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Star Trek Online Open Beta Starts Today

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the let's-see-what-she's-got dept.

Sci-Fi 309

Today Cryptic Studios will begin the open beta of Star Trek Online, opening their test servers to invitees and anyone who has pre-ordered the game. The beta will run through the 26th, and the game will officially launch on February 2nd; head-start players will be allowed in on January 29th. The game is set in the old universe (not the rebooted one from last year's movie), and takes place roughly 30 years after the events in Star Trek: Nemesis. There are two playable factions to start — the Federation and the Klingon Empire — and more may become available later on. There will be conflict between the two factions, but supposedly all PvP will be "optional and consensual." Players will be able to choose from a variety of ships, and they'll see cameos from familiar characters. Eurogamer has a hands-on preview of the game, and fans of the Trek universe will be pleased to hear that "Cryptic is clearly thinking about Star Trek first and MMO convention second." A number of gameplay trailers are available for viewing, and the official forums have a nice collection of facts.

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Awesome. (1)

Xeno man (1614779) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740280)

Can't wait to try it out.

Re:Awesome. (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740320)

How can I get an invite? I've got a Champions Online membership, but only those people that were in the Champions Online open beta automatically received an invite to the StarTrek Online open beta.

Re:Awesome. (1)

Drethon (1445051) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740958)

People who pre-ordered can get in on the open beta, not sure if they can share the key or something... I'm willing to give them $50 to try it out, we'll see a month later :)

Re:Awesome. (1)

GigaHurtsMyRobot (1143329) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741072)

How about a !open tag? This is most definitely a closed beta.

I'm on it (1)

OglinTatas (710589) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740286)

Time to quit my job full time...

Re:I'm on it (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30740580)

Play this, or have sex at some point in your life. Choose one.

That makes sense (5, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740294)

PvP will be "optional and consensual

Klingon: Sir, I propose that we engage in physical combat--with your consent of course.

Federation: Why that would be smashing! Gentlemen's rules apply?

Klingon: Why of course sir, let us stand 5 paces apart and engage in fisticuffs on the count of five.

Federation: And no hitting in the groin or other sensitive areas?

Klingon: I wouldn't dream of it, sir.

Re:That makes sense (2, Funny)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740764)

What the hell kind of Klingon speaks like that?

Re:That makes sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30740818)

Pre- Brow Ridge kind.

Re:That makes sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30740856)

And..Woosh...

Re:That makes sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30740866)

The Star Trek Online kind. You see, it's a joke.......

Re:That makes sense (5, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740834)

Do really nerdy Klingons learn English?

Re:That makes sense (2, Funny)

Tauvix (97917) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741086)

Only if they want to compare Shakespeare from the original Klingon.

Re:That makes sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30741260)

Nerdy Klingons learn LATIN.

Re:That makes sense (5, Funny)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741552)

Federation: Why that would be smashing! Gentlemen's rules apply?

I liked Garek's idea of a fair fight:

Garek: When the Klingons attacked the station, Gul Dukat and I were fighting side by side. At one point, he turned his back to me, and I must admit that for a moment, he made a very tempting target.
Odo: You'd shoot a man in the back?
Garek: Well, it's the safest way, isn't it?

I thought they said this was in the new universe. (0, Troll)

Commander South (1139931) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740358)

I remember them saying it was in the new continuity...

Re:I thought they said this was in the new univers (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30740464)

Im sure there is a slashdot article somewhere about faulty memory....

Open and consensual? (1)

Profane MuthaFucka (574406) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740362)

I hope that means I'm free to be green!

Level based or skill based? (1)

Xoltri (1052470) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740372)

"You must be level 20 to use this phaser". Is this going to happen in this game or is it skill based like Asheron's Call was?

Re:Level based or skill based? (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740440)

It was just a casual reading but last I heard it was skill based.

I went ahead and pre-ordered yesterday to get into the beta. Odds are I probably won't stick with the game, but WoW is getting a little long in the tooth and I'm looking for alternate games to at least try out.

Re:Level based or skill based? (4, Interesting)

nschubach (922175) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740696)

If WoW is getting boring, this will not hold you for more than a month unless you really love Star Trek and must buy this game in collectors edition (twice, so you have one to play and he other to display.)

I can't force myself to log into the game anymore. For one, it gets to be extremely tedious being confined to a small square box until you warp which zones you (with load screen) to a "warp zone" where you fly around and choose what zone you want to "drop out of warp" into. Add that to the extremely lackluster combat of flying circles around the enemy and occasionally turning around to distribute damage to the other shields and you have a really, really lackluster game.

Basically, it's the Champions Online game with ships instead of super heroes. Same engine, same zone structure (with instancing), and the same quest log/quest types. The only thing I can think of right now that they added is a "ship" inventory so you can upgrade shields, phasers, and such with items you will find during battles or apparently "research" by taking rare ores found in sectors to an NPC to process.

Also, Klingons are pretty much 99% PvP based so if you wanted to run a freighter or some other non-combat scenario for The Empire, you'll find yourself without. Land/ship based combat is your typical target and select 1, 2, or 3 to select your weapon/attack. But wow, you can decide if you are in attack mode or speed mode. Woo!

Re:Level based or skill based? (3, Informative)

Nasarius (593729) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740884)

you have a really, really lackluster game.

I only played this past weekend after I got a beta key, but I have to agree. It's pretty much exactly what you'd expect from a Star Trek MMORPG, if your expectations were entirely unambitious. The bridge officers change things up a little, but mostly in a cosmetic way. Gameplay is fundamentally unchanged from the model EQ and WoW set over the past decade. It's sadly typical MMO quest grind, and not half as polished as WoW. The interface, for example, is sluggish, poorly designed, and buggy.

Maybe if you're a big Star Trek fan, it'll still be fun. But if you've had your fill of typical MMOs that do nothing interesting with the whole massively multiplayer thing, I'd steer clear.

Re:Level based or skill based? (3, Interesting)

TheKidWho (705796) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740886)

To be honest, I found the combat at least a bit more engaging than WoW ever was, also with the last closed beta patch they significantly increased the difficulty level which made it more fun for me.

I think the game has a chance, especially if they improve it as they have been and add Bridges for warp travel instead of the silly warp sector.

Re:Level based or skill based? (1)

SomeJoel (1061138) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740442)

"You must be level 20 to use this phaser".

Well that makes sense. Starter phasers only have stun and kill, but you have to be moderately experienced to be able to properly wield additional level 20 phaser settings: intimidate, humiliate and irradiate.

Re:Level based or skill based? (1)

idontgno (624372) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740828)

Well that makes sense. Starter phasers only have stun and kill, but you have to be moderately experienced to be able to properly wield additional level 20 phaser settings: intimidate, humiliate and irradiate.

At what level can I set my phaser to "pew pew pwn"?

Re:Level based or skill based? (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741098)

"You must be level 20 to use this phaser". Is this going to happen in this game or is it skill based like Asheron's Call was?

Is level 20 based on skill?

No thanks. (5, Insightful)

Kirin Fenrir (1001780) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740396)


- 18 month development time

- lackluster character animation

- PVP-only Klingon "faction"

- typical tank/dps/healer holy trinity (even in ships for pete's sake)

- subscription fee AND microtransation store


This is a half-ass, generic MMO wrapped in the designs and sounds of a franchise we're prone to get nostalgic about. It's a cheap ploy, and I won't support Cryptic and their shitty games.

Yes, I'm bitter at the terrible mess that was Champions Online. But they have not shown any change as a developer.

My impression from a long time beta friend (3, Informative)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740472)

is that IS Champion's Online with Star Trek star ships.

Away team missions comprise of find the shiny objects (like bombs)

Though he does like the star ship combat currently (I would not mind a B5 game like the older Star Trek simulator)

Re:My impression from a long time beta friend (2, Informative)

nschubach (922175) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740742)

Your friend would be right. The only thing they added to the engine for ship to ship combat is vector shields and power settings, but it's still Champions in Space.

Re:No thanks. (4, Insightful)

IronChef (164482) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740612)

I watched a guy at work playing the closed beta. One of his newb missions was to fight the Borg.

It looked just like a fantasy MMO game where newbs showed up to fight rats, except the rats were Borg. There may have been some crates, too. And lasers.

I would rather have been blasting Denebian slime devils than the FREAKIN' BORG, who should be too tough for newbs. So their talk about respecting the story is not entirely accurate.

Re:No thanks. (1)

BenLeeImp (1347831) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741238)

Having just gotten into the beta, and played through a chunk of what you have just described, I concur. They do state that they are "disconnected" borg, but still ... its a pretty strange way to open the series. I haven't been able to finish, however, due to server disconnects. They could potentially salvage this if it were to turn out to be a holodeck simulation, though.

Re:No thanks. (4, Funny)

furby076 (1461805) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741460)

I would rather have been blasting Denebian slime devils than the FREAKIN' BORG, who should be too tough for newbs. So their talk about respecting the story is not entirely accurate.

Doing any action, other then running while peeing your pants, when encountering the borg should automatically delete your character, subscription and ban your game key UNLESS you are engaging them with three full-sized armadas. And then you get to keep your account if you still run while peeing your pants.


....just sayin

Keep an open mind (3, Interesting)

flithm (756019) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740716)

- It has been in development for almost 5 years, the team is completely different than Champions
- Character animation looks pretty good to me, but what a minor thing to complain about. It'll get better over time too. I could personally care less if it uses ASCII graphics, as long as the gameplay is solid
- Klingon faction is currently mostly PVP -- they want to add more content later. Big deal! In fact, some players will like this.
- There's a lot more going on than just tank / healer / etc. You can equip modules in any way you want to give your ship a versatile configuration. Seam with team members for away missions. It may not be the most revolutionary game around but, it does do something different. I for one look forward to trying out the strategic space combat.
- It's only microtransaction in the same way that WoW is. You can buy items that don't really affect the gameplay.
- Initial reviews and impressions are much more positive than with Cryptic's previous offerings.
.
Who knows, maybe it will suck, maybe it won't. We don't know yet.

Re:Keep an open mind (4, Funny)

nschubach (922175) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740800)

- It has been in development for almost 5 years, the team is completely different than Champions

Yet somehow they both came up with the same game! It must be good!

Re:Keep an open mind (4, Informative)

FileNotFound (85933) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740956)

- It has been in development for almost 5 years, the team is completely different than Champions

Yes and no. The game WAS in development since 2004, but by a different company who went bankrupt and kept the code.
Cryptic took over in 2008, without the code but with the license and art.

- Character animation looks pretty good to me, but what a minor thing to complain about. It'll get better over time too. I could personally care less if it uses ASCII graphics, as long as the gameplay is solid

The animations are terrible. Even Everquest animation was less ugly. The gameplay is certainly not good enough to make up for the graphics.

- Klingon faction is currently mostly PVP -- they want to add more content later. Big deal! In fact, some players will like this.

"more content later" is another way of saying "It's not done and may never be unless we maintain a certain level of subscriptions. Which they will not.

- There's a lot more going on than just tank / healer / etc. You can equip modules in any way you want to give your ship a versatile configuration. Seam with team members for away missions. It may not be the most revolutionary game around but, it does do something different. I for one look forward to trying out the strategic space combat.

In short, you can solo. But in a team you're still going to be in a cookie cutter configuration, just like everyone else. Nobody wants a funky ship or a furry speced warrior.

- It's only microtransaction in the same way that WoW is. You can buy items that don't really affect the gameplay.
- Initial reviews and impressions are much more positive than with Cryptic's previous offerings. .

Which isn't saying much really...

Who knows, maybe it will suck, maybe it won't. We don't know yet.

No. We don't know yet, but the outlook isn't all that good and the past products do not create much goodwill for the developer.

Re:Keep an open mind (1)

YourExperiment (1081089) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741524)

I could personally care less if it uses ASCII graphics

Yeah, me too, that would be horrible!

Re:No thanks. (1)

ChinggisK (1133009) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740732)

Add in the fact that they require you to preorder the game to get into their "open" beta, and I'm inclined to agree.

Re:No thanks. (2, Interesting)

FileNotFound (85933) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740766)

Yeah this game is going to be crap. It won't last more than 2 years, and really I don't think they expect it to. There is no high end content and the plans for it are unclear. The pvp is a joke, the pve is dull and repetitive. Space combat may seem fun at first but it gets old fast.

In fact the ancient Earth and Beyond had space combat that felt more polished and actually looked better.

The graphics in this game are horrible. I do mean horrible. Now don't get me wrong, a great game can have bad graphics. But seriously, this is the ugliest mainstream MMO out there. The ship explosions are ugly. Freespace 2 looked way better - and that was more than 10 years ago.

I don't understand how anyone can be excited about this game. My friends who are all WoW and EVE veterans have zero interest in STO after playing it.

Re:No thanks. (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741310)

Has any MMO ever launched with the high end content in place?

Re:No thanks. (2, Informative)

Kirin Fenrir (1001780) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741516)

Has any MMO ever launched with the high end content in place?

WoW did, actually. Scholomance and UBRS were both 10-mans, and it had a large raid in the form of Molten Core. Not that I'm a big WoW fan anymore, but they had a strong launch.

Re:No thanks. (1)

Wyatt Earp (1029) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741572)

WoW launched with Molten Core and Ony, both were high end content.

Re:No thanks. (2, Interesting)

WarlockD (623872) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740982)

Been in the closed beta for a bit. You need a proper interface now a days.

Might play it more now, but the PvP has been a long time coming and I am not sure how fun it will be. I haven't been able to even get high enough to play Klingon with only 3 hour play sessions, twice a week.

Then its the way its set up. Ok I understand its an MMO, but it doesn't seem like the group abilities or classes are well balanced. Going in its hard to understand how one class helps another and all the ground fights seem to be "everyone shoot as fast as you can" kind of situations. Its not even a good "trinity" You have to make you ship do all three if you want to do any of the missions. Case in point for the ground missions where your given a bunch of red shirts if you don't have enough named crew. I have to start out as a tank type and get a science officer as I just can't get the AI to tank properly. Without a threat/dps plug in, I am not even sure if my weapons are doing as well as they should.

That's the crux of the matter now a days. In WoW I can get the Recount plug-in and Omen to figure out if one build works better than another. They built their interface, from day one, to be as configurable as possible. But in STO? They spent months telling use "The interface is the last to get developed" Really? Most of WoW's innovations came FROM the community of plug-in's. I cannot imaging playing wow without a raid grid let alone without recount. With the current interface STO has, I can't see managing more than 10 players reliably. As it is now, most "group" missions are free for all's anyway.

Its just, I kind of gave up most of the way in the beta. It was hard just playing maybe 6 hours a week. Then you go to the forms and see all the people wining about how its either not good enough or that its a wow/CO clone without giving any kind of true comparison. Sure your the captain of a star ship, but it also feels constrained somehow.

The new 3.3 patch from WoW comes out, it became fun to PLAY it. After 4 hours I finally have an 80 and doing high level stuff now. I never have to hunt for a group for heroics, no more being dropped because I can only do 2k DPS just because I am starting. I bet they will be setting up raids with this system at some point as well. Heck, even though I play Blackrock ALL THE FREAKING TIME on my 51 pally, at least I can GO there. I always skip it because I could never find groups for it.

STO have been arguing for the last 6 months about how "the interface is the last to be implemented" That kind of thinking is the reason most people get turned off in the first week of a MMO:P

cool (5, Funny)

JeanBaptiste (537955) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740460)

one side filled with kirk and spock and picard wanna-bes.

and the other filled with the klingon speakers.

so, uh, who is gonna run the internets while you all are gone?

Re:cool (5, Funny)

Kirin Fenrir (1001780) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740568)

4chan

...oh...oh God...

A Quote from the "General Gameplay" FAQ (4, Interesting)

RobotRunAmok (595286) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740474)

"Where possible, the game will provide non-violent ways to resolve conflicts."

So in other words, this is Picard-style Star Trek. You Kirk-style players can stay logged into Eve.

Re:A Quote from the "General Gameplay" FAQ (1)

dilemmachine (1708584) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740570)

Aww c'mon. Kirk resolved *plenty* of conflicts without throwing people across the room. :D

Re:A Quote from the "General Gameplay" FAQ (1)

Target Practice (79470) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740700)

Yes, but it usually involved getting them into bed. And if you're talking about his convincing debating skills, you'll notice it's always in ear shot of some hottie he's after.

Re:A Quote from the "General Gameplay" FAQ (1)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741296)

So eve hasa da green ladies?

Re:A Quote from the "General Gameplay" FAQ (1)

TheSpoom (715771) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740582)

As long as I can yell "KHAAAAAAAAAAAN!" through the voice chat, I'm happy.

Re:A Quote from the "General Gameplay" FAQ (3, Informative)

CountZer0 (60549) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740682)

You can....

If you pre-order the special Digital Deluxe Edition (http://atari.com/games/startrek_online_digital_deluxe_ed/download) one of the bonus features is:

Exclusive “KHAAAN!” Emote (in-game item): An unforgettable moment from the second Star Trek Film. This exclusive emote allows players to relive Kirk’s unforgettable moment of fury, with the timeless cry “KHAAAN!”

Re:A Quote from the "General Gameplay" FAQ (1)

Salamande (461392) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740830)

Holy shit, I thought you were joking. That is brilliant.

Re:A Quote from the "General Gameplay" FAQ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30740760)

Is that as in "LEEEEEEROY JEEEEEENKINS!!!"? ...
Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING. ...

No... Really?

Re:A Quote from the "General Gameplay" FAQ (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740780)

Picard Trek conflict resolution:

1. work it out in holodeck sim which spills into reality
2. Go Borg and assimilate your enemies
3. clap hands Q style, and setup your enemies with a show girl on each arm and a cigar in hand

Re:A Quote from the "General Gameplay" FAQ (1)

furby076 (1461805) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741504)

"Where possible, the game will provide non-violent ways to resolve conflicts."

Wait, a player will have weapons and technology of war available to him which makes our most advanced technology seem like a stone tipped spear, and the player is expected to resolve a conflict non-violently? WTH, was this game designed by Quakers?

Reboot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30740484)

Anyone else sick of hearing the term "Reboot" in reference to movies for one week?

Re:Reboot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30740714)

Actually, Reboot [imdb.com] could use a reboot now that you mention it.

New voice over? (1)

The Yuckinator (898499) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740504)

Space. The online frontier. Where everyone will be, all the time.

testing something for work (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30740574)

test

Wait a sec (0, Flamebait)

marto (110299) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740578)

No Linux version? Even Second Life has a Linux version.

DaHjaj 'oH QaQ jaj vaD chaH Daq Hegh!

Open Beta Without Preorder (2, Informative)

SighKoPath (956085) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740634)

If you didn't (or don't want to) preorder, you can get a beta key from fileplanet: http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/star-trek-online/ [fileplanet.com]

Not free on fileplanet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30740720)

It's not open there either, you have to pay fileplanet for a "subscription" to get a key.

This is NOT an open beta, more like "restricted beta."

Re:Not free on fileplanet (2, Informative)

vbraga (228124) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741204)

There's a small "No thanks" option on the bottom. Click on it and no subscription is needed.

Re:Not free on fileplanet (1)

nuclearpenguins (907128) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741294)

I just did a Twitter search for "Star Trek Online open beta" and I found a site that was giving away keys. You could try that.

Re:Open Beta Without Preorder (2, Informative)

spire3661 (1038968) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740854)

Which still requires you to pay money for a fileplanet subscription, which of course they dont tell you until you give them your email address and agree to let fileplanet and cryptic spam you.

Re:Open Beta Without Preorder (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30740944)

I just registered with a spamgourmet mail address and grabbed a BETA key without having to pay anything or enter any details about myself.

The download is 7.7GB though and fileplanet is only giving me 55kB/s, so this may be a restriction for trying the beta without paying for a fileplanet subscription.

Re:Open Beta Without Preorder (2, Informative)

doob (103898) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741382)

Are you assuming or have you actually tried? I got my beta key just now using my free Fileplanet account. Maybe it's cos I've had the account for ages, I only ever use it to get freebies :)

*Open* Beta? (-1, Redundant)

ChinggisK (1133009) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740658)

It is not an *open* beta if I have to preorder the game to get in.

Re:*Open* Beta? (2, Informative)

SighKoPath (956085) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740738)

Re:*Open* Beta? (1)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741404)

Wait wait wait... so the guy pointed out that there is an open beta where you do not have to pre-order and hes a troll? WTF?

"open" != "free" (4, Insightful)

KingSkippus (799657) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740918)

An "open" beta means that you have the means by which to join the beta without them selecting you. It doesn't mean that it's necessarily free. It is as opposed to a "closed" beta which means that you can only join by their specific invitation, and that it is entirely likely that no matter how badly you want to join or how much money you have to spend (well, barring buying the entire company), you won't be able to get in.

If you have learned anything from the open source movement, it should be that "open" != "free." You can be charged for open source software, just as not all software that is free (as in beer) is open source.

after you conquer all of cardassia, (3, Funny)

CKW (409971) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740690)

..how will you feel when they tell you -- it wasn't a game!

Or when the old fogey in the space car comes to get you, because you're the best and only you can command the fleet and save the galaxy?

Why am I stuck at work T_T (1)

sajuuk (1371145) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740692)

Installed last night, can't wait to get out of work today and go waste the rest of my day on it.

finally i can live out my dream (1)

nimbius (983462) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740820)

as a crewmember aboard the starship enterprise, boldly going where no one has gone before, standing at attention and furthering discovery for years and years in my sharp new red uniform.

Re:finally i can live out my dream (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30741448)

as a crewmember aboard the starship enterprise, boldly going where no one has gone before, standing at attention and furthering discovery for years and years in my sharp new red uniform.

Do you know how Star Trek and WoW are alike? "If its red, its dead."

Already a disappointment (1, Insightful)

Max(10) (1716458) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740870)

Cryptic live up to their name, I searched their site in vain for this [wikipedia.org] :

Cryptic has announced that they will release a Windows version of STO, and a possible console version also. During the August 10 Las Vegas conference, Cryptic announced that there would be neither Linux nor Mac versions for the original launch, though they did not rule out the possibility of later port releases.

They were just trying not to infuriate the Fek'lhr [memory-alpha.org] worshiping Linux fans, but the truth is that they will never release a Linux or Mac version of STO. After watching the trailers and finding out that there would be no Linux or Mac versions, Captain Picard decided to share his feelings about STO [youtube.com] .

Re:Already a disappointment (5, Insightful)

Knara (9377) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741274)

I'm trying to figure out why people are continually surprised when non-Windows MMO clients are not available. You want to have a high percentage chance of being able to play a non-console, non-browser based game, get a Windows machine. End of story.

Crazy system requirements (1)

Lonewolf666 (259450) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740888)

System Requirements

OS: Windows XP SP2 / Windows Vista / Windows 7 (32 or 64-bit)
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 Ghz or AMD Athlon X2 3800+
Memory: 1GB RAM (minimum)
Video: NVIDIA GeForce 7950 / ATI Radeon X1800 / Intel HD Graphics
Sound: DirectX 9.0c Compatible Soundcard
DirectX: Version 9.0c or Higher
HDD: 8GB Free Disk Space
Network: Internet Broadband Connection Required
Disc: 6X DVD-ROM

Recommended System Configuration

OS: Windows XP SP2 / Windows Vista / Windows 7 (32 or 64-bit)
CPU: Intel E8400 Core 2 Duo or AMD Athlon X2 5600+
Memory: 2GB RAM+
Video: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 / ATI Radeon HD 3850+
Sound: DirectX 9.0c Compatible Soundcard
DirectX: Version 9.0c or Higher
HDD: 8GB Free Disk Space
Network: Internet Broadband Connection Required
Disc: 6X DVD-ROM

The minimum graphics alone leave my 2 1/2 year old midrange CPU in the dust (it is a NVidia 8600 GT).
I guess Cryptic is not really interested in reaching a really large audience ;-)

Re:Crazy system requirements (1)

Knara (9377) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741332)

CPU != Video card

And the 7950's came out in 2006

So yes, generally, to play new PC games you will need a video card that is less than 4 years old.

Your 8600 qualifies (released a year after the 7950's).

What are you complaining about, again?

Re:Crazy system requirements (1)

Chas (5144) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741424)

GPU. Not CPU.

And an 8600 is perfectly acceptable. They're not talking about graphics horsepower for the most part (though an 8600 should be fine there too). They're talking about supported APIs.

Re:Crazy system requirements (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741440)

The 8600 is plenty fast enough to be comparable to a 7950.

At any rate, the published minimum specs are grossly higher than what the game actually needs according to what a bunch of the closed beta testers said they needed. The only caveat is that ATI cards are more problematic than nVidia cards for some reason.

Star Wars: The Old Republic (-1, Troll)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740910)

Star Wars: The Old Republic will crush this game. SW:ToR won't be out until October, but it will be the final nail in the coffin for this game.

Re:Star Wars: The Old Republic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30741052)

Easy, Chewie.

Re:Star Wars: The Old Republic (1)

FileNotFound (85933) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741122)

Apples and oranges. SW:ToR does not have space ships.

Re:Star Wars: The Old Republic (2, Informative)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741198)

Star Wars: The Old Republic will crush this game. SW:ToR won't be out until October, but it will be the final nail in the coffin for this game.

I read last night that it's been delayed until Spring 2011.

Re:Star Wars: The Old Republic (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741336)

Where did you read that?

Re:Star Wars: The Old Republic (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741476)

Yes, it is safe to assume that a Star Wars MMO will be a smash hit that lives forever. After all, Star Wars Galaxies is still an unstoppable juggernaut, right?

Re:Star Wars: The Old Republic (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741628)

They've hired some strong vets down in Austin who have worked on MMOs for years and years, including the first major MMO in Ultima Online.

Bioware is behind this. They're promising to bring their style of single-player story arcs to the MMO genre. They said they were not going to do an MMO until they were convinced they could do it right. Like Blizzard, they are a studio that holds themselves to a pretty high standard.

The "trailers" are nothing short of amazing.

They're focusing on an era that many fans love, and haves tons of Sith and Jedi, where as Galaxies mishandled Jedi.

Galaxies was pretty bad to begin with, but had some fans. They they completely changed the game to try and appease people who didn't like it, and in the process alienated the few who did like it.

E4!. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30740912)

mory3 grandiose so that you don't

Collect 10 tribbles (1)

PmanAce (1679902) | more than 4 years ago | (#30740916)

Ooooh, can't wait to go collect x tribbles to earn some cash. On second thought, nah.

Re:Collect 10 tribbles (1)

dilemmachine (1708584) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741372)

Why do you need to *collect* tribbles? Once you get infested by them, they crawl all over the ship like rats.. :/

Re:Collect 10 tribbles (1)

Abstrackt (609015) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741446)

Ooooh, can't wait to go collect x tribbles to earn some cash. On second thought, nah.

Mccoy: "Well the nearest thing that I can figure is that they're born pregnant – which appears to be quite a time-saver!"

Once x = 1, the rest should take care of itself!

500 Internal Server error? (1)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741192)

Now there a promising start for a "M"MORPG.

Why old Star Trek? (0, Troll)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741210)

I don't get it. We've just seen a complete reboot of the Star Trek franchise on the big screen. It introduced a new look and feel, new pacing, and raised the bar for both action and special effects set in the Star Trek universe. Myself, I found it enjoyable but ultimately braindead (and thus a big disappointment, compared to Roddenbery's original vision) -- but last I heard it did considerably better than the last several movies based on the TV series. A sequel seems inevitable, and probably at least two sequels. And so they spend months developing an MMO based on the same old, tired version of Star Trek that mainstream audiences had almost completely lost patience/interest in? Whose idea was that?

Re:Why old Star Trek? (2, Insightful)

jmauro (32523) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741428)

It's been in development for 5 years, the new Star Trek has only existed for about 2 and didn't really exist until earlier this year. It's a matter of timing in the development cycle.

And it's Next Generation so there is no analog for the new universe, yet, of course.

yay (1)

Jesterace (914041) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741218)

I got my closed beta access, just gotta wait to get off work to download and try it. The only other game I'm excited about is the upcoming Lego Universe.

PvP question... (5, Funny)

end15 (607595) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741246)

Every time I turn my PvP status to "on" my shirt turns red... What's the deal?

Re:PvP question... (2, Funny)

furby076 (1461805) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741574)

Every time I turn my PvP status to "on" my shirt turns red... What's the deal?

You also forget your first name. No really, try it, and then see if you can remember your first name...ensign pike.

Re:PvP question... (1)

cptnapalm (120276) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741584)

Good news!

It is time to beam down to the planet.

You will be an integral part of the away team where you will play a pivotal roll in the exciting conclusion to the mission.

Is this an improvement on the Teletype version? (3, Funny)

mbstone (457308) | more than 4 years ago | (#30741478)

From Super Star Trek [berlios.de]

"The short-range scan gives you a considerable amount of information about the quadrant your starship is in. A short-range scan is best described by an example."


          1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
          1 * . . . . R . . . . Stardate 2516.3
          2 . . . E . . . . . . Condition RED
          3 . . . . . * . B . . Position 5 - 1, 2 - 4
          4 . . . S . . . . . . Life Support DAMAGED, Reserves=2.30
          5 . . . . . . . K . . Warp Factor 5.0
          6 . K . . . . . * . . Energy 2176.24
          7 . . . . . P . . . . Torpedoes 3
          8 . . . . * . . . . . Shields UP, 42% 1050.0 units
          9 . * . . * . . . C . Klingons Left 12
          10 . . . . . . . . . . Time Left 3.72

"You may abandon the Enterprise if necessary. If there is still a starbase in the galaxy, you will be sent there and put in charge of a weaker ship, the Faerie Queene.

The Faerie Queene cannot be abandoned.""

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