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Cellphone Radiation May Protect Brain From Alzheimers

kdawson posted more than 4 years ago | from the i-forget-why dept.

Cellphones 254

We've discussed cellphones and cancer many times. Here's a new angle: reader olddotter sends in a Reuters article suggesting that cellphone radiation may protect the brain from Alzheimer's disease. "At the end of that time, they found cellphone exposure erased a build-up of beta amyloid, a protein that serves as a hallmark of Alzheimer's disease. The Alzheimer's mice showed improvement and had reversal of their brain pathology..."

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Mice (5, Funny)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#30685740)

Maybe the mice that were talking on cell phones had a richer mental life, staving off the disease for reasons other than the radiation.

Re:Mice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30685864)

Only on slashdot would this be interesting!

Re:Mice (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30685916)

Thank you! Thank you!

Finally, somebody has been able to point out that "correlation does not imply causation" without using that goddamn phrase.

Re:Mice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686090)

Alas, only if you had been able to point out that, somebody has been able to point out that "correlation does not imply causation", without using that goddamn phrase, we would have much more happier!

Re:Mice (4, Insightful)

GargamelSpaceman (992546) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686322)

Although in this case, they actually proved causation.

Re:Mice (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686308)

Actually, I think you wanted to say "Correlation does not equal causation"

Correlation often *implies* causation, especially in well designed and executed scientific studies that eliminate most other possible causes. Of course, implying it does not prove it - that is much harder.

Re:Mice (4, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686416)

...Except this experiment used mice and does more or less prove causation.....

Re:Mice (5, Funny)

docneuro (849457) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686176)

Maybe the mice that were talking on cell phones had a richer mental life, staving off the disease for reasons other than the radiation.

Nah. There was less amyloid because the mice unfortunately crashed their cars while talking on the cell phone and just died young.

Nothing to see here... move along.

Re:Mice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686358)

Judging from the people I see driving while blabbing on phones and the mindless conversations I'm forced to listen to in public places I'd say most people aren't having a richer mental life with cellphones.

Re:Mice (2, Funny)

SEWilco (27983) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686506)

Maybe the mice that were talking on cell phones had a richer mental life, staving off the disease for reasons other than the radiation.

I don't know how much richer is thinking "Why does this box make noises like another mouse?"
And they'd have a less rich mental life if they're using GPS to find their cheese in the maze.

Re:Mice (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686514)

Were the mice allowed to use the cell phones to make booty calls?

GOATSE MAY PROTECT THE ARSE FROM HEMORROIDS (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30685746)

We've discussed lemonparty.org and meatspin many times. Here's a new angle: reader first post troll sends in a Tubgirl article suggesting that Goatse may protect the arse from hemorroids.

Choice to Make (3, Insightful)

arthurpaliden (939626) | more than 4 years ago | (#30685756)

So I can not use a cell phone and may get alzheimers or I can use a cell phone and not get alzheimers but could get brain cancer ...... time to flip a coin.

Re:Choice to Make (4, Funny)

lorenlal (164133) | more than 4 years ago | (#30685780)

Maybe we've got it all wrong... Can alzheimers be the cure for cancer?

Re:Choice to Make (4, Funny)

arthurpaliden (939626) | more than 4 years ago | (#30685800)

I don't remember......

Re:Choice to Make (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30685974)

PICKLES!

Re:Choice to Make (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30685980)

Can alzheimers be the cure for cancer?

That's not far off being true.

http://www.healthcentral.com/alzheimers/news-456179-98.html [healthcentral.com]

Re:Choice to Make (1)

TheRealMindChild (743925) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686030)

Well, not a cure, per se, but Alzheimer's is (overlimplified), your brain falling apart like an asprin would in water. That would tell me that the brain tissue just doesnt have a base to grow cancer vary well. On the other hand, if you have a brain tumor, that suggests that its structurally solid and would hinder alzheimer's from startiig/doing well at all

Re:Choice to Make (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686482)

Cancer prevents alzheimer's.

Re:Choice to Make (3, Informative)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686224)

...there's no correlation of cell phones to brain cancer. What coin flipping is necessary? Cell phones are not actually known to cause any health problems by any valid study, and this research strongly suggests that they might help with Alzheimer's. Seems like a pretty good bet to me.

Re:Choice to Make (4, Interesting)

MaWeiTao (908546) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686404)

No correlation to cancer? That's not what studies [sciencedaily.com] are showing. I've also read that cell phones sitting in pockets have been connected to reduced sperm count.

Certainly, given the widespread use of mobile phones and their clear value to us, it would be quite earth-shattering to discover a clear and specific link between phones and cancer. However, at this point I've say the threat is likely quite minimal with moderate use. But mobile phones haven't been around nearly long enough for us to be able to gauge their effects on us. Wait until this generation starts aging; then we'll have a better indication of whether or not cell phones are a danger or not.

You seem fairly eager to believe one study over another simply because that one shows a positive side-effect. There's no reason why one study should be inherently more valid than the other, especially since many of these other studies have been conducted directly on humans.

Re:Choice to Make (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686688)

Am I the only one who isn't too concerned about sperm count?... I celebrate the arrival of my girlfriends monthly cycle, because protection isn't a guarantee... I've considered surgical protection, which would at least be reversible. While I can't really see myself wanting kids in the future, it's possibly I could change my mind and be disappointed.

Also, as with tobacco, if it doesn't cause cancer in more than 50% of users, I'm less inclined to believe any study showing a correlation.

Re:Choice to Make (5, Funny)

TooMuchToDo (882796) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686226)

On a long enough timeline, the rate of survival always drops to zero. Stop worrying so much.

Re:Choice to Make (1)

conureman (748753) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686294)

RTFA Use the cell phone after onset of Alzheimer's.

Re:Choice to Make (2, Funny)

dr2chase (653338) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686672)

If you can remember how to use it.

I'm thinking, cell phones good, Tesla coils better [vimeo.com] ?

Re:Choice to Make (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686384)

Except that I've heard of numerous studies showing no link between cell phones and cancer, and no studies showing they do. From TFA:

Groups such as the World Health Organization, the American Cancer Society, and the National Institutes of Health, have all concluded that scientific evidence to date does not support any adverse health effects associated with the use of cellphones.

Of course it must be true (5, Funny)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 4 years ago | (#30685784)

The mice have been running the experiment to check the safety of cellphones for mice use by making the human beings to use them for a long time. It is quite well known and well documented actually.

Grampa is getting a cell phone! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30685794)

I wonder how many sheeple are now going to run out and get cell phones for their elderly parents/grandparents.

Hello, Mickey? (4, Insightful)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 4 years ago | (#30685814)

The results were a major surprise and open the possibility of developing a noninvasive, drug-free treatment for Alzheimer's, said lead author Gary Arendash of the University of South Florida.

He said he had expected cell phone exposure to increase the effects of dementia.

This is how science is SUPPOSED to work! But don't get your hopes up...

Many treatments that have shown promise in mice have had little effect on humans.

I wonder if this affects the non-Alzheimer's "senior moments" as my mother calls them? I wish they'd had cell phones when I was young! Now where'd I put that damned phone???

Re:Hello, Mickey? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686262)

Kind of sad that we are not mice, isn't it?
I propose that scientists start working on making people more like mice.
Imagine all the treatments we would have instantly available.
The possibilities are endless.

Re:Hello, Mickey? (1)

NotBornYesterday (1093817) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686430)

I propose that scientists start working on making people more like mice.

Why not, politicians have already turned us into sheep. Most of us, anyway.

Re:Hello, Mickey? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686560)

The politicians are sheep too, they did not make everyone else sheep.

Re:Hello, Mickey? (1)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686452)

I recall seeing a reference to something similar in humans a few weeks ago in an article discussing the proposed Maine law requiring warnings of possible brain cancer on cellphones. That article talked about the fact that there were mutliple long term studies looking into correlation between brain cancer and cell phone usage and they all found no increased brain cancer in cell phone users. One of the studies showed a minor, but statistically significant drop in dementia among cell phone users. The scientists running the study dismissed it because they didn't have any explanation and they had not controlled for other factors that are known to correlate to dementia.

Fixing Forgetfull Grandma... (4, Funny)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 4 years ago | (#30685880)

Duct Tape, check
Cell phones, check

So we should go buy a bunch of those pre-paid cell phones and duct tape them to grandma's head and hope to heck her memory gets better.

Re:Fixing Forgetfull Grandma... (2, Funny)

drater (806171) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686082)

My grandmother really has Alzheimer's, you insensitive clod!

Re:Fixing Forgetfull Grandma... (4, Funny)

eln (21727) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686196)

I can send you some duct tape if you'd like...

Re:Fixing Forgetfull Grandma... (1)

shabtai87 (1715592) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686310)

I'm sure he'd much rather you send a cell phone.

Re:Fixing Forgetfull Grandma... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686242)

Duct Tape, check
Cell phones, check

So we should go buy a bunch of those pre-paid cell phones and duct tape them to grandma's head and hope to heck her memory gets better.

If you over do it and grandma tries to eat your brain, just remember I told you so.

Now try keeping the mice warm (1)

istartedi (132515) | more than 4 years ago | (#30685886)

Maybe it was just the heat. Now try keeping the mice in warmer cages. If their autonomic systems tend to cool the brain, try drugs that tend to increase the temperature of the mouse. Maybe it's just the warm brain that does this. Tell gramps to wear a hat when he goes out. Tinfoil optional.

Re:Now try keeping the mice warm (1)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686026)

tinfoil optional, but heat reflecting foil infused with mylar film is mandatory!

Re:Now try keeping the mice warm (1)

noidentity (188756) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686098)

Any luck finding even an abstract? I looked ont he publisher's website but could only find a press release. I'm first wondering whether they even had a second circle of cages with an antenna in the center, but never turned on (and perhaps in a large Faraday cage). In the press release, they speculate about stimulation and blood flow from the EM, but this seems to warrant an experiment to determine its validity. As you say, it could simply be due to increased brain temperature. I mean, elevated temperature, differing things happening, duh!

Re:Now try keeping the mice warm (3, Informative)

reverseengineer (580922) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686200)

Here is the abstract, [metapress.com] but there isn't much mentioned in the abstract beyond what's covered in the press releases.

Re:Now try keeping the mice warm (1)

istartedi (132515) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686426)

Will scientists ever break out of the paywall system? Do they want to?

Re:Now try keeping the mice warm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686484)

Will scientists ever break out of the paywall system? Do they want to?

Sure, please give us more money so we can pay the full costs of publication in peer review journals rather than having the users pay some of the costs.

Re:Now try keeping the mice warm (1)

noidentity (188756) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686624)

Yes, that's a terrible abstract. I was expecting them to summarize their experimental setup and the data they gathered. Instead it sounds like a crappy news article. :(

Re:Now try keeping the mice warm (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686568)

For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word

Fail. Real geeks love languages and don't seek to dumb them down. Your membership has been revoked, effective immediately. Kindly turn in your card and post your final admission of ultimate failure, along with your promise to stop trolling your betters on slashdot.

Well then! (1)

azav (469988) | more than 4 years ago | (#30685908)

Strapping the phones to my head as we speak, with each one set to forward to the next. I look forward to your calls.

scary (5, Interesting)

StripedCow (776465) | more than 4 years ago | (#30685912)

This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brain... which is something to be afraid of, in my opinion.

Re:scary (4, Insightful)

sunking2 (521698) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686014)

Bingo. So much for the argument that the energy is non-ionizing thus cell phones are safe. Assuming this study is factual.

Re:scary (1)

noidentity (188756) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686158)

This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brain... which is something to be afraid of, in my opinion.

Nono, this is GOOD effects, not bad ones. Cellphone radiation has no bad effects, none whatsoever, but it has lots of beneficial effects. While we're on the subject, I highly recommend the Revigator [orau.org] for greater health.

Re:scary (1)

bzipitidoo (647217) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686614)

I have some questions. First, the nasty one: Who funded this study? Telecoms companies?

Next, assuming that radiation helps, why does it help? Could it be vibration? Would getting a massaging bed work as well? Thinking its more like the way blue and UV light helps against acne.

Re:scary (5, Insightful)

dr2chase (653338) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686168)

Yes, but. Cellphone radiation (.85-1.9Ghz) does not penetrate that far into your body, just as microwave radiation (2.45Ghz) does not penetrate that far into a potato.

Studies show that mouse heads are much smaller than human heads, therefore they are getting a much larger dose to their brain, for a given external exposure.

Re:scary (5, Funny)

mcmonkey (96054) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686248)

Studies show that mouse heads are much smaller than human heads

[Citation needed]

Re:scary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686716)

just as microwave radiation (2.45Ghz) does not penetrate that far into a potato.

Bullshit. That's why that frequency was selected. It heats water molecules very well, even at the center of an object like a potato. The water does block some of the radiation but as soon as those molecules started vibrating then the radiation easily penetrates deeper.

Consider that you can put a phone in a Faraday cage with only one side open, put your head between the phone and the cell tower and it will still work. In other words the radio waves are penetrating your head relatively easily.

Re:scary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686738)

Head size and brain size are two different things. For scientific proof just look at the behaviour of our large headed politicians.

Re:scary (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686306)

We've have known for years that non-ionizing radiation can affect biochemical processes (e.g., enzyme kinetics), and can have physiological effects (e.g., suppression of melatonin production, possibly via the same mechanism).

I think sometimes people with physics or engineering backgrounds make the assumption that we understand all the rules and therefore can say with authority "X can't happen". That's rarely true. Being unable to explain a phenomenon may be cause for dismissing it as spurious in some fields, where the rules are understood well enough to distinguish between the improbable and impossible, but in biology that's a dangerous assumption to make. I tend to operate with the reverse of Sherlock Holmes' rule, i.e., if you eliminate the suitably improbable, whatever is left, no matter how impossible, is probably true.

Re:scary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686642)

This proves that cellphone radiation actually interacts with matter in the brain... which is something to be afraid of, in my opinion.

Why?

The automatic assumption of many is that any environmental change is necessarily negative. But there's no logical reason to expect that. Change is just change, and it can go in either direction.

SparkFun Free Day (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30685936)

OMG their servers fucking SUCKED ASS!!!!!!

Bad News (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30685942)

Wow, this is really bad news. If "long-term exposure to electromagnetic waves such as those used in cell phones" can change brain proteins we need to reduce cell phone usage. It's not as if the electromagnetic waves can identify and effect only pathogenic molecules.

Re:Bad News (1)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686000)

Yes, but if you modulate the frequency of the photons and reverse the polarity of the Neutron flow you can design the wave to only affect the plaques that build up in the brains Alzheimer patients. Either that or turn your forgetful grandfather into a mutant that looks like a Dalek when he goes in for his Alzheimer treatment.

Re:Bad News (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686268)

Yes, but if you modulate the frequency of the photons and reverse the polarity of the Neutron flow

Just remember: Do NOT cross the streams!

Re:Bad News (1)

Taibhsear (1286214) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686510)

I know you are joking but there's actually something called photobiomodulation [wikipedia.org] that has been shown to prevent blinding by methanol poisoning and speed up healing (I believe at the same vibration rate as a cat purring).

Easily explained (2, Insightful)

sjonke (457707) | more than 4 years ago | (#30685956)

Most people who die at 50 didn't have alzheimers.

Re:Easily explained (4, Insightful)

gknoy (899301) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686036)

That's an interesting point. As we conquer the lower hanging medical fruit, and prevent the things that used to kill people younger (disease, malnutrition, gum disease, accidents etc), a higher proportion of the people that DO die will be dying because of old age, or of diseases which only tend to affect older people.

Great news for drivers (1)

bobschneider8 (878023) | more than 4 years ago | (#30685966)

So now we're going to have the old ladies in their 1989 Cadilacs also talking on their cell phones while driving?

Re:Great news for drivers (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686022)

Driving 30 in a 55mph zone, with their left turn signal on for the entire trip, yes. In fact, I believe I was behind this woman on my trip into work this morning!

If you give a mouse a cell phone, (4, Funny)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 4 years ago | (#30685986)

He's going to ask for a Bluetooth headset.

Re:If you give a mouse a cell phone, (1)

Praeluceo (528253) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686260)

If you give him a Bluetooth headset he's going to ask for a latte.

Re:If you give a mouse a cell phone, (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686424)

When he drinks the latte, the caffeine will make his heartbeat clearly audible. The thumping sound will remind him that he needs to burn a new rap CD for the car.

Re:If you give a mouse a cell phone, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686684)

What if it's a Bluetooth wireless mouse?

Medical science is bunk (1)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686012)

Well, not entirely, but substantially, unfortunately.

Re:Medical science is bunk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686564)

Care to elaborate, Mr. Cruise?

So ... it DOES affects the brain (0, Redundant)

Via_Patrino (702161) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686018)

If this study is confirmed it should also prove that cellphones DOES affect the brain. You may not get Alzheimer but, it can, temporally or definitive, affects how your brain works. Like making bad decisions while using your cell phone or get some kind of dementia.

Correction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686208)

If confirmed, it proves it affects *mice's brains*

Re:Correction (1)

funwithBSD (245349) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686246)

The OP is a MOUSE you insensitive clod!

First Post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686070)

At least it would have been if my Alzheimer's didn't make me forget to post earlier.

tough call (1)

Xanj (975765) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686080)

brain cancer or Alzheimers how would u like to die?

Easy call (3, Funny)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686576)

Alzheimers! I'd love to be able to hide my own Easter eggs, and every time you make love to your wife, it feels like a whole new experience! Plus, you can laugh at the same old jokes several times (like the ones my father tells over and over and over again!) Yep, Alzheimers is definitely the way to go! Uh... what was the question again?

This sounds like a Simpson's parody (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686112)

Mr. Smithers trying to convince the townsfolk that his nuclear powered cell phones aren't dangerous. I bet they taste like chocolate, too!

My girlfriend (1)

rehtonAesoohC (954490) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686144)

I think my girlfriend has saved up enough cell phone usage to prevent alzheimers in both of us!

Sibiu (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686212)

Sisteme securitate [ordis.ro]

Quick! (3, Funny)

peacefinder (469349) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686238)

Everyone mail their old cell phones to Sir Terry Pratchett, stat!

Re:Quick! (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686502)

With that much radiation, maybe he'll develop magical powers and finally get in to Unseen University.

A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiation (3, Insightful)

carlhaagen (1021273) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686244)

In many related discussions here on /., oh so many readers have, in various ways, blatantly slandered the idea that EM radiation in the microwave spectrum also has a directly, altering effect on tissue and matter in general - to whatever the extent may be. So, what's your stance now? I have the idea that this lot refused to believe this when it was in the context of f.e. "cellphones being bad for you", but just might be open the idea now that some "good" effect is proven from the EMR. If that's the case, why are these people changing their minds all of the sudden? Why accept this, but not the original arguments regarding microwave radiation?

Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati (5, Insightful)

Attila Dimedici (1036002) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686504)

Why accept this, but not the original arguments regarding microwave radiation?

Because this is based on a scientific, reproducible study that shows an actual effect, whereas, the claims that there were negative effects were contradicted by all of the scientific, reproducible experiments that were run to test them.

Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati (5, Interesting)

boojum.cat (150829) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686538)

The argument, as I understand it, is that cancer is caused by mutated DNA, and DNA cannot be mutated by radiation that's too weak to break chemical bonds. Since cell phone radiation doesn't break bonds, it doesn't cause cancer. If Alzheimer's is caused by something other than mutated DNA, the argument doesn't apply.

Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati (1)

Mia'cova (691309) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686548)

As someone who doubts cellphones cause statistically significant brain damage, I also doubt it causes statistically significant improvements. Naturally, the science will speak for itself either way.

Certainly similar radiation at much higher doses will have an effect. Also, keep in mind mice have much smaller heads. A cellphone would have a much stronger effect on a mouse as the radiation will far more easily penetrate the skull and brain. In humans, much of the strength is lost before the signal makes it to the brain.

Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686566)

Yes. The inconsistency is annoying and points towards an anti-science pro-gadget attitude that makes me want to read elsewhere.

Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati (1)

Toonol (1057698) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686748)

Many of us are as skeptical of these results as we are of the other results. Let more research be done, and see if we get consistently repeatable results.

Re:A thought that crossed my mind about EM radiati (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686752)

Because there is a big difference between the hypothesis that cellular phones can cause cancerous tumors to form in human brains and the finding that it can break up a plaque at a much larger scale...

In other news that white people like... (1)

d34dluk3 (1659991) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686280)

Drinking lattes reduces your risk of Parkinson's disease

Re:In other news that white people like... (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686534)

But once you have it, Parkinson's increases the chances of your being burned by the latte.

Won't matter. (1)

Mekkah (1651935) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686330)

It doesn't matter, if you talk on a cell phone you will die in a car crash AND murder someone. I saw it on tv, clearly I won't have time to get Alzheimer's.

Re:Won't matter. (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686448)

Exactly, which is how the cell phone protects you from Alzheimer's. You die in a horrific car crash at 18.

SCIENCE!!!!

Not reassuring... (0, Redundant)

metrometro (1092237) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686492)

If we accept for a moment that cellphone radiation (very low-dose but longterm exposure microwaves) is zapping proteins related to Alzheimers, I'm not going to jump up and down and get happy. Rather the opposite: we've confirmed that, in this case, supposedly benign EM radiation (non-ionizing, etc) can have important, medically significant effects on how our brains function. And we're currently zapping a hell of lot of people with this stuff. And we have really no idea what those effects are.

Unless my math is wrong, plugging in a headset on a 1m cord reduces your exposure by a whole lot compared to keeping the antenna shoved up against your head. Seems like a good idea until we get this sorted out.

I use my phone quite a bit. (1)

UncHellMatt (790153) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686520)

And I may have alzheimers, but at least I don't have alzheimers.

So, if you're over 60... (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686532)

...spend a few minutes each day with your head in the microwave.

Oh, crap! (1)

marqs (774373) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686604)

I can't remember the PIN code for my phone.

THIS FP FOR GNAA (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30686660)

Several ways radiation is helpfull (1)

gurps_npc (621217) | more than 4 years ago | (#30686690)

There are quite a few studies showing low level radiation may be helpfull. Most of the scientists involved think the effects are related to cellular suicide. That is, each cell has a suicide mechanism that lets it kill itself if it 'thinks' (I use that word to represent some form biological test that evolution created that effectively make a decision) it is about to become a tumer.

So in effect, our cells have evolved to suicide if they dectect mutations. Tumers and many other problems are caused when the mutations are just below the suicide threshold. The radiation adds just a bit more mutations, of the easily detectable kind, pushing borderline cells into suicide, while leaving healthy cells with a relatively minor, low level damage not suffecient to cause problems.

This theory might support the idea that Alzheimers is some kind of low-level mutation.

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