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Playstation 4 Vs Xbox One: Which Shares Better? 174

itwbennett writes "One of the new features that both Sony and Microsoft touted for their next-gen gaming consoles was easy sharing of gameplay videos. Peter Smith has put sharing to the test on both consoles, and (spoiler alert), found that both have plenty of room for improvement. There are pros and cons to each, but ultimately, which console does sharing best comes down to personal preference: 'I really hate that the Playstation 4 is limited to sharing on Facebook and I really like that the Xbox One saves to my Skydrive,' says Smith. 'But I hate having to wait for that upload to happen before I can go back to gaming.'"
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Playstation 4 Vs Xbox One: Which Shares Better?

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 15, 2013 @08:10PM (#45699363)

    Who gives a fuck, which shares better?

    The important question is; which is a better game play platform and which has the best games?

    • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 15, 2013 @08:17PM (#45699423)

      Who gives a fuck, which shares better?

      The important question is; which is a better game play platform and which has the best games?

      Agreed. I use these things to play games, not to boats my uber awesomness in gameplay to the world. Who cares?

      • More importantly (Score:5, Interesting)

        by symbolset ( 646467 ) * on Sunday December 15, 2013 @08:22PM (#45699457) Journal
        Which one seats six comfortably? XBox.
      • by SJHillman ( 1966756 ) on Sunday December 15, 2013 @08:37PM (#45699611)

        SPOILERS: The Slashdot demographic is a bit off center of the XBox/PS4's main target demographic. (In other words, MS and Sony don't give a fuck what you use it for)

      • by PopeRatzo ( 965947 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @12:08AM (#45700793) Journal

        Considering the renewed attacks on gaming videos using takedown notices, I'm not sure it matters which one "shares better".

        If it doesn't create a revenue stream in a direct way, Sony and Microsoft don't care if you have any particular feature.

        Remember, these are corporations. They would throw a baby off a bridge for a dollar.

    • by Mashiki ( 184564 ) <mashiki&gmail,com> on Sunday December 15, 2013 @08:24PM (#45699479) Homepage

      The important question is; which is a better game play platform and which has the best games?

      That's obvious, PC. All hail the Gaben. [reddit.com]

      • No, it's obviously consoles. PC gamers don't actually play games, they just play benchmarks for bragging points on their e-peens. Besides, after spending so much on their hardware they don't have money for games, that's why PC gamers in Europe and Asia are such pirates, and why PC GAmers in America are the "Only buy $5.00 games at steam sales" sorts of guys.

        And if they do play a game it's just "one" game that they play over and over and over to the exclusion of everything else. Whether it be Starcraft, League of Legends or just one map in Counter Strike... they're not "gamers" they're the electronic gamer equivalent of the guys who play touch football/basketball while insulting the other players with homophobic comments every weekend.

        • by Smauler ( 915644 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @03:03PM (#45706175)

          My Steam library is currently 152 games, a lot of those having been bought full price... EU4 was the last. You're wrong, on every one of your comments.

          • You're wrong, on every one of your comments.

            I'm wrong...in regards to YOU, that doesn't mean that there aren't Filthy PC Gamer Bourgeoisie that fulfill the stereotypes I mentioned.

            You may buy games at full price, but many of the Filthy Gabe Newell Worshipping PC Gamer Bourgeoisie here on Slashdot brag of paying no more than $5 per game... and then wonder why the PC version of cross-platform games is an afterthought.

            • by Smauler ( 915644 ) on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @12:01AM (#45711137)

              I've not met many of the "Filthy Gabe Newell Worshipping PC Gamer Bourgeoisie" here on Slashdot. The typical stereotype is open source, Linux and anti DRM. For most of Steam's existence, it's been the antithesis of all three of these things.

              The reason lots of people are supporting Steam here, as I see it (and quite a lot are, despite the DRM), is that locking down hardware is bad for the consumer, always. Paying full price for the games is not the issue.

              • For most of Steam's existence, it's been the antithesis of all three of these things.

                Oh I agree on that.

                The reason lots of people are supporting Steam here, as I see it (and quite a lot are, despite the DRM), is that locking down hardware is bad for the consumer, always.

                Well I think the "argument" comes down to either:

                1. Getting open hardware with more visible (and annoying) DRM, aka the PC

                2. Getting locked down hardware with transparent to the user DRM, that you don't even notice. AKA a console.

                I prefer 2 to 1, especially since I don't like Windows. Yes, that means my computer runs Linux but I game on the PS3/PS4.

                  Yes, there's Valve's future offerings...but that IMHO is going nowhere because:

                1. It requires a Windows machine for some games, especially if you supposedly get the low end version.

                2. Stupid controller, Any PS2/PS3 user worth their dual shock knows that "hybrid" dual-shock + mouse (or Move Navigation controller + Mouse) control works VERY well for those games that need more accurate pointing and is a proven solution that is known to work.

                3. Lack of games... you think Windows devs are just going to jump on the Linux bandwagon? What will probably happen is that SteamOS will get some native indies, a few valve provided games and you'll be expected to stream everything else from a Windows machine.

                4. I already have a 'nix based console, two actually. If developers want to develop for a 'nix based/derived console, they can already do so and have been doing so since 2006. I'm talking about the PS3 and PS4.

                Paying full price for the games is not the issue.

                Considering the comments PC gamers make about $60 games here...especially the Euro-gamers...I think in some cases it IS about price.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 15, 2013 @08:32PM (#45699559)

      HA HA HA. Best games? It's all about Hulu while streaming Angry Birds that your friends stop you playing so they can show you "just this one thing."

      *Draws on a cigar*

      Son, if people wanted to play a console for games, they wouldn't have bought a system that limits what games you are allowed to play. Everyone knows it's about chatting with friends over a webcam.

      Now you'll excuse me while I go swim in all this money those suckers gave me.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 15, 2013 @08:34PM (#45699581)

      I couldn't agree more. I don't want a game console to anything else than play games. Period. To me, when xbox started the 'entertainment' features with HULU and Netflix, it seemed most of my friends list was watching some movie. Nobody is going to stop a movie to play a game. So at that point xbox went from being a game console to another tivo. And six seats? wow who wants to peer into that tiny screen?

    • by elmer at web-axis ( 697307 ) on Sunday December 15, 2013 @08:34PM (#45699587)
      Your so not 2.0... the most important thing of new tech is how you can brag to others that you have it. - Sent from the NEW iPhone 4000
    • by master_kaos ( 1027308 ) on Sunday December 15, 2013 @08:36PM (#45699601)
      I remember when the previous gen released all my friends were extremely excited about picking up the xbox 360. This time around none of us actually gives a fuck. We might/probably pick one or the other once a few good games come out (maybe late next year) but definitely in no rush. It seems they are really pushing all this other shit when all I want are good fucking games. But neither console has even one game that is close to appealing...
    • by barlevg ( 2111272 ) on Sunday December 15, 2013 @09:19PM (#45699877)
      Agreed. If you really care about sharing gameplay videos, you're probably going to invest in a HD PVR [amazon.com] so you can control your own content, edit/annotate/narrate and upload wherever you want.
    • by BradMajors ( 995624 ) on Sunday December 15, 2013 @11:18PM (#45700539)

      The important question is; which is a better game play platform and which has the best games?

      Not to me. I never play any games on my PlayStation.

    • by bondsbw ( 888959 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @12:21AM (#45700853)

      The important question is; which is a better game play platform and which has the best games?

      To some. To others, the important question is which is a better entertainment device.

      PS4 has the edge in gaming and the XB1 has the edge in home entertainment. Both are decent at both roles and much better than their predecessors.

    • by GreatDrok ( 684119 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @03:19PM (#45706425) Journal

      "The important question is; which is a better game play platform and which has the best games?"

      Steam?

    • by jellomizer ( 103300 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @03:33PM (#45706637)

      Exactly that sharing feature is one of those big touted however, I really don't care type of feature.

      Now I see two big problems with both the PS 4 and XBox One.

      Problem 1: Subscription for more services. Yes it isn't too much, however I really don't want want an other bill to pay for, and if times get tough, games will be the first to go. the PS 4 is a bit better then XBox One is. At least I can still watch Netflix without paying Sony extra fees.

      Problem 2: Family Games. I would like to see more games fit for the entire family that they can play together. Now we don't need blood and gore to make a game interesting, the Wii U is better with this, however it really sucks as a console. Why can't I have a family multi-player game that doesn't look like I am in Baby Land.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 15, 2013 @08:14PM (#45699391)

    So now that the current generation can't make the same technological jump that the previous one did (owing to the fact that it'd probably bankrupt them this time round), the "important" stuff is secondary done-in-software fluff like sharing?

    Yeah, I know social media is where it's at, but this is depressing...

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 15, 2013 @08:17PM (#45699415)

    A PC, Twitch, and Open Broadcaster.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 15, 2013 @08:37PM (#45699615)

    Here's me thinking "filesharing on a game console?" and then it's about posting your gaming "achievements" on a "social network". To me, gaming with friends means getting together with friends and playing games. Now get off my LAN.

  • by Jah-Wren Ryel ( 80510 ) on Sunday December 15, 2013 @08:38PM (#45699625)

    Forget about sharing gaming videos.

    What really matters is which one is better for sharing video of your drunk naked wife. [gamerevolution.com]

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 15, 2013 @08:43PM (#45699653)

    Sony had a very intriguing product, PSX.

    PSX had lots of "goods" for developers; at a little 'developer studio' along a backstreet in Shinjuku I saw and talked about using PSX with Flash (MX) and other code. And I saw lots of very awesome video renders.

    Sony market PSX under Sony Corporation, not Sony Computer Entertainment! [see Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSX_(video_game_console)]

    That was then. Sad.

    Microsoft Xbox One, to me from what I read --- been able to read or find what I was not supposed to be able to read, looks on spec a lot like PSX and a little better!

    Perhaps, this time around, PSX will win.

  • To quote, from the PS4 section: "When you tap the button your game is paused and the Share screen opens. Here you'll have 3 options: "Upload video clip," "Upload screenshot," and "Broadcast gameplay." The latter starts Twitch streaming, which the Xbox One doesn't yet support, so I won't cover it today."

    So there's a feature on the PS4 to allow a form of sharing the XBOne doesn't have yet, so its not included in the line-up? How's that a fair comparison? People who want to share to Twitch should surely know that the PS4 already lets them do that *right now* and that should be included in the comparison, should it not?

  • by Bender Unit 22 ( 216955 ) on Sunday December 15, 2013 @09:07PM (#45699791) Journal

    I don't understand why people would want to watch other peoples mediocre gaming skills.
    "Look at me as a play a level in some generic shooter". zzzz
    There are a few exceptions where I want to see the graphics, maybe to checkout the gameplay or a hint/guide/learn from someone. But let's face it 99% of the gameplay videos out there are just filling hard drives with useless pixels.

    And I don't get what makes people think you would want to watch them do something as ordinary as playing a game?

    • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @12:39AM (#45700925)

      Actually the one of the guys from Penny Arcade plays at times, and while he's not very good he is interesting to listen too as it sometimes turns into a running Q&A about Penny Arcade which can be very interesting.

      Yeah 90% of streams are probably boring as hell to watch. But it opens up a lot of creative opportunity for people and I wouldn't dismiss it as worthless just because it follows Sturgeon's Law like everything else.

    • by Fr33z0r ( 621949 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @08:43AM (#45702591)
      I've only used the Xbox One, but when you record something (generally by just saying "Xbox record that" after something cool happens) it's automatically shared with your friends in a constantly updating "Friends clips" playlist. Being able to turn on your console when you get home from work and watch a highlights-reel of all the funny/weird/awesome stuff your friends thought was worth recording is a feature which is difficult to overrate.

      When you upload worthy clips, they're also shown in a playlist on the store page for that game, so rather than simply browsing to a game you're interested in buying and watching a selection of cutscenes and carefully manicured gameplay trailers from the publisher, you get to watch as many gameplay clips as you like that average gamers thought worth recording - arguably a lot more useful in forming a decision on whether or not it's a game you'd enjoy playing.
  • by klingers48 ( 968406 ) on Sunday December 15, 2013 @09:14PM (#45699843)
    Which functions better as burn tiles for spacecraft atmospheric re-entry? My money would be on the Xbox One for its greater surface area, allowing for better heat diffusion.
  • by Adult film producer ( 866485 ) <van@i2pmail.org> on Sunday December 15, 2013 @09:21PM (#45699887)
    What does sharing mean?
  • by wbr1 ( 2538558 ) on Sunday December 15, 2013 @09:29PM (#45699943)
    Which provides the largest and least lubricated sphincter dilating phallus? FTFY
  • by technosaurus ( 1704630 ) on Sunday December 15, 2013 @09:54PM (#45700091)
    I'm sorry but I will not buy another MS box that wants to charge me for access to services they don't even provide like watching Netflix or Hulu.  I've paid enough MS taxes over the years as one time expenses, buying a computer, android phone, etc... With the PS removal of "Other OS" and the Wii forcefully removing dvd playback at a hardware level, I hope the steam box drives them both under.  Till then steam gets preferred status followed by wii and games that play on an un-updated PS3 followed by games (for my kids) that are only available for kinect.
  • by Punto ( 100573 ) <puntobNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday December 15, 2013 @10:14PM (#45700199) Homepage

    The PS4 can share to twitch.tv, which is the equivalent of uploading a video clip to the "Sky drive", except the upload is done in real time. Also, I suspect Youtube opened up their live streaming feature because of the release of the consoles (especially PS4); now that everyone can share their gameplay, they want to be a viable option.

  • by jdev ( 227251 ) on Sunday December 15, 2013 @10:19PM (#45700221)
    I asked this same question when deciding what frying pan to buy. After some research, I decided that Cuisinart's lack of Twitter support was a dealbreaker and went with the Calphalon.
  • by Camembert ( 2891457 ) on Sunday December 15, 2013 @10:34PM (#45700303)
    Occasionally I notice in my Facebook feed that an acquaintance has unlocked a level in some inane IOS game. I wonder if anyone cares to read or even deliver such updates? It seems that MS and Sony think that it would be good, but it sure doesn't make my life better.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 16, 2013 @12:45AM (#45700959)

      Seems relevant:

      Nintendo of Japan President Satoru Iwata: "The primary use of Twitter and Facebook is not gaming, but a means of communication. Although I don't use either of them, if I did, I imagine I'd use it to talk about my outings and vacations to people who aren't exactly video game enthusiasts. I don't think my former classmates would care to hear about my new Mario Kart record and so on."

    • by artor3 ( 1344997 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @01:20AM (#45701087)

      It's an advertisement. It's not supposed to make your life better. It's supposed to extract money from you.

    • by Xest ( 935314 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @04:58AM (#45701815)

      Actually I think it's quite fitting, now rather than reading drivel from people about how they're new baby shat itself again or how someone broke down at some traffic lights - people whom I only begrudgingly accepted their friend requests so I don't have to answer that awkward "Why did you ignore my friends request on Facebook" if I ever bump into them in real life because I'm averse to crushing their souls by being honest and saying "Because you're really actually quite a boring, annoying, pointless person". I can similarly deliver inane shit into their lives about how I just killed someone with a defibrillator in Battlefield 4.

      I was under the impression the whole point in Facebook is to spread complete nonsense about your life that absolutely no one else gives a shit about so the question is why do you think this doesn't fit in?

      • by Camembert ( 2891457 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @05:14AM (#45701867)
        You sure have a good point.
        In my case, living in a different continent from my family and old friends I find FB nice to keep in touch and exchange pictures.
      • by Vitriol+Angst ( 458300 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @10:05AM (#45702985)

        people whom I only begrudgingly accepted their friend requests so I don't have to answer that awkward "Why did you ignore my friends request on Facebook" if I ever bump into them in real life

        The way you talk about those disgusting babies and awkward "social things" -- I'm guessing this doesn't really happen to you too often.

        • by Xest ( 935314 ) on Tuesday December 17, 2013 @04:45AM (#45712013)

          I didn't say anything about disgusting babies, you seem to be projecting your own view or something there, I just said I really don't give a shit if someone's baby has shat itself, it's uninteresting and I just don't care, and judging by the clear lack of response to such posts, I guess neither does anyone else.

          As for bumping into people from my past whom I only begrudgingly add then yes you're absolutely right, it doesn't happen too often. I always figured this was normal given that I live amongst a population of 65 million and people tend to move around.

          I guess if you bump into everyone from your past frequently you must live in some incestuous backwater hick town "Population: 200" or something?

          That would explain why you're not too bright too I guess.

    • by Vitriol+Angst ( 458300 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @10:02AM (#45702967)

      This is obviously FIXED by the fact that people who post Gaming updates on FaceBook have no friends, and they use FaceBook for gaming updates and "liking" various Pizza companies to get coupons.

      "David LIKES Death From Above Battle Ax Happy-Fun-Time" Wouldn't you want to LIKE this too?

  • by issicus ( 2031176 ) on Sunday December 15, 2013 @10:34PM (#45700305)
    get your own.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 15, 2013 @11:41PM (#45700673)

    That's all that matters.

  • by hundredrabh ( 1531761 ) <hundredrabh@@@gmail...com> on Monday December 16, 2013 @12:34AM (#45700905)

    Steam gaming machines.

  • by umafuckit ( 2980809 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @09:09AM (#45702677)
    The only reason I can think why we have the sharing button is as a misguided response to tablet and phone games. We keep hearing how casual gamers are sucked into those and diverted away from consoles (this, etc: http://www.forbes.com/sites/terokuittinen/2013/05/16/google-play-alone-about-to-overtake-entire-portable-console-game-market-wake-up-nintendo/ [forbes.com]. A lot of these iOS and Android titles have sharing features and offer to upload your performance to Facebook. Why anyone would want to do that is beyond me, it seems that Sony and MS have decided to try to integrate their consoles into the phone experience as much as possible. So now we have a sharing button and a PS4 app (http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/ps4-playstation-app-launches-for-ios-and-android). Doesn't change the fact that tablet and phone games are almost all shit, or that people will continue to play them because they're there and they're mindless.
  • by DrXym ( 126579 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @09:37AM (#45702823)
    Personally I'd be more amenable to the console that shares the least, or at least has switches that control its behaviour. I would be more impressed by a console which strikes a good balance between privacy and the ability to share and allows users to adjust it further one way or the other as they see fit. And if someone doesn't want to Tweet, Like, live cast or whatever then there should be a simple checkbox in the settings which removes all that shit from the UI.
    • by CCarrot ( 1562079 ) on Monday December 16, 2013 @01:24PM (#45705151)

      Personally I'd be more amenable to the console that shares the least, or at least has switches that control its behaviour. I would be more impressed by a console which strikes a good balance between privacy and the ability to share and allows users to adjust it further one way or the other as they see fit. And if someone doesn't want to Tweet, Like, live cast or whatever then there should be a simple checkbox in the settings which removes all that shit from the UI.

      Exactly.

      When I read the headline, my first thought was that they were obscurely talking about which console invades your privacy more (i.e., shares 'better')...disappointing to read the summary and realize they're talking about a fringe feature that only self-obsessed little wankers would care about.

  • by JustNiz ( 692889 ) on Friday December 20, 2013 @07:04PM (#45750109)

    >>> 'I really hate that the Playstation 4 is limited to sharing on Facebook and I really like that the Xbox One saves to my Skydrive,

    Translated:
    I believe you are all stupid enough to not spot the obvious inconsistency in my claiming to really hate one proprietary locked down site but loving another. I also have a vested interest in only promoting and saying good things about Microsoft products.

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