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The FBI's Newest Tool — Google Images

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the what-could-possibly-go-wrong dept.

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lee317 writes "The FBI recently used a photograph of Spanish politician Gaspar Llamazares as an example of what Osama Bin Laden might look like today. According to Reuters, Special Agent Jason Pack said a forensic artist had been unable to find suitable features from the FBI's database of photographs and used a picture from the Internet instead. That photo turned out to be one of Llamazares, who apparently looks strikingly similar to what the FBI thinks Bin Laden would look like with a few extra years on him. 'I am stupefied the FBI has used my photo — but it could have been anyone's — to compose a picture of a terrorist. It affects my honor, my own image and also the security of all us,' Llamazares said."

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Terrorists!!! (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794440)

We should constantly live in fear of tribal men in caves 8000 miles away at all times. It's the new American way.

Re:Terrorists!!! (4, Interesting)

DJ Particle (1442247) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794492)

We should constantly live in fear of dead tribal men in caves 8000 miles away at all times. It's the new American way.

Corrected for you. :) Even Fox reported his death in 12/2001

Re:Terrorists!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794840)

For example, I think vaginas are fucking revolting. They look like monster faces for fucks sake. They leak blood. BLOOD. And sometimes babies, little mini-people that come into this world screaming and shitting. It's both a biological oddity and quasi-mystical force of nature, and when I think of sticking my dick into one, I imagine it temporarily transitions into a multidimensional hell where up is black and down is white and people hear with their noses. And when my cock returns, it looks and feels and smells like my cock, but it is subtley transformed in some uncanny way, never to be the same again.

Re:Terrorists!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795436)

Na, bro. You got it all wrong. Pussy is the nice warm home for your cock. Smell it, taste it, love it. You should try it some time, homo.

Re:Terrorists!!! (4, Insightful)

QuoteMstr (55051) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794494)

Because we've always been at war with Eurasia?

Re:Terrorists!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794798)

What are you saying, comrade? Haven't you been keeping up with the google issues? We've always been at war with EastAsia!

Re:Terrorists!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794532)

Look, if you're not careful, those terrorists could be in your pants next. They will launch terrorist attacks against your penis and scrotum, because they HATE YOUR FREEDOM.

Re:Terrorists!!! (4, Funny)

DougF (1117261) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794974)

Hate to break the news, but for us married guys, what's in our pants has no freedom anymore...

Terrorists!!!-Butterfly Effect. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795128)

It's not the tribal man I fear. It's the crazies who listen to him, strap a suicide belt on and go blow innocents up.

Re:Terrorists!!! (4, Insightful)

daseinw (244962) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795282)

It's like we're living in "1984" and news just gets erased from the collective mind.

This whole article is odd in light of the fact that I'm pretty sure the FBI knows that bin Laden is dead. I mean the man was once releasing more videos each week than Tupac until he started toting that kidney dialysis machine through the mountains. Then... nothing.

After all, the FBI's counter-terrorism chief, Dale Watson, also http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2135473.stm [bbc.co.uk] admitted to believing that bin laden was dead eight (8) years ago.
Wait... and didn't Afghanistan's current president, Hamid Karzai, http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/central/10/06/karzai.binladen/ [cnn.com] admit to believing the same thing 8 years ago?
Wait... and didn't Israeli Intelligence also http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2002/me_terrorism_10_16.html [worldtribune.com] admit the same thing 8 years ago?

But I guess if you can keep the myth alive, then it becomes that much easier to keep support going for spending money on the current military action in Afghanistan.

spending money (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795418)

Follow the money.

Weird tax laws, weird drug laws, weird terrorist threats...

The bigger the central government the worse it is. The government that governs the least governs the best.

Re:Terrorists!!! (4, Informative)

westlake (615356) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795512)

We should constantly live in fear of tribal men in caves 8000 miles away at all times.

Osama isn't tribal.

He's medieval.

His family made its fortune in heavy construction for the Saudi royal family. Net worth $7 billion.

Chicken feed. Prince Alwaleed alone is worth $18 billion. No Saudi whatever his merit or ambition can climb higher so long as his family rules.

Do I have to tell you how this story ends?

Neither is it psychologically insignificant that building the iconic mosque or royal palace was where the bin Ladens began.

Osama has spent his entire life on the outside looking in.

Close but no cigar.

Rich List 2009 - 7# The Bin Laden Family [arabianbusiness.com]

But, Señor Llamazares is a Commie (1, Funny)

davebarnes (158106) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794452)

Re:But, Señor Llamazares is a Commie (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794568)

...Thats the real reason they used his photo. The FBI has been very openly anti-communist, and hes a popular politician. Whats the best way to get rid of an opposing politician? Call him Osama bin Laden.

Indeed (4, Insightful)

copponex (13876) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794634)

But, Señor Llamazares is a Commie

Fortunately for him he lives in a society where you can formulate political opinion from a variety of sources and not resort to a childish game of name calling and vague nonsensical grandstanding. In many parts of the world, you can call yourself a communist or a marxist or a socialist and then have a discussion about what that means.

Stateside, I bet many people would consider calling the police. But such is the state of our populace: hysterical cowards and uneducated drones, ready to plead fealty to whatever entity promises them the most convenience and security.

Re:Indeed (1, Insightful)

aurispector (530273) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794702)

Our populace has many kinds of idiots, including those that think the only reason communism has failed everywhere it's been tried is because the right people weren't in charge.

Re:Indeed (2, Interesting)

sznupi (719324) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794734)

Where it has been tried except in tribal communities and modern days communes?

Surely you weren't tricked by the claims of oligarchies that called themselves communist? (not that it can work on the scale of a country...)

Re:Indeed (1, Insightful)

Nikkos (544004) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794802)

"Where it has been tried except in tribal communities and modern days communes?" Well, if it didn't work in either of theses cases, nor in any more modern country, where exactly is it supposed to work - if at all? Please show me a society in which no participant has any desire for power, money, or both. Capitalism isn't great, but Communism has only served those who've used it to gain power and money.

Re:Indeed (4, Informative)

Tynin (634655) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794898)

Please show me a society in which no participant has any desire for power, money, or both. Capitalism isn't great, but Communism has only served those who've used it to gain power and money.

There are many small communities based off the idea of communism, and they seem to be working well enough. Here is a larger community that seems to pull off the idea pretty well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Family [wikipedia.org] My sister in law was involved with the Rainbow Family for many years and generally lived a simple life of working and providing for each other in the community. Not everything thinks of only money and power at the end of the day, just most people it seems.

Re:Indeed (4, Insightful)

wizardforce (1005805) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794992)

Where people know each other and are in a group where there is significant trust involved then Communism might be viable to a degree but the problem is that a lot of people mistakingly extend the concept to large, inhomogeneous groups that are nothing of the sort. Small groups sure, whole countries? No.

Re:Indeed (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795312)

Ding Ding! You definitely get it. Communism doesn't work for communities and countries larger than "tribes".

Re:Indeed (2, Insightful)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795120)

That's a bunch of people taking a vacation together, not a viable self supporting community.

Re:Indeed (1)

Tynin (634655) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795176)

The wiki page makes it seem like it is an annual get together thing, but that is only for the yearly Gatherings. Many people in the Rainbow family live together year round as fully functioning communities that provide their own cloths, food, education, etc.

Re:Indeed (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795260)

(Roughly speaking) How big are those groups?

Re:Indeed (1)

Tynin (634655) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795390)

Having not lived in one of these groups myself, I only have the word of mouth from my sister in law. When I spoke with her about it, I never really asked or got a clear statement as to the size of the communities. I took from her that their size often fluctuated as parts of the group would sometimes move between one of their several living sites (for a lack of a better word, I'm not even sure where they got the land from, I assume a few people in the group own the lands and allowed the community to use it). I would speculate (since you asked for "roughly speaking") that the group she was living with had between 20 to 40 people based off our conversations and one of the pictures she showed me of her place. I'm unsure how many communities they make up, or if this is in anyway representative of their average community (if such a thing can be said), nor did I get a good grasp of how the different communities operate together to meet the groups needs.

Re:Indeed (1, Insightful)

diegocg (1680514) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795276)

That's not really communism, that's collectivism. Collectivism fits quite well with capitalism, if it's people who decide themselves to share their private properties with other people. In fact this is the basis of family, the key structure of our society. Buying shares of a company is also a kind of collectivism.

Communism is a completely different beast. Communism thinks that today's human beings have been poisoned by our ugly ugly ugly capitalist society, so our society needs to forget all the bad things it knows, and be re-educated to be good socialist. That's why a dictatorship is needed (well, they don't call it dictatorship, of course) - people should not have freedom until they are reeducated, becase their minds are poisoned. Even when they think they're being good citiziens (say, you contract a worker, and pay him well), they are being opressors. It's neccesary to take away their freedom, so that they don't make bad things like that. Once the state (ruled by a few intellectuals who know what should be right and what should be wrong in a perfect socialist world) has reeducated the society, the central state can disappear (or not: Marx did not really tell what would happen then, because nobody would know how that world would be until it is created).

Of course, our society is not really broken, and the perfect socialist men does not exist. Childs who were educated to be a perfect socialist man happened to have the same defects we, the poisoned capitalists, have. In fact, those childs usually ended up being more anticommunist than the rest of people. That's why communism has always failed and will always fail, it always fails to reeducate the society, and the dictatorship which is supposed to be temporary never disappears.

Collectivity inside capitalism? I think that's a good thing. In fact, it's the one kind of collectiviy that I can imagine. There're indeed many ideas that could be tried, which don't even require to change any law. Communism? No thanks

Re:Indeed (2, Insightful)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795318)

It looks like you have heard something about Marx' works, but not much and all of it pretty distorted. Never heard of the dictatorship of the proletariat? This is how the transitional state was called by the communists themselves. The rest of your assumptions is equally distorted.

You also refuse to see that the modern society - with all its workers rights, 40 hour week and so on - was allowed because of the fear of communist revolution. Because in the 19th century working conditions really sucked and the society was quite broken.

Re:Indeed (5, Insightful)

dgatwood (11270) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794940)

The same can be said for capitalism. Indeed, all economic systems inherently favor those who exploit flaws in the system to gain power and money or goods. Even the barter system. Short of having so much abundance that everyone's needs are fully met, there will always be people who are willing to abuse the system for personal gain. It's not even clear that this would go away even with such abundance.

Power attracts the corrupt and the corruptible. All economic systems require someone to have power to maintain order the system, whether it's the judges in a tribal barter system, the leaders of Russia's communist party, the heads of corporations, etc. Therefore, abuse of any economic system is guaranteed, given sufficient time.

Re:Indeed (1, Troll)

aztracker1 (702135) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795056)

With capitalism you can use collective bargaining, what's the equivalent for the citizens in a communist society? Considering most communist societies don't allow their citizens to arm themselves.

Genetics (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795222)

I would argue it is an inherent flaw in humans.

Males are aggressive and their whole purpose biologically is to spread their seed and they have some traits to make sure it goes beyond reproduction which is arguably a little weaker. So the ones who succeed in the pursuit of power likely will spread those traits on at least as well as normal. Anyhow, I think biology encourages the traits that pushes males to hurt the system and in a more obscure way, society.

Women I've not seen or read about behaviors that add to the problem; however, I have seen plenty of promotion for their offspring over others for those who strongly associate their child's success with their own or at least make it extremely important their kids get above the others. In this sense, they are every bit as bad as the men with the same mentality (other than the two act it out differently.)

Many legit religious figures such as nuns who live a communist lifestyle do not procreate- so unfortunately, the trait most desirable they may have is not spread. Perhaps they should... and the rest of us should just adopt their babies. Seriously think about this concept. So--- why is it ok for 100s of years to fool with animals for traits but not with humans? (keep in mind "race" is more about simplistic appearances than actual genetic backing.) Ok... now you thought about that--- what about the stupid people breeding so much? genetically diseased people? should we draw a line?

Ok-- so-- we don't draw a line right? Well, then what about the big elephant in the room: overpopulation is the biggest problem in the world today. Limit reproduction, regulate it-- and we bring up similar issues again or at least the prospect that they influence the decision on who is allowed to reproduce. think about it.

Re:Indeed (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795134)

"Where it has been tried except in tribal communities and modern days communes?" Well, if it didn't work in either of theses cases, nor in any more modern country, where exactly is it supposed to work - if at all?

They are an odd case, but the Israeli kibbutzes [wikipedia.org] are some of the very few successful communist communities.

Re:Indeed (5, Insightful)

paeanblack (191171) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795098)

not that it can work on the scale of a country...

No pure ideology works on the scale of a modern country (pop > ~1,000,000)

Pure democracy doesn't work for anything larger than Ancient Athens. Democracy still has pretty good ideas that are worth implementing in a system to govern a large populace. Communism is the same thing.

Just because the US was in a 40-year penis-waving battle with a country that claimed to be communist doesn't mean anything. Open Source certainly borrows much of its core ideology from communism. Linux, Firefox, Apache, etc all seem to be working quite well for me.

You see the same thing with Socialism. "La-la-la, health care, Obama, socialism, I can't hear you!". We've had socialist fire protection service in the US for 200 years. Everybody pays, everybody is covered, and that works much better than the alternative systems of the past.

Communist. Democratic. Socialist. Capitalist. Fascist. Republican. Anarchist.

Why worry about the labels? Take the best ideas from all of them and mix them to make a system that works.

Re:Indeed (1)

couchslug (175151) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795380)

Communism fails because it must exterminate rights, such as that to private property, to exist. That's not a matter of "labels".

Communism also fails because it inherently facilitates the rise of Bolsheviks/Maoists, who are best suited to killing people who oppose Communism.

Re:Indeed (5, Insightful)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795062)

Oh, that wasn't the only reason. Add trade embargoes, cold war, foreign intervention and so on - every time a communist country emerges suddenly half of the world tries to destroy its political and economical base.

Re:Indeed (0, Flamebait)

couchslug (175151) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795502)

"every time a communist country emerges suddenly half of the world tries to destroy its political and economical base."

Makes perfect sense considering the Communist threat. Let's not get amnesia about that.

Re:Indeed! But its true - leadership is everything (2, Interesting)

bussdriver (620565) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795086)

Ben Franklin said any government is fine if it is well administered. He is correct.

All governments fall to despotism eventually as history has shown to be the case; Franklin basically stated this at the end of the constitutional convention.

No, not exact quotes, I can think beyond those; having found them before. If you want it the source quotes go find them like I did (well, I didn't have internet back then...)

--------
Grandparent is spot on. Americans don't know jack - its like brave new world; we need a term to describe this lack of civic duty.

Re:Indeed (1)

zuzulo (136299) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795262)

In point of fact, democracy has also failed everywhere it has been tried. As has every other political system so far. Nothing lasts forever, and sometimes you just have to clear the boards and start over, hopefully having learned something from previous efforts. ;-)

Re:Indeed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795518)

Democracy works, but one of the killers of almost any government is population. When density reaches a certain point, only an autocratic police state system which can respond swiftly and brutally becomes the only way to keep order. Especially if there is discontent with the people.

Look at the middle ages in Europe. When population got to a point where it was at the absolute maximum sustainable by the farming technology, life became cheap. The death penalty was handed out on a whim, and there would be zero ramifications for it, because there would be plenty of serfs to replace the ones whose bones were shattered on the wheel for that day's amusement. It took disease that wiped out most of the continent to allow for land and resources to be used for more than just minimal sustaining of the population, and this allowed resources to be used for advancing European civilization in the late 1400s/1500s.

We may be nearing such a population issue worldwide, where instead of having resources to be able to develop new things, every available source of energy has to go to keep people alive. This means the average life of a citizen or subject in a country becomes cheap, and can remain that way for hundreds of years until there is another die-off which causes a tyrannical system to not be able to continue.

This time may be soon. We have long since passed peak oil, nuclear isn't really an option, and solar and wind require so much territory. Fusion is still science fantasy with no significant improvements in the field in 40 years [1], much less even reaching sustainability as an energy source. So without improvements in energy generation, it only is a matter of time before governments become more and more despotic because it is the only way to keep order.

It is sad, but the stable state for governments is a tyranny with a ruling class, peasants, and groaning slavery. Every other form of government is just a transition to that state.

[1]: Adding femtoseconds onto zapping some hydrogen atoms wrapped in a gold case doesn't mean a production reaction. It just means pretty fireworks.

Re:Indeed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795328)

You're missing the important point, though. In the United States, we're taught from youth that among our country's founding principles was that you can believe in anything you want.

Meanwhile, starting with the Cold War and continuing to this very day, if that "anything" happens to be communism, you are discriminated against.

To join our military, or to become a naturalized American, you have to swear you're not a communist.

And why the hell can't you be a communist, if you believe in the so-called American belief that you can believe what you want? In the previous century there used to be proud American communists, who believed that communism is consistent with American ideals, and were motivated along those lines. They were marginalized out of existence, in some cases by action of our government.

This should disgust people who are not hypocrites. But if you take this question to a lot of people here in the US, they think you're crazy. To paraphrase the late comedian Bill Hicks, in this country, you're free. Free to do what we tell you to do.

Re:Indeed (5, Informative)

CharlyFoxtrot (1607527) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795582)

Our populace has many kinds of idiots, including those that think the only reason communism has failed everywhere it's been tried is because the right people weren't in charge.

If you look at many communist states they grew spectacularly despite many abuses in the system. Russia under communism for instance grew from a pre-industrial backwater that got beat down by the Japanese to a world superpower that pushed back the german war machine. Cuba grew from a defacto US plantation colony into an independent state with an infant mortality rate lower than that of the US [wikipedia.org] . China became the workshop of the world under communism and the biggest US creditor holding USD 740 billion in U.S. debt. All 3 of these grew from dirt poor to states with good healthcare and education surpassing others in their region. To say they have "failed" is simplistic at best.

Re:Indeed (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795074)

Fortunately for him he lives in a society where you can formulate political opinion from a variety of sources and not resort to a childish game of name calling and vague nonsensical grandstanding.

Well, to be fair, he doesn't. Here in Spain, politicians resorts way more often to childish games of name calling and vague nonsensical grandstanding than in USA or most of european countries (thanks to the damage that the civil war and 40 years of dictatorship did to our people. Not to mention the Basque Country, where hundreds of democratically elected politicians have been living (and still live) with bodyguards and are killed just because they didn't support independentism). The way Spain discusses about politics resembles a bit to what you see in many latinoamerican countries, rather to USA, or the most relevant european countries. Communism just happens to be one of the tolerable alternatives, just like in other european countries. Probably because even the people who hate it see it as an impossible pseudo christian utopy. It seem to me that conservative parties in USA don't even look it as an impossible utopy, it seems a nightmare for them. Here you can discuss about communism, but there're many other things that you couldn't discuss here. For example, what USA knows as libertarianism (Ron Paul, etc), which is something almost completely unknow here.

And note that while Llamazares is pro-socialist, he is not 100% communist. IU is a coalition, and while the communist party (PCE) is probably the biggest, their political agenda is very fuzzy. They know they hate capitalism (what they think capitalism is), but they don't really know what they should do, except raising taxes to rich people.

Indeed WTF? (1)

Ostracus (1354233) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795218)

But, Señor Llamazares is a Commie

Fortunately for him he lives in a society where you can formulate political opinion from a variety of sources and not resort to a childish game of name calling and vague nonsensical grandstanding. In many parts of the world, you can call yourself a communist or a marxist or a socialist and then have a discussion about what that means.

Stateside, I bet many people would consider calling the police. But such is the state of our populace: hysterical cowards and uneducated drones, ready to plead fealty to whatever entity promises them the most convenience and security.

And yet for those who clicked on a Reuters story we didn't see this calling of the police by uneducated drones, and hysterical cowards. Of course we didn't have an intellectual discussion of what it means to be communist, but then the story was basically "we goofed" and an apology.

Sounds like some of you have too many axes to grind.

Blame google not FBI (4, Funny)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794454)

Come on, the FBI agent simply went to images.google.com and entered "osama bin laden now" and hit "I am feeling lucky". How could he know that he should not have been feeling lucky that day? Blame google, not the agent.

Re:Blame google not FBI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794698)

what's the copyright angle on this story?

Fashion (1)

zuzuzzzip (1656635) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794514)

Yeah right, Osama wearing a turtleneck; Where are his nice white robes?

Re:Fashion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794594)

And that's why he's actually wearing a turtleneck. He also shaved his bear and cut his. Nobody recognized him.
http://switchtomac.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Jobs-Osama.jpg [switchtomac.com]

Re:Fashion (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794730)

And he hasn't been near Pakistan for years....

Re:Fashion (3, Interesting)

zach_the_lizard (1317619) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794970)

I have a feeling that he's in the US, probably even working in DC, laughing at how he has managed to be free for years. He probably is working at a StarBucks by the White House. It sure beats the hell out of the Afghanistan-Pakistan border region, and no one would suspect it.

So what did they search for? (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794544)

My question is, what did they search for to get this result? And shouldn't they have checked who it was before they used it?

Re:So what did they search for? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794678)

Does it really matter whos picture they used?

Re:So what did they search for? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794776)

A Google images search for "Izquierda Unida", the leftist Spanish coalition, has him as the first non-logo result, and what I believe to be the actual picture used on the fifth...
Did the IU annoy the FBI lately?
Is this a plot to bring them down?

I'm not sayin' anything, just askin' questions, like...

Wait, what? (-1, Troll)

Nikkos (544004) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794650)

He's a Communist. Why is he worrying about the rights of an individual?

Re:Wait, what? (4, Insightful)

ccguy (1116865) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794724)

You must be American.

Re:Wait, what? (0, Offtopic)

dunkelfalke (91624) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795070)

Ignorance and stupidity aren't exclusive American traits.

Re:Wait, what? (3, Insightful)

Eudial (590661) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795298)

Ignorance and stupidity aren't exclusive American traits.

When it takes the form of McCarthyism, it invariably is.

Re:Wait, what? (0, Troll)

Nikkos (544004) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795404)

What exactly does that have to do with the question I posed? Communism has been directly responsible for the deaths of 100 million people, yet this communist is worried about individual rights?

Instead of making a comment to defend communism or correct my misunderstanding, you make a snide comment on my nationality. Kinda sad really.

Re:Wait, what? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794732)

Because he's the individual in question.

Slashdot requires you to wait longer between hitting 'reply' and submitting a comment.
It's been 17 seconds since you hit 'reply'. Chances are, you type faster than 1 WPM.

NOT the first time the FBI used google images (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794670)

A few years back the FBI created a wanted poster for Philly Mobster Frankie "No lips chin balls" DeCicco from a cropped goatsex image.

The FBI's newest tool (1)

gearloos (816828) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794704)

The FBI's Newest Tool "Is the guy updating Osama Bin Laden's picture!" - There. fixed that for you.

Amateur hour yet again. (1, Redundant)

EWAdams (953502) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794772)

First the CIA jails and interrogates people when it is no part of their charter to do so and they have no training at it, producing an unmitigated diplomatic disaster for the USA and no valuable information. Now the FBI assembles "wanted" photos using Google images.

Where does the incompetence in the American security apparatus end?

Re:Amateur hour yet again. (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794812)

Seriously, doesn't OBL have 50 half brothers or something? Some of them must be older than him.

Re:Amateur hour yet again. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795432)

You should be able to ask the CIA about this as they cleared him, and trained him as an agent. Surely they must have some images even though they might claim those images are classified to hide their embaracement.

Re:Amateur hour yet again. (0)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795094)

This isn't the FBI's failure as much as it is one man that the FBI hired committing middle school level plagiarism by grabbing a photo off the Internet in place of doing original work.

Sue the FBI (5, Funny)

iphinome (810750) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794792)

Does the FBI own the rights to the image they're showing around? Aren't they violating copyright? Can't they be sued for millions in made up damages?

Re:Sue the FBI (2, Funny)

The FBI (1717712) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795042)

Does the FBI own the rights to the image they're showing around? Aren't they violating copyright? Can't they be sued for millions in made up damages?

Would you really like to find out?

Re:Sue the FBI (1)

TechForensics (944258) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795346)

Does the FBI own the rights to the image they're showing around? Aren't they violating copyright? Can't they be sued for millions in made up damages?

Nope, in the US you can use the image of a public figure for many purposes-- he's fair game. Of course, he might win a case of defamation if he could show generally that members of any significant group he's in actually *believed* he were Osama based on the picture.

His only recourse will be diplomatic.

They used it in another picture as well! (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794796)

Something must be quite wrong when a forensic artist uses google images to find suitable features.

But it is even more worrying that they used Llamazare's features for another picture!

They took the Spanish PM's eyes and hair again for an image of a _different_ wanted terrorist:
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2010/01/16/internacional/1263662696.html
http://www.rewardsforjustice.net/index.cfm?page=atiyah_abd&language=english

One wonders about the reliability of such wanted pictures, when it seems they serial produce them, cutting and pasting from the same image...

Mod parent UP (1)

sslayer (968948) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794920)

What the fuck! Llamazares shouldn't go ever to the US, the best thing that can happen to him is a shot in the forehead, if airport police has watched for a while this photos, he will really seem to them like a terrorist...

coincidence? (5, Funny)

malp (108885) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794828)

You know I've never seen Bin Laden and this Gaspar Llamazares fellow in the same place at the same time. Just saying...

Re:coincidence? (1, Insightful)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794866)

I've never seen George Walker Bush and Barack Obama in the same place at the same time. I've seen video purported to show as much, but we all know what they can do with that these days.

Re:coincidence? (1)

malp (108885) | more than 4 years ago | (#30794896)

Good point.... I haven't seen Barack Hussein Mohammad Obama on Fox News once. What is he afraid we'll find out?

Re:coincidence? (1)

Verunks (1000826) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795166)

I've never seen George Walker Bush and Barack Obama in the same place at the same time. I've seen video purported to show as much, but we all know what they can do with that these days.

I guess you missed the obama inauguration then http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/44_01_21/4425_17677757.jpg [boston.com]

Re:coincidence? (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795220)

Correct. I was not there in person and do not believe the so-called "photo evidence".

Re:coincidence? (1)

daseinw (244962) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795334)

Your wish is my command:

Here's a photo and an article of http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34893608/ns/world_news-haiti_earthquake/ [msn.com] entitled "Obama enlists Bush, Clinton to help on Haiti" that depicts George Walker Bush and Barack Obama in the same place at the same time. I think it's safe to say that this is a real photo.

He now has to worry about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794880)

air travel until Osama bin Laden is caught, identified, confesses, is executed. God knows Llamazares is thinking one day an air marshall is going to put a slug in his chest after finding Osama bin Laden in an airport because of that picture.

And I know all of you are saddened at the fact that his fears are perfectly reasonable.

Why don't we progress (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30794882)

You would suspect that after thousands of years we would have a better solution then killing and war....

Get used to it, halfassed is how we do things. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795020)

Don't have a good picture of your target?
Don't have enough description to draw a picture of your target?
Don't worry, just use someone else's photo from the internet, it's not like they'll notice...
After all, actually having a picture of the correct target is less important than being able to tell your boss, "um, yeah, we did a forensics pic of the terrorist...".

I knew it all along (2, Funny)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795036)

Finally the proof I have been waiting for, Llamas really are EVIL! Sure they may look cute standing there chewing cud, but the FBI is on to their secret plot to hijack airliners and crash them into alpaca farms. Keep up the good work boys!

Gray (2, Interesting)

pgn674 (995941) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795148)

Wow, that is some light grey text. The color of the date between the title and the main text is #999999, or 60% white (with 0% white being black). That text is more white than black, on a white background. The main text of the article isn't as bad, with the color #666666, or 40% white. But still, that is really uncomfortable to read, especially if you have a display with small pixels. The 11px font size and normal font weight doesn't help.

Has anyone else noticed the trend for news sites to make their text whiter and whiter, while maintaining a pure white background? I'm not a web designer, but as a user, this is getting really annoying.

Oh, and strangely enough, the title of the article is actually the same exact color as the main text: #666666.

FBI must be legally blind (3, Funny)

Dracos (107777) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795198)

That guy doesn't represent what bin Laden would look like now. You can tell because:

  • That guy looks nothing like bin Laden
  • That guy doesn't look like he's been in a shallow grave for 8 years

In the misquoted words of David Wong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795234)

"For my part, I just hope Brad Pitt never does anything to piss off the Department of Homeland Security."

Are you him? (1)

Datamonstar (845886) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795300)

Is your skin anything but the purist of whites? Do you speak with an accent (from MY frame of reference)? Do you have a beard? Wear funny-looking clothes (again, from MY frame of reference)?

Then congratulations! YOU can be our next international terrorist! But, don't count yourself out just because you look like a white American. If you've ever visited one of the countries on our list and especially if you happened to be photographed while wearing the local fashions (we really like turbans), then you can join in too!

Compares photographies (1)

diegocg (1680514) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795342)

If you take a look here [elmundo.es] , you can compare both photographies. Note that the hair is the same...

This reminds me of... (1)

moose_hp (179683) | more than 4 years ago | (#30795348)

I used to have a spot on the 2th page of Google Images' query "los 10 mas buscados de la pgr" (the top ten wanted of the PGR (mexican federal police)), after a quick google, it seems that the photo was removed from the query (it is still on my flickr stream anyway).

It used to be a great conversation topic, something like "oh yeah, and I'm one of the top ten wanted of the PGR" "naw, you're joking" "you don't beleive me? google it yourself" "oh shit, you really are".

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Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30795490)

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