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Sandy, Utah Tops US Cities For Broadband Speed

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the short-hop-to-awesome-slc-library dept.

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darthcamaro writes "If you want to live in the city with the fastest average broadband connection speed in the US, you have to move to Utah. According to Akamai's latest State of the Internet Report, Sandy, Utah is at the top of the list for US cities with the fastest average broadband speeds, with an average connection speed of 33,464 Kbps (33.5 Mbps). Overall in the US, the average broadband connection speed in the third quarter of 2009 came in at 3.9 Mbps, down by 2.4 percent on a year-over-year basis, but that's not a major cause for concern in Akamai's view. 'The overall year-over-year decline in the US average connection speed was relatively minor,' report author David Belson, director of market intelligence at Akamai Technologies said. 'The larger year-over-year sample base may have contributed to the decline, especially as mobile usage grows.'"

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121 comments

Meanwhile... (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30793252)

...the 95+% of the world that DOESN'T live in the US yawns and goes back to surfing at higher speeds.

Seriously, can we please try to remember that this Internet thing is a global medium?

Re:Meanwhile... (4, Insightful)

Toonol (1057698) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793456)

Seriously, can we please try to remember that this Internet thing is a global medium?

...perhaps at the same time, we can try to remember that Slashdot is an American site, and the majority of readers are American.

Re:Meanwhile... (-1, Troll)

The End Of Days (1243248) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793616)

That makes it harder for the insecure foreign types to casually bash the US. Won't you think of their needs?

Re:Meanwhile... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30793924)

Really? You have statistics about the nationality of Slashdot readers? Please, do present your findings to the class.

Re:Meanwhile... (3, Informative)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794012)

we can try to remember that Slashdot is an American site

In terms of ownership and editorial staff, yes, although not so much in terms of news coverage

and the majority of readers are American.

Last statistics I saw showed more than 50% non-US readers. The US made up the larges single block, but it was not an overall majority.

Re:Meanwhile... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794230)

Hey, I saved you the effort - go to http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/slashdot.org where you'll find that Americans comprise 47.1% of Slashdot visitors. While they are the largest single block, they do not comprise "the majority".

Please check your facts, you arrogant Yankee imperialist running dog.

Re:Meanwhile... (3, Informative)

xaxa (988988) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794328)

Majority means more than 50%.

Alexa [alexa.com] reckons 47% of Slashdot visitors are from the USA.

Re:Meanwhile... (4, Informative)

lemur3 (997863) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794620)

Majority means more than 50%.

Alexa [alexa.com] reckons 47% of Slashdot visitors are from the USA.

"The Alexa Toolbar, an application produced by Alexa Internet, is a Browser Helper Object for Internet Explorer on Microsoft Windows that is used by Alexa to measure website statistics." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexa_Toolbar [wikipedia.org]

Hmm, yeah I'd totally agree, using Alexa to determine the viewership of slashdot is 100% viable.

Re:Meanwhile... (1)

adbge (1693228) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795920)

"...perhaps at the same time, we can try to remember that Slashdot is an American site, and the plurality of readers are American."

Satisfied?

Re:Meanwhile... (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#30796442)

Alexa reckons 47% of Slashdot visitors are from the USA.

That essentially means, 47% of the readers infected by Alexa are from the US. I wouldn't tout that too loudly if I was from the US...

Re:Meanwhile... (1)

earache (110979) | more than 4 years ago | (#30796562)

No it doesn't. Majority means the highest percentage. If 47% of the readers of Slashdot are from the US, you then carve the remaining percentage across every other country. Unless another country makes up another 47% and the remaining 6% is spread across the rest of the globe, the US makes up the majority of readers on Slashdot.

Re:Meanwhile... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794746)

http://slashdot.org/faq/editorial.shtml#ed850

Slashdot is U.S.-centric. We readily admit this, and really don't see it as a problem. Slashdot is run by Americans, after all, and the vast majority of our readership is in the U.S. We're certainly not opposed to doing more international stories, but we don't have any formal plans for making that happen. All we can really tell you is that if you're outside the U.S. and you have news, submit it, and if it looks interesting, we'll post it.

Re:Meanwhile... (2, Funny)

mrphoton (1349555) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794998)

that is odd, I was starting to think it was a British site. I keep on seeing a disproportionately number of stories about the UK government doing crazy oppressive fascist shit. Or may be there is another reason for that......

Re:Meanwhile... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794744)

What about the billions of people worldwide who don't have internet at all?

Re:Meanwhile... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794980)

Full of anonymous cowards that act like jerks?

Re:Meanwhile... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795806)

Several years ago before I started reading Slashdot, I didn't have any particular feelings towards non-Americans one way or the other. Basically, you were people that lived outside of my borders and you did your thing and I did mine. Woop-de-do, right?

Now that I've been reading this site, sadly because of the utterly insufferable douchebaggery of practically every comment directed towards Americans and America I have read since being here, I have developed a deep-seated seething hatred towards the citizens of practically every other country on Earth. The amount of bigotry and poison spewed by the people here particularly the European posters is disgusting. I didn't do anything to you or yours, I'm just living my life but if you insist on hating me for something as inane as the lump of dirt I was born on, then fuck you too.

Re:Meanwhile... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795950)

Wait a minute, let me get this straight, so what you're saying is that the Ameri-hate brigade has descended so far into fantasy land as to actually expect somebody to believe that 95 percent of the population of the earth enjoys internet speeds greater than 30 Mbps? Really? Really??

Please allow me to be the first one to point out that that is absolute unadulterated bullshit. And furthermore, nobody gives a fuck about whatever turd-world buttfuckistan shithole you live in either, motherfucker. Last I checked the FAQ for this site, it's run by Americans, read mostly by Americans and a good percentage of the stories have something to do with America. Personally I care about the fastest 'net speeds in the United States. If you don't, bitch, don't read the fucking story. There's a whole front page of stories talking about other things. So, fuck off.

Fair use policy (0)

IgnoramusMaximus (692000) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793278)

What the article fails to mention is that this marvelous speed is achieved by the means of a very consumer-friendly "Fair Use Policy" of the ISP which sets the download maximum at 100 kilobytes per month, "for our customers' convenience".

It is an orgasmic convergence of RIAA and MPIAA-friendly corporate stance (no music and movie pilfering possible), glorious marketing opportunity ("We are THE fastest Internet Service Provider in the USA!") and great PR ("All the national statistics clearly show us delivering most outstanding speed in the Nation!"). And it is all possible only because of the great foresight of the CEO of the ISP to replace all the useless "engineers" and "technicians" with Ivy-league educated MBAs.

Behold, for you are seeing the awesome future of US Internet Industry!

Re:Fair use policy (1)

garg0yle (208225) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793300)

MBA's are even more expensive than engineers - probably just replaced the lot with a bunch of minimum-wage high school drop-outs.

Re:Fair use policy (1)

IgnoramusMaximus (692000) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793424)

MBA's are even more expensive than engineers

You are clearly not familiar with the Ivy-league MBAs' legendary record in the area of improvement of long-term profitability of any activity they are involved in. Exorbitant wages are a key component of their "magic" and an essential element in the strategy of maximizing the aforementioned profit.

Palmface (0, Offtopic)

IgnoramusMaximus (692000) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794058)

In the light of some people moderating my above post as "Informative", I find it necessary to get drunk senseless and to run naked around the neighborhood with a pair of log-periodic antennas as antlers, looking for 666Mb/s Wireless Internet reception. I will see you on the news later...

Nice in theory, but.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30793322)

On paper, perhaps. Definitely not in practice.
I live in Sandy and have tried three (out of three available) different ISP's in three different houses, and have never been able to get anywhere near the quoted speeds I've been promised. If the capability exists, we're all being throttled to death.

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (4, Informative)

HeronBlademaster (1079477) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793528)

I'm trying to figure out what part of Sandy has an average connection speed of 33.5 Mbps, as the article says. Sandy declined to join up with Utopia, and nobody else offers fiber optic that I'm aware of. Comcast's average subscription is most certainly not their 30Mbps nor 50Mbps offering (and even if it is, nobody actually gets that rated speed), Qwest's DSL doesn't go that fast, and... who else even *offers* internet service there?

What am I missing?

Maybe it's a typo for 3.35Mbps?

(I used to live in Sandy, my parents live there, and several of my friends live there. None of my friends know where this 33.5Mbps number came from either.)

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (1)

seneces (839286) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793744)

I lived in Sandy up to last year (and still live nearby), and the best I could get without going to comcast was 3mbit DSL. Comcast offered up to 8mbit, iirc. Definitely nothing above 10 was even available on a residential plan. Has to be a typo.

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (1)

HeronBlademaster (1079477) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793932)

Comcast offers 30 and 50 Mbit connections in my parents' neighborhood, but nobody I know actually subscribes to anything higher than 12Mbps or so.

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795084)

Comcast offers 30 and 50 Mbit connections in my parents' neighborhood, but nobody I know actually subscribes to anything higher than 12Mbps or so.

With their 256GB/month cap, it would be stupid to pay for the higher bandwidth.
50Mbps would let you hit the cap in about 12 hours. Yippee!

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (1)

nevillethedevil (1021497) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793820)

As of around September of last year, Qwest started offering fiber connections in Sandy. My father in law has been looking at getting it. It's also available up here in Bountiful and throughout much of Salt Lake City.

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (1)

HeronBlademaster (1079477) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793988)

According to Qwest.com, the fastest connection they offer anywhere is 20Mbps, so that can't be raising the average as high as they say it is... and they only offer up to 12Mbps at my parents' house.

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (1)

Zyggy1 (1210688) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794286)

Actually, I think that the ADSL in that most of that area is capable of 40 Mb Down/20 Mb up. I've personally seen it.

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (1)

HeronBlademaster (1079477) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794928)

From which company? My dad would be interested.

Same (1)

G00F (241765) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794360)

I lived in sandy for about a while, and my internet was never that, and no one has speeds anywhere near this average. Think the toip tiered price that people have upgraded to is 9mbs. While I live a few miles away, I still have quite a few friends that live in that area. Besides they don't even have utopia in sandy (I should, where I live now, but its expansion has been blocked by Qwest and Comcast). All the wireless is junk.

The only thing could think of is maybe comcast cache/proxy server is grabbing pages that fast. (we have some DNS Hijacking [slashdot.org] that was mentioned a few months back.

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794404)

Mozy, the online backup service, has a data center in Sandy, UT. IIRC, they are the largest consumer of bandwidth in Utah.

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (1)

HeronBlademaster (1079477) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794946)

If they're including a data center in the consumer average, they're doing something horribly wrong.

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (2, Interesting)

jbengt (874751) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795232)

Discover Card also has a relatively large call center / data center there
I wonder if those sorts of users show up in the statistics

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (1)

headbulb (534102) | more than 4 years ago | (#30796148)

Mozy uses data centers all over Utah.

There is not a data center in Sandy that I am aware of.

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (1)

darrenkopp (981266) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795052)

wasn't sandy the FIRST place to get utopia? like 2 years go?

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (1)

HeronBlademaster (1079477) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795106)

Nope.

Best I can do in a quick google is some city council minutes [utah.gov] from 2008 where a few city residents voiced support for Utopia and wanted to know why Sandy City didn't participate.

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795112)

LOL. The funny thing about the story is Provo, UT is much faster with fiber running to every house hold. It's easy to get 100Mb under $100 or faster if you can afford it.

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (1)

HeronBlademaster (1079477) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795278)

Yeah, when I lived in Provo I paid $43/month for 15Mbps symmetric fiber, and I loved it.

I live in Seattle now, and I have to settle for Comcast :(

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (1)

jasonwc (939262) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795462)

Are their figures based on the highest available consumer broadband speeds available, the average advertised speeds of real customers, or the average obtained speeds of real customers?

Comcast offers 50/10 speeds in many locations, and Verizon offers 50/20 in most locations where FiOS is available. So, it's hard to believe that some small town in Utah has the fastest available speeds. It is however true that almost nobody subscribes to these speeds as they cost $100-140/mo and you don't get any price reductions for using their TV and phone services. Most people subscribe to the lowest or middle level of service. For example, I have Verizon's 25/15 FiOS, which in reality is 25/20. Its advertised at $65/mo but when combined with their TV service, it really comes to around $50/mo. It just doesn't make sense to jump to 50/20.

Re:Nice in theory, but.. (1)

HeronBlademaster (1079477) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795644)

Are their figures based on the highest available consumer broadband speeds available, the average advertised speeds of real customers, or the average obtained speeds of real customers?

I read TFA, which doesn't link to the actual report, and saw no indication of what their data is based on.

Average is 33 megabits .... from who? (1)

jeffstar (134407) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793328)

I googled for ISPs in sandy, utah and found the regular players offering 3mbs...

How is the average 33 megabits? Where are all these people getting > 33mbit service? Verizon didn't seem to offer fios with the addresses in sandy utah i plugged in.

Re:Average is 33 megabits .... from who? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30793360)

Sandy is part of utopia.net (http://www.utopianet.org/) which is fiber to home like fios.

Re:Average is 33 megabits .... from who? (1)

Marc_Hawke (130338) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793394)

That page used to be a lot more informative. I haven't even found the coverage map yet.

Logan isn't part of that yet is it? I just barely moved from Logan and I can't figure out how they seem to be averaging 23. I guess it might be the University and the fact that the student population is a huge percentage of the town.

Re:Average is 33 megabits .... from who? (1)

HeronBlademaster (1079477) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793640)

What? Last I heard, Sandy soundly rejected Utopia.

Check the list of member cities [utopianet.org] - Sandy is not listed.

Re:Average is 33 megabits .... from who? (1)

ScytheBlade1 (772156) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793530)

Re:Average is 33 megabits .... from who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794966)

XMission also has an Akamai cluster on site - http://stats.xmission.com/routers/public/pages/akamai.html

Re:Average is 33 megabits .... from who? (1)

HeronBlademaster (1079477) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793660)

I don't have to google Sandy; my parents live there, as well as many of my friends. I can't figure out where the number is coming from either.

Re:Average is 33 megabits .... from who? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#30796452)

Maybe that average is due to a few freakish fast connections, like some university campus with a blazing 10gbit link or something.

Shows you why statistics that only show averages without median or standard deviation are meaningless.

Re:Average is 33 megabits .... from who? (1)

HeronBlademaster (1079477) | more than 4 years ago | (#30796490)

AFAIK there isn't a college or university campus in Sandy... it's basically a huge suburb.

Re:Average is 33 megabits .... from who? (2, Interesting)

Shadow-isoHunt (1014539) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793716)

I used to live in Sandy. Comcast offers a 20mbit plan, and you can get a 100mbit link from xmission.

Was the air really thin there or something? (1)

mother_reincarnated (1099781) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793994)

So according to Xmissions website you can get up to a 7mbit DSL line in Sandy from them. In other cities (not Sandy) you can get up to a 50mb connection (for between $80 and $105/mo, so I doubt most people would opt for that).

So all in all Akamai seems to be a little off...

Who cares about speed? (1, Insightful)

ThreeGigs (239452) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793344)

Seriously, once you get to 1 mbit, web browsing is about as good as it gets. Like blinking twice as fast, you simply don't notice.
Unless you're into YouTube HD, in which case 4 mbit will be noticeable. I get my television channels delivered on a 4~5 mbit connection. Now, I can see a reason for speed with online backups, etc., but unless you're torrenting, what does your top speed really matter?

You want a car analogy? Where's the metric on which country has the fastest average top-speed per capita? Does it really matter?

What I want to know is, exactly how many people could watch the Superbowl if it was ONLY delivered via the internet. Who cares how fast the last mile is if the web servers and backbone infrastructure are way, way, WAY oversubscribed?

It all just seems like a lot of to-do over something that's not so terribly important.

Re:Who cares about speed? (1)

swillden (191260) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793556)

Seriously, once you get to 1 mbit, web browsing is about as good as it gets. Like blinking twice as fast, you simply don't notice. Unless you're into YouTube HD, in which case 4 mbit will be noticeable.

Unless you like, you know, download files.

Actually, I have 6 Mbps down and it's fine. What I need improved is my upstream bandwidth. I only get about 400 Kbps, and that's barely usable for my over-the-Internet backups. The backup of my photos has been running for over a month now, and has another month to go. I'd really like to back up my DV, but it's just impractical.

Re:Who cares about speed? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30793608)

Considering sports is a leading driver to HDTV adoption, with the "average" being 3.9Mbps, and a good advice of 20% or more headroom for streaming reliably, I'd say that at least half of broadband users wouldn't be able to stream even a 720p stream reliably at any decent quality, let alone the 10-15Mbps stream needed for a good 1080p. I usually do my DVD quality archives at around 3Mbps, for 720p usually 5Mbps is started to be okay, and for 1080, you really want at least 10Mbps. I'd say that to be honest anything slower than 10Mbps should be required to advertise as "Low-Speed Broadband" if it isn't "Dial Up". Anything faster they can call whatever they want.

Re:Who cares about speed? (2, Insightful)

HeronBlademaster (1079477) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793732)

One would assume someone going by "ThreeGigs" would want a faster connection ;)

When I buy a new game on Steam, for example, I don't want to wait for the 7GB download on a 1Mbps connection. (15.93 hours assuming I can saturate the connection.) If I have a 12Mbps connection instead, I only have to wait 1.33 hours instead.

But even if you reject that use-case (and anything vaguely similar), try having a family with two adults and three kids, all using computers and TV-over-IP and VoIP, on a single 1Mbps connection, and tell me if 1Mbps is still acceptable.

Re:Who cares about speed? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795266)

When your bandwidth cap is 4 GB, as it is for the majority of Australians, A 7GB game from steam means paying an extra $45 in bandwidth overage and then being content with an effective cessation of Internet service, via massive throttling, for the rest of the billing period.

USA = small pipes, unlimited delivery.
AUS = large pipes, pay for every extra mililitre.

or for another imperfect analogy:
USA = Golden Corral buffet, but with small plates.
AUS = large plates, but ala carte.

I didn't know how lucky I was in the States until I came down here.

Re:Who cares about speed? (1)

BikeHelmet (1437881) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794228)

4-5mbit is great, unless you have multiple people in your home.

Do you know how annoying it is playing games when people are watching Youtube or downloading email? Ping spikes from 65ms to 500ms. That's ignoring torrenting and the like.

I make do with 3mbit, because I like my DSL ISP and Cable blows here - but I really would jump on 12mbit if it was available. I download enough linux distros (FTP :P ) that I could use that extra downstream.

Re:Who cares about speed? (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794750)

My connection is 10Mb/s, while my mother's is 1Mb/s, so I got to see exactly what the difference was when I went home over christmas. It really is noticeable. For example, I read a few comics in the morning and I open them all in tabs when I wake up. On my connection they can all load in parallel in a few seconds. On hers, they load so slowly that usually one or two timed out. I can stream iPlayer content in HD on my connection, while on hers the standard quality stuff drops frames. Even downloading relatively small files (a few MBs) actually takes time, not much, but when you've become accustomed to them taking ten seconds, seeing them take over a minute seems incredibly slow. A 10MB file takes a minute and a half instead of 8 seconds, and that's a big difference.

Re:Who cares about speed? (1)

Mspangler (770054) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794752)

According to speakeasy:

Last Result:
Download Speed: 46563 kbps (5820.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 3742 kbps (467.8 KB/sec transfer rate)

That was a short hop to their Seattle location from Central Washington, so definitely best case, but it still looks cool.

I can usually sustain 3.5 MB/second downloading system updates from Apple's website. so the real world rate is less, but the problem has been slow servers at the other end for awhile now.

The connection out of the fiber-optic box is 100 Mbit, so that or the linksys box will be the slow link.

     

Two things (1)

Bazouel (105242) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793348)

1- There is nothing else to do in Utah
2- By now, they must be a virtual backup of all the pron on the net

p.s. I'm only kidding, I have never been there ;-)

Re:Two things (1)

The End Of Days (1243248) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793636)

Not that this is the most authoritative source I can imagine, but according to http://www.onlineeducation.net/porn/ [onlineeducation.net] Utah has the highest per-capita consumption of porn. I think things dovetailed nicely in my random browsing today.

Re:Two things (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794576)

I'm sorry, what. China, South Korea, and Japan beat the US in porn consumption?

Well, it's time to buckle down and get hands on with this situation so that we can come first. It'll be hard, but I'm sure soon others will also be doing their best, punishing themselves until they're red and blistered to return America to glory.

Friends, let us raise our heads and stand tall. We must get a grip on the situation before it swells to painful proportions. I know I'll be spending my weekend making America great again.

Re:Two things (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794786)

There is nothing else to do in Utah

Unless you like beer [utahbayou.com] , that is...

Whats with calling these cities. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30793350)

There is no break between towns. This is a home owners association with delusions of grandeure. Unless the news is local, I dont care what part of a town something occured in, It's SLC good enough. I dont want someone to say theyre from Marin because it's a more prestigeous part of the bay area. Or Arvada Colorado, Ft Worth Texas.
Pick the most recognizable city in a 30 mile radius.. and go with it.
I'm offtopic.. but SANDY, come on..

Sandy? (2, Funny)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793400)

They got broadband connections in San D'oria? Damn you, Elvaans!

Signed, pissed off Bastokan.

There's joke to be told... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30793420)

... something about Mormons in Utah and high-speed pr0n. Just can't think of a good one...

Re:There's joke to be told... (1)

Larryish (1215510) | more than 4 years ago | (#30796128)

Let me have a go at it...

"The only pr0n the Mormons download is kiddie pr0n."

Thanks folks, I'll be here all week. Be sure to tip your waitress.

Correction (1)

sea4ever (1628181) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793466)

Correction, Sandy *had* the fastest speed. Sorry folks, they've just been slashdotted.

Re:Correction (1)

toddvj (1074977) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793526)

So Utah is a city now?

It's cold here in Sandy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30793488)

Didn't expect to see the place that I am living to get that.

Hey, wait a minute... I'm not getting those speeds and I'm smack in the middle of the city... Hmmm... I think it's a conspiracy.

Of course the thing they forget to mention is that it's so cold here in the winter! Ok... maybe not as cold as Montana, but still!

Whoever came to that conclusion doesn't know shit (5, Informative)

rahvin112 (446269) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793510)

Sandy Utah has two ISPs, Qwest and Comcast plus the occasionally available WISP. Not a single ISP in the Sandy area offers speeds in excess of Comcasts standard 16Mbs high end package. It's absurd that some article lists the average as 33.3Mbs as I don't know a single area where that speed is available and I live in the heart of Sandy. There is Metro Ethernet available at the cost of multiple thousands but no one outside large business has it.

This apparent study of internet speeds is worthless and it's conclusions garbage.

Re:Whoever came to that conclusion doesn't know sh (1)

swillden (191260) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793698)

What about UTOPIA?

Re:Whoever came to that conclusion doesn't know sh (1)

rahvin112 (446269) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793918)

Sandy rejected admission to Utopia and has never been part of the organization. Even in areas where Utopia exists the uptake is significantly less than 50% and the only speeds available are 15Mbs and 30Mbs with two cities having 50Mbs available. Even in the Utopia cities averages of 33.3Mbs couldn't be reached.

The article has the worst conclusions I've ever seen. They claim Sandy has an average internet speed that doesn't even exist anywhere in sandy unless you are buying at DS3 directly from a telecom company like Qwest or XO. The Akami numbers aren't residential connections, either the study is garbage or the numbers are the average connection an ISP has, not individuals. Even if it were the average connection an ISP has I still don't buy it.

Re:Whoever came to that conclusion doesn't know sh (1)

swillden (191260) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794628)

I posted about this on another forum, where someone mentioned that Qwest offers FIOS service in Sandy. He didn't know the speed, though.

Re:Whoever came to that conclusion doesn't know sh (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795068)

I posted about this on another forum, where someone mentioned that Qwest offers FIOS service in Sandy. He didn't know the speed, though.

As FIOS is a trademark of verizon, its extremely unlikely that qwest is providing that service and last I heard, verizon has never deployed fios in Utah, anywhere.

Xmission UTOPIA connections (1)

butlerm (3112) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795138)

Xmission [xmission.com] has standard residential UTOPIA bandwidths of 15 Mbit/s and 50 Mbit/s - up and down. The end user links are all 100 Mbit/s Ethernet (over fiber), and you can get a 100 Mbit/s "business" connection if you want.

Re:Xmission UTOPIA connections (1)

crazyjimmy (927974) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795350)

Xmission [xmission.com] has standard residential UTOPIA bandwidths of 15 Mbit/s and 50 Mbit/s - up and down. The end user links are all 100 Mbit/s Ethernet (over fiber), and you can get a 100 Mbit/s "business" connection if you want.

But not in sandy.

Taken from: http://utopianet.org/service-area [utopianet.org]

UTOPIA's member cities are: Brigham City, Cedar City, Cedar Hills, Centerville, Layton, Lindon, Midvale, Murray, Orem, Payson, Perry, Riverton, Tremonton, Vineyard, Washington, and West Valley City.

These are the only areas which have access to UTOPIA. Xmission provides DSL connections to other locations (and free wireless to libraries and coffee shops), but UTOPIA access can only happen where UTOPIA is available.

...sadly.

--Jimmy

This makes perfect sense... (-1, Flamebait)

macraig (621737) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793540)

... since as we all know those polygamous Mormons are really really good at forming star topology networks.

That's wonderful news! Or, maybe not so much (3, Informative)

haruchai (17472) | more than 4 years ago | (#30793542)

So, according to this article, the US, the lone superpower now has at least 7 cities that have surpassed
the average Japanese or South Korean village in broadband speed.

Pour me some champagne.

Re:That's wonderful news! Or, maybe not so much (1)

evilviper (135110) | more than 4 years ago | (#30796042)

the US, the lone superpower now has at least 7 cities that have surpassed
the average Japanese or South Korean village in broadband speed.

Clearly, the Japanese and Koreans have much larger penises...

Re:That's wonderful news! Or, maybe not so much (1)

haruchai (17472) | more than 4 years ago | (#30796068)

If by penises you mean infrastructure, then, yes, I would say they are quite well-endowed.

It's not just telecom - both countries have long, stiff railway cocks as well.

We need the speed cause of the weather (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30793562)

Sandy is about 30 minutes south of Salt Lake City, and the U of U. Nice and cold and in the middle of a frozen inversion caused from being in the Salt Lake Valley. Nothing like breathing in dirt when you walk outside... Thus why I'm on my speedy broadband connection somewhere in the middle of the aforementioned city.. =]

They have to... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30793574)

have high speeds for the frequency they use dating sites even after they're married.

I know, I know, -1 Flamebait. Just subscribing to the ignorant Mormon stereotype.

Confusion about the reported numbers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794004)

I think the submitter means 32.6 megabits, as there are 1024 kilobits in a megabit.

Move to Utah! (0, Offtopic)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794256)

And please vote Orrin Hatch out of office.

Re:Move to Utah! (1)

countertrolling (1585477) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795116)

Waddya mean offtopic? As a "friend" of the content/communications cartels, you can bet he's one of the larger impediments to real wide open high speed internet access.

I live in second place Iowa City... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794424)

Its listed at 27.4Mbits. I have a Qwest fiber connection that's 20M/5M, they have a faster packages that offer 40M/5M and 40M/20M (or maybe its only 10M or 12M upload) The only other option is Mediacom cable internet, I'm not sure if the limit there is 12M or 24M.

Either way, like the guy who has family and friends in Sandy, I don't just see where they are getting their numbers. Even if every single Qwest subscriber in town was eligible for the fastest 40M speed (not all areas are covered) and subscribed to it, I'll bet the cable modem subscribers would drive down the average.

The only other thing I can think of is that students in the dorms, who are probably getting at least 100Mb ethernet, are skewing the average....

Re:I live in second place Iowa City... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794484)

Just so its clear, its not fiber to the house like Verizon FIOS, its actually fiber to the neighborhood (in my case a node about 2500 ft away) and then VDSL2 over POTS to the house.

Oh, a Utah article! (0, Offtopic)

Master_Mahan (1715524) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794546)

Cue the Mormon-phobia comments and jokes about magic underwear...

Fastest speeds? (2, Interesting)

noidentity (188756) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794626)

US cities with the fastest average broadband speeds

Is that like having a speedometer for your speedometer, to see how fast your speed is?

Akamai CDN location sampling accuracy (1)

butlerm (3112) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795322)

As other commenters have noted, there is no way this figure applies to Sandy City proper. Sandy does not have a UTOPIA deployment. The real problem, though, is that the Salt Lake valley has a large number of relatively small cities all served by the same local ISPs, and there is no reliable way that Akamai can tell which users are in which local cities to that level of accuracy. The IP addresses don't carry any more information than (roughly) somewhere in the Salt Lake valley. One would have to be in a different for that difference to start to be visible.

Salt Lake City proper isn't a UTOPIA city either, but there are several cities in the valley which are, notably West Valley City, Midvale, and Murray. So what appears is that Akamai estimated the coverage footprint of a local content distribution node (probably the one at Xmission [xmission.com] ) and estimated that the center of the footprint was in Sandy. Even though no one in Sandy City proper has that kind of bandwidth, people with UTOPIA connection (and there are many in the general vicinity) often do - 50 Mbit/s UTOPIA service is readily available, and inexpensively at that if you live in one of the original UTOPIA cities.

3.9 Mbps over the US land size (1)

JimboFBX (1097277) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795984)

Considering the size of the US in land area, having a 3.9 mbps average isn't that bad.

Average Speed Decline???? (1)

NeutronCowboy (896098) | more than 4 years ago | (#30796118)

Is no one else concerned bythe fact that the average speed DECLINED by 2.8%?? Seriously? I mean, I understand our speeds suck. I get it. But they're now declining???? Yes, yes, lotsa people have internet on their phones. Average those in, and speeds will drop. But shouldn't there be an offset by all those new amazing DOCSYS 3.0 and FIOS technologies? I guess not. US connection speeds suck, and these people are proud that they're getting worse. Fuckers.

Sandy, or Saddly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30796236)

I though it was the latter at first.

p0rn! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30796482)

So that's how Utah clinches the title for highest consumption of porn per capita. http://www.onlineeducation.net/porn/ [onlineeducation.net]

I doubt this (1)

Hachima (718971) | more than 4 years ago | (#30796596)

I live in Sandy, UT and the ONLY way to get over 22Mbps is to get Comcast's Extreme 50/10 package which is over $100 a month and it only became available 3 weeks ago. While the median income here is 80k/ year and plenty of people can afford it, I doubt 50% of the 100k people here upgraded to that package in the last 3 weeks. In Sandy, Comcast has 3 subnets you can get assigned to. One of them would only result in 40/6 speedtest results and would never result in uploads over 7.5Mbps. While connections through another gateway would result in 62/12 results. So I changed the Mac address on router until I got connected to the good network. So I've run a few hundred speed tests in the last week. I'm sure others have recently upgraded have been running many speed tests too. As they trouble shoot why they aren't getting the full speed listed they will run even more tests than normal. Which has screwed up the "Average" for results in the area I'm sure.

Ny Results (1)

dave87656 (1179347) | more than 4 years ago | (#30796654)

I just tested my results (speedtest.net)

Download: 32MB
Upload: 1.8MB
Ping: 13ms

Your mileage may vary.

Here's the link: http://www.speedtest.net/result/685154620.png [speedtest.net]

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