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Space Station Astronauts Gain Internet Access

kdawson posted more than 4 years ago | from the how's-the-latency-up-there dept.

NASA 201

cyclone96 writes "Internet access on the International Space Station went live this morning. The crew now has full browsing capability via a special LAN and the Ku-band data link on the Tracking and Data Relay Satellite network, as described in the NASA press release. Flight Engineer T. J. Creamer used the access to post the first tweet from orbit about 7 hours ago. Previous astronaut tweets had been posted by a third party on the ground via email."

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Great... (3, Insightful)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#30860884)

...now they are gonna be so busy lolcatting and 4channing it up that nothing is gonna get done.

GG.

Re:Great... (5, Funny)

Shatteredstar (1722136) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861162)

Or playing WoW. "Sorry guys I can't raid tonight, gotta go do a spacewalk to fix a solar panel."

Re:Great... (4, Funny)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861344)

Or playing WoW. "Sorry guys I can't do the spacewalk to fix the solar panel, got a raid tonight."

fixed :D

Re:Great... (2, Funny)

happy_place (632005) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861466)

Don't let'em set up their own web server. They probably don't want the spacestation slashdotted...

Re:Great... (2, Insightful)

Skuld-Chan (302449) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861886)

Can you imagine the latency?

Re:Great... (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861990)

Not as bad as you'd think. Certainly no worse, and possibly better, than satellite service provided to ground based customers. We have someone in our guild that plays WoW over satellite and her ping is typically 1000-1200ms. Bad, but not unplayable.

Re:Great... (1)

sabt-pestnu (967671) | more than 4 years ago | (#30862132)

Killer latency, dude. Maybe your hearth point should be in Ironforge, not Dalaran...

Re:Great... (0, Redundant)

Kenoli (934612) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861372)

Sorry guys I can't go do a spacewalk to fix a solar panel tonight, gotta raid.

Fixed that for you.

Re:Great... (5, Funny)

Hylandr (813770) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861370)

Fire up EVE ONLINE !! From SPACE !!

Re:Great... (1)

Stupid McStupidson (1660141) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861598)

My space shuttle was equipped with the following:

Re:Great... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861960)

Oh, god. I laughed. Hard.

But the questions are...
How many jumps to get to the system they're flying in, and are they Minmatar?

Re:Great... (2)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861952)

Most of the astronauts are nerds. How long before they're posting to slashdot from outer space?

Re:Great... (1)

IdleTime (561841) | more than 4 years ago | (#30862150)

What's next? Space Porn? Zero-G gay-men-in-space-orgy?

Can you imagine a stripper pole dancing in zero-G?

ISO country code (5, Interesting)

logophage (160591) | more than 4 years ago | (#30860898)

Out of curiosity, is there an ISO country code for low Earth orbit?

Re:ISO country code (2, Funny)

garcia (6573) | more than 4 years ago | (#30860942)

Yeah, WOY as in We Own You.

Re:ISO country code (4, Funny)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 4 years ago | (#30860962)

Get your .co.moon domain name today!
Grab your name before someone squats on your moon.

Re:ISO country code (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30860968)

It is .awesome

Re:ISO country code (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861080)

Too bad you don't know your ISO from TLD.

Re:ISO country code (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861118)

Too bad you dont understand a joke, when you see one :)

Re:ISO country code (4, Informative)

Dancindan84 (1056246) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861046)

No, but EO (earth orbit) and LO (low orbit) are both available.

http://www.iso.org/iso/iso-3166-1_decoding_table [iso.org]

Re:ISO country code (4, Interesting)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861214)

I think "HI" or "UP" would be appropriate.

Re:ISO country code (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861278)

You could probably market those to stoners here. Think of the commercial possibilities. Not just geographic location, but state of mind.

Re:ISO country code (4, Funny)

ehiris (214677) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861792)

HI should be reserved for Dutch-style coffee shops.

Re:ISO country code (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861870)

How about a TLD for the Earth, with a view to an interplanetary internet: .earth .terraprime .sol3 .neo (near Earth orbit)

We made the mistake of not considering future needs when deciding on the 4 byte IPv4 address system :)

Re:ISO country code (2, Funny)

IdleTime (561841) | more than 4 years ago | (#30862190)

I-can-see-russia-from-my-space-station is also available!

Re:ISO country code (1)

mapkinase (958129) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861330)

The answer could be guessed from the fact that there is no code for international waters.

Re:ISO country code (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861474)

The answer could be guessed from the fact that there is no code for international waters.

Oy! Matey!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_code

Re:ISO country code (2, Insightful)

sconeu (64226) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861770)

It's the "International Space Station". Seems to me that iss.int would be good.

first post! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30860910)

from orbit!

Wait! (1)

headkase (533448) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861210)

On the billion to one chance, what if that was one of the astronauts!? Then we'd have to have the first Troll from orbit... and.. Well, never mind ;)

Space Porn (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30860920)

This new innovation will be shortly followed by studies of Astronauts suddenly going blind in space.

Re:Space Porn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861274)

I wonder how long before their computer gets owned? It would be good bragging rights for some black hat to be able to say, "my botnet includes machines on the International f'ing Space Station!". Or, "this spam sent to you via orbit!".

Space, the final frontier (4, Funny)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 4 years ago | (#30860950)

where no botnet/porn/rickrolling has gone before.

Re:Space, the final frontier (1)

show me altoids (1183399) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861926)

I wonder which websites are blocked? Most likely the same as any government agency, I suppose.

Infection in 3.. 2.. (3, Insightful)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 4 years ago | (#30860952)

Remember the last time(s) the Space Station's laptops got infected?

Re:Infection in 3.. 2.. (3, Informative)

Magic5Ball (188725) | more than 4 years ago | (#30862152)

RTFA: "During periods when the station is actively communicating with the ground using high-speed Ku-band communications, the crew will have remote access to the Internet via a ground computer. The crew will view the desktop of the ground computer using an onboard laptop and interact remotely with their keyboard touchpad."

It's difficult, but not impossible, to spread malware via RDP or VNC or X or whatever.

First email (5, Funny)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 4 years ago | (#30860960)

Dear sirs:

I am the son of the Eternal Living God of Mars, who was recently assinated by opposition forces. I cincerely need you help to transfer 5,000,000 Gomlets (Five million gromlets) from my planet to yours...

Re:First email (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861194)

What the mark doesn't know is, that at current conversion rates, his 5,000,000 gromlets isn't even worth my $0.02!

Can it stream YouTube? (5, Funny)

ICLKennyG (899257) | more than 4 years ago | (#30860982)

But the internet is provided through a contract with Verizon Wireless, the $49.99Million/mo 'Unlimited' plan includes 100Mb of data 25k/25k transfer speeds and 1 email account.

Re:Can it stream YouTube? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861726)

Don't forget the 2-year contract with $350 million early termination fee.
If only we could get "new every two" for our space shuttles.

So they RDP to a ground computer.... (2, Informative)

jpedlow (1154099) | more than 4 years ago | (#30860992)

Great, they RDP to a ground computer and go about their way. 3 problems I can forsee: 1. Somewhat laggy screen redraw 2. Possible RDPviewer remote code exploits? Then there'll be the first goatxe in space. 3. Line of sight problems, how is the handoff handled once the station goes over the horizon? Cool, though, glad to hear they've got the capability... Lets get them 100meg access, the RIAA and MPAA cant get them in SPACE!

Re:So they RDP to a ground computer.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861130)

Wouldn't be the first time! Though it was Paramount who did it... http://www.universetoday.com/2009/05/15/new-star-trek-movie-beamed-up-to-space-station/

Re:So they RDP to a ground computer.... (4, Informative)

dreamchaser (49529) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861136)

I know you're joking and yes I found it funny. You gave me a chuckle. I just wanted to point out that they only use RDP when the link is being used for voice/video/data communication between the ISS and the ground. The rest of the time they can use it like any other LAN based Internet, meaning they can use their personal laptops without resorting to RDP.

Re:So they RDP to a ground computer.... (1)

jpedlow (1154099) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861316)

Hey, thanks for the info, I honestly thought they were restricted to RDPing into a terminal server (presumably from their laptops), but its good to know that they've got some sort of basic functionality up there. :)

Re:So they RDP to a ground computer.... (1)

Nova1313 (630547) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861592)

Thanks. I read the article same way as poster. That paragraph made it sound like the internet was being provided when the link was active only by RDP.

Space Station Astronauts Gain... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861016)

...Pr0n Access.

There fixed that for you. :)

what? still no /. response from space? (1)

schizix (1377671) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861038)

figured it would be up here today...

Re:what? still no /. response from space? (3, Funny)

RorschachUK (1006841) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861170)

Maybe the ISS has already been slashdotted... watch out below!

First tweet (3, Informative)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861044)

Still no aliens. Keeping vigilant.

Second tweet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861760)

Toilet backed up again. Vlad ate the mislabeled beans. Maintenance request put on hold. WTF?

Re:First tweet (5, Funny)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861832)

Still no aliens. Please send more people with large heads. Definately no brain eating aliens here.

Latency? (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861060)

I wonder if there is too much latency for something other than web browsing? Say you tube ormore likely porn videos.

Re:Latency? (3, Insightful)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861260)

The latency probably isn't as bad as one would expect. Sure, it seems far, but it's a straight shot. Also, a link between US and Europe would be significantly farther.

Re:Latency? (2, Insightful)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861318)

I shudder to think what kind of mess porn in space would leave.... Nothing quite like floating around in day old cosmonaut cum...

Re:Latency? (1)

snspdaarf (1314399) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861444)

New arrival at ISS: "Does this airlock smell vaguely like chlorine to you?"

That Explains the Chatroom Comment this Morning: (4, Funny)

BJ_Covert_Action (1499847) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861088)

When I posted, "a/s/l check?" to 'Fun Single's this morning I got: "45/m/Rp = 6714 km, i = 51.6419 degrees. Please chat with me, it's really lonely up here," as a response.

Space tweets? (5, Insightful)

BenoitRen (998927) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861102)

So they finally get Internet access, and one of the first things they use it for is a tweet on Twitter? Talk about useless.

Re:Space tweets? (1)

Caue (909322) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861132)

I was thinking just the same. Shame on you, NASA, shame on you.

Search Engine made of People. (1)

headkase (533448) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861268)

Seriously, need to make a square filter fit in a round processing machine? Hell, with the followers of that twitter account: darn useful. Just because you don't understand it doesn't make real-time useless :P

Re:Search Engine made of People. (1)

BenoitRen (998927) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861414)

...What the hell are you going on about?

Re:Space tweets? (4, Insightful)

Grygus (1143095) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861844)

When funding is on the line, PR becomes important work.

Re:Space tweets? (1)

Mushdot (943219) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861890)

Tweeting first, what next... Spacebook?

Re:Space tweets? (1)

NeoSkandranon (515696) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861966)

Yeah because there are all those other vital things they could have done first right? Give me a break.

Re:Space tweets? (1)

Undead Waffle (1447615) | more than 4 years ago | (#30862072)

Regardless of whether or not it could be considered "useful" in this situation, I had a similar first reaction. I can't wait for twitter to die so I never have to see the word "tweet" again unless it's referring to a little yellow bird.

Countdown to... (5, Funny)

Zordak (123132) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861126)

Yesterday:

Houston, please repeat. Right. Yes, the new solar panel has been successfully installed. ISS out.

Today:

hstn, lol wut?1? ya we pwnd sol pan1 suxrz1!!

In space (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861140)

In space, no one can hear you Cream.

Yes, but ... (1)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861156)

the lag is really going to suck.

But seriously, good work, engineering types who worked on this.

Re:Yes, but ... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861304)

They don't say how they did this feat, but it doesn't have to have sucky lag. Remember, ISS is only a couple hundred miles from earth, which is likely closer than you are to pretty much any server you access. The furthest away they'd be from any server is halfway around the world, which still can have 150-200 ms ping times theoretically.

But if they do use a geosync sat for routing to earth, then it will have a slow ping like the people in the boonies with sat internet. At least they don't have to worry about losing signal when it rains.

Re:Yes, but ... (4, Informative)

marcansoft (727665) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861382)

The space station is at most 460km above the Earth. Not counting bouncing around support satellites, the lag is only going to be a millisecond or two. People have this misconception that the ISS is far from the Earth, while in reality it's not that high up.

Even if they have to bounce through a satellite in GEO (which is some 100 times farther away than the ISS and the farthest you're going to get for comms), that's, say, 300ms Earth-GEO-ISS, so the total ping time would be 600ms. No good for Counter-Strike, but still quite tolerable.

Small and simple things (1)

igadget78 (1698420) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861182)

One small step for man. One giant tweet for mankind.

Re:Small and simple things (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30862186)

One small step for man. One giant skeet for mankind.

Fixed that for you.
Just give 'em a week...

Terrible idea (4, Funny)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861220)

In a week it's going to look like a snow globe in there!

Re:Terrible idea (4, Funny)

Leafheart (1120885) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861552)

Why do you think they packed extra socks this time?

RFC1149 (4, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861248)

I guess the vacuum of space was too much of a challenge to overcome with RFC1149 IP datagrams.

Re:RFC1149 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861410)

indeed someone should patch this to include space pigeons

Re:RFC1149 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861434)

LOL at the +1 Informative mod

Finally: Space Pirates! (1)

ArbitraryDescriptor (1257752) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861286)

They need to hop on ye ole usenet and download something.

The first tweet sent back into space (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861298)

TJ Creamer:

Hello Twitterverse! We r now LIVE tweeting from the International Space Station -- the 1st live tweet from Space! :) More soon, send your ?s

about 9 hours ago from web

wssp crmr, I jst wna knw hw ths lk in 0g (*)(*)
all out of ?, hng 10

mmm let me see... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861322)

Next we will hear about chinese hackers stealing military from the ISS secrets via IE6.

Wasted opportunity (5, Insightful)

Evildonald (983517) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861412)

I can't believe with all that time they've got up there, they wasted their first tweet not writing

That's one small tweet for man. One giant tweet for mankind.

Re:Wasted opportunity (1)

mininab (1544283) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861860)

And I can't believe they had a smiley in it. Well I guess he can't be fired now, so why bother with anything.

Re:Wasted opportunity (2, Funny)

ehud42 (314607) | more than 4 years ago | (#30862112)

Which after years of controversy and intense packet analysis would finally be corrected as "That's one small tweet for a man. One giant tweet for mankind".

Online Ordering (5, Funny)

crsuperman34 (1599537) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861426)

Thank you for your online order; Online Pizza Delivery status: "6-12 months, Pending Space Shuttle availability; NEW click here for 2 day super saver shipping"

Twitter might be good for NASA. (1)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861518)

Thinking about it, twitter might be a good way for NASA to get the youngsters interested. Many people seemingly have the attention-span of a tweet now, but NASA things tend to be, let's say, "more involved" (meaning longer, methodical and boring), but that's the reality of safe space travel.

Anything that gets more people interested and supportive is a good thing - even if it's something as inane as Twitter.

Reply to the first tweet. (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861734)

Thinking about it, twitter might be a good way for NASA to get the youngsters interested. Many people seemingly have the attention-span of a tweet now, but NASA things tend to be, let's say, "more involved" (meaning longer, methodical and boring), but that's the reality of safe space travel.

Reply to the first tweet from space: tl;dr [urbandictionary.com]

Security? (1)

necoutis (1724248) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861570)

Are we sure this is wise? I mean how long can it be until the Chinese root the friggin space station?

Previous access (1)

twistah (194990) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861600)

Previous astronaut tweets had been posted by a third party on the ground via email.

So, then, they did have SOME access before?

Re:Previous access (1)

robot256 (1635039) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861806)

Only on secure data links to NASA HQ with very limited uptime. See this previous /. on ISS email access [slashdot.org]

FINALLY!! (1)

compsci06 (1677342) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861674)

Ladies and gentlemen, we now have pr0n in space! :D

Lag (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861702)

I can only imagine the lag they must have in LEO it would make AOL almost seem worth it. They might have something about that in the article but I can't read NASA.gov at work. (Guess they don't want us getting smarter)

ISS Orbit WiFi Record (1)

starbugs (1670420) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861840)

src: wikipedia

(Wi-Fi) distance records (using non-standard devices) include 382 km (237 mi) in June 2007.

(ISS) maintained at an orbit between 278 km (173 mi) and 460 km (286 mi) altitude.

If their laptops don't have their wi-fi cards removed, that would make for some out-of-this-world wardriving.

MMMMMMM! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30861906)

MMMMM - Porn!

They tweeted form space in May (1)

SirCodeAlot (574117) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861954)

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/05/13/twitter.space/ [cnn.com] wtf?? how many times wil they have the 1st tweet from space?

Re:They tweeted form space in May (1)

Tokerat (150341) | more than 4 years ago | (#30862098)

That was the first tweet sent from a person in orbit. It was relayed to a ground controller who actually did the posting. Today's tweet was the first one actually transmitted from space.

Pr0n in Space!!! (1)

Virtucon (127420) | more than 4 years ago | (#30861982)

Now they can watch Pr0n at 18000 miles per hour! This is truly a giant leap for mankind!

This ushers in a whole new swarm of patents..... (1)

NiteShaed (315799) | more than 4 years ago | (#30862016)

Instead of filing a patent by just appending "on the internet" to every idea anyone's ever had, now they'll be adding "in space". I can see it now: "Business process patent describing the sales of books to previously known customers -- on the internet -- in space". There you go Amazon, this one's for you.....

Full browsing is not Internet (1)

VincenzoRomano (881055) | more than 4 years ago | (#30862128)

In my lingo "internet access" is the full (or a reasonable part) of the TCP/IP stack. Something like all TCP and UDP ports in both directions plus SCPT (transport), ICMP and IPSec (internet layer).
What the astronatus have is an HTTP proxy server!

TranqBay Here... (1)

The Wild Norseman (1404891) | more than 4 years ago | (#30862146)

OMG! teh Eagle has landed! W00t!

That's Nice (1)

myspace-cn (1094627) | more than 4 years ago | (#30862192)

It really is nice.

Even if it has satellite lag it's nice. And the Human Race is better for it.

Now with that said, we have some problems on Earth.
Constitution
Electronic Vote Tabulation Devices
Corporate Owned Public Spectrum
State Secrets covering corruption
Banksters
and on and on and on

But I will take the chance to sniff the rose proposed to the people or Earth from the ISS above us.

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