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Bing Gaining Market Share Faster

kdawson posted more than 4 years ago | from the maybe-it's-the-chinese-sounding-name dept.

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sopssa sends along a TechCrunch report on comScore qSearch numbers indicating that Bing is currently gaining market share faster than ever before. "In December, Microsoft's search engine gained another 0.4 percent to capture 10.7 percent of US search queries. That makes five straight months of steady share gains for Bing since it launched — Bing's share is up 2.7 percent in total since May, 2009. Google gained only 0.2 percent to end the month with 65.7 percent market share. What is even more interesting is if you look at year-over-year query growth rates for each search engine. Bing's growth is actually accelerating. Its growth rate in query volume was 49.4 percent in December."

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406 comments

Of course (5, Insightful)

smooth wombat (796938) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780808)

This is what happens when you make your search engine the default one for your web browser as well as make it difficult for someone to add or change this option.

Duh!

Re:Of course (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30780832)

Like Firefox, Opera and Chrome do with Google? It's not hard to change search engine in IE, btw

Re:Of course (1, Troll)

ShadowRangerRIT (1301549) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780878)

Not to mention this has been the case for years. Unless transitioning from IE6 to IE7/8 has also accelerated drastically, the GPP's explanation makes no sense.

Re:Of course (-1, Flamebait)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781202)

Yes, but when Microsoft does it it's teh ebil!! Oh emm gee! EMBRACE, EXTEND, EXTINGUISH!!

Re:Of course (4, Funny)

PaladinAlpha (645879) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781324)

Yes, I've always found it difficult to click the picture of google with the drop-down arrow and select another search provider from the many options present. And even worse is when I want to add another one, like MS's latest cash cow, requiring me to then click "Manage search engines..." and then "Get more search engines". Whole thing is counter-intuitive, I tell ya.

On the gains, didn't something happen recently to lock a lot of smartphones into Bing? Can't remember the article.

Re:Of course (3, Informative)

dougisfunny (1200171) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781370)

a bunch of Verizon blackberrys

Re:Of course (5, Funny)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781326)

Like Firefox, Opera and Chrome do with Google? It's not hard to change search engine in IE, btw

Hey....

Shut up.

Re:Of course (1)

Gerzel (240421) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781464)

And all the OS's that include those as their default browser over IE and the vast market share those OS's have.

Re:Of course (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30780918)

mod that up - dead on

Re:Of course (5, Insightful)

kjart (941720) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780936)

It's actually pretty easy to change providers in IE - you just click on the drop down beside the search field and select 'Find more providers'. Brings up a page with numerous other search providers you can add (Google, ebay, etc). Also, I think if you go to google manually in IE, there is a prompt in the top right to switch (or at least there used to be - not sure if they killed this).

Also, if you were to apply the same logic, the marketshare gains by google would be non-trivial since they are the default homepage/provider in Firefox. Personally, while I do think the defaults do influence things, I also think you are overstating them slightly. Google's brand alone assures that a lot of non-savvy computer users will still go there despite defaults in their browser, simply because 'google' has become synonymous with 'search' to a large extent.

Re:Of course (5, Insightful)

Kadin2048 (468275) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781064)

I did this a few weeks ago and Microsoft makes it intentionally difficult — first, most casual users don't even know that the "Find more providers" list is there. Second, it's not obviously clear that you'd use the "Find more providers" option to change providers; i.e. get rid of Bing completely and use Google instead, rather than add additional options to the menu. Third, if and when you do get to the Microsoft page of search providers, when I went there, Google wasn't even on the front page. It took a number of subsequent clicks to even find it, which seems totally inappropriate given Google's popularity.

This is 100% the usual Microsoft monopoly-leveraging SOP.

Re:Of course (3, Insightful)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781166)

So, clicking the drop down next to the search bar in IE, and selecting 'manage search providers' or whatever it is, is more difficult than clicking the drop down next to the search bar in FireFox and selecting 'Manage Search Engines'.

Funny, their methods seem identical except for Firefox has its drop down on the left, MS is on the right, and there's a bit of synonymous noun/verb switching.

Re:Of course (5, Informative)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781182)

Oh, come on. The first time you run IE8 it prompts you to pick a search provider or to use the default of Bing- and it keeps prompting every time you launch until you make a choice or tell it to go away. It lists Google right there, no need to search for more providers. It really can't be made any easier than that.

For an existing install, I can't say as I haven't tried it. But it seems odd to me that the first run would have data that a subsequent run would not.

And another thing (5, Informative)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781268)

MSDN is now powered by Bing too. So every windows programmer in the world is now making Bing queries by default. That's got to boost things a bit.

Re:Of course (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781380)

Really?... sounds EXACTLY like adding bing as a search engine in firefox...

Re:Of course (1)

BlackSnake112 (912158) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781486)

Google is on the first page for the 4 machines I just tried it on.

Also if one read the stupid wizard instead of clicking straight through, they have a chance to change the default search providers the first time they start IE. Option 1 is select all defaults, option 2 is custom. Then select an option to bring up a page allow one to select the search provider.

Re:Of course (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781068)

And here's how that goes down with Joe Sixpack, and why it works.

"It's actually pretty easy to change providers in IE - you just click on the drop down beside the search field and select 'Find more providers'. Brings up a page with numerous other sea- Bah too complicated."

Re:Of course (1)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781388)

Assuming that Joe Sixpack knows that "Find more providers" really means "Change search engine"...and then after he;s added google via the tortuous web page he can navigate his way around to change the default setting (most users I've seen select google from the drop-down list and assume it changed the default - which it ought to, but this is Microsoft). And assuming he didn't install windows live or anything like that which will change it back again...then yes, it's really easy to change.

Re:Of course (1)

Gadget_Guy (627405) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781488)

So what is the answer? Make the interface to only allow Google to be added? Seems a bit unfair on the other search engines out there.

Re:Of course (1)

Idiomatick (976696) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781404)

One thing I noticed was when you get something from Windows live including MSN messenger, movie maker or like 15 other products. Is that towards the end of the install it offers to make bing the default search provider and ("make it impossible for this to be changed back"). Which seemed a bit worrisome. I mean, it was easy to un-check but still.

Re:Of course (1)

GerardAtJob (1245980) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781452)

Perhaps you know how to change the default search engine... but I can garantee you that 75% (AT LEAST) of all computer users DOESN'T KNOW HOW... Even if the buttons/options are correctly labeled...

Re:Of course (0, Troll)

SpaceGhost (23971) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780956)

I had an error with installing an Exchange Certificate on a winmo smartphone. I was surprised to find a google search returned no hits from M$ itself, but when I switched to bing, it worked. It seems that M$ is blocking google from searching it's site. Then after installing XP on another computer, and updating everything (since she wouldnt) I found that in the newest IE I couldnt use google as my search, the "easy" way of adding it was gone. So sure, M$ still knows how to play the game. I didn't see anything that made bing better though, and with the Search Cloudlet firefox extension I see no reason to change, although apparently there will be times when I will have no choice.

Re:Of course (4, Interesting)

Gadget_Guy (627405) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781432)

I was surprised to find a google search returned no hits from M$ itself, but when I switched to bing, it worked. It seems that M$ is blocking google from searching it's site.

Really? I just copied the phrase from your post "Exchange Certificate on a winmo smartphone" into Google and the first result [microsoft.com] was a technet article at Microsoft. The best that Bing could do with the same phrase was some press release stuff about the phones (at least on the first page).

I know the results vary depending on your country and phase of the moon, but it seems a bit premature to suggest that Microsoft are blocking google when a million other test searches could easily prove that wrong.

Then after installing XP on another computer, and updating everything (since she wouldnt) I found that in the newest IE I couldnt use google as my search, the "easy" way of adding it was gone.

In other branches of this thread, everyone else has already mentioned the Find more providers [ieaddons.com] option (which really doesn't seem that hard), but what "easy" way has been removed?

Re:Of course (1)

Unequivocal (155957) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781484)

I search Google all the time and get MS knowledge base articles coming up frequently as well as links to other parts of their site. So, no, MS is not blocking Google from their site. Your search probably just had more relevant first page links from other sites, for whatever reasons.

Re:Of course (2, Interesting)

blanck (1458239) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780960)

Indeed, this may have more to do with an increase in adoption of Windows 7 than other factors.
I prefer Google for straight up search, but Bing is nice for some specialty searches, e.g. hotels with price comparisons.

Re:Of course (2, Informative)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781186)

Have a look at Google Squared [google.com] for those searches ... it's pretty cool, although you need to add a price column yourself.

Re:Of course (1)

caubert (1301759) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781492)

I like Bings image search better. Still use both, Google and Bing. And I agree, w7 has increased the popularity of Bing.

Re:Of course (4, Insightful)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780964)

It also helps if you're willing to PAY people to use your search engine... Publisher's Clearing House sends me a daily email with a link to a Bing page, offering me a chance to win VALUABLE PRIZES by searching. What I've always said: "Anybody can generate $1 million in revenue, if they are given a $2 million marketing budget to do it with." Like our current job creation which is driven almost completely by government deficit spending, I'm not sure increasing search engine market share really counts if you are losing money on every search.

Re:Of course (1)

Moridineas (213502) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781082)

Is it really hard to change your browser in IE7/8? I would have said it was just as easy to change the search provider in IE as it is in Firefox. What makes you claim that it's "difficult to add or change this option" ??

Re:Of course (1)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781146)

This is what happens when you make your search engine the default one for your web browser as well as make it difficult for someone to add or change this option.

How is it hard to change the default web browser for IE? It takes less than 5 seconds to do.

Re:Of course (1)

thePowerOfGrayskull (905905) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781148)

Because it's not like when you first run IE, it prompts you if you want to change your default search provider or anything.

Oh wait. It does.

Re:Of course (1)

BrianRoach (614397) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781192)

Including Verizon, which MS paid to change the search on all their smartphones to bing (including blackberry).

Without telling their users, or offering a way to opt out.

Oh, and on several (including blackberry) it changed the search field in the browser app to ONLY use bing. You can't change it back or to a different one.

So yeah, I would expect their usage went up a couple points.

Re:Of course (1)

lorenlal (164133) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781270)

Also - If you go to to weather.com, it now uses Bing for the weather radar. Does that factor into this at all?

Re:Of course (2, Interesting)

Jackie_Chan_Fan (730745) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781292)

Come on. Just admit you dont like microsoft. It is very easy to change the default search engine in IE and Firefox. BTW Firefox comes default with google...

If firefox can default to google, IE can default to bing.

Both can be changed. There is little difference, just microsoft hate.

When you're at the bottom, the only place you can (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30780814)

When you're at the bottom, the only place you can go is up.

yes! (2, Insightful)

nomadic (141991) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780816)

Go Microsoft!!!

Re:yes! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781024)

Flamebait? Way to go, mods. OT, but why doesn't Slashdot work in Chrome?

Sure... (5, Insightful)

TrippTDF (513419) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780830)

When you pay off everyone and their brother to default to your service, you'll pick up a little momentum...

Re:Sure... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30780922)

Including people who use Bing cash. The people I know who use Bing use it only to shop for things they can get Bing cash from. This is a whole new dimension to "paying people off" in order to get them to use your product.

Re:Sure... (1)

grahamsz (150076) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781094)

I actually prefer Bing's product search to googles, i think they do a better job of presenting stuff. Otoh i use google for all my searching.

That being said, I wouldn't have used bing in the first place if it weren't for the cashback. Earned $455 to date.

Re:Sure... (5, Insightful)

Lunix Nutcase (1092239) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781160)

You mean like with Google and Firefox?

Bing is pretty good (5, Interesting)

DogDude (805747) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780834)

Bing is actually pretty darn good. They don't have the countless integrated features that Google has, but for good, solid search results, in some cases, Bing returns better results than Google. Where I work, people there have set about half of the desktops' home pages to Bing, with the other half being Google.

Re:Bing is pretty good (4, Insightful)

johnlcallaway (165670) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780912)

Bing is annoying as hell, and I will never use it on purpose. There are way too many websites that seem to create hover points for every other word in an article, so Bing pops up all the time. Which could also account for their 'increased search results' .. people accidentally getting bing results because of hover points in web pages.

Re:Bing is pretty good (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781498)

These are all valid concerns unless of course Google implements such features then Bing has a new set of issues.

Re:Bing is pretty good (1)

lorenlal (164133) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781308)

Wasn't there a story about results in Bing being manipulated not too long ago? [slashdot.org]

Re:Bing is pretty good (1)

jgtg32a (1173373) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781402)

I don't make a habit of searching for reasons to hate MS so meh

Re:Bing is pretty good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781386)

Really? I have used it several times, as its the default on IE and I don't use IE often enough to care about changing it.. But every time I searched for something, I got frustrated and had to go to Google instead to find what I was looking for.

...it is set as default (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30780836)

no wonder... it's set as default on all the IE 8 and windows 7 installations i have made.

That's a copout (1)

DesScorp (410532) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781156)

no wonder... it's set as default on all the IE 8 and windows 7 installations i have made.

That's a copout. On IE8, when you first run it, it specifically gives you choices on things like search engine defaults, and even offers to download a list of more providers if you don't like the current choices (of which Google is one).

Re:That's a copout (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781244)

Really? That definitely didn't happen when I installed IE7, nor when I upgraded from IE7 to IE8. It might happen I suppose if you do a clean install of IE8, but I imagine people doing that are in a very small minority

Market Variety (3, Interesting)

Thunderstruck (210399) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780842)

While we should probably be happy to see more than one viable candidate for the search engine market, none seem to address privacy very well. Both Bing/Yahoo and Google are quite happy to tell you that they'll track user activity and use it to make a profit. Are there any viable alternatives left with more favorable privacy policies?

Re:Market Variety (5, Informative)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780890)

Not alternatives, but Scroogle [scroogle.org] hides your searches among thousands of others (and removes Google's click-tracking javascripts and so on).

How much would you pay for it? (4, Interesting)

grahamsz (150076) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781162)

Obviously the costs of operating a search engine are pretty significant and the market for people who'd pay for privacy is quite small. I suspect it'd need to be in the $20-50/month range, and i think that would deter a lot of people.

Little in life is free, and businesses that run on millions of dollars of hardware and fast internet connections are going to need to finance that.

In any event, if i'm going to have to deal with ads online then i'd PREFER that they were tailored to things i'm interested in.

Re:Market Variety (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781176)

Goatse Search Beta [goatse.fr] , you can find anything there.

Re:Market Variety (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781382)

www.ixquick.com claims to be a privacy friendly search engine. The search results are not up to google standards, but good for searching things like: "flowering time for Kali Mist"

Look, it's actually not bad (2, Informative)

sc7 (1141597) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780844)

I run all OSes, Linux, Mac, Windows, and I set Bing as my default browser where ever I can. I can accept when Microsoft does something well (I also have a Zune HD). Bing is a great search engine, I find for specific queries, especially academic searches, it provides more accurate, as well as seperated results. Go ahead, type in "Honda Civic", and watch how it divides it based on more specific topics related to the car. The mighty Google has stagnated on its search engine like MS did on IE6 for too long, I'm glad to see some competition, and glad to see Microsoft trying again (as they are with IE8/9 and Windows 7).

Re:Look, it's actually not bad (4, Interesting)

superstick58 (809423) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780930)

I haven't used the basic search much, but I've been much happier with the maps tool. I used to use google maps, but bing has been much more accurate and up-to-date with maps for some locations. I'm tired of searching for an address I know exists, but get no results because it was built in the last 2 years. So bing increases their market share not just with search, but with their other services as well.

Re:Look, it's actually not bad (1)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781066)

This is also true for me. Google Maps can't even show satellite images closely, while Bing's maps tool has close-up bird-eye views and a lot more info about businesses and places.

Google is starting to lag behind.

Re:Look, it's actually not bad (2, Interesting)

clampolo (1159617) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780966)

Yeah, it's not bad. My main gripe with it, is having to wait for the download of their daily picture. It makes using Bing pretty sluggish as opposed to google which pops up very quickly thanks to the minimalistic page.

Re:Look, it's actually not bad (1)

MosX (773406) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781206)

You don't have to wait for the picture to load to do your search. Notice how the search box comes up before the picture?

Re:Look, it's actually not bad (1)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781280)

And even more so, who actually types in www.bing.com or www.google.com to do a search, now that every browser has a search box you just tab to? or just write the search query to address box.

Re:Look, it's actually not bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781046)

Chrome + Bing has made my life easier.

Re:Look, it's actually not bad (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781048)

... (I also have a Zune HD)....

Talk about presenting a good case and then shooting yourself in the foot....

Re:Look, it's actually not bad (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781100)

(I also have a Zune HD)

OK, now we KNOW you're a troll. XD

Re:Look, it's actually not bad (2, Insightful)

BuckaBooBob (635108) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781234)

Setting Bing as your default browser?

Hmm.. Are you for real? Bing is a search engine... Firefox/IE/Opera/Safari ect are browsers..

So before your first sentence is complete I have deducted that you have nothing of value to say what so ever since you seem to be unable to differentiate between a browser and a search engine.

Re:Look, it's actually not bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781460)

You must work for MS$...
      I won't use Bing..In fact, I will continue to boycott their product because I don't want Microsoft to kill off all competition which is their ultimate goal Imagine a world where MS$ controls all search content. They will make sure you only find what their sponsors want and choke off all independent developers, blogers and anything else they can control.

Re:Look, it's actually not bad (1)

Angst Badger (8636) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781470)

Not that I'm remotely a fan of Microsoft or their business practices, but to the extent that they do compete on their merits, they don't always suck, and Google could certainly use some competition. I haven't tried Bing yet, but I'll get around to it eventually, and if it's better than Google, at least for some things, I'll use it. And quite frankly, I have been increasingly dismayed by Google's search results lately, which seem to be slanted more and more to driving sales. That would be fine if the only thing I used search engines for was finding products, but I'm often looking for actual information.

In any case, market competition is usually beneficial to the consumer, and having a market overwhelmingly dominated by a single player is usually bad for the consumer. Even when the dominant player is reasonably ethical, as Google is, you end up with the same situation that arises in monarchies: the current king may be a wise and just ruler, but all bets are off on his heirs. Google is a publicly owned company, and if they stick around long enough, it's a statistical certainty that their leadership roles will eventually be filled by someone less competent and/or less ethical than the current incumbents. When that happens, it would be a lot better to have many competitors ready to take their place. (And certainly, we can't count on Microsoft to play the enlightened despot role.)

As far as the present goes, though, I don't think it really matters a lot whether people find their porn and other, less popular products through Bing or Google.

Re:Look, it's actually not bad (1)

dfxk (1648177) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781502)

I call astroturfing! Go ahead and type in "heart attack symptoms" ör "Heimlich maneuver" and watch the useless information it brings up. MS sets Bing as default search and thereby kills people in need of vital information fast. You read it here first.

My first reaction... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30780858)

lolwut?

Easy to do (3, Insightful)

Smidge204 (605297) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780876)

Gaining market share for Bing is easy when you:

1) Already have the market for browsers (IE)

2) Make Bing the default search for said browsers

3) Direct all search traffic from all sites even remotely Microsoft affiliated through Bing

So what we would expect is everyone who just uses whatever is in front of them to start using Bing, because that's what Microsoft is putting in front of them.
=Smidge=

Re:Easy to do (4, Insightful)

Thornkin (93548) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780998)

Wasn't all that being done for Live Search too though? And that market share was way below Bing's and dropping. It's something more than just those 3 items.

Re:Easy to do (1)

lorenlal (164133) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781378)

Very true, but I don't think Microsoft paid enough people to lock in Live Search on their sites.

Stupid reporting (5, Insightful)

Anonymusing (1450747) | more than 4 years ago | (#30780900)

In other news, my 1-year-old child has gained massive weight and height, while I, unfortunately, have not gotten even a millimeter taller.

Google is the established leader, with a massive market share that is unlikely to grow much further. Bing is the new kid on the block, starting at zero. Of course Bing is going to grow. There is nothing else for it to do. Even if it's lousy, it is impossible for it to not gain share. This is like comparing the Zune marketshare [gizmodo.com] with the iPod.

Re:Stupid reporting (1)

Thyamine (531612) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781016)

This is exactly what I was thinking. They started out with nothing (not considering the previous MS search engine options), so of course there will be growth. Come back in a year or two's time and then lets talk about how much/litte their growth is. That's when it will be more impressive. Of course, since my Blackberry was 'updated' to allow only Bing to be the default search option, I doubt they'll have problems with getting initial numbers. But because of that type of 'marketing' I refuse to use them myself.

Strange.. (2, Insightful)

msimm (580077) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781056)

Strange right! An advertisement about the growth of Bing trumpeting the growth of Bing! And on an unrelated note, can we stop slashvertising Microsoft shit?

Re:Stupid reporting (1)

krou (1027572) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781196)

Your analogy is flawed. It only works if you and your son share a pool of height, and the gain of one could induce a reduction in the other. As it stands, your respective heights are completely unrelated, unlike Google and Bing's share of the market. I agree with most of the rest of your statement, except that the interesting point in the article is not necessarily the gaining of market share, but the rate at which it did so.

Re:Stupid reporting (1)

farlukar (225243) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781478)

News at eleven:slashdot editor posts non-story.

Strange.. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30780902)

i look after quite a few sites in the UK and Bing is nowhere, less than 1% for most of them

Re:Strange.. (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781008)

Sure, but if it increases from 0.5% to 1% usage, then that is a 100% GAIN in market share... let's see Google match that!

For IE users, Bing lockin is assured (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30780970)

It is the default search engine, when IE is upgraded/installed, and very difficult to get rid of.

Re:For IE users, Bing lockin is assured (1)

LBArrettAnderson (655246) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781188)

It takes 3 or 4 clicks to change. And none of those clicks are hidden.

Yawn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30780974)

Let me know when the Chinese attack it

Ebay cashback (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30780982)

Ebay cash back is the main reason anyone uses it.

I still like the old "Why is Microsoft so expensive?" search (which in case you didn't know, the top returns are "why Apple is so expensive")

Good (2, Insightful)

DesScorp (410532) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781086)

Google needs the competition at this point. Google search has become the Windows of search engines.

Re:Good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781426)

How so? Google crashes constantly? Google locks up the GUI when you run an application that uses a lot of CPU time? Google has little or no support for open standards and constantly re-invents existing standards but in a way that only works with Google? Google uses its 95% marketshare to prop up its various other failing business lines? Google claims competitors violate hundreds of its patents but won't actually say which ones, and instead uses those unsupported claims to force the customers of said competitors to license its products anyway? Google funds lawsuits against competitors through shell corporations? Google makes it impossible to buy a PC without Google installed?

bing = disease (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781118)

The other day I opened a fortune cookie..."Learn chinese: bing = disease".

Windows 7 Defaults to Bing on Fresh Install (1)

caffeinejolt (584827) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781122)

Makes me wonder how much if this is due to people switching from Google vs just buying a new PC (at least when I set up my Dad's PC it did). Bing market share growth [statowl.com] follows a very similar trend to Windows 7 market share growth [statowl.com] .

Do you YAHOO!? (3, Funny)

Sebilrazen (870600) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781152)

Apparently the answer is a resounding "NO."

Meanwhile, on the Internet (2, Interesting)

RazZziel (1144159) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781178)

Random websites are being mysteriously slaughtered [perl.org] .

Possible explanation for Bing's results... (1)

gklinger (571901) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781200)

I would like to know what percentage of non-technical people use IE's integrated Bing search function to search for "Google" and then click on the first link which takes them to Google where they make their actual query. Laugh if you will but I have observed this behaviour on more than one occasion.

Re:Possible explanation for Bing's results... (1)

sudden.zero (981475) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781300)

Yes, I too have seen this more the once. There are quite a few people in my office on the non-technical side who I have seen do this. I then immediately explained to them that all you need to do is type www.google.com in the address bar and click go to get to Google. I also explained to them that there is this thing called a book mark that will allow you to click a "link" if that is what they desire.

Contradicting numbers (5, Informative)

trazan (667537) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781210)

This completely contradicts two other reports from the last few days, which has Bing losing market share in December.

http://searchengineland.com/nielsen-yahoo-bing-down-google-up-in-december-33464 [searchengineland.com]

http://www.hitwise.com/us/press-center/press-releases/search-enginedec2009/ [hitwise.com]

Do More Evil. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781250)

Bing, from the Evil Empire who's slogan takes you to the dark side of searching.

Course they are, they are paying people to use it! (1)

Kagato (116051) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781320)

I use bing. When I go to buy something. I've collected hundreds of dollars from their cash back program. Outside of that, google is superior.

Hitwise (1)

DollyTheSheep (576243) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781362)

Market research fiirm Hitwise thinks [slashdot.org] , that Bing's market share is (was?) actually falling.

Once again a misleading story about Bing (4, Informative)

pdboddy (620164) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781374)

That total you see in the image in the article is for Microsoft Sites. This number includes searches from ALL of Microsoft's search boxes: Bing, Live, microsoft.com, etc etc.

If you look at the Nielsen report here: http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/nielsen-reports-december-u-s-search-rankings/ [nielsen.com]

You'll see that they list Microsofts search sites as "MSN/Windows Live/Bing Search", which is a bit more explanatory I would say.

And if you check Hitwise, where they list searches BY domain name, www.bing.com LOST 4%. (http://www.hitwise.com/us/press-center/press-releases/search-enginedec2009/)

Re:Once again a misleading story about Bing (1)

Ramirozz (758009) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781490)

I was going to ask about that... growing from where? because people assumes Bing is new while in reality it is a replacement of Live so counting from zero is like a distorted point of view. This sounds like economy... after loosing 20% of something then gain 5% at fast peace and claim WE ARE GROWING! ... lame.

How Many Real? (1)

notnAP (846325) | more than 4 years ago | (#30781406)

Trying to check on the configuration of one of my switches using its built in html interface, I entered 10.0.0.101
Switch somehow had gone back to its default IP address, so it didn't respond.
Moments later, I was given a very helpful list of search queries for 10.0.0.101 by Bing.
Thank you Bing!!! Thank you for reminding me why I prefer Firefox over IE.

EU Browsers Antitrust will fix this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30781424)

Bing is the default search engine on install.
MS have had a massing increase in new installs because of windows 7 gaining so much momentum.

Once the EU anti trust ruling is implements in March, forcing them to offer various search engines on start up, they will get to feel what competing feels like.
See here:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/16/eu-microsoft-antitrust/

i expect that the results will start flowing the other way then, unless MS spend even more money on inducements / advertising to induce people to use Bing.

Ged

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