will be some very interesting projects they can show off. I'm waiting to see what if there will be an SDK and what kind of access users will have to the phone. Hopefully it will be wide open.

Re:Smart move (3, Informative)

beeverteeth (853575) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597756)

Yeah, there will be an SDK... Android SDK :rolleyes:

Re:Invite only? (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597712)

For some, ( not me ) the fact you get to be first in line for the latest shiny object is worth the extra cost to them.

Re:Invite only? (1)

negRo_slim (636783) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598092)

For some, ( not me ) the fact you get to be first in line for the latest shiny object is worth the extra cost to them.

But what if said product could Change Your Life! [scribd.com]

Re:Invite only? (3, Insightful)

alecto (42429) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597260)

Just a marketing gimmick to make people feel elite. Invites will be about as scarce as Gmail invites.

Re:Invite only? (2, Interesting)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597286)

And/or a marketing gimmick to map who knows who...

Re:Invite only? (1)

rawr_one (1474675) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598284)

Do you not remember how scarce Gmail invites were back when it launched? You picked a poor example.

Re:Invite only? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597394)

It's google's favourite little marketing ploy, to get everyone worked up and make their latest product(wave, voice, gmail, etc) seem elite and super-cool, each person who buys one is likely going to end up with a dozen invites of their own to send around, or sell on ebay... Fingers crossed they'll have the word "Beta" incribed on the facia of the phone, that'd make it super awesome.

Re:Invite only? (1)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597466)

There isn't a 'social aspect' to the phone other than using it to call other people.

Even most kids to who the 'social' aspect would be important don't give a shit beyond the basics.

People care more about the social aspect of their forks than they do about their phones.

Re:Invite only? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597560)

Cell phones were a status symbol. In the 1990s.

Re:Invite only? (4, Insightful)

xch13fx (1463819) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598312)

umm, the razr was a status symbol, as soon as the price dropped and att stopped having exclusivity people began to hate theirs. Blackberrys, and treos then became the phones to have. The iphone is now the phone people want to be seen talking on and I imagine those who like that aspect best are getting tired of seeing other people with iphones. I guess your right that the mere fact that you had a cell in the 90s was a big deal, but now the type of phone you have is indeed a status symbol.

Re:Invite only? (1)

FreshlyShornBalls (849004) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597586)

Seriously? Since when the hell is the ability to buy a phone "invite only"? I swear the social aspect of phone ownership is getting ridiculous.

That's not how I read the post. The *launch / announcement party* is invite only. That doesn't mean purchasing the phone is invite only.

They didn't think this through (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597598)

How to you get your Nexus invite without a Nexus?

Re:Invite only? (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597622)

It's probably to restrict a limited initial stock of the device to the customers who will give the greatest return. Who ever thought that a ubiquitous item, and one that performs communications at that, might have a social aspect though, eh?

An ode to Southpark (1)

Stick32 (975497) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597904)

They are clearly applying the "you can't come here" approach to marketing.

Re:Invite only? (1)

PieSquared (867490) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597906)

Google starts many of their services as invite-only. Consider it a beta test where the testers have to pay for the privilege, and are strictly limited in number. As opposed to all the other recent smartphones where the beta testers had to pay for the privilege but weren't limited in number.

Re:Invite only? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30598230)

But this is a total game-changer! An iPhone killer!

Isn't it?

So (3, Interesting)

jimbobborg (128330) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597152)

Who got invited? Whoopi Goldberg? Or one of the celebs on the T-Mobile Android ads?

And $530 for an unlocked phone that will last about three years? Really?

Re:So (1)

linzeal (197905) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597506)

That is about 15 bucks a month, not too bad. As long as they have an unlimited data plan for about 50 bucks I would do it.

Re:So (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597676)

Dude, the actual cost of an iPhone to a retailer is over $900 (in Canada, so it may be less in the states). At $530 with the specs this phone has, Google is already heavily subsidizing the phone out of their own pockets, hence the five per account limit which is still generous. Stop your fucking whining - if you want the phone to last, treat it well.

Re:So (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597730)

The contract handset won't last any longer than the no-obligation one, and might work out cheaper. I dunno about the US, but if I go to a UK phone company and don't ask for a handset I save a third on the monthly rate and leave at a month's notice, putting the equivalent of about $400 in my pocket.

Re:So (2, Interesting)

bberens (965711) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597864)

I've ranted about this plenty of times on slashdot. There is no such program in the US. You can buy a "pay as you go" phone but the cost/minute is generally higher than the contract plans. Bringing your own phone to the deal only grants you the freedom to not sign a contract for a *normal* monthly plan. There is no discount whatsoever.

Re:So (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30598032)

There is no such program?? Except the one T-mobile offers where you get ~ $10 discount per month is you bring your own phone or buy it a retail price?

Re:So (4, Informative)

b0bby (201198) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598146)

Actually, it seems T-mobile is doing just that now - "Even More" is their standard subsidized phones + 2 year contract deal, "Even More Plus" is the same plans but no "free" phones or contracts & $10/month less. Maybe the other carriers will follow if T-mobile starts getting people to switch because of this.

OTOH, if you want T-mobile & a Google phone, it makes more sense to pay the extra $10/month to get the subsidized phone, because the amount of subsidy (($530-$180)/24) is almost $15/month.

Unlocked? Not until I get a monthly discount! (1)

Ossifer (703813) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597792)

I'd gladly buy an unlocked phone and switch to the best US carrier for me, just give me an equivalent monthly discount on my service... AT&T ?? ... Verizon ?? ... T-Mobile ?? ... Sprint ?? ... Bueller?? ... Anyone ??

Re:Unlocked? Not until I get a monthly discount! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597994)

I'd gladly buy an unlocked phone and switch to the best US carrier for me, just give me an equivalent monthly discount on my service... AT&T ?? ... Verizon ?? ... T-Mobile ?? ... Sprint ?? ... Bueller?? ... Anyone ??

T-Mobile recently changed their rate plans to do just that...I think it's about $10 a month less for no contract and no discount on phones.

A little more competition is a good thing (5, Interesting)

DJRumpy (1345787) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597158)

I can only hope this brings down the cost of these phones. The prices are already greater than the cost of netbooks and bargain laptops/desktops. I realize that miniaturization is a factor, but we really need more strong competitors in this area. I would much prefer a non-subsidized phone except the price is a little daunting all in one lump sum.

Re:A little more competition is a good thing (2, Informative)

pclminion (145572) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597216)

The lump sum does suck. I've been using T-Mobile for about 10 years, and haven't really had anything to complain about, but I still hate the contract. I was poking around their online phone store and saw that they are now offering financing for the newer touchscreens with NO CONTRACT, which is pretty nice. It works out to about $20 a month, and it's 0% APR. I was going to take the plunge, but then I saw that the Nexus was coming out any day now. So maybe I'll wait and see if they offer a similar financing deal for the Nexus.

Re:A little more competition is a good thing (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597804)

There plenty of inexpensive unlocked 'smart phones' out there now, if you want to look across the ocean to china. Sure, you have to be careful in what you choose, and you may not want to support the country ( clue: most phones are made there anyway... ) but they are available if you want..

Re:A little more competition is a good thing (3, Interesting)

Seor Jojoba (519752) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597946)

Just buy it with a credit card. And pay the debt off at $20/month or whatever is convenient. You'll be better off in the long run, because we'll get the carriers to start competing as big dumb pipes. The emphasis will be on coverage/speed for the buck, instead of some wacky chase after the latest "It" phone. We should all stop being scared off by upfront costs and letting phone carriers handle our financing through subsidies.

Re:A little more competition is a good thing (5, Insightful)

DJRumpy (1345787) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598062)

I think these smart phones have gone far beyond being an 'It' phone. This isn't some hot item that one quickly loses interest in within a few weeks. I bought my first smart phone (an iPhone) a few years ago. I still use it heavily. Having the internet in your pocket is a huge convenience for all sorts of circumstances. The apps are just icing. I use mine 5 times a week at the gym, I look up prices, I check release dates for movies, music, and media, all while I'm out and about. These have real purpose far beyond just being an accessory to one's clothes.

They are essentially a mini-pc in your pocket, and I hardly need to extol the benefits of a PC to this crowd ;)

Re:A little more competition is a good thing (2, Insightful)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598174)

Note there are smartphones in the low end too (e.g., the Nokia 5800 I got without contract at £180).

No thanks (4, Informative)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597162)

Those wanting to buy the handset subsidized will pay $180 and have to sign up for a two year contract. There appears to be only one plan available for these customers, and that is the T-Mobile Even More Individual 500 Plan, which gives you 500 minutes, free weekend and in-network calls and unlimited SMS, MMS and data. That bring the total cost over two years to $2,100.

The unsubsidized price + a data plan is vastly cheaper

Re:No thanks (3, Insightful)

Shadow of Eternity (795165) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597316)

My whole family gets unlimited messages, data, and 700 minutes with myfaves (two blackberries and a generic nokia) for a little less than twice that.

Then again they are targeting the young male "I have less sense than money" demographic.

Re:No thanks (1)

BrokenHalo (565198) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597426)

Then again they are targeting the young male "I have less sense than money" demographic.

Why male? Most of the candidates I've seen in this category are female.

Re:No thanks (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597510)

Reminds me of my favorite yo mama joke. Yo mama so STUPID, she fucked yo daddy!

... sorry

Re:No thanks (1)

jedrek (79264) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597544)

I would have absolutely no use for 200 more minutes or two extra accounts.

Then again, I'm not one of those people who thinks that everything isn't specifically targeted at them to be stupid.

Re:No thanks (1)

SBrach (1073190) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598034)

If you don't already know this I am sorry. T-mobile sucks now. They jacked up their prices and nothing you have is available anymore. My faves is gone. Unlimited text for ten bucks is now 20. 700 minutes isn't offered on family plans. You are grandfathered in until you decide you need more minutes or want to upgrade a line with a phone that requires a NEW talk + text + web activation (any smartphone). I am currently paying ~$110 a month for 4 lines, 1000 minutes, unlimited text, and one BB plan because I am grandfathered in. The same plan with T-Mobile now that they have their "half the cost of Verizon and ATT" plans is ~$150 with a 2 year contract or $130 a month with no contract but you pay retail for the phones, so for the BB, Highlight, Gravity, and generic Nokia I have now I would have to put up over $1000 to buy the phones and then pay $20 more a month. Sprint has the best deal for a family plan that I have seen recently.

Re:No thanks (1)

spuke4000 (587845) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597398)

A little bit OT, but in the states if you buy an unlocked phone can you get a plan that does not include a subsidy for another phone? That is, if I buy an iPhone I'm going to pay $90/month or so, but some of that includes the price of the phone. If I have my own iPhone, or after my initial two year contract (after I've paid off the phone) is it possible to get a cheaper plan? My understanding is no, but please correct me if I'm wrong. So, if I buy a nexus one unlocked can I get a cheaper plan than if I bought the $180 one?

Re:No thanks (1)

Nephilium (684559) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597660)

Actually... with T-Mobile, at least when I was recently pricing out Voice and Data plans, the no contract plan was $20 cheaper then the contract plan.

Nephilium

Re:No thanks (2, Insightful)

Bigjeff5 (1143585) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597476)

Remember that you have to buy the more expensive smartphone data plans for this phone - usually $30 per month for just the data portion.

The subsidised plan is $80 a month when you take away the price of the phone, so the unsub plan would need to be less than $65 per month to make it cheaper. That's a tough one to get where I live, but it is possible. It's not "vastly cheaper" though. To look at it another way, you need to save at least $15 on the monthly bill to do better with the unsubbed phone. If you're saving $20-25 per month, then you're getting into the "vastly cheaper" area. If you can get a deal like that, I'm extremely jealous regardless of the phone.

Re:No thanks (2, Informative)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597534)

I pay $55/mo for my smartphone data plan + voice on T-Mobile. I do have the most basic voice plan available, but it's definitely there for well cheaper than $80/mo.

Re:No thanks (1)

ifwm (687373) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597956)

"Remember that you have to buy the more expensive smartphone data plans for this phone - usually $30 per month for just the data portion." No, you don't, actually.

Re:No thanks (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597766)

You're going to be paying for a service plan on the unsubsidised handset, though. You'll make a saving depending on how much you actually need, but the total cost of ownership of the unsubsidised handset over the same two year period is probably closer to $1500.

Re:No thanks (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597772)

And its yours out of the gate. But its all still a big ripoff.

Subsidy lock? (4, Interesting)

alecto (42429) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597198)

If someone buys the phone with the subsidy then subsequently leaves T-mo and pays the ETF, will T-mo unlock the phone? Also, is the ETF prorated? In any case, it seems that the combination of a cheap phone for voice and a netbook/laptop + WiFi or if ubiquitous access is necessary a data stick are a better deal for the money.

Re:Subsidy lock? (1)

alen (225700) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597278)

i think its unlocked out of the box contract or not. it's the crazy ETF you have to pay which is OK since everyone knows people will try to resell this baby on ebay for some quick cash

Re:Subsidy lock? (1)

rickb928 (945187) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597782)

If this phone only supports T-Mobile's 3G bands, there is little point to locking it in the first place.

Moving to AT&T gets you a 2G phone on EDGE, which is a very undesireable phone, especially if you want those data features that mean lots of data.

And taking it overseas is unlikely and risks the same problem - 2G in a 3G world.

In fact, only CDMA phones have significant competition that could inspire a user to take a phone to another carrier, and I wonder how incompatible Sprint's 3G network is with Verizon's.

The locking is less and less useful because of these incompatible, unique data network protocols.

Oh, and the point about an UNsubsidized rate plan? Brilliant! We b gettin screwed after our plan is completed, and no carrier dares actually put a price on the subsidy.

Re:Subsidy lock? (1)

pesho (843750) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598060)

T-mo are actually very helpful when you need to unlock the phone. I have unlocked 2 phones with them in the past couple of years. One was an old set that got replaced after contract renewal. The other one is still under contract. I asked them for the unlock code so I can switch the SIM when traveling abroad and avoid the roaming charges. They were very prompt sending me e-mail with the code and detailed instructions how to unlock the phone. Their customer service is the major reason I am still with them.

Invite only? (1)

nitelord (824762) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597204)

Great, an INVITE ONLY phone? That's a first.

This is just FUD (2, Interesting)

walruz (851125) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597224)

I've seen this post on many other sites, all referencing to the gizmodo link, which is a mockup of the page which is supposed to be the actual page offering the phone. No confirmation, no real data, no journalism.. just plain old FUD.

Re:This is just FUD (5, Informative)

signingis (158683) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597546)

"just plain old FUD."

You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Re:This is just FUD (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597874)

I fail to see the addition of the following elements:

Fear (no scare tactics, says the release is Jan 5)
Uncertainty (It is listing specific dates, no speak of the boogieman)
Doubt (again, very specific)

While it may be speculative, it certainly isn't FUD. Keep using the term like that, and it will cease to mean anything at all.

whining about prices (4, Interesting)

Ritz_Just_Ritz (883997) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597242)

Like all the other smartphones in recent memory, they cost a fortune if you're an early adopter. If you don't want to get mugged then just wait a couple of months for the hoopla to die down. Your old phone won't stop working in the interim if you don't have the latest whizbang handset the day after its release.

CDMA? (0, Offtopic)

bcong (1125705) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597250)

Why is it that CDMA is always left by the wayside? It seems as though all new, cool phones always end up GSM...and never go CDMA. Is it really in the minority so much that vendors pass it by? ....or is it that I need to change my provider?

Re:CDMA? (1)

pclminion (145572) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597326)

Why do people draw this comparison? GSM is a network standard, CDMA is a modulation. The appropriate comparison would be TDMA vs CDMA, since TDMA is the modulation used by GSM. Yeah, yeah, it's marketing but it bugs me. It's like trying to compare a PC brand with a CPU brand. It's apples and oranges.

Re:CDMA? (1)

bcong (1125705) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597478)

CDMA is shorthand for CDMA2000 of course...so the comparison still stands

Re:CDMA? (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597630)

That might have something to do with the thing that early versions of current "CDMA" networks had..."CDMA" prominently in their name. It stuck around.

Compare to "Mac vs. Intel" before 2006 (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597694)

It's like trying to compare a PC brand with a CPU brand.

In other words, it'd be like comparing "Macintosh" computers to "Intel based" computers back in 2005: not inappropriate given that Macs were still on PowerPC back then. In the States, "CDMA" means CDMA2000, as bcon pointed out.

Re:CDMA? (1, Informative)

iron-kurton (891451) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597336)

The business answer to your question is: GSM is used by the rest of the world, CDMA only by America. CDMA = limiting your potential market.

Re:CDMA? (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597338)

Worldwide marketshare, or lack thereof.

Also, at least until very recently, Verizon, the CMDA carrier of real note, was notorious for their enthusiasm for crippling phones and "standardizing" interfaces with heavy applications of the ugly stick.

There is a market there, so the phones do eventually get made; but it isn't exactly a thrilling zone of innovative freedom.

Re:CDMA? (1)

gibbsjoh (186795) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597392)

Outside the US (and Japan?), it's GSM - something like 3 billion handsets according to the GSM Association. Not saying one is better than the other, just that GSM has a far higher market share worldwide.

Re:CDMA? (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597594)

Around 3.7 billion at this point probably - there are 4.6 billion mobile phones now, with supposedly 80% of that being "GSM".

At that market share, I would say it is very much better; assuming the tech itself is irrelevant in practice, the mere ability to use your mobile phone throughout most of the inhabited world is big (of course it helps that you can actually move the phone to local carrier by simply inserting their SIM card)

Re:CDMA? (1)

Spectre (1685) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597442)

Pick up an HTC Hero ... CDMA, same phone internals, you'll have to wait a few months to get Android V2.0, but it will be out in early 2009.

Re:CDMA? (1)

phobos512 (766371) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597658)

Sorry, but no, it is not the same phone hardware, internally or externally. It is widely understood that the Nexus One is a variant of the HTC Passion/Bravo which is a Qualcomm Snapdragon-based phone. The HERO is the tired MSM7xxx architecture as the Droid Eris and other prior generation HTC phones.

Re:CDMA? (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597836)

If you have to wait a few months for something that will be out in early 2009, you are doing something wrong.

Re:CDMA? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597924)

CDMA - eww!
Same phone internals? Where's the snapdragon?
Early 2009 huh?

Re:CDMA? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597482)

CDMA is being switched off in many of the very few countries that use it. CDMA is definitely a minority.

Re:CDMA? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597498)

It actually might be a 'world phone' with both GSM and CDMA capability. http://www.dancewithshadows.com/tech/google-nexus-one-phone-set-for-january-2010-launch/

Re:CDMA? (-1)

Bigjeff5 (1143585) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597662)

CDMA is 2g, GSM is 3g, and there is 4g in the works (sprint has rolled out some in limited areas).

Everything new is GSM because GSM is the newer tech. GSM can handle a lot more data than CDMA, which is why there are very few good smartphones that use CDMA. Also, GSM is more popular now than CDMA, so unless you're going to manufacture two different phones, you make a GSM phone only.

It's just progress, CDMA2000 was an slight upgrade to technically bring it up to 3g specs, but the margin is so tight in reality it never gets close. 3g simply allows a better cell phone experience than CDMA.

You can't really blame manufacturers for moving on, smartphones aren't nearly as useful on a CDMA network.

Re:CDMA? (1)

dbcad7 (771464) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597988)

There is just too much in your post to address..

prices? (2, Interesting)

Lord Ender (156273) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597306)

Finally, an unlocked smartphone! But what is the cheapest voice+data plan you could use it with? Will it be possible to use it with a pre-pay carrier, like Virgin Mobile?

I don't talk much, and I'm rarely far from a real computer, but I would love to have the ability to get on the web from a smartphone available to me.

Re:prices? (2, Informative)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597566)

If you go pure VOIP then you can get data-only plans for $40 per month.

Re:prices? (3, Informative)

jabbathewocket (1601791) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597636)

There are unlocked smartphones all over the place? this is not new.. but you cannot use virgin mobile or any of the other sprint wannabe phone companies in the states for it.. as they dont offer data.. You will basically have to goto tmobile, and buy a data only plan on flexpay (no contract prepaid, essentially you can pick any plan t-mobile offers and have it where you pay first, then use minutes versus the more standard postpay market in the states) You can also buy any phone tmobile offers on this unsubsidized plan TODAY if you want (and if your credit is good they will even finance the hardware for you)

Re:prices? (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597922)

No reason why it shouldn't work on pre-pay. A SIM is a SIM is a SIM as far as the handset's concerned.

Re:prices? (4, Interesting)

Seor Jojoba (519752) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598164)

The funny thing is that T-Mobile offers a pretty decent plan with 3G data for $50/month which would be my first choice. But if you buy the subsidized phone, you get the spendy $80/month plan which doesn't really have good value to warrant the extra cost, IMO. Difference seems to be just more minutes and unlimited SMSs. So I could see buying the unsubsidized phone, and just getting the cheaper T-Mobile data plan separately.

Also, T-Mobile is one of the major carriers that refused to turn over customer information to US officials without a warrant. And they got KZJ, who is much sexier than the "Can You Hear Me Now" guy.

GSM = Bad in San Diego (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597384)

The CDMA carriers are much better in San Diego, especially in the valleys and downtown.

Hello (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597592)

Alright gentlemen, I've seem to have gotten myself into another bind. Allow me to explain. Seems my boss here is extremely long-winded and is a "time eater." He constantly ambles by my desk and postulates about all of his project load and how I can best assist him.

Well today took the proverbial cake. I had just chugged two Monster drinks and was in dire need of a restroom break to relieve myself. Not wanting to appear rude I allowed my boss to continue his diatribe to the point where my torso started to cramp up. By the time he was nearly finished I couldn't hold it in any longer. And accidentally urinated myself.

So here I now sit, with my agenda binder covering my lap and an unsightly dark stain on my trousers. And my boss is still hovering down the hall between myself and the restroom.

Any suggestions on how to most craftily make an escape and not draw attention to myself? The worst part of the scenario is that I had an asparagus omlette for breakfast so my scent is most foul...

Re:Hello (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597872)

Spill your coffee in your lap, and yell out "SON OF A BITCH!"

Gizmo5 integration on Jan 5th too? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597652)

I was hoping the voip service of gizmo5 would be integrated in to google voice in time for the nexus one so they could sell it with a data plan only option. Also, the $350 ETF makes sense, it just converts the upfront $180 price to unlocked $530 price.

Very disappointing (2, Interesting)

ekool (25857) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597728)

There are a lot of disappointed people over @ nexusoneforum.net with regards to the pricing. It sounds to me like Google lost alot of good will with such a high unsubsidized price.
 
Discussion here: Nexus One Pricing Discussion [nexusoneforum.net]

No keyboard = do not want (1, Offtopic)

snarfies (115214) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597736)

For $530, I expect, nay, demand, to have actual physical buttons to dial with.

Re:No keyboard = do not want (2, Funny)

Bigjeff5 (1143585) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597800)

Why? The touchscreen buttons are so much easier.

Re:No keyboard = do not want (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30597876)

Not everyone is like you. [wikipedia.org]

Re:No keyboard = do not want (1)

Buelldozer (713671) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598286)

It's really hard to blind dial with a virtual keypad.

Re:No keyboard = do not want (1)

AP31R0N (723649) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597992)

And reach around.

Re:No keyboard = do not want (1)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598072)

For that price, I want a dial to dial with. And when it rings, I want it to ring, not warble some digital music.

Re:No keyboard = do not want (1)

fermion (181285) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598120)

There was a time when solid state was a selling point. Mechanical switches break. Solid State may burn out, but will not crack from the cheap plastic used. Every says how wonderful mechanical keyboards are, but those keyboards were expensive. I certainly want a good keyboard, but would not be willing to pay $200 for it.

Everything is a trade off. Design, build, and warranty against the defects in a keyboard, or use that money to build something innovate. With bluetooth connection, there is nothing to break on the modern solid state phone. The only thing I every see break on a modern smart phone is the slide keyboard.

Re:No keyboard = do not want (1)

b0bby (201198) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598208)

Screw that, for $530 I demand a rotary dial!

Re:No keyboard = do not want (1)

krelvin (771644) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598226)

Don't need a physical keyboard. Got to play with a live Moto Droid for a 4 days... the only time I used the slide out keyboard was when I first setup the phone (it made me use it). After than, I never used it. It added weight and complexity that were unnecessary. Didn't buy the Droid for 2 reasons. Physical keyboard and weight I didn't need, and no real voice command via BT for making calls.

Expected price (2, Informative)

irp (260932) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597810)

In Denmark, an unlocked HTC Hero costs ~620 USD. (including the Danish 25% VAT).

Most people I know (myself included) buy phones unlocked (because my (current/prefered) phone company don't sell phones - but I like their simple "~10 USD/month for up to 1GB" data plan).

Using the "US to Danish price" conversion (multiply by 1.25, add some) it will cost around 670-700 USD in Denmark (of course payed in DKK).

The price does not surprise me. I am planning to replace my phone ½ year from now (then my current phone will have survived 2+ years). It will probably be an Android based, in that price range.

For comparison, in Denmark, an iPhone (unlocked 3GS/32GB) costs ~1100 USD.

GSM + Google (4, Funny)

ground.zero.612 (1563557) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597892)

Sweet! A decrypted protocol with an OS by a company that doesn't care about your privacy... Where do I sign up???

Re:GSM + Google (1)

RebootKid (712142) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597984)

Oh for mod points. Cracked me up

but will it (1)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597942)

...run Linux?

Imagine... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30598144)

...a Beowulf cluster of these

Only if it has Google Voice (1)

nikMIT21 (259284) | more than 4 years ago | (#30597958)

If Google gives a downloadable Google Voice app, I think a lot of people like me are going to rush to buy this phone. $530 + $50/month for 5GB worth of voice, sms, and web browsing is $1730 over two years. An iPhone is something like $200 + $120/month = $2400 for the same thing.

If they don't have the app, I'll continue my silent protest and stick with my crappy free phone and 2-year verizon contract. :(

Re:Only if it has Google Voice (2, Insightful)

DragonTHC (208439) | more than 4 years ago | (#30598012)

there's already a google voice app in the market. I think you're asking if it will use google voice over IP.

If it allows GV via voip, w/ 3g we might all jump at the chance.

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