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Apple Orders 10 Million Tablets?

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 4 years ago | from the pricepoint-better-be-right dept.

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Arvisp writes "According to a blog post by former Google China president Kai-Fu Lee, Apple plans to produce nearly 10 million tablets in the still-unannounced product's first year. If Lee's blog post is to be believed, Apple plans to sell nearly twice as many tablets as it did iPhones in the product's first year."

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221 comments

Sounds about right, but what about the network? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30644450)

They'll have enough units this time, but what network can handle a jump in traffic?

I really hope it's not AT&Uknowho.

Re:Sounds about right, but what about the network? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30644502)

It won't be a phone. So... what network can handle a jump of 10 million nodes? THE INTERNET. And that's all that really matters.

0 bars, less space than a Nomad, lame. (2, Funny)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644730)

So... what network can handle a jump of 10 million nodes? THE INTERNET.

And where your iPod Touch gets 0 bars, your iSlate will get 0 bars.

Re:0 bars, less space than a Nomad, lame. (1)

FooAtWFU (699187) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645274)

I'm waiting for the iSlate 3G.

Re:Sounds about right, but what about the network? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30644752)

It won't be a phone.

But it may very well have ubiquitous wireless connectivity, as the Kindle does, but presumably capable of far more. This is done, surprise, with the phone networks.

Re:Sounds about right, but what about the network? (1)

WCguru42 (1268530) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645026)

Simple, a cellular network card slot so that you can choose your carrier. That would be the best possible solution as I don't think you could hardwire a card in to work with any carrier (well, the technologies available but the carriers probably wouldn't play ball).

Re:Sounds about right, but what about the network? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30645070)

That works great in Europe, where you'd just need to have an accessible SIM card slot. Not so much in the US, where you have only two GSM carriers (AT&T and T-Mobile), both of which are basically shit.

There's a map for that, and it doesn't say CSIM (3, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645552)

Simple, a cellular network card slot so that you can choose your carrier.

In Apple's home country, the carriers with decent coverage (Verizon and Sprint) use the CDMA2000 stack instead of GSM. Like GSM/UMTS, CDMA2000 allows carriers to put the account info on a removable card [wikipedia.org] . But unlike GSM/UMTS, CDMA2000 doesn't require a removable CSIM, so the carriers just tie the account to the internal memory of the handset.

Re:Sounds about right, but what about the network? (2, Interesting)

HermMunster (972336) | more than 4 years ago | (#30646206)

A tablet is definitely NOT a phone and thus it has a much greater utility (or should have). The problem with Apple's philosophy WILL be that they will treat this like it is an iPhone. The tablet has to be not just a netbook without a keyboard, but it must also be an e-reader, a browser, a program launcher, a gaming device, and the ability to communicate via webcams, microphones, and it must also have GPS capabilities. It must also have a removable battery as well as the standard USB, wireless & wired network, and expansion such as SSD cards.

My point is that it must be a device with more utility than Apple generally gives to their hardware/software--they tend to limit what you can/should do with it.

I like Apple's products, but I can see that their philosophy of recent has been a wedge driven between themselves and the customer.

I was offered one of these in an e-mail today (5, Funny)

ciderVisor (1318765) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644476)

10 tablets for $15. Only available in blue.

Re:I was offered one of these in an e-mail today (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30644598)

10 tablets for $15. Only available in blue.

You might want to order them to help out when you are watching porn on your iSlate.

Re:I was offered one of these in an e-mail today (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30644688)

Oh heck no. You're constantly scared that thing would get pregnant... after all, every time it isLate...

What sort? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30644496)

V1agra ? Cialis?

I hear Tiger woods is looking for new sponsors...

Re:What sort? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30644872)

No, for those pills and more, that would be Rush Limbaugh or W. Bush.

Obligatory perspective. Rerun. (-1, Troll)

migla (1099771) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644510)

While one certainly can discuss Apple and/or Microsoft in terms of usability and market or impact on culture and such, using them are still about engaging in the sucking of satans cock, figuratively speaking.

(Last time this comment was modded troll. Let's see how it fares now.)

Re:Obligatory perspective. Rerun. (1)

migla (1099771) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645774)

Ok. I see it's 2 for 2. I think a rewording is in order.

Bulk discount (4, Insightful)

nacturation (646836) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644530)

I'm thinking Jobs asked "How much per unit if we're making 10 million of them?" Then after the manufacturer crunches the numbers and comes back with the figures, Jobs will offer to pay that per-unit cost but in increments of 10,000 units.

Re:Bulk discount (1)

qoncept (599709) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645106)

And then the manufacturer says, "Aw shucks, ya got me!"

I think it's pretty naive to think it went anything like that. And probably ridiculous to believe they'd sell anywhere near that, so my guess is this story is complete BS.

Re:Bulk discount (4, Insightful)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645312)

Change 10,000 to 100,000 and I wouldn't be shocked. He then states, "you want to be the manufacturer who gets this contract, because we will eventually order 10 million. And you don't want to do try and produce 10 million at once anyways. So give me the 10 million rate, and in you're in the door for 100,000 today."

The iPhone didn't sell well initially for a couple of reasons. Most individuals didn't think they needed smart phones. Most smart phone users didn't think the iPhone was a real smart phone. It took a while for people to realize the potential of the app store, and what the iPhone could do for them. The iPhone is also tied to one network.

The tablet could just be a plain wifi tablet with no cell phone support out of the box. You can always add a cellular modem, just like you do for your notebook today. If it isn't tied to a specific carrier, and they can launch it globally overnight (as opposed to fighting for different carrier deals in different countries) then they could easy trounce iPhone's early sales.

Apple has customers happily paying $2,900 for laptops. If they make a nice tablet for $999, I think people will eat it up.

Re:Bulk discount (1)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645662)

He then states, "you want to be the manufacturer who gets this contract, because we will eventually order 10 million. And you don't want to do try and produce 10 million at once anyways. So give me the 10 million rate, and in you're in the door for 100,000 today."

Someone should tell him that his grammar sucks.

Re:Bulk discount (2, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645882)

It took a while for people to realize the potential of the app store, and what the iPhone could do for them

I actually think it was more of "What are you talking about? Web apps are fine! We aren't making an SDK for the iPhone" moment from Steve Jobs and then he eventually realized the need for an app store. People knew it needed an app store from the start, but it wasn't until the 2.x firmware that they actually got it added.

What kind of tablets? (0, Flamebait)

number6x (626555) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644534)

Ibuprofin? meclozine? placebo? They'll be happy if they sell like iPods, but they will have an awful big headache if they are lame like the 'air'-book.

Naysayer (3, Interesting)

iamapizza (1312801) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644542)

I know I'm going to sound like a naysayer, so, hey, I may as well nay say.

Google's probably going for a tablet as well [theregister.co.uk] , so 2010 will likely be the year of the tablet - in the form of iphones and iclones, with much larger screens, the next must-have at the coffee shops. But it's going to fall flat on its face. It's too close to netbooks, but not as useful as a netbook.

Nay, I say, nay

How many times do I need to say this (3, Insightful)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644710)

iSlates aren't meant to compete with netbooks, they are meant to compete with eBook readers (while in addition offering all the functionality of an iPhone or iTouch). Think color eBook reader/video viewer along with a google maps implementation and accelerometers so you can play games just by tilting it, and you see it has gaming functionality that netbooks don't and large screen capability that smartphones don't. (Much as I love my Android phone, it is harder than heck to read things on.)

Re:How many times do I need to say this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30644798)

So they're supposed to compete with eBook readers and PDAs? They're supposed to simultaneously compete with a niche market and a size-conscious market by providing a device that doesn't meet the needs of either? Sorry, I'm not seeing it. I add my own "nay".

Re:How many times do I need to say this (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644890)

PDAs are a vanishing market now that equivalent functionality it available in a smartphone. I don't see why an iSlate couldn't provide all the same functionality of an eBook reader, with the exception that color touchscreen probably means shorter battery life -- but then, eBook readers suck for watching videos (as do cell phones).

Re:How many times do I need to say this (2, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#30646014)

Unless its E-ink its going to be a pain on the eyes for reading. Ever tried reading a book on an LCD? The contrast just isn't there to not give you eyestrain.

Re:How many times do I need to say this (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30646138)

The contrast just isn't there on the Sony eBook reader either. Haven't seen the Kindle or Nook in person yet, does anybody have personal experience with their readability?

Re:How many times do I need to say this (2, Insightful)

lowrydr310 (830514) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644836)

iSlates aren't meant to compete with netbooks, they are meant to compete with eBook readers (while in addition offering all the functionality of an iPhone or iTouch).

Pardon my ignorance as I'm new to the Apple rumor mill, but it is my understanding that any iSlate or Apple-branded tablet device is just a rumor. If that is the case, then how can anyone know what this mysterious and unannounced device is supposed to compete with?

Re:How many times do I need to say this (1)

imamac (1083405) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645006)

Yes...you certainly are new to the Apple Rumor Mill. You you had any real experience in the ARM you would know that question is irrelevant.

Re:How many times do I need to say this (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645010)

You ARE new around here, aren't you? This is the "Apple rumor mill", where we all pull "facts" out of our collective asses based on wild speculation and conjecture... welcome to the club, you'll catch on in due time!

Re:How many times do I need to say this (5, Informative)

nine-times (778537) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645030)

Obligatory: http://www.misterbg.org/AppleProductCycle/ [misterbg.org]

It explains everything you need to know about the Apple rumor mill.

Re:How many times do I need to say this (2, Insightful)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645536)

I don't matter what it's for. The fact that Apple made it (or MAY make it in this case) means that thousands of fanboys all over the net are scrambling and grasping at straws to explain just why this is the best way to do things.

I swear if Apple reintroduced punch cards there would be people heralding it as the UI method of the future and assuring you that if you don't like them then you're just short sighted and stuck in the past.

Re:How many times do I need to say this (1)

Aeros (668253) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645768)

I bet even if they put out the 'iPetRock' they would make a buttload.

Re:How many times do I need to say this (1)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645826)

It's supposed to compete with the 100s of 7 and 10" netbook sized tablets that will be coming on the market here in the next 3-8 months by other manufacturers that have already been announced to some degree. Nobody will confirm exact specifics until apple announces theirs, since they want to be able to buy the B and C quality parts at a discount that don't pass the test to be included in the apple tablet. Once they have the parts, they buy time in the production schedule of factories set up on contract for overflow production of the iTablet, so they don't have to pay full price for tooling costs. It's official, tablets are coming on the market; the main thing is that nobody knows what you'll use them for, or if anyone will buy them.

Re:Naysayer (4, Insightful)

Serious Callers Only (1022605) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644722)

In answer to you naysayers, I have only this to say:

Re:Naysayer (1)

asv108 (141455) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645688)

If I had mod points, I would mod this up. As much as I dislike Apple, you can't ignore the significance of them entering a new market.

Re:Naysayer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30644736)

The main usability problem is that Google and Apple aren't providing tablets that'll be generally useful. On the contrary, they'll be highly-focused, and only run applications created by or approved by Google and Apple.

We already know that Google is taking a web-based approach. If you've used the Chromium OS builds that are available now, you'll know how that's a huge fucking mistake. Any web-based offerings beyond email have proven to be complete shit. Toss in the "Cloud", and we run into all sorts of privacy and data control issues. It's just not a useful platform.

Apple takes an approach closer to that of traditional desktop applications. But as the iPhone has shown, it's so goddamn locked down that independent application developers have a difficult time getting anything published and widely available.

Frankly, I hope that neither platform succeeds. They're both shitty.

Re:Naysayer (1)

samkass (174571) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644792)

Any gamer who's ever sat around a table playing games who can't imagine the use of a reasonably-sided, flat, touch-sensitive inexpensive networked computer with an easy-to-use SDK isn't imaginative enough. Slashdot, if anywhere, should be all over this. I would expect this product to be like the introduction of Magic: The Gathering to the gaming community.

Re:Naysayer (2, Funny)

binarylarry (1338699) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644838)

Poor Bill Gates is going to be crying about how they invented this stuff first.

The funny part is they probably did.

Re:Naysayer (1)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644970)

It's too close to netbooks, but not as useful as a netbook.

Alternatively, they are large eBook readers that trade the better all-condition and long-term reading ease of electronic ink with for additional functionality and color display.

Not sure they'll succeed even so -- there's a whole of different applications in the mobile space, and getting the right combination of features to hit the sweet spots is going to be an area where there is a lot of trial and error in the next few years.

Re:Naysayer (2, Funny)

FlyingBishop (1293238) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645012)

Apple's tablet will be running Chrome OS.

Jobs said that you will be "very surprised" with how you interact with the tablet. Chrome OS is the only thing that could possibly surprise me.

Well, that or mind control, but Apple products can't have electrodes.

no way: scarcity increases demand (4, Insightful)

je ne sais quoi (987177) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644548)

My favorite part of TFA:

The iSlate is sort of a big iPod, but not really. It performs a lot of notebook-like functions, but it's not really a notebook either.

And the author knows this how? How do we know it will be a "big iPod", it could be completely different for all we know because nobody has seen it who is allowed to talk about it. Regardless, of what it actually does, the idea that Apple will predict that it will sell 10 million tablets in the first year is hooey. If anything, I would guess they will do the opposite and order too few units in order to increase the demand for the product by creating scarcity. Just ask the Nintendo when the Wii came out or whoever made tickle me elmo how this works...

Re:no way: scarcity increases demand (1)

Viewsonic (584922) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645122)

I think they are assuming the OS will be the same that is on the current Touches. That it wont be using an "open" OSX install, it will be somewhat closed and using an Apple Store like the Touch.

Until someone jailbreaks it, that is.

Re:no way: scarcity increases demand (2, Insightful)

mosb1000 (710161) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645456)

Manufacturers like to hype up, or pretend to have shortages but it is very bad to actually have one because you lose sales. It's worse for them to have a surplus, though, because it costs them money. That's why manufacturers tend to be conservative then they are doing their initial production runs. The goal is to get as close as possible to the actual demand, without exceeding it. This is especially true with microelectronics where waiting a year to move a product could render it obsolete and therefore worthless.

Re:no way: scarcity increases demand (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30645922)

Damn ship is going to sink or be delayed in the Suez canal!

Re:no way: scarcity increases demand (2, Insightful)

berwiki (989827) | more than 4 years ago | (#30646038)

Yea, and it backfired for Nintendo. They may be on top, but they could be standing taller.

The hype that sold a lot of Wii's was the motion feedback. I waited outside a now defunct Circuit City twice in the early mornings when the Wii first came out but was unable to secure a device. Now, how many years later, I stopped caring. I saw a few and wasnt overly impressed with the graphics or performance of the motion-sensing.

Too much scarcity will derail thousands of impulse buyers.

Why Blogs Don't Matter (4, Insightful)

Slash.Poop (1088395) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644550)

Come on now people. This is obviously bogus. Apple would be sitting on 5 million plus (low estimate) tablets when the technology changes in 6-12 months. No way they are ordering 10 million.

Re:Why Blogs Don't Matter (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30646066)

If you look at all the wrong speculation surrounding the iPhone release, salt grains should be all over everything iTablet. Maybe they ordered 10 million grains of salt for all the rumors.
     

Re:Why Blogs Don't Matter (2, Interesting)

fermion (181285) | more than 4 years ago | (#30646134)

They ordered 10 million. This does not mean that they will take delivery. We might recall that Apple allegedly orders part to tie up the supply chain for other companies, and then only accepts what it actually needs to meet production [tgdaily.com] . This makes a lot of sense as they can guarantee a consistent and compatible product until the next rev. One big problem I have with other vendors is it can be hard to figure out what drivers are needed for which models, as even within a model they may use several different products.

In any case, what we can say is that Apple is planning to sell up to 10 million of this initial run, which will presumably be manufactured over the calendar year 2010, if they are going to be available for quantity shipments in March.

If it follows the formula for the iPhone and iPod, there will probably be some scarcity through summer as significant defects will be found and corrected. In late summer, in time for school, there will be like a minor revision and then sales will pick up considerable. I can see them selling a couple million by mid summer, then 3 million or so for back to school, and the rest for christmas.

I will have to see the product to decide when to buy it. If it is a small screen, 7", for under $500, it might be nice to have it in the near term. If it is much more expensive, which would be likely for 10" model, then it would worth waiting for the version that will actually work.

10 million tablets you say? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30644554)

Hopefully Steve will down 'em all at once and give the fanbois something to cry about.

Or better yet, it'll start another pathetic trend with the 'hip' crowd all following his lead as per usual.

Ten million? (2, Funny)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644562)

Is that the American "million" or the British "million"?

I kid, I kid... although Apple does seem to think big these days.

Re:Ten million? (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644748)

Uh, it's billion, not million, that is interpreted differently by our friends across the pond.

Re:Ten million? (1)

ickoonite (639305) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645874)

Or was interpreted differently. 1,000,000,000-as-billion is pretty much standard here now, at least in this limey's experience. Ordinarily I would lament such a happening, but the world is better served by a consistent definition of "billion".

Now if only you guys could sort your stupid date format out, we'd be set...

The show must go on (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30644568)

They are aiming to hit the 20 million mark as for the iPhone, so 10 million is somewhat reasonable order, but a huge bet also. I am happy to observe the unfolding story and possible drama here..

Re:The show must go on (1)

Aeros (668253) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645840)

well again that is through 3 versions of the iphone

drive down cost (1)

GrMunky (1184115) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644578)

With the strong following that Apple has for its product lines and the underserved tablet market for personal computing i dont see this as unreasonable. provided they got the bugs out before investing in the hardware. a mass order will help Apple secure a better cost and that should bring about a better retail for the consumer.

Re:drive down cost (4, Insightful)

Reason58 (775044) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644642)

With the strong following that Apple has for its product lines and the underserved tablet market for personal computing i dont see this as unreasonable. provided they got the bugs out before investing in the hardware. a mass order will help Apple secure a better cost and that should bring about a better retail for the consumer.

As someone who has used and supported hundreds of tablets and convertibles, let me assure you the "tablet market" is right where it should be. Tablets require the user to give up a large amount of functionality in the form of a physical keyboard and mouse, and the return for this is minimal and extremely niche. While I do not doubt that Apple could do well selling these on brand alone, tablets are simply not a practical replacement for the standard notebook or desktop.

Re:drive down cost (1)

GrMunky (1184115) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644852)

Ive had an HP TC1100 for a couple years now and loved it. I find a good tablet to easily be a replacement for a netbook. The keyboard and Mouse are replaced with a touch screen and onscreen keyboard. The problem with the Tablet market as it exists right now is that new Tablet PCs are still a bit expensive and the software availabilty for touch screen is slow in being ported. Competition from Apple will help bring maturity to a Market that till now has only been used in business/commercial settings. I agree that tablets are not a practical replacement for a standard notebook or desktop, but they make a good replacement for a netbook.

Not a big fan of the tablet (3, Interesting)

lowrydr310 (830514) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645054)

I have a modern HP tablet (tx2500 series) that a friend convinced me to buy (got it for a great price). After almost a year of owning it, I still fail to recognize where the tablet functionality is really beneficial. I can type much faster than it can accurately recognize my handwriting, and I haven't found any applications that are truly useful in tablet mode. Sure I have some gimmicky graphics programs that work great and they're fun to show off, but overall it just doesn't do anything special. I think I'd be better off owning both a 15" laptop and a 10" netbook instead of a tablet that's right about in the middle.

Re:Not a big fan of the tablet (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645512)

I can type much faster than it can accurately recognize my handwriting

Yeah, the thing is that even though computers are probably getting better at recognizing handwriting, most of us are getting much worse at handwriting too. For me at least, trying to handwrite something neatly enough that another person could read it is a relatively slow and painful process when compared to typing. I suspect that a lot of the fascination with handwriting recognition and speech recognition originated in a time where people were much less comfortable typing than we are now.

I can imagine some real uses for a stylus/tablet setup, but I don't think they'll be an easier/quicker text input method than a keyboard.

Re:drive down cost (1)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645296)

Ive had an HP TC1100 for a couple years now and loved it. I find a good tablet to easily be a replacement for a netbook.....
I agree that tablets are not a practical replacement for a standard notebook or desktop, but they make a good replacement for a netbook.

So, Apple is going to make a product that competes with netbooks that sells in the $1000 range? And some people think they can sell somewhere around 10 million of them in the first year? I want some of what those people are smoking.

Re:drive down cost (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30645978)

Some might prefer what you are smoking...Have you not seen that the masses are not logical? E.g. One company in a sector has bad news...most stocks in that sector drop., Prices of homes start to rise...people start paying $200, $300, $400 dollars a sqft for something was $75/sqft just a year or so before and believe that prices will continue to rise indefinitely. People pay more for certain cars made in a certain country that typically have a higher rate of parts failures and only 3 year 36,000m warranties instead of other countries lower rates of parts failures, and 5y/60,000m warranties, ...

Re:drive down cost (1)

Knara (9377) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644932)

Indeed. Even in the niche market I'm in for them (digital art), if it doesn't have a Wacom digitizer sitting between me and the screen (i.e. it's essentially a cintiq with onboard computer) I have no use for it. I'm not alone in that particular requirement, either.

Re:drive down cost (1)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645034)

Oh yes, I've looked around for a decent affordable tablet which is basically "a Cintiq with onboard computer" but most tablets I've found have either had an extremely bad monitor, horrible digitizer or they somehow charge Vaio/MBP prices for a very moderately powered tablet with a Graphire-era quality digitizer and an "ok" monitor.

I'm still hoping for Apple or someone else to come up with a good stylus-compatible tablet with a good monitor that doesn't have "early adopter pricing" throughout its lifecycle...

/Mikael

Re:drive down cost (1)

Knara (9377) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645640)

Have you checked out http://www.tabletpcreview.com/ [tabletpcreview.com] ?

Re:drive down cost (1)

e4g4 (533831) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644948)

I'm betting the iSlate - or whatever the hell it's going to be called, is aimed squarely at the netbook market, with only a sideways glance at the "tablet" market.

Re:drive down cost (1)

NightWatcherBBS (1646035) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645252)

We agree. If tablets were going to work they would have done so with the QBE and Fujitsu line. I seriously doubt Apple is thinking about cost reductions, just not their style. On the other hand, tablets can be great. My Fujitsu T series gives the power of a laptop with the convenience of a tablet when necessary, what more can you ask for when portable? If it was thin and light enough and had multi point touch screen, it might be a winner for tech geeks.

Steve Jobs's ultimate vision (-1, Troll)

alen (225700) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644580)

a "computer" where you can run only applications personally approved by Him. if you jailbreak this baby then he sends the Apple stormtroopers to shoot you. the iphone dev team will be

i can see this for medical and some other professions, but who is going to pay all this money to read magazines and newspapers if you believe the rumors of content deals being done? only reason people paid for physical news media is that it was cheap. the ads sustained the business model. the elite print media gave up the advertising market to Google, AdMob and others and are now thinking people will pay to read their digital rags. idiots should have bought out some of the ad companies. even now the online versions of print magazines use other ad networks for ads.

the kindle is a success because i can read the news for free online, not books.

Re:Steve Jobs's ultimate vision (1)

kshade (914666) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644812)

Like this [youtube.com] ?

The Apple Product Cycle (4, Interesting)

Foggiano (722250) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644620)

So we're at the first step in the Apple Product Cycle [misterbg.org] ? It's nice to see we're right on track.

As an aside, I think it makes lots of sense for Apple to produce a tablet product, but I can't imagine them actually producing 10,000,000 of these things for launch.
First, it's a ridiculously high number, far exceeding the number of iPhones sold in a year and coming close to the number of all types of iPods combined.
Second, I doubt Apple would ever allow any of their new products to be overproduced. Artificial scarcity only adds to the perceived desirability of Apple products, driving the hype engine even more.

Re:The Apple Product Cycle (2, Funny)

AndrewNeo (979708) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644832)

Second, I doubt Apple would ever allow any of their new products to be overproduced.

Phew, for a second there I misread that as "I doubt Apple would ever allow any of their new products to be overpriced"! Had to read it again.

They have sold many more than that (2, Informative)

MikeMo (521697) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645196)

Dude, they sold 10 million iPhones in the first full year of sales. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IPhone_sales_per_quarter_simple.svg [wikipedia.org] As for iPods, the total number sold is over a quarter billion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ipod_sales_per_quarter.svg [wikipedia.org]

Re:They have sold many more than that (1)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 4 years ago | (#30646170)

Way to misread the graph.

Total number of first generation iPhones sold: 6.124 million

Number of iPhone 3G units sold in the first quarter alone: 6.89 million

So the second generation device outsold the first generation device in a single quarter, and now you think Apple is going all-out on a first generation device? Just to point out, the first-generation iPod solid far less than 500,000 units total. We're talking about first-generation products here, not the entire life cycle of the product. No manufacturer places orders for several generations before even announcing the first one. If Apple had a guaranteed production order of 10 million units of a device before they even announced the device to the public, they would literally be staking the future of their entire company on that one device. Many products fail to find a market, you don't want to be sitting in front of a warehouse with 10 million units of things that no one wants.

Re:The Apple Product Cycle (1)

TheUser0x58 (733947) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645198)

Huh? According to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] , 21 million iPhones had been sold as of Q2 2009. The iPhone was released in Q3 2007. 21 million / 2 years > 10 million/year...

Re:The Apple Product Cycle (1)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 4 years ago | (#30646196)

That represents 10 quarters of sales (30 months), or an average of 700k per month, or 8.4 million per year.

Where's my interface? (2, Interesting)

copponex (13876) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644692)

Apple is quickly converging it's products into single slabs of screen and processing power. I don't think the internet infrastructure will be different in 2020, but I do think you'll simply have a choice of screen sizes and the option to attach a laptop-style bottom case with extra horsepower or stick with the touchscreen top.

Maybe Apple will pull a coup this time around and offer a large tablet interface that's easily dockable. I know for many people the option to snag their interface and take it to a meeting down the hall or at the coffee shop would be pretty valuable. Stick a camera on the back as well as the front of it and you've really got something that could save time for a wide array of industries.

Apple will convince the public that they need it, a market will be created, and I just have to wait a few months to pick up the copycat product at half the cost.

Re:Where's my interface? (1)

nate_in_ME (1281156) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645130)

Maybe Apple will pull a coup this time around and offer a large tablet interface that's easily dockable. I know for many people the option to snag their interface and take it to a meeting down the hall or at the coffee shop would be pretty valuable

The first thing that came to mind when I read this was interfaces like you see in Minority Report or Avatar where you can dock a smaller display(roughly the size of your average tablet) into your main display and actually drag information to the tablet display. You can then undock the tablet and continue working with whatever data you moved to the tablet display. I could see where something like this would have its uses.

Re:Where's my interface? (1)

rickb928 (945187) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645742)

You mean as in the Neuromancer?

Re:Where's my interface? (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645382)

Maybe Apple will pull a coup this time around and offer a large tablet interface that's easily dockable.

I don't see why nobody's making tablets, whether large or small, with USB or wifi ports that you can plug keyboards into, turning them into full fledged computers.

Re:Where's my interface? (1)

SoupIsGoodFood_42 (521389) | more than 4 years ago | (#30646142)

Because the Apple's tablet won't be a fully fledged computer. It won't run Mac OS X. Not without some hacking, at least. And if a real keyboard and decent range of expansion ports are what's required, then that's what a laptop is for.

Re:Where's my interface? (3, Interesting)

nine-times (778537) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645684)

Maybe Apple will pull a coup this time around and offer a large tablet interface that's easily dockable.

Maybe making use of something like this patent [gizmodo.com] ?

I've thought for a while that it could be pretty neat to have something like an iPhone/PDA with a stripped down portable interface, but when linked to a dock, it becomes a fully capable desktop machine.

Re:Where's my interface? (1)

rickb928 (945187) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645766)

Just give it Bluetooth and allow input method.

A keyboard, mouse, and headset. Not difficult.

But such a device would cut into iMac sales, so expect it to be a desktop device that goes in the crook of your arm when you're tired of the keyboard.

And give it wireless charging. This you can charge real money for.

And somehow I don't think OS X will be running on Atom processors in this future.

If I had a nickel... (1)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644700)

for every BS Apple product rumor, I could probably afford the new Apple iTablet when it finally comes out in 2025.

For the record I own a MacBook Pro, and a Mac Mini.
Not to mention my HackBook Mini. (HP mini 1116 running Snow Leopard.)

Re:If I had a nickel... (1)

DrXym (126579) | more than 4 years ago | (#30646212)

I think there will be a tablet device but I question who is meant to buy it.

Apple rumor double-speak (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644724)

I thought earlier in a different article we were told that the iPhone was the Apple tablet/netbook. Now they are doing a tablet as well? At some point they'll just end up picking off their own product sales and they will become their own worst enemy, as even the most ardent MacFanBois(TM) only want so many Apple products...

Re:Apple rumor double-speak (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645120)

I think as soon as it's too big to fit comfortably in your pocket, it's no longer competing with the iPhone or iPod. If the tablet cannibalizes any of Apple's sales, it will probably be the Macbook Air. The Macbook Air is sort of the closest Apple has right now to a netbook/ultraportable.

But many of the rumors suggest that this device will be intended to compete more with the Kindle or Nook than with netbooks. But with Apple, there's often LOTS of random speculation, so you don't really know until something is announced.

Reading comprehension (4, Interesting)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644750)

The author of the article has a hard time believing that Apple ordered 10 million tablets this year. While his logic is sound regarding the numbers, the author isn't quoting Apple. The author's source for this rumor is an ex-Google employee. And this employee is not saying Apple "ordered" 10 million only that Apple "plans to produce" 10 million. There's a huge difference between the two. Like any company building a new product, Apple has ordered X amount while letting their suppliers know that they may want up to Y amount. If the product sells well, Apple will increase their order. If it doesn't Apple will not. Also the Y amount may be an unreachable goal. Sometimes when negotiating contracts, some suppliers are not interested unless you are ordering a large amount. Everyone knows that goal isn't likely but it makes everything look good.

They might just sell (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644786)

Let's just hope the iSlate is a lot easier to clean then our current keyboard are... uh, cause I tend to spill things on my keyboard... uh, like soda! Yeah, that's the ticket, soda! It has nothing to do with using the computer to view porn, honest!

Re:They might just sell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30645104)

You know, when Leela tells Fry he should stop his stories one sentence earlier? Yah, um okay.

Re:They might just sell (1)

dan828 (753380) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645140)

I don't know if you've noticed, but that stuff leaves streaks if you don't clean it right away.

iSlate a failure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30644868)

Fails to meet (Google's) sales projections.

not an unreasonable number (1)

ravenspear (756059) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644870)

If Apple gets the tablet right and it sees high demand for the product, I don't see 10 million being an unreachable goal. The iPhone has a significant impediment to sales that a regular computer doesn't have, you have to sign up for a 2 year phone contract that costs over $2000.

Re:not an unreasonable number (1)

zegota (1105649) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645074)

I guarantee this iSlate will cost more than $2000.

Re:not an unreasonable number (1)

ravenspear (756059) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645398)

Maybe but price is not the only consideration in a 2 year phone contract. Lots of people may not want ATT, lots of people might have an existing contract already.

Even though the price is higher, being a device unencumbered from long term commitments will be an advantage in comparing sales to the iPhone.

Amusing tag: "ipad" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30644926)

Slightly off topic comment: I used to live in the Great Lakes region. The locals there, or rather, most people from any point between Chicago and Syracuse, particpate in what is known as the "Northern Cities Vowel Shift". [wikipedia.org]

So, when I see the tag "ipad" on this story, I have to say, I immediately think this is a Great Lakes person trying to say "iPod". Brilliant. And also quite painful to listen to.

Apple orders 10 million tablets? (0)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644930)

So, Apple fan boyz are switching from kool-aid to tablets, then? Note to self: the cliche will no longer be "they've drank the kool-aid", but rather "they've swallowed the tablets!"

Apple ___ set to revolutionise electronics (4, Funny)

David Gerard (12369) | more than 4 years ago | (#30644998)

ONE INFINITE LOOP, Here We Go Again, Sunday (NNGadget) — Apple is reportedly close to launching its long-rumored ____. It could be Apple’s latest billion-dollar jackpot.

Analyst speculation says the ___ will be launched in September and be in the shops by Christmas. A new mention of the ___ crops up on Twitter around every eight minutes.

The ___ is rumoured to be any size and scale between the iPod Shuffle and the Macintosh IIfx. Some have described the ___ as a “___-killer.” Analyst speculation suggests the ___ will use a fantastic new interface. “It will be a whole new paradigm,” said Apple blogger Leander Kahney.

Expectations flared when technology research analysts noted that Taiwanese suppliers had received orders from an unknown buyer for a particular obscure component to be filled by the end of the year. “The only possible conclusion is that Apple will launch a ___ by early next year,” said Kahney. “They’ve been working on the ___ for the past six years. People expect it to be the ultimate Apple surprise. This thing will knock people’s socks off.”

Apple has refused to comment on the ___ speculation. But Tim Cook, its chief operating officer, recently hinted that the company was working on something “very innovative.” Steve Jobs is thought to have been personally involved in the development of the ___ over the past two years.

Daniel Eran Dilger noted on roughlydrafted.com that the ___ would need to be fueled on pain, angst, the destruction of the ecology, the torture of kittens and the tears of widows and orphans, but put together a devastatingly convincing and very lengthy explanation as to why Apple’s actions were the only humanly acceptable option for the consumer, the technology industry and the future of humanity, and that Jobs’ Nobel Peace Prize was ridiculously overdue. And that all problems were clearly Microsoft’s fault.

Illustration: The generic Apple product [newstechnica.com] . Fits everyone!

Heard of JIT? (Just-In-Time) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30645192)

Who the heck would order 10 million (obsolete in 3 months) pieces of anything?

Kai-Fu Lee? Quelle Folie...

"If you believe everything you read; Better not read."
{Chinese Proverb}

A Tablet isn't a PC replacement, it's an add-on. (4, Interesting)

Jason Pollock (45537) | more than 4 years ago | (#30645504)

As we're seeing with the Kindle, and the iPhone, many people can find uses for additional computers in our lives. I can definitely see a use for a tablet device sitting on my coffee table, waiting to be used by anyone walking in as both a media selector (iTunes to an AirPort Express/Apple TV), or as a general device to answer "Who is in that movie?", "What's on tomorrow", "You're talking BS" questions. I already use my iPhone for that, this would just be a general device, whereas the iPhone is "personal".

Add to that the ability to use it as a general book reader, and you've got a winner.

Tablets aren't laptop replacements, they are secondary displays for the living room, secondary devices that enhance your ability to use the compute power you _already_ have in your house.

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