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Mozilla Firefox 3.6 Released

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the when-browsers-compete-you-win dept.

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Shining Celebi writes "Mozilla has released Firefox 3.6 today, which adds support for Personas, lightweight themes that can be installed without restarting the browser, and adds further performance improvements to the new Tracemonkey Javascript engine. One of the major goals of the release was to improve startup time and general UI responsiveness, especially the Awesomebar. You can read the full set of release notes here."

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Switch Proxy Tool (5, Informative)

wbav (223901) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850046)

If you have the Switch Proxy Tool, I strongly suggest you disable it. Caused all sort of issues when upgrading. If you've already upgraded, right click on the shortcut and run in safe mode, there you can disable it. YMMV.

Re:Switch Proxy Tool (4, Funny)

ottothecow (600101) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850080)

I used someones firefox with these persona things already installed...it was awful, I couldn't see which tab was what.

It was like giving myspace page designers control over your browser

Re:Switch Proxy Tool (2, Interesting)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850160)

I just installed the persona add-on and checked out a few of the themes. You're right, most of the non-solid ones like the Marshall Amp and the DJ one with the turntables on it are annoying because they distract the eye and add visual clutter to the workflow.

Additionally, the graphics from the themes as described above have that pixellated, dithered, low-res look to them. It's like stretching a 400x300 picture to desktop wallpaper.

Re:Switch Proxy Tool (2, Informative)

ottothecow (600101) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850562)

yup, I am typing this from freshly upgraded firefox. I put my mouse over a few of the persona styles and they had nasty dithering effects (and I am not on a large display).

This is why people complain about bloat...what is the point of this junk? Weren't there already addons/themes that let you do this kind of stuff? I hope that mouseover to change style stuff only works on mozilla domains...because I see a whole new way to make the internet an awfully annoying place...screw animated gifs and blink tags, I am going to change your damn browser.

Re:Switch Proxy Tool (3, Informative)

jesser (77961) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851498)

This is why people complain about bloat...what is the point of this junk? Weren't there already addons/themes that let you do this kind of stuff?

It's the first step toward replacing Firefox's old theme system with a better one, where themes are smaller and easier to create. (It's not there yet, since you can't replace buttons, only backgrounds.)

While we have both systems in place, it might seem like "bloat", but in the long term it will allow Firefox to use significantly less memory and have a simpler user interface around installing themes. It's a fight against bloat.

I hope that mouseover to change style stuff only works on mozilla domains

Correct, it only works on sites that are whitelisted for extension installation. By default, the only whitelisted sites are the mozilla sites for extensions and themes.

Re:Switch Proxy Tool (2, Interesting)

Skratchez (1304839) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850256)

This is true. The new personas features are butt ugly. Use Stylish (I recommend Gradient iCool for the nice dark black and blue) and the custom /. black with green text mod. It looks like an old CRT.

Re:Switch Proxy Tool (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850466)

How do you make a nigger self-destruct? Tell him that basketball was invented by a white man.

Re:Switch Proxy Tool (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850648)

Peni.s envy much ? loser.

Re:Switch Proxy Tool (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850886)

Late at night, when you're all alone, you want to kill yourself, don't you? Just do it.

Re:Switch Proxy Tool (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850934)

Late at night, when you're all alone, you want to kill yourself, don't you? Just do it.

What's with all the AC posts lately that encourage people to do this? What a shitty trend. I don't care who the person is, you don't want that on your conscience. It's just plain fucked up that you'd even joke about that.

Re:Switch Proxy Tool (2, Insightful)

xtracto (837672) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851264)

This is true. The new personas features are butt ugly. Use Stylish (I recommend Gradient iCool for the nice dark black and blue) and the custom /. black with green text mod. It looks like an old CRT.

This made me smile a little. It shows the reason why we (geeks) are *different* from the majority of "normal users".

Normal users find myspace like pages OK, the more sparks and blinks and effects the better. Whereas we find green text in black background great.

I love Green on Black (DarkRoom is a godsend for me). But everytime anyone else has seen my color schemes (I tend to work [program] in Linux using Compiz META+M inverted colors) they think I am crazy or antiquated (green and black has not been in vogue in computers for about 50 years!... even my father used VGA!)

Re:Switch Proxy Tool (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850488)

It was like giving myspace page designers control over your browser

See? This is what happens when the Mozilla people come up with their own ideas instead of just implementing the features from the previous version of Opera.

I keed, I keed!

Re:Switch Proxy Tool (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850726)

You realize you can switch/disable Personas, don't you?

It's true that many Personas themes aren't really usable, but nobody is forcing you to use them. There are lots of themes you can try.

I'm currently using the relatively nice Einstein theme :)

Re:Switch Proxy Tool (3, Funny)

zullnero (833754) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851136)

Awesome. I love having as much freedom to make my browser as irritating to use to my jerk friends who don't ask for permission to use my machine as possible. It's just a thing I like to do.

I use QuickProxy (1)

JoshDM (741866) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850908)

SwitchProxy stopped working for me on one of the other FF upgrades, so I gave it up for QuickProxy, which also requires less babysitting and is easier for me to use.

Re:Switch Proxy Tool (1)

chrysrobyn (106763) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851144)

If you have the Switch Proxy Tool, I strongly suggest you disable it. Caused all sort of issues when upgrading. If you've already upgraded, right click on the shortcut and run in safe mode, there you can disable it. YMMV.

Then I'll just have to wait. At work, I ssh tunnel 95% of my traffic home and bounce it off my Apache server there. It's not fast (by design -- I need to limit my compulsive habits somehow). On occasion, I need to get to stuff fast, like big updates and PDF files. Switch Proxy and FlashBlock are my two reasons for using Firefox.

Speed Kills (play it safe - buy a Chevy) (0, Troll)

MonsterTrimble (1205334) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850074)

..adds further performance improvements to the new Tracemonkey Javascript engine. One of the major goals of the release was to improve startup time and general UI responsiveness, especially the Awesomebar.

Call me when you get in the ballpark of Opera & Chrome.

Re:Speed Kills (play it safe - buy a Chevy) (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850216)

Firefox 3.6 does beat the newest Chrome on some Javascript benchmarks (and Chrome beats Firefox on others). I think it's safe to say they're in the same ballpark. http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17199/1/ [fudzilla.com]

Re:Speed Kills (play it safe - buy a Chevy) (4, Interesting)

Cheburator-2 (260358) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850294)

Just downloaded it - it's just as fast as Chrome or even faster. Typing this from shiny new browser.

Re:Speed Kills (play it safe - buy a Chevy) (3, Insightful)

zullnero (833754) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851208)

Ha, and you got tricked by a Opera or Chrome fanboy into replying. You know that's not going to make them change.

Firefox Fanboys == Internet Explorer Fanboys (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30851284)

2010 Firefox Fanboys:

"Just downloaded it - it's just as fast as Chrome or even faster. Typing this from shiny new browser."

2000 Internet Explorer Fanboys:

"Just downloaded it - it's just as safe as Firefox or safer. Typing this from shiny new browser."

Do we pity or just laugh at the delusional sods still clinging to the turd of a browser that Firefox is?

Re:Speed Kills (play it safe - buy a Chevy) (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850326)

FLOSS is for communist Obama nigger fags.

Re:Speed Kills (play it safe - buy a Chevy) (1)

MonsterTrimble (1205334) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850560)

Sweet - I didn't get Nukemodded with an INTENTIONAL flamebait subject line.

It's a good day.

Actually I have nothing against Firefox - I just find Opera & Chrome superior.

Re:Speed Kills (play it safe - buy a Chevy) (4, Funny)

headkase (533448) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850778)

I ignore all moderation here, especially down moderation as that is always disagreement. There should only be positive mods and they should not be limited to 5. Set your threshold wherever you like with that. There are no consequences to moderation any more either as the only thing it used to affect, order of comments if you used that no longer really exists.

Re:Speed Kills (play it safe - buy a Chevy) (1)

Gordo_1 (256312) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850966)

Brring, brring...

You have an annoying ringtone. Oh and by the way, stop basing your performance expectations on javascript benchmarks and actually go out and use your browser to browse real websites. Call me back when you discover one that doesn't load in the same "ballpark" as Opera and Chrome.

Pretty neat. (4, Informative)

jayminer (692836) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850088)

Tried on Windows, performance improvements are immediately noticeable. Wastes less screen space by default. For those who are used to the old look-and-feel can feel a little awkward at first.

Set extensions.checkCompatibility to false and you're good to go.

Re:Pretty neat. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850422)

"Set extensions.checkCompatibility to false and you're good to go."

There are cases where this is worth it to people, but this isn't a good idea if you value stability. This pref is true by default for a reason, and if you're going to recommend that people change it you should warn them about the fact that this is dangerous.

Javascript performance (3, Informative)

mallumax (712655) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850090)

My javascript performance comparison between Firefox 3.6 and Chrome and Safari http://www.manu-j.com/blog/firefox-3-6-vs-chrome-vs-safari-javascript-performance/432/ [manu-j.com]

As usual, Firefox performance on the v8 benchmark is pathetic where Chrome is more than 10 times faster.It is 24% faster than version 3.5.4 in V8 but it is clearly not enough. In the sunspider test, chrome is 2 times as fast as firefox. In this test, 3.6 is 17% faster than 3.5.4. Safari too comfortably beats Firefox in both these benchmarks

Re:Javascript performance (5, Insightful)

Skratchez (1304839) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850172)

It's an improvement. That's what counts, some of us don't want to trade our lovely open-source browser for a product from Google or Apple, or MS for that matter. I can wait on javascript performance, TYVM.

Re:Javascript performance (2)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850506)

WebKit is open source. Chrome is open source.

Re:Javascript performance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30851056)

Chromium is open-source. Chrome itself is that + fuck-knows-what compiled together.

Re:Javascript performance (5, Insightful)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851388)

These tests are mostly pointless anyway. They measure raw JS performance, which would matter if you'd be doing, say, number crunching. In practice, the most heavyweight operation that is likely to be done by scripts in a browser is DOM manipulation, and that's an entirely different thing. What does it matter if your super-efficient JS AOT compiler based on quantum branch prediction can call a method on a DOM object as fast as a plain native JMP, if the implementation of said method causes reflow and redraw of most of the page?

Coincidentally, it's why Opera feels so fast for actual browsing while still using an interpreter for JS (and consequently sucking in any synthetic JS perf tests) - its interpreter is an order of magnitude slower than e.g. Chrome, yes, but it's got an extremely fast layout engine and renderer, so DOM updates are instantaneous.

Re:Javascript performance (1)

Rockoon (1252108) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850538)

Want to throw Opera in there?

For the tests linked to here [nontroppo.org] the latest official release is slightly slower than Chrome, but the latest alpha build is significantly faster than chrome.

Re:Javascript performance (2, Interesting)

causality (777677) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850572)

My javascript performance comparison between Firefox 3.6 and Chrome and Safari http://www.manu-j.com/blog/firefox-3-6-vs-chrome-vs-safari-javascript-performance/432/ [manu-j.com]

As usual, Firefox performance on the v8 benchmark is pathetic where Chrome is more than 10 times faster.It is 24% faster than version 3.5.4 in V8 but it is clearly not enough. In the sunspider test, chrome is 2 times as fast as firefox. In this test, 3.6 is 17% faster than 3.5.4. Safari too comfortably beats Firefox in both these benchmarks

They should use Slashdot for testing JS performance. Click "Read More" to load a new discussion, then hit "Reply to This", type a response, hit "Preview", and count how many seconds it takes before you see the preview. May the best browser win!

Re:Javascript performance (5, Informative)

Zocalo (252965) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850818)

That delay is nothing to do with your browser - that's Slashdot scanning of a bunch of ports on your IP address. I spotted this a few weeks back when I made a post to Slashdot while running a "tail -f" on my firewall logs, although I've been aware of the lag a lot longer than that. It seems that if your firewall just DROPs the packets you get a delay while it retries a couple of times, whereas if you REJECT then it's a good deal quicker. There's some caching going on as well, once you've gone through this the lag disappears for a day or two, then re-starts. As it says in my .sig - WTF?

Re:Javascript performance (1)

spyder913 (448266) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850936)

Wow... good to know. I rarely post because it takes so long for the preview to show up.

Re:Javascript performance (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30851090)

They are checking to see if you are an open proxy, and will ban you if so.

Re:Javascript performance (1)

amigabill (146897) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850576)

Why hasn't anyone gotten clever and made Firefox use Chrome's faster Javascript code? Porting it to Firefox and all that?

Re:Javascript performance (3, Insightful)

Dan667 (564390) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850704)

The problem is there are just not the plugins for other browsers. Even though some folks are obsessing over rendering times, the extensions add to block flash, malware, adblock, etc make Firefox faster and the web more usable for me.

YAWN... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850228)

Did I miss something? No? Good. zzzzz

Just used Chrome (2, Interesting)

treeves (963993) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850236)

to download Firefox 3.6. I regularly use both. Just happened to be using Chrome when I came across this story and decided to upgrade Firefox. I used to use Opera a lot. Not sure why I stopped and why I can't stick with one browser. I guess Chrome took Opera's place as the lighter, faster browser for me while I keep using FF for the extensions.

Personas, lightweight themes? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850244)

Proof that Firefox is heading for doom. Stop wasting time on making the browser look different than the fucking OS you idiots.

Re:Personas, lightweight themes? (2, Insightful)

Nick Fel (1320709) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850678)

Didn't Internet Explorer 3 have skinable toolbars in 1996? Transparency please.

How about fixing the Memory leaks? (-1, Troll)

imnotreallynewhere (1648069) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850292)

Having to restart every few hours as the memory footprint creeps up to 1GB in size....I would gladly take improvements in memory leaks over speed increases in javascript rendering.

Re:How about fixing the Memory leaks? (2, Informative)

Chirs (87576) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850336)

Not sure what you're doing. My firefox has been up (and used regularly) for two days and is sitting at 550MB.

Re:How about fixing the Memory leaks? (1)

Cheburator-2 (260358) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850446)

Maybe he is using some badly written extensions or visits some flash-heavy sites?

Re:How about fixing the Memory leaks? (-1)

Rockoon (1252108) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850596)

Contrary to popular belief, memory leaks related to midget porn is not smaller the other porn.

Re:How about fixing the Memory leaks? (2, Insightful)

imnotreallynewhere (1648069) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850694)

well this can happen on a machine with no plugins and just left sitting at the gmail page.... gets worse with visits to youtube and such. Now I have 3 PCs, two with XP one with Windows 7, it happens on one XP and the Windows 7 box, one XP machine is just fine. And yes I do run add-ons and such, the same on each machine, but ive tested on clean re-installs and it does it. A bit of googling you find other with the same problem.... its not everyone out there.....but its still not enough to drive me away from Firefox, its not much of a pain to restart every few hours.

Leaks, plug-in leaks, or caches? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850690)

Cheburator-2 has a point. Does Firefox leak even when you use Flashblock, NoScript, or another extension that implements a whitelist for a popular but leaky plug-in?

Even if your web browser reaches 1 GB, does it cause your computer to thrash swap? If not, there's no problem. It's supposed to be that big; a lot of the memory is used for cached pages from history (press Alt+Left), recently closed tabs (press Ctrl+Shift+T), and recently closed windows (press Ctrl+Shift+N).

Re:How about fixing the Memory leaks? (2, Informative)

Dan667 (564390) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850734)

get the Ghostery plugin for firefox. That stops some poorly written javascript from running in the first place.

Re:How about fixing the Memory leaks? (1)

DamageLabs (980310) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851046)

You must be lucky. My instance is using 1.5GB, after about a week of runtime.

Oh well, Chrome does top it at over 2 gigs.

Re:How about fixing the Memory leaks? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851058)

Next time close your failbook tab. They have memory leaks in their javascript.

How can I upgrade on Ubuntu? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850298)

Posting AC so I don't get called a noob.

Re:How can I upgrade on Ubuntu? (-1, Offtopic)

east coast (590680) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850418)

You're still going to be called a n00b, n00b. We just won't know who you are.

Re:How can I upgrade on Ubuntu? (0, Offtopic)

imnotreallynewhere (1648069) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850834)

well I havent posted on slashdot since about 1999, my first account from 1996 is long gone. I just spent the last 10 year lurking.

Re:How can I upgrade on Ubuntu? (3, Informative)

Hatta (162192) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850624)

Wait until the maintainers put a package in the repository, then update like usual. It's generally not worth installing unofficial packages if an official one is forthcoming.

Re:How can I upgrade on Ubuntu? (1)

Chatterton (228704) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850710)

The simplest way to upgrade in ubuntu is to wait. Wait a long time. One day or another it will appear in your proposed upgrades.

Re:How can I upgrade on Ubuntu? (3, Informative)

Knuckles (8964) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850978)

How can I upgrade on Ubuntu?

It won't appear in the main distribution until the new distro release 10.04 (current Codename Lucid Lynx). Possibly someone will stick it into the backports repository (which you would have to enable) or into a PPA (likewise).

If you can't wait, install into /usr/local from mozilla.com (use checkinstall to create a basic deb package so that the package manager knows about it).

GPU accelerated Firefox? (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850304)

One of the goals mentioned in the article was to improve garbage collection performance to make pauses shorter and animations smoother. Why not just use the video card to accelerate the graphical operations (plus any other GPGPU operations)? Flash and PDF readers have already done it. For that matter, Windows Vista or later UIs have already do the same. This will give performance edges over contemporary browsers.

Re:GPU accelerated Firefox? (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850436)

I would assume that they either don't want(or don't have the manpower) to bog themselves down in the platform-specific and, for the moment, GPU vendor-specific, details.

Re:GPU accelerated Firefox? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850664)

I am not an expert... I believe there is no need to program in GPU-specific code. For this there is DirectX or OpenGL. OK, cross platform rules out DirectX.
Would OpenGL still be a viable solution ?

Re:GPU accelerated Firefox? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850830)

OpenGL and OpenCL are not tied to specific platfrom or GPU vendor. However, drivers for OpenGL/CL are different stories...

Re:GPU accelerated Firefox? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850652)

One of the goals mentioned in the article was to improve garbage collection performance to make pauses shorter and animations smoother. Why not just use the video card to accelerate the graphical operations (plus any other GPGPU operations)?

Because then animations would still pause and skip when they garbage collect. To use a car analogy. If you have a flat tire, putting on a new car DVD player won't make your car run better.

Re:GPU accelerated Firefox? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850654)

I believe I read somewhere that they're working on an openGL version of the graphics engine. and if I remember correctly It's slated for the next large release 3.7.

Re:GPU accelerated Firefox? (2, Interesting)

MarcQuadra (129430) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851082)

Firefox is based on Gecko, which uses Cairo Graphics, which has an accelerated OpenGL back-end as an output option.

My guess is that performance when using an OpenGL-accelerated renderer is actually -worse- on non-compositing window managers.

The rendering of pages wouldn't be helped by GPGPU stuff, since it's 'procedural' to parse and render HTML, it's not SIMD in nature.

Apple's been sitting on accelerated 2D rendering of the UI, glyphs, text, and primitives for over four years now, it's not a panacea. I don't think Firefox would be improved if it started depending on video drivers, 3D hardware, and was slower.

Where can I download this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850438)

The firewall at work graciously has blocked all Mozilla downloads (and most other popular DL sites). Does anybody have a link to an obscure site hosting the Windows version that will likely not be blocked? thanks.... Go figure while work blocks my download the workstations are open to install sw....

Re:Where can I download this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850858)

so all your remote shells are also firewalled. No.?? return nerdbadge immediately. kthx.

Awesomebar functionality (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30850450)

Somebody wake me up when I can have the Awesomebar function like the FF2 location bar. I know there's extensions that make the appearance similar, but the ordering algorithm is inferior (for me), and there's no way to have it ignore www prefixes when having it search by first term.

Firefox will never have what Chromium always did (0, Flamebait)

AlexLibman (785653) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850578)

Freedom! [freestateproject.org]

Chromium's license and dependencies are almost 100% restriction-free BSD [google.com] . You can do whatever you want with it - without the fear that the Copyleft gang will drag you to court and make you waste millions on your defense and/or product launch delays / cancellations!

Firefox and its dependencies are locked away behind an iron wall of Copyleft and other restrictions [wikipedia.org] . Every person who cares about personal liberty and free enterprise should use Chromium (or a less Google-entangled fork of it) instead!

Scrolling (4, Interesting)

Majix (139279) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850594)

It seems the mouse wheel scrolling has been changed in 3.6. It's moving a much larger distance with each "click" of the wheel than before and if you scroll continuously it seems to accelerate even faster. My first impression is that I don't like it at all. It feels a lot more like Chrome, which isn't a good thing in my opinion, the annoying jumpy scrolling is one of the primary reasons I prefer not to use Chrome.

Re:Scrolling (5, Informative)

ddegirmenci (1644853) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850732)

about:config
set mousewheel.withnokey.sysnumlines to false
set mousewheel.withnokey.numlines to 3

As good as new... Wait a second.

Open Link in New Tab changed (4, Informative)

bughunter (10093) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850766)

The new tab now appears to the right of the current tab when you right click on a link and select "Open Link in New Tab."

I just discovered that after about 5 seconds of "Hey, where'd my new tab go??"

that's cool (1)

zogger (617870) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850910)

I always wanted the tabs to work that way, to keep them grouped

Re:that's cool (1)

DanTheManMS (1039636) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851360)

That's how I've always had my tabs open, directly to the right of the current tab. Tab Mix Plus is an excellent addon for managing this exact sort of thing.

Re:Open Link in New Tab changed (3, Insightful)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851432)

Good, because that's how everyone else (i.e. IE, Chrome, Opera) have been doing it for a while now.

Personas are not themes, but want to replace them (2, Interesting)

BenoitRen (998927) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850824)

Personas are not light-weight themes. In fact, they're not themes at all. They're more like little gadgets that you hook up to your web browser to customise one part of its UI. It doesn't even compare to a theme.

But what's worse is that Mozilla is looking to depreciate themes in favour of Personas. From the Add-ons Manager, click "Get Themes". You won't see a page listing themes, but a page listing Personas. There isn't even a link there to the actual themes listing.

Personas...? (3, Insightful)

Stan Vassilev (939229) | more than 4 years ago | (#30850930)

Mozilla has released Firefox 3.6 today, which adds support for Personas, lightweight themes that can be installed without restarting the browser

I think someone just jumped the shark.

I can't explain to myself how adding a theme engine on top of another theme engine was somehow near the top of their todo list.

Re:Personas...? (2, Interesting)

zullnero (833754) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851440)

It's a path towards creating themes that don't require a browser restart, which is and has been an annoyance since they started doing themes several years ago. Unfortunately, a huge number of themes already out there don't work that way. It seems like a preliminary step towards transitioning to how Firefox 4.0 will be dealing with themes. 3.5 and up are pretty much transitional upgrades to wean people onto 4.0 when it's released. Pretty ordinary release strategy, really.

Re:Personas...? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30851454)

Personas? Now, where is Dojima [wikipedia.org] ?

Easier, Competitive with Chrome (1)

CritterNYC (190163) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851524)

Folks like being able to customize their browser. Chrome had been using this as one of its selling points in their online ads. Personas are simpler than themes and can be easily switched in and out. They don't require a reboot to apply. And you can try them out right on the site. So, we're likely to see more work going into personas than themes. You can see that there are about 400 Firefox themes available. And 35,000 personas. So, that's where the work is going.

ThiVs is goat5ex (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30851034)

from the FrreBSD distribution. As

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Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30851238)

Does anybody know why it always pesters you to update the Yahoo toolbar--when you don't have the toolbar installed?

Just updated... (1)

zullnero (833754) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851352)

Nice. Noticeably snappier. I like the idea of a path to themes I can apply without having to restart the browser. Browsing for the perfect theme will take a whole lot less time. The browser still takes up a bit of memory, but it's about what I expected. Just wish I could properly compare it to IE8 in Win7 without feeling like Microsoft is artificially deflating its memory usage numbers by offloading work into "operating system" processes.

how about making FF fun again (4, Interesting)

cinnamon colbert (732724) | more than 4 years ago | (#30851494)

The GUI that pops up when you want to bookmark something - case study in bad design
How about a real editor for bookmarks, with some minimal feature like export this folder (when you need to send someone a bunch of stuff)
How about mozilla not being a jerk about extensions, and getting rid of the spam that makes it hard to see anything but the top 5 extensions big brother mozilla thinks you should have

How about a stable platform for extension developers

How about letting the world know how awesome FF+noscript+adblock is when you go to a site like YAHOO
I hadn't been to YAHOO wihtout my little protectors, noscript/adblock/flashblock for some time and was astonished at how much ads have taken over the front page - how can people stand it

how about giving the users some control over privacy, so we have the wipe things clean on exit menu again

how about giving some users an idea of how much info the SOBs of the web, like google, are collecting

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