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926 comments

90 Grams? Who cares? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30662682)

My farts are more explosive than 90 grams of semtex

Seriously? (4, Insightful)

NonSequor (230139) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662696)

What the crap, man?

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Re:Seriously? (4, Insightful)

komisar (449368) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662920)

How about we repeat the exercise daily at randomly chosen airports around the globe?

Screeners who miss the contraband (or allow a passenger to exit through an entry way) would be stripped of badges and ids, fired on the spot and escorted outside the airport.

Passengers originating at or transiting through airports with a poor screening record would be denied entry to the US.

Seriously.

Re:Seriously? (5, Insightful)

Mad Merlin (837387) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663016)

How about the US just flat out denies all air travel to, from and/or through the US. It'd be far less inconvenient for everyone involved.

Re:Seriously? (5, Insightful)

Schemat1c (464768) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663120)

How about we realize that we are far more likely to be killed by our car or the food we eat then by terrorists?

How about we quit giving away all of our hard won freedoms like a bunch of scared pussies?

Re:Seriously? (4, Insightful)

dbIII (701233) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662968)

I really don't userstand why they didn't use harmless bits of plastic the right size made to smell like explosives by rubbing against it or something. I work with people that do work with explosives (seismic surveys) and they set off airport detectors with their boots or other work clothing at times.

Re:Seriously? (2, Informative)

lendacon (1714178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663138)

It was a bomb-sniffing dog test, that's why the used realy explosives.

Re:Seriously? (4, Insightful)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662970)

Yes.. testing of security systems.. madness.

Re:Seriously? (5, Insightful)

petermgreen (876956) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663118)

Using innocent and unsuspecting members of the public to do it though seems like a pretty fucked up thing to be doing and I hope whoevers idea this was gets punished appropriately.

If you are a goverment want to do a test of airport security systems then fine but use someone who has agreed to do it, agree it with the governments of target countries first and give that person ID so that they can prove that they are doing an official test.

Re:Seriously? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30663264)

And also when they do get proper equipment in, various airports will have already been contaminated.
Kind of like how all US money (100 dollar bills anyway) has traces of cocaine in it.

Re:Seriously? (3, Funny)

williamhb (758070) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663048)

I'm not that surprised it got through. About 15 years ago a friend's brother inadvertently traveled through at least six airports with a WW2 grenade casing (explosive core removed) in his luggage, courtesy of one of his drunk friends hiding it in there as a joke. He only found it when he unpacked after getting back home from his travels. Sure there were no explosives so it wouldn't set of a chemical detector, but you'd have thought the X-Ray operators might have raised their eyebrows at something clearly grenade-shaped..

Re:Seriously? (1)

nneonneo (911150) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663208)

Or, they might have seen the grenade, searched his luggage, swabbed it for explosives and found it was harmless. Of course, this assumes that the luggage was checked baggage and not carry-on, because your friend would probably have noticed if they searched his carry-on bag at airport security.

Re:Seriously? (2, Funny)

IronChef (164482) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663148)

Seriously, no "... airports bomb YOU" jokes yet. WTF?

Note to self: (1)

TheSpoom (715771) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663192)

Never travel to Slovakia.

Re:Seriously? (2, Interesting)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663220)

So do they also do this with drugs? You hear about it all the time.

WTF?! (3, Insightful)

wisesifu (1358043) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662700)

WTF?!

Re:WTF?! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30662898)

Sums it up really.

Re:WTF?! (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30662934)

Well, I'd say that deserves a +5, insightful. What say you, knee-jerk moderators?

...apologize unreservedly (5, Funny)

Art Popp (29075) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662706)

To the Slovakian Minister of the Interior,

        I wish to express profound regret on the part of the US for failing to categorize and properly label DVDs obviously sold to your country. Odd as it may seem, the "Police Academy" video series was never intended as instructional.

        Sincerest apologies,

        I. M. Spending
        President of Physics

More proof (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30662712)

9/11 was engineered by the authorities!

Re:More proof (4, Insightful)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662950)

Pshaw, if it was engineered it was "engineered by incompetence" much like any other massively bloated software development effort....

The only conspiracy in 9/11 besides the Islamic Radical one to fly buildings into planes was a "Conspiracy of Incompetence" amongst the many federal agencies that could have done something to prevent it. Most all the hijackers wre here on EXPIRED VISAS. Where the hell was ICE on enforcing this? Instead of creating the "Department of Homeland Insecurity" they should have fired and removed the pensions of those who ignored the warnings of those below them and promote those who were warning their superiors to the jobs of those fired. Fire the incompetent boobs that let it happen and blacklist them from ever getting another government job again in their lives.

After 9/11 there should have been several hundred people in the CIA and FBI walking out of the government buildinds with their possessions in boxes and their resumes on monster.

Re:More proof (5, Insightful)

Sechr Nibw (1278786) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663070)

The only conspiracy in 9/11 .... here on EXPIRED VISAS. Where the hell was ICE on enforcing this?

ICE? Seriously? Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, that was formed in March of 2003? Yeah, they f'd up big by not preventing 9/11 in...2001.

No intelligence service could be this stupid alone (5, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662716)

They must have had CIA assistance.

Re:No intelligence service could be this stupid al (1)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662966)

You forgot the FBI, ICE and the DHS....

What they do in Russia is worse.... (0, Troll)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662732)

In Slovakia they only plant explosives in your luggage, In Russia they plant the explosives inside of YOU.

Re:What they do in Russia is worse.... (1, Funny)

Dr. Spork (142693) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662928)

No, in Soviet Russia the explosives plant you.

Send the police to jail (3, Insightful)

mbone (558574) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662742)

Seriously. This could get someone killed. Someone needs to be punished for this.

(Assuming, of course, that this report is true.)

Re:Send the police to jail (1)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662774)

This could get someone killed.

Oh really?

How do you figure?

Re:Send the police to jail (5, Insightful)

NewbieProgrammerMan (558327) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662838)

Really? In the shoot-first-ask-questions-later world of "fighting terrorism," you ask how planting explosives on somebody in an airport without their knowledge could get them killed?

Re:Send the police to jail (2, Insightful)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663034)

You know what would be awesome? If that happened.

Obviously for the victim or his family it would be terrible, but once the scandal broke that the explosives had been planted on him by operatives there would no longer be any armed thugs in airports around the world, and we'd all be treated with a little more respect. Here's hoping that Slovakia's little experiment has a similar effect.

Re:Send the police to jail (4, Insightful)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662854)

When someone gets guns pointed at them for carrying "bomb laden" luggage the person who thinks his luggage is clean stands there in disbelief as they demand he gets on the floor and he is so stunned that he doesn't go down and gets mowed down on concourse B by over eager TSA agents....

Re:Send the police to jail (5, Informative)

cowboy76Spain (815442) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663258)

Hey, if the TSA guys tell him to get in the floor (and don't shoot it while in the floor) then they are not too bad... in the UK it could have been way worse. Just out of my memory:

No punishment for anyone, all of the people responsible for these killings (and intents of cover-ups) still work for the Government.

Nothing like a little perspective, don't you think?

Re:Send the police to jail (3, Insightful)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662856)

Trigger happy SWAT at the other end combined with a confused and scared luggage owner.

Re:Send the police to jail (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30662906)

^^^^ This.

Slovaks told the Irish police about the explosives in the man's luggage. Slovaks didn't tell the Irish how it got there until after the Irish had raided the man's apartment and recovered the explosives.

Re:Send the police to jail (4, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662792)

Here in the USA, only the TSA may try to test TSA security. Some reporters tried shortly after the agency was established, and they were all told their reports couldn't air.

Re:Send the police to jail (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30662902)

Any citation for your claim? (Sorry to sound like Wiki.)

Re:Send the police to jail (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30662910)

I suspect that's not so.

Re:Send the police to jail (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30662962)

It's in the TSA's best interest to let the occasional crazy nigger [bayimg.com] through.

Re:Send the police to jail (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662992)

So? You just keep a copy hidden from them, and air it anyway. What will they do when it already went on national television? Jail you, and draw the whole media upon them, until they are forced to release you? You could even send it in anonymously, stating that you are a TSA employee who got hold of the seized material and wanted the world to see it.

Re:Send the police to jail (1)

TheSpoom (715771) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663224)

Anonymity would be the only real way to do that, and that's not even guaranteed. You air it against TSA prohibition, and suddenly the world will be seeing a lot less of you.

I believe they call that "treason".

Re:Send the police to jail (1)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663190)

Here in the USA, only the TSA may try to test TSA security. Some reporters tried shortly after the agency was established, and they were all told their reports couldn't air.

If Security is insecure about the news reporting on their lack of security, then they shouldn't be working in security; they should be working in insecurity.

Re:Send the police to jail (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663066)

My thoughts exactly. The police involved should be prosecuted under the same draconian anti-terrorism laws that would be used against anyone else who dared to pull such a stunt.

So when's the invasion? (1)

MrMista_B (891430) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662744)

Even the Taliban was not so sophisticated in their attack.

Re:So when's the invasion? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30663014)

No, but AQ will be. They gained time for the last 8 years, and are getting increasingly sophisticated. Even now, I am sure that we will hear of explosives being insert into the anus and then taken out on the aircraft.

What the...? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30662750)

First post was what the crap, my exact thought was what the f _ _ _? WTF? W? T? F? Holy F? F me? Ok, I'm sorry, but if I were one of the people, I would be FREAKING out, like "I REALLY REALLY REALLY have NO, NO NO NO NO NO NO F _ _ _ ing CLUE where that came from" as I jump up and down. Holy Crap F. F.

This is great, next time someone gets caught with "research development explosives" they can just say they were in Slovakia.

Wow.

Wow again.

Re:What the...? (1)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662870)

So the next time a real terrorist gets caught in line they can now claim the TSA planted the explosives on therm.....

Re:What the...? (2, Interesting)

FooAtWFU (699187) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662926)

I don't know that the typical "let's blow up a plane!" sort of terrorist we've run into of late is all that worried about getting away without trouble if they're caught. I mean, they're willing to die.

WHY does this NEVER hapen to me? (1)

abbynormal brain (1637419) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662754)

Can you say "lawsuit"? What are the laws in that country concerning these things? Boy! If this happened to me here, I'd start planning my European vacation and picking Lamborghini colors.

Re:WHY does this NEVER hapen to me? (4, Informative)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662784)

I don't like your chances of suing the Slovak police in Slovakia.

Re:WHY does this NEVER hapen to me? (1)

SomeJoel (1061138) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662936)

I don't like your chances of suing the Slovak police in Slovakia.

Even if you do win, you probably wouldn't like how they "settle their debts".

Re:WHY does this NEVER hapen to me? (1)

lga (172042) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663000)

Slovakia is part of the EU now, if you couldn't get a fair trial in Slovakia, you could in the EU courts.

Re:WHY does this NEVER hapen to me? (1)

dbIII (701233) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663072)

In some times and places sue turns into suicide by cop. We took him for a ride in a helicopter and he fell out the open door (PNG), or fell down the stairs (RSA), was suicidal and jumped out the window leaving some fingernails behind (USSR) etc etc. Even the USA has a few examples.

Re:WHY does this NEVER hapen to me? (2, Insightful)

numo (181335) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663252)

Good luck sueing the slovak police... there were cases were real harm was done and it took years to sort it out, sometimes at the european level (I am a Slovak living in Slovakia and following the local news).

Here it looks like the slovak police botched their job, but it took irish officers to make a royal mess of it ;)

The local media coverage (by any means _not_ government friendly) says that

1) the slovak authorities informed the pilot who was still waiting for takeoff and he decided that this is not a threat and continued the flight

2) the Dublin airport was informed during the flight. They later reported back that they did not find any explosive, but the officer informed his boss two days (!) later, triggering the a bit chaotic operation.

From the information circulating I tend to believe that the Dublin airport was sitting on the failed catching of the "parcel" for two days and is doing damage control now.

Heck of a (1)

al0ha (1262684) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662758)

crash test; dummies.

Suuuuure they did (1)

DriedClexler (814907) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662762)

"Oh, these explosives must have been *planted* on me. I'm not part of a group trying doing dry run or anything."

Hey, just "puttin' it out there"...

Re:Suuuuure they did (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662912)

Except that they didn't find them at all, until the Slovakian Police told them about it. So if it was a dry run you just wouldn't tell the police in Ireland at all...

Re:Suuuuure they did (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663012)

Christ its Ireland we are talking about. What do they do to you in Ireland if they find explosives?

Re:Suuuuure they did (5, Funny)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663238)

What do they do to you in Ireland if they find explosives?

Give you communion and call you a patriot.

Why? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662766)

TFA doesn't explain why the explosives were planted. One obvious reason is to test security but in that case you would have a "wicket keeper" to catch the undetected explosives.

I recall reading about police in (I think) Japan who were doing this with drugs. Planting the stuff on people then testing their inspectors. One sample got away I believe.

Re:Why? (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662834)

This was an even more defenseless person. It wasn't planted on him, it was planted on his luggage after he had checked it. Who looks to make sure something hasn't been inserted among your worn clothes as you get your bag back?

Re:Why? (2, Funny)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662868)

I chuck mine straight in the washing machine set on hot, then the dryer. Then I give it a good going over with an iron.

Re:Why? (2, Informative)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662956)

Doesn't that ruin most drugs?

Re:Why? (4, Insightful)

Jarik C-Bol (894741) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662840)

in other news, we know know that RDX can get through airport security. No wonder a guy managed to get a crotch-bomb onto a plane during christmas.

Re:Why? (5, Funny)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662852)

TFA doesn't explain why the explosives were planted. One obvious reason is to test security but in that case you would have a "wicket keeper" to catch the undetected explosives.

It may just be bad English or a translation error, but the Slovakian Police were quoted as saying "Someone set us up the bomb".

Re:Why? (2, Informative)

Trepidity (597) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663104)

Bad English indeed, to flip around the words in the idiomatic English phrase "set up us the bomb".

Re:Why? (2, Interesting)

centuren (106470) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662872)

TFA doesn't explain why the explosives were planted. One obvious reason is to test security but in that case you would have a "wicket keeper" to catch the undetected explosives.

I recall reading about police in (I think) Japan who were doing this with drugs. Planting the stuff on people then testing their inspectors. One sample got away I believe.

I expected security tests with planted explosives to come at some point, but I assumed that they would use undercover agents to test security, not innocent bystanders. However, I'd assumed the same would have happened for something like the described drug operation in Japan. I don't see how any government could do something so reckless.

Scientific method (2, Interesting)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662940)

TFA doesn't explain why the explosives were planted. One obvious reason is to test security but in that case you would have a "wicket keeper" to catch the undetected explosives.

I recall reading about police in (I think) Japan who were doing this with drugs. Planting the stuff on people then testing their inspectors. One sample got away I believe.

I expected security tests with planted explosives to come at some point, but I assumed that they would use undercover agents to test security, not innocent bystanders. However, I'd assumed the same would have happened for something like the described drug operation in Japan. I don't see how any government could do something so reckless.

They are doing a proper double blind test. The Undercover agents would give away their special status. A lot of the work of security is watching the behaviour of the travelling public. Does this person think like a bored traveller?

Re:Why? (1)

nedlohs (1335013) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662886)

It's so obvious it doesn't need an explanation. Heck, you worked it out!

Re:Why? (1)

lendacon (1714178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662978)

It was a test for the bomb sniffing dog. The policeman responsible for the planting 2 packs of explosives forgot about one :) (The airport had like 3 flights that day, it's not hard to forget something in that rush)

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30663036)

According to http://www.sme.sk/c/5179110/policajti-na-letisku-schovali-vybusniny-do-batozin-jedna-odletela-do-dublinu.html (in Slovak) it was a security test. The cops planted 8 bombs into the checked baggages to test their dogs but the dogs found only 7. When they realized that one bomb is missing the plane already took off.

Re:Why? (1)

InakaBoyJoe (687694) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663226)

In Japan it happened in 2008. Narita customs officers inserted some cannabis into a passenger's luggage to check their security, but the passenger slipped through and went home with the drugs. The passenger returned the drugs, and those responsible were punished. [nwsource.com]

It seems that this is a systematic way of "quality assurance" in airport security around the world. Unfortunately, when mistakes occur, it creates plausible deniability for anyone caught with contraband.

On the other hand, maybe it brings us one step closer to realizing the stupidity of security theatre...

Testing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30662778)

If you don't test your security, how do you know if it's working? Or, in this case, apparently not working.

Without a detonator, these explosives aren't actually going to be dangerous.

Re:Testing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30663266)

Not dangerous? You go walk through Irish airport security with explosives then... I'd be terrified.

About the need to test security: sure, you need to do that. However, if your security test is this badly executed I don't really trust the tes or the security...

Hopefully something changes (2, Insightful)

lendacon (1714178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662812)

This country is going to hell, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Police planting exposives in your baggage ? (WTF ? )

Re:Hopefully something changes (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662996)

This country is going to hell, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Police planting exposives in your baggage ? (WTF ? )

Slovakia?

Re:Hopefully something changes (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30663028)

Yes, this country is going to Hell because ANOTHER one f's up.

Modded to "funny?" Maybe in a laugh-at-us-not-with-us kind of way.

Multilayer WTF? (4, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662878)

1. WTF: No theat to passengers? At the very least 8 passengers were put into serious danger, considering the trigger-happyness of some guards. Your bags get opened, they find explosives, now don't twitch the wrong way or else...

2. WTF: What about the whole security theater we have to endure? The whole privacy invasion and they can't even find effing explosives? Just do away with the whole crap and be done with it, at least the planes will go on time again that way. Because that showed one thing: If you want to blow up a plane, you can. You just might have to send a few guys, one of them will make it. And that's pretty much all you need. After all, as a terrorist you don't really care about picking a special target plane. Any will do to cause fear.

But I'm sure we'll soon get info how the whole thing works like a charm, after all 7 out of 8 bombs would have been detected...

Re:Multilayer WTF? (1)

Barny (103770) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663112)

They didn't say they all had explosives, just "contraband", this particular persons contraband was explosive in nature.

As for those saying "oh it was only 90g", that much with some shaping behind it could make a great big hole in a plane.

Re:Multilayer WTF? (4, Informative)

RobVB (1566105) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663168)

But I'm sure we'll soon get info how the whole thing works like a charm, after all 7 out of 8 bombs would have been detected...

I don't even think that's the case.

FTFA:

The explosive was one of eight pieces of contraband placed with unsuspecting passengers at Bratislava Airport last weekend, broadcaster RTE reported.

and

Airport security detected seven of the illicit items, but the eighth - 90g of research development explosive - managed to escape detection.

They planted eight pieces of contraband, one of which (the one that got through) was a high-grade explosive. They don't mention what the other seven pieces were, but they could have been steak knives, scissors, nail clippers, forks or drugs. All of which are easily detected with things that don't detect bombs.

Re:Multilayer WTF? (2, Interesting)

netruner (588721) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663170)

One problem with this whole thing is that if the luggage owner doesn't know there is contraband in it, they will act differently than someone who knows what they're carrying.

Observing "suspicious behavior" is a big part of picking this stuff out.

I think this should be enough to invalidate their test unless they were intentionally isolating the behavior observation methods out.

Re:Multilayer WTF? (4, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663254)

Does it matter? Imagine I'm a terrorist and want to blow up a plane. Do I take my explosives with me? Hell no. Instead, I'll seed a few other travelers. For multiple reasons:

1) The obvious one you mention, I might act suspicious because I know I will suicidally blow up the plane. They will probably search me throughly because I'm nervous. They won't search some random travellers.

2) They might find one or two of my explosives. By spreading them over a number of people I increase my chance to get the items on the plane.

The test is valid. What matters is that these things are on the plane. You might remember that the 9/11 attackers didn't bring their weapons on board themselves either.

Re:Multilayer WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30663188)

What's wrong with defense in depth? It's practiced everywhere.

Re:Multilayer WTF? (1)

petes_PoV (912422) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663250)

as a terrorist you don't really care about picking a special target plane.

Sure you do. Some country's airlines give greater publicity (which, after all is what it's about) to problems like their planes exploding. Plus, it's generally not a smart move to blow up flights run by your own or a sympathetic country.

What The Hell ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30662938)

This is not funny.
Im from Slovakia.

What the hell is going on in this country ?

This was a security test (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30662942)

According to http://www.sme.sk/c/5179110/policajti-na-letisku-schovali-vybusniny-do-batozin-jedna-odletela-do-dublinu.html (in slovak)

Lucky they landed in Ireland and not the US. (2, Insightful)

Dr. Spork (142693) | more than 4 years ago | (#30662974)

I really wonder what American authorities would have done! This stunt is so crazy that I almost can't believe it's real.

Re:Lucky they landed in Ireland and not the US. (1)

Chad Birch (1222564) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663102)

If the article had been posted anywhere except on the BBC site, I probably wouldn't have believed it. I'm still finding it difficult.

Absolutely insane.

Re:Lucky they landed in Ireland and not the US. (4, Interesting)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663130)

In 1997 in Galway, Ireland I watched the Army deliver money to a bank. They don't use security guards for that in Ireland. Or didn't, anyway. They had three guys in good positions with self loading rifles triangulated on the entrance to the bank. There were hundreds of people in the street and if they had opened up with the guns many people would have died.

Money and explosives are taken very seriously in Ireland.

Re:Lucky they landed in Ireland and not the US. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30663236)

I really wonder what American authorities would have done! This stunt is so crazy that I almost can't believe it's real.

I believe you get an all expenses paid trip to Egypt. Just show them your all-inclusive wristbands (provided) for a nice relaxing course of waterboarding at the local spa.

Smoke test (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30663008)

It's horrible for the arrested man, but part of me wants to applaud the Slovakian police. These guys aren't pussyfooting around, and did a real blind security test. This probably exposes how the security works on an average day, rather than when screeners suspect a test of the system.

Link to The Irish Times newspaper (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30663020)

From TFA:
Explosives found in Dublin flat
CONOR LALLY, Crime Correspondent

A Garda investigation is under way after a Slovakian man unwittingly carried explosives on a commercial flight to Ireland as part of an airport security check that went wrong.
The 49-year-old was one of eight people who had plastic explosives planted in their luggage last Saturday morning at Bratislava airport by the Slovakian security services.
The covert planting of the material in the passengers' bags was done to test the airport's security screening.
Security checks at the airport uncovered seven of the concealments. However, the man flying to Dublin was not detected.

Read the rest here [irishtimes.com] .

Unbelievably? (1)

General Wesc (59919) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663080)

Unbelievably, one innocent traveler made it home with 90 grams of explosives, and had his flat surrounded by the police and bomb squad.

What do you mean unbelievably? I'd hope to most people that the ability to get through security with a bomb is completely unsurprising. Surely to anyone capable of critical thought and has been through an airport security checkpoint.

Meanwhile, in Spain (4, Funny)

mbone (558574) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663122)

Could this be another Police test gone awry ?

"Huge" quantities of cocaine delivered to supermarkets in Spain [bbc.co.uk] hidden in boxes of bananas.

Why "unbelieveably"? (3, Insightful)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663134)

We all know that the "security" is crap (and now we have more evidence that those enforcing it are loons).

Mr Ahern? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30663142)

The Slovakian minister for the interior had expressed his government's "profound regret" to Mr Ahern

How old is this story? Mr Ahern (presumably Bertie Ahern) resigned from office in May 2008.

Just kidding... (1)

evil_aar0n (1001515) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663166)

Oi, those crazy Slovaks, always kidding around. I'm sure all involved will get a good laugh out of it...

Why (1)

ShooterNeo (555040) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663176)

Why didn't they use blocks of plastic COATED with a thin layer of real explosives? Enough that any sort of sniffer should be able to detect them, but not enough to make a dangerous explosion.

Even 80g of explosives is a fair sized bang, is it not?

Gotta light? (3, Funny)

whrde (1120405) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663196)

I hope they at least chose non-smokers.

And now the terrorists (1)

Arancaytar (966377) | more than 4 years ago | (#30663268)

... know exactly which airport is best for smuggling explosives.

I mean, responsible intrusion and disclosure is useful on computer systems, but what exactly did this test accomplish? All I know is that I'm not flying to Bratislava.

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