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Apple Tablet Rumor Wrap Up

CmdrTaco posted more than 4 years ago | from the long-time-coming dept.

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Since the Apple event is this afternoon, and the submission bin overflows with Apple Tablet rumor stories, I'm putting up a few of the more choice links here so we can all speculate for the next few hours. A McGraw Hill CEO confirmed the tablet on CNBC last night, basically saying it is a big iPhone that has content agreements with publishers. Another blogger wrote in with a expectation list for the event, and technologizer had a nice history of fail in the world of tablet computing. Feel free to add your own rumor, speculation, and exhausted eye rolling below.

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Apple Bets Farm on Heterosexual Computing (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30917472)

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Re:Apple Bets Farm on Heterosexual Computing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30917574)

Don't feed the troll!

Apple's strategy (4, Interesting)

schmidt349 (690948) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917486)

Sure it could be the next G4 Cube, but I think Apple's approach to emerging new computing niches gives them a fighting chance. Microsoft just throws Windows on the device complete with all the crappy desktop metaphors and UI widgets that are completely irrelevant to the new form factor -- witness Windows Mobile and all the Windows tablets. Apple at least rethinks usability.

Re:Apple's strategy (4, Insightful)

Finallyjoined!!! (1158431) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917526)

Correction: Apple at least rethinks usability properly.

Microsoft bungs hundreds of millions at "usability" & we end up with the stupid ribbon... Pah!

Re:Apple's strategy (5, Interesting)

digitig (1056110) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918188)

Correction: Apple at least rethinks usability properly. Microsoft bungs hundreds of millions at "usability" & we end up with the stupid ribbon... Pah!

Do you really think the ribbon was anything to do with usability? As far as I can see, it was about having a patentable UI element that OO.o and its ilk couldn't copy.

Re:Apple's strategy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30918488)

Who would even want to copy that piece of crap? It was one of the reasons I switched to OpenOffice in the first place.

Ribbon might be a bad example (4, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918232)

Microsoft bungs hundreds of millions at "usability" & we end up with the stupid ribbon

I'm not convinced that "the stupid ribbon" is the best example of your thesis. Perhaps it is easier for novices to learn a program's tabbed toolbar than a program's menu bar. For one thing, recasting a pull-down menu as a toolbar keeps a class of actions on the screen where the user can see them rather than overlapping the document and disappearing once the user chooses an action. As I understand it, most of the whining about Ribbon came from 1. people who rely on muscle memory from previous versions of the product, the same sort of people who would get confused between Microsoft Office and OpenOffice.org anyway, and 2. people concerned about the legal fees of putting up prior art from 2002 [codeguru.com] to invalidate the patents that Microsoft engineers were applying for over tabbed toolbars. Sure, Ribbon has room for improvement, but it took a couple iterations for Apple to get pull-down menus right too.

Re:Apple's strategy (1, Insightful)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917932)

I don't mind Apple trying new things, but I fail to see what this device has going for it that is essentially "New".

It sounds like it'll be either an IPhone thats too big to fit in my pocket, or a small, touchscreen Netbook, Whereas I don't particularily have a need. If it doesn't fit in my pocket, it goes in a bag. If I'm putting it in a bag, the bag is about the size of a brief case. I don't see where in my adventures it'll be any more practical for me to pull out a tablet than it will be to pull out a Macbook.

I honestly think Microsofts Touch-Table-Top-Screen-Thing has more applications than this. But all in all, they are both "Meh" products.

Re:Apple's strategy (4, Interesting)

Wingsy (761354) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918076)

"I don't mind Apple trying new things, but I fail to see what this device has going for it that is essentially "New"."

Ya think that may be because you haven't even seen it yet?

Re:Apple's strategy (5, Interesting)

Low Ranked Craig (1327799) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918106)

Depends on what you want. If this device is essentially a big iPod touch, and has a good online store for e-books, this is exactly what I want. A device that will let me read a book, listen to music, watch a movie, and browse the internet. I really wanted a kindle but the thing is a unitasker with an e-ink screen and that doesn't work for me. I don't want this to do coding or write documents. This will be much more convenient to carry than my MacBook.

Re:Apple's strategy (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30918414)

I fail to see what this device has going for it that is essentially "New".

Lock-in. Ten years ago, would anyone have predicted that products like the iPhone or the Kindle could possibly have any success at all? Back then, it looked like there was a trend toward more freedom, and new products would be competing to be more open and usable than one another.

Somehow, in the last decade, the personal computer market has accepted (in the sense of people actually spend money on some of the products) that personal computers don't need to be totally open to developers; that personal computers can use the same development model as video game consoles, and some people (maybe a minority, but a big enough niche to make a profit and get a SHITLOAD of publicity) will actually buy them.

So what's new here? Well, look at the tablets of the past: they were programmable by the Little People. They were personal computers in the old sense, where when you bought one, you totally owned it, and you could even start a software business on one if you wanted to, with no limits to what you could do. Not this time. This time it's going to be closed up, have a centralized app store that only sells approved products, and yet people are considering it newsworthy and even predict some success.

This isn't some obscure wackjob company that you can safely laugh at by default when they try to commit atrocities against hackers; it's Apple. The atrocities are there, but not the laughter. The mockery will be there, but tinged with a very real feeling of fear and bitterness. This fucking piece of shit just might still be in the news the day after tomorrow. And that's sobering. We're nearing the end of the personal computer revolution that took off about 3 decades ago. We're seeing Apple destroy something that they played such an important part in creating. That's news. First it was the handheld, now it's something bigger. In a few years: the desktop?

Re:Apple's strategy (3, Insightful)

Tom (822) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918376)

Microsoft just throws Windows on the device complete with all the crappy desktop metaphors and UI widgets that are completely irrelevant to the new form factor -- witness Windows Mobile and all the Windows tablets. Apple at least rethinks usability.

Apple at least thinks about usability. When's the last time that MS did that? I can tell you: Just prior to the launch of Win95, after even the final user testing showed that this "start button" concept is stupid, dumb, user-unfriendly and counterintuitive. They finally put the "Start" label on it (it was just the windos logo before that, yes a straight copy from the Apple logo on the Apple menu bar, except that that's always been on the menu bar where users expect menu things to be) and then added the "click here to start" animation when you first launch the OS, because even the label wasn't enough.

That's how MS thinks about "usability". Explains a lot about the trainwreck that every new windos edition adds to, doesn't it?

Why Obama will never be "Reagan" (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30918392)

First, he'd have to get rid of his seething hatred for the average Joe just trying to provide for his family. You know, what Obama used to be. Then he'd have to get rid of the complex he's obviously developed from his rise from Average Joe to Emperor of the World. He hates what he was, and he hates what he's become. Before he deals with those two major personal issues, it's useless for him to keep trying to swing from Reagan's dick.

Early Prediction (2, Insightful)

pete-wilko (628329) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917500)

My prediction: that the massive amount of hype built up for this will mean a spectacular write-up of the device regardless of the quality - or else there will be a lot of egg on various 'tech reporters' faces. Also I loved the penny-arcade comic on this: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/1/22/ [penny-arcade.com]

Re:Early Prediction (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917656)

Definitely. In fact I'd be surprised if a lot of sites haven't already done the write up and are just waiting to add in a few keywords from the speech so they can be first to publish. I love that Apple are thinking about style and usability, but at this rate they won't even need to try pretty soon (maybe today is that tipping point, we'll see).

My toilet (5, Funny)

digitalsushi (137809) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917506)

I'm excited, cause this is going to really shrink down the pile of magazines on my toilet tank! I love how Apple can always class up everything I do in life.

Re:My toilet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30917668)

Who reads magazines? Seriously.

Re:My toilet (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30917738)

Yeah, I'm getting me a Japanese version of the Apple tablet that'll wipe and wash my ass afterwards.

Re:My toilet (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30918054)

I use the FSF version. No wiping or washing but I can share my ass with all my friends.

I'll wait for a clone (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30917546)

Think of how frustrated other hardware makers are racing to create a clone of a device they haven't seen.

Re:I'll wait for a clone (1)

delinear (991444) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917714)

I should imagine that the hardware for a tablet (assuming it IS a tablet they're announcing and that it doesn't do something astoundingly revolutionary with the hardware beyond giving it nice rounded corners) is pretty stable by now, it will be in the software that the potential gains will lie. What can they do with the UI and functionality to allow it to succeed where so many tablets have failed, that will be the big question.

Re:I'll wait for a clone (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30918418)

That's what everyone said about the smartphone market...until the iPhone came out and all the hardware manufacturers went "Oh shit!" And all the software manufacturers went "How can we copy that?"

Re:I'll wait for a clone (1)

SpinyManiac (542071) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917846)

Axiotron [axiotron.com] are clearly worried about it, they've got a sale on. They convert Macbooks into tablets, who would buy one if Apple enter the market?

Re:I'll wait for a clone (4, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918036)

An Apple tablet would certainly be bad news for them; but they might have a future among people who want OSX in tablet form.

Unless Steve Jobs accidentally mind-melds with Richard Stallman in the next hour or so, the tablet is almost certainly going to be a hard-locked app-store only product. Further, the odds that it is x86 are somewhere between slim and none, and slim is bleeding to death.

If most of Axiotron's customers were more or less casual users who just had to have an Apple tablet for some reason, they are completely fucked. If, though, they are substantially people who want to be able to draw directly on the screen in photoshop, or otherwise do full OSX stuff in tablet form, they might survive.

Re:I'll wait for a clone (1)

park3r (833325) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918070)

That's assuming the tablet Apple releases will be a touchscreen Macbook. The device they're probably going to unveil is, according to rumors, a large iPhone/iPod Touch running some variant of the same operating system. They're saying it's basically a large mobile device optimized for ebook reading and other media. A Modbook would be a different class of device.

It will have (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30917556)

I hear it will shine your shoes and brush your teeth, comb your hair and press your trousers, have a swiss army knife on the side, and either dispense coffee or pizza, based on how configured at time of purchase. Special deals are made with Kiwi shoe wax, Colgate, Avon, GE, Dunkin Donuts, and Pizza Hut.

Touch screen apps has come of age (2, Insightful)

Twillerror (536681) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917564)

Looking at the history of the tablet it always seems to be a PC with a touch screen. MS Word or Excel and a tablet don't go together.

The start menu, task bar, and general navigation of a full blown PC (win or mac) doesn't directly translate.

It is very likely that this tablet will just be a big ole iPhone. I think everyone who has used their smart phone on their couch has gone "God I wish the screen was just a few more inches".

The "content" portion of the web will translate very well to the new tablets.

Any app that requires but load of editing...especially with text won't work. Imagine writing a book, some C++ code, or fill in a form with 20 inputs on one of these things. Even with a slide out keyboard these sort of tasks suck. People will make simple music and video editors...but real work just has to be done on a full pc.

That said the tablet could be put in a doc and instead of translating the pc to a tablet...it'll be the other way around. This is where MS might have some advantage for some folks...especially in business.

A Chrome OS tablet has to follow with what is essentially an Android phone with a slightly bigger screen. MS will come out with something like Windows with a simple interface...or Zune(just rebrand the thing already MS).

Wouldn't it be great if you could get one tablet with all three OSs....

Re:Touch screen apps has come of age (1, Insightful)

gad_zuki! (70830) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917696)

>I think everyone who has used their smart phone on their couch has gone "God I wish the screen was just a few more inches".

But Im not willing to pay $800-$1500 or whatever the tablet costs for the privilege of casual couch surfing. Especially when I can just park a laptop on a side table next to my couch and have a full fledged system for $500.

Not to mention, some of the apps Id like to run have been banned by Apple's censors. I dont know why Id spend all that money for a gimped machine.

Re:Touch screen apps has come of age (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30917820)

But some people will....and a lot of people will want to. I didn't spend $600 on an iPod, but I have several now that the price has come down.

Re:Touch screen apps has come of age (3, Insightful)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918374)

But Im not willing to pay $800-$1500 or whatever the tablet costs for the privilege of casual couch surfing.

Then don't. This product isn't for you. Why is it when ever Apple does *anything* Slashdot takes it as a personal affront? The iPod (lame), the iPhone (better Smartphones exist), the newest MacBook Pros (No Express Card slot), The built in batteries, etc. Apple, or any other company, isn't forcing you to do anything.

When McLaren or Maybach come out with new cars do you all complain that they're over priced and don't appeal to you? Why do you do it with computers?

Sort of reminds me of this xkcd. [xkcd.com] Fine, the Apple tablet doesn't appeal to you, why even bother making a comment?

Re:Touch screen apps has come of age (2, Interesting)

delinear (991444) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917818)

Yeah, with a dock for the office I can think of a bunch of niche areas this could fill nicely. I can't see how it could fully replace a significant portion of the desktop or laptop markets, but maybe that's the idea (since Apple already sell into both markes, it's likely just an attempt to close down on anyone else capturing that niche in the middle and a few stragglers from either market). Of course, a bunch of people will also buy it because of who made it, and a few more to use for couch surfing / as a remote interface for other devices in their home. I've seen dozens of articles saying it will revolutionise the e-book market, that claim I'm quite dubious about. Having tried to read books on big screen PDAs and laptops, it just doesn't feel right - some combination of e-ink and transparent OLED seems to be the right answer there, and if this was that I'm sure we'd already know about it.

Staying with Paper (1, Insightful)

BodhiCat (925309) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917568)

I am not giving up my paper books. They just have a certain feel. I love sitting up at night reading with a bowl of snacks next to me. I just can't see using a Kindel or Tablet for most of my reading.

Re:Staying with Paper (2, Interesting)

Cronock (1709244) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917752)

Paper books can be great for many things. I'm not a fiction reader at all, but I have tons of educational/instructional books for my certifications and hobbies. These books get outdated quickly and have overflowed my bookshelf. I really hate the idea of throwing away $50+ books. I would love to get these electronically and be able to archive them and mostly forget about them, but still have them in the event that I'd have to go back and relearn something from years ago. Doing that without having 125lb boxes in storage in the garage would be a nice advantage. And anyone who moves a lot knows the feeling of dread you get when you reach the "Books Very Heavy!" box.

Re:Staying with Paper (3, Interesting)

genghisjahn (1344927) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917762)

I love books. I love the old books smell. I love (or loved) going through used books stores and finding good stuff. After having a Kindle, I wish all of my content was on the Kindle. Having it all sync from the Kindle, to the PC, to the iPhone is freakin' great. Yes, I know some of you have DRM concerns. Yes they are valid, but I'm talking about the eReader vs. paper as a medium. I don't care about the medium anymore. There is nothing sacred about the pages of a bound book. It's the story or information that I want and the Kindle environment provides it better. When my Kindle was stolen a few weeks back, I didn't lose all my content. All my notes, highlights and books were available on my iPhone and through the PC. When I replaced the Kindle, everything came right back. It's not a perfect device, but it's a damn good one. I'm eager to see what the arms race in eReaders provides in the future.

I was considering one to replace my macbook (4, Interesting)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917580)

but if the rumors of it running the iPhone OS are true, I will pass. Not being able to easily load whatever software I want on to the thing is a big turnoff. Not to mention the class of programs that can run on the iPhone OS are pretty limited(I doubt Apple will release XCode for the tablet....)

Re:I was considering one to replace my macbook (2, Insightful)

BodhiCat (925309) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917676)

Ya, two things about the iphone that limit its usability: 1. small keyboard 2. lack of a good text editing program. The tablet could solve the keyboard problem by having a bigger screen, but if it doesn't have a good text editing program, then its just an iphone/ipod-touch that's too big to put in your pocket.

Re:I was considering one to replace my macbook (3, Insightful)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917750)

That and lack of flash support, love it or hate it, a lot of sites have yet to upgrade to html5 for video, so we are stuck with flash. Unless Apple has struck a deal with Adobe to allow flash on the tablet, there are going to be a lot of web sites that aren't accessible from the tablet.

Re:I was considering one to replace my macbook (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30917774)

Even a bigger screen will not make the key board any better; there's no real feed back like on a real keyboard. I need some tactial feedback.

Re:I was considering one to replace my macbook (2, Informative)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917824)

iPhone OS can mean a variety of things. It definitely means an ARM CPU, possibly from Apple's in-house team (I've not head much from PA Semi since Apple bought them). It doesn't necessarily mean UIKit-only. There's no technical reason why you can't run AppKit apps on an iPhone, Apple just chose not to include the framework. This was done for a couple of reasons, but the most important one was to force developers to redesign their UI for the small screen, not just recompile Mac apps and call them iPhone apps. With a tablet, this reason goes away, because the screen is larger, and it could easily handle full ports of Mac apps and iPhone apps. If they do include AppKit, then it becomes a third CPU to support for Mac developers, but if your code already runs on PowerPC and x86, then it's going to work on ARM with a straight recompile unless you use any inline assembly. Just tick the 'Tablet' box in the targets inspector in XCode and recompile.

So... (5, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917586)

Was the McGraw-Hill guy one of Apple's planned leaks, or is he going to start waking up, sweating bullets, to 3AM phone calls from Steve Jobs?

"Terry, you have shown all the subtlety and restraint of somebody who sells dead trees for a living. Know that your pain shall be equalled only by my serenity."

At this point the line goes dead. Terry will never know if this is because Steve is fucking with him, or if it is just AT&T's shitty service disconnecting Steve's iPhone.

Re:So... (2, Funny)

BitwizeGHC (145393) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918002)

You know how Obama got a special BlackBerry?

Well, Steve gets a special iPhone.

Talks to his own personal comms satellite. You can always hear him now.

Re:So... (1)

WilliamBaughman (1312511) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918122)

"Terry, you have shown all the subtlety and restraint of somebody who sells dead trees for a living. Know that your pain shall be equalled only by my serenity."

I think that's the funniest thing I've read in the last year, bravo! In all seriousness, the CEO or Orange (Stéphane Richard) already hinted at video chat, so I doubt that Terry McGraw is first on "the list." Further, I don't think that either has spilled the beans in the way that ATI did in 2000 which made Apple kill all mention of ATI being in the G4 Cube...

overgrown iPhone / iPod Touch (2, Interesting)

WillAdams (45638) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917594)

Givens:

  - upgraded iPhone OS
  - ARM or custom CPU
  - purchase content through iTunes
  - ebooks will be extensions of Apple's ``LP'' format so will be multi-media w/ HTML, CSS, and nice cover graphics / icons in the interface

Possibilities:

  - handwriting recognition
  - stylus

Not going to happen:

  - Intel chip
  - run Mac OS X apps

William
(who will be getting an Axiotron Modbook instead)

Re:overgrown iPhone / iPod Touch (1)

dropadrop (1057046) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917966)

My thoughts too. Apple is earning too much from the App Store to make this a traditional "osx device". I would not be surprised for multitasking, but apps will come through the store.

Re:overgrown iPhone / iPod Touch (5, Interesting)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918180)

Apple is earning too much from the App Store

I take it you missed yesterday where Apple disclosed in their financials that they don't make a profit from the app store directly, only through increased hardware sales?

Re:overgrown iPhone / iPod Touch (1)

neoform (551705) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917998)

Handwriting recognition technology/research is even further off than speech recognition. If it's included, it will surely be a stapled on feature and not something core to the product.

Re:overgrown iPhone / iPod Touch (2, Informative)

lordholm (649770) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918326)

The handwriting classifier tests I have seen (included a number of variants such as ANNs and SVM kernel machines), in general faired better than human beings on handwriting recognition.

you know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30917606)

I REALLY wish someone would just completely release true specs of the tablet, if it exists, before Apple does. Not because I would get any enjoyment out of knowing about the device, I just get a lot of satisfaction at watching Steve Jobs throw a tantrum because his ridiculous product release drama got sabotaged.

Call me a Cynic (2, Interesting)

COMON$ (806135) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917610)

While I am excited about this device I theorize it will be just good enough to sell and give some ooo's and aaaahhh's but largely it will fall short of the mark so we can buy the next models. This is by design for good profitability. However I think that if Apple releases a less than complete product now, they risk the google netbook or another slate device stealing the market from them.

TV and Kindle Competitor (2, Interesting)

PackMan97 (244419) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917648)

My predictions: 1. TV Replacement - Built in HDTV antenna , will work with Apple TV or another wireless TV spec to stream TV directly to the tablet. Sure, we know about internet TV and hulu, but I'm talking over the air TV and live TV. Killer feature for something this size. 2. Kindle Competitor - My bet is a new display type that has a very low power ambient light setting that allows the screen to be as easy on the eyes as a Kindle or other eInk reader. So, while this will be a laptop/phone hybrid, it's really going to go after the TV/Paper publishing angle for it to have mass appeal. While it can surf the web and do general laptoppy/phone things...I see it as really something that's looking to create a new market and kill netbooks and eReaders all in one swoop.

Re:TV and Kindle Competitor (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30917798)

My prediction... more predictions, up to, during, and after the announcement.

Then a flood of CmdrTaco/iPod references, followed by a lot of stone throwing at Apple fanbois by Tux fanbois.

Best rumor source yet... (4, Interesting)

rayharris (1571543) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917718)

Jason Calacanis got his tablet 10 days ago

http://twitter.com/jason [twitter.com]

Highlights:

- $599, $699, $799 depending on size and memory
- iPhone OS with multitasking
- OLED screen (no size given)
- Verizon and ATT for 3G, WiFi
- Front and back cameras for video conferencing
- Thumbpad on each side for mouse gestures
- Fingerprint scanner for login with up to five profiles
- TV/Monitor output and wireless keyboard
- HDTV Tuner with PVR
- Solar panel for recharging (more a gimmick)
- Battery life is "great" in ebook mode, 2-3 hours otherwise
- No word on name

Re:Best rumor source yet... (1)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917790)

hehehe... that guy is full of it. "apple tablet connects to other tablets over wifi for gaming. There will be LAN parties with these things, people playing First person shooters"

Re:Best rumor source yet... (1)

rayharris (1571543) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917848)

Yeah, he claims a custom "Farmville" apps is awesome. I guess some people are easily amused. But the rest of the specs seem pretty much in line. We'll see in a little bit.

Re:Best rumor source yet... (1)

zzyzx (15139) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917978)

It's the TV output that makes this interesting to me. Could this be an Apple TV that actually works? Add a decent digital audio out, the ability to stream from iTunes, and a decent (256-512 gigs) amount of storage space and this device becomes a lot more interesting as a portable video player.

Re:Best rumor source yet... (3, Funny)

Low Ranked Craig (1327799) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918204)

Bio: "I'm a cereal entrepreneur: Founder of Weblogs, Inc., TechCrunch50, Silicon Alley Reporter, Engadget & Mahalo.com"

Mmmm. cereal.

Patience (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917732)

The real announcement will be in 2-3 hours (depending on previous chatting and other products they want to be sure everyone knows about before the big one),and according to the rumors, will be available to the public at least in march.

So, why hurry? Probably won't be nothing earth shattering, with high odds that will be essentially a road to approved-by-them apps, DRMd content, and not so top of the line hardware. Probably there were already announced in CES enough good and open alternatives to it.

Of course,could be big surprises, like announcing a game [pidjin.net]

Re:Patience (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30917856)

That was awesome cant stop laughing. Thank you!

Re:Patience (2, Insightful)

Eponymous Coward (6097) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917872)

Why hurry? For some people, it's fun.

How about a bad analogy? Compare it to the superbowl. Why speculate on how the game will go or even bother watching it? It will be over soon and you can just find out the score.

Rumors? Bah (3, Insightful)

darjen (879890) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917742)

I just don't care much for all this speculation and rumors. Waste of time in my book. Wait for the device to come out and judge it on its merits.

Re:Rumors? Bah (1)

Arthur Grumbine (1086397) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918146)

...judge it on its merits.

Blasphemy! May the Lord strike thee down with a mighty vengeance! May His turtleneck-clad arm rain righteous retribution down upon thee, and may all thy children and thy children's children be cast into the fiery pits of Unpopularity!

What, and end the habits of a lifetime? (1)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918200)

Half the Internet is porn, half of it is unverified rumors. Only one tenth of it is actually useful.*

*Yes, I know this adds up to more than one. Five percent is overlap (some porn and rumors are useful) and five percent is because since you did the last survey, traffic has gone up by 5%.

Major Scoop (5, Funny)

GraZZ (9716) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917756)

Apple will today announce a partnership with Taco Bell to deliver tacos wirelessly through the new iTablet. This will prove to be the final nail in OLPC's coffin as the west moves to end world hunger via electronic food distribution.

Also it will wash the dishes.

Speculating on rumour is pointless (1)

benwiggy (1262536) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917806)

OFFS.

Whilst I'm intrigued by the rumours (half of which are Apple-generated to build up hype, the other of which are created by people who think they know what's in Steve's head), comment on them is pretty pointless, and falls into the following categories:

[ ] No one will buy this. Epic fail.

[ ] Missed opportunity to add technology X

[ ] I like it, but it's too expensive

[ ] This is going to change everything.

Apple tablet and SAAB (1)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917838)

Both on the same day. Those of us for whom it's only a frigging computer or only a frigging car can get on with some work.

The funny thing is, I can remember when SAABs were above the run of middle manager mobiles, and when Apple hardware really was superior to much of the competition. But those days are long gone.

The thing to watch - the thing that car makers and vanity goods makers don't tell you - is the percentage of their budget that is marketing. The really good stuff is the stuff that is not cheap but sells with hardly any marketing budget.

Being old and boring I shall continue to make do with my laptop that has an all-black carbon fibre reinforced case and my car that has a little silver propeller for a brand symbol. After several years of heavy use of both I can't find anything that would persuade me to change. It would certainly take a bit more than a tablet PC or a car brought to you by the guys who produced the Lada.

state of the apple address (0, Offtopic)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917896)

apple->music industry: conquered

apple->movie industry: hostile natives, sending in missionaries and evangelists of the "future"

apple->print industry: conquest being launched, lift off seconds away

genuine future:

internet->music: free*

internet->movies: free**

internet->print: free***

*creators will make money from live gigs, promotions, advertising, personalized content, etc. no distributors needed. distributors will evolve into hype machines and portals/ gateways delivering mass audiences to content. creators will continue to sign contracts to them for a cut of revenue, for delivering audiences. but its not necessary to sign a contract at all to become successful, its voluntary and usually for the pop bands

**the movie industry has always, and will always, despite every new tech threatening to kill it, fill cinema houses and make money thataways

***ad revenue is real and genuine for newspapers and will always exist. it will be a lot smaller, yes. and some superstar reporters will spin off from newspapers and become their own internet reporting gateways (see nikki finke: http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/ [deadline.com] ). in this way the internet will "atomize" some newspaper reporting where the departments/ individual reporters will report directly to readers, unrelated to any particular newspaper, much like musicians don't need distributors anymore. despite all the doom and gloom about newspapers, nothing on the internet can ever or will ever replace the service, for example, the poughkeepsie journal delivers for the residents of poughkeepsie, new york ( http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/ [poughkeepsiejournal.com] )

It is good marketing (5, Funny)

MikeURL (890801) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917898)

No less a visionary than Bill Gates talked about the form factor problem years ago. An iPhone is great for what it is--something you can fit in your pocket. A desktop, at the other end, is good for what it does (large screen, hefty processing and video power, etc). Then there is the middle which is currently served by notebooks and, more recently, netbooks.

As an "ecosystem" play it makes perfect sense for Apple to have an offering that covers each form factor. With the intro of a tablet you can have an Apple desktop, something intermediate and an iPhone-- all the current form factor bases will be covered. It makes perfect sense because it has the potential to finally leverage the strength of the iPhone, up to the tablet and finally up to the Apple desktop. Someone with all three of those devices controled by Apple would be locked in in a way that Bill G could hardly even fantasize about. I'm sure by now the marketing boys at Apple have figured this all out in excruciating detail.

If it doesn't allow (1)

thrillseeker (518224) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917900)

me to take notes on it with some sort of stylus, then it's worthless to me.

Re:If it doesn't allow (1)

mikael_j (106439) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918442)

I feel the same way except instead of note-taking I want to be able to sketch/draw/paint with it, it doesn't have to be a full-fledged Painter clone but a decent digitizer (on-par with say, the old Graphire3) and something along the lines of Sketchbook Pro (damn good program with only one real shortcoming, there is no way to rotate your workspace unless you actually want to rotate the actual image which results on data loss over the long run, but it's sweet on a tablet or a Cintiq).

/Mikael

A "tablet" (1)

UseCase (939095) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917926)

Its an enima that once consumed attaches itself to your spinal cord allowing you to "see" a HUD over every part of your life, download books and browse the web as a small glowing apple pulsates on your back. There is a rumored problem with overheating but otherwise....

Ha Ha, All jokes aside I think its going to be a game changer!!

Here is hoping a contract is not required (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 4 years ago | (#30917938)

to properly use all the features.

It is rumored you can buy it without a contract attached, I am just concerned one is still needed to access all the content available or for specific features.

Re:Here is hoping a contract is not required (1)

PhilHibbs (4537) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918206)

If it's like the iPhone, you will be able to use it over your wifi. Does it need to be connected all the time, everywhere? Are you going to whip out your i (that's my name prediction) and go online in the middle of nowhere? No, I don't think so, and the bandwidth that you will expect on a device of this size will disappoint you on 3G. Sure, it will have 3G, and you will be able to use it, but I expect that 95% of use of this device will be in the home.

I'll probably look silly in 3 hours time but... (1)

abigsmurf (919188) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918032)

All the rumours point to this being an expensive device, more expensive than a Pay as you go iPhone.

A lightweight, fast web browser you can use on the coach and with side use as an e-reader is a tempting proposition. However I would want that at a price comparable to a netbook.

I'm not going to pay £600+ for a pure fun gadget. It would need to be a real workhorse for that price and the failings of tablets in the past have shown they just don't cut it for heavy usage.

No high hopes. (1)

rindeee (530084) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918116)

If it's a full blown computer and has iChat (with built in front facing camera for video chat) then I'm in for up to $600. If it comes out of the box hamstrung with iPhone OS Appstore only apps...forget it. It wouldn't pay $300 for it. I'd love a tablet and there are a million uses I can think of for it, but if I can't go to Sourceforge and download my favorite OS X apps to run on it, it's no more useful than an iPod Touch. Regardless of any of this, if the $1,000 unsub price I've seen thrown around is accurate, there's no way on Earth I'll buy it. A tablet is less useful than a notebook (Macbook). I'm certainly not going to pay more for it.

iPredict (1)

PhilHibbs (4537) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918118)

iPad? iSlate? iTab? iNeedOneOfThese? No, just i. That's what I think. The device will be called the i, and it will run iOS (followed by another quick lawsuit and settlement with Cisco).

great (1)

pydev (1683904) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918136)

If Apple legitimizes 10" OLED tablets with capacitive screens as a product category, that's great. I really loathe the eInk readers.

However, I still prefer Android or Chrome as the OS, over OS X.

price $800 WITH 2 year data plan also locked down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30918210)

price $800 WITH 2 year data plan also locked down like the iphone. unlocked price $1000? $1200?

also all new macs other then the new 6 core $3000 mac pro are to come with data planes or no plan for $300 more.

Can't wait (1)

BlackHawk-666 (560896) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918244)

I can't wait to buy one so I can sit on my couch, with my favorite TV show playing, and this puppy on my lap allowing me to read all my COLOUR FUCKING PICTURE BOOKS! Honestly, if it's a Kindle replacement, great - but I don't read pop-up books with pictures of cute dogs anymore, black and while will be fine.

What is it good for, bar reading on the crapper - which I'm a fan of?

If I want to browse the web I have a comfy chair and desk with a decent PC for that. Same for music, video editing, email, anything that would involve me having to press more than 3-4 buttons repeatedly...hell, I don't even txt I find that too annoying. I'd rather call the person.

I could use it at the kitchen table as a uber geek way to give my family the 'book off' I guess. I could whip it out in cafes and make the other fools who only have iphone jealous. Though the iPhone does tuck away in the pocket a little better when getting there.

I could watch some tv on it, but my 46" LCD streaming H264 from my PC does that far better.

I could head into the garden and browse the web on it - but maybe I should be getting my face out of the days dramas and simply sit and enjoy the garden instead.

All it's really going to be good for is allowing data, drama, work and other tiresome issues to penetrate even further into our lives. There needs to be some places you can go and get away from that - for me, I walk away from my PC and it's all behind me. For others, they constantly suckle at the teet of Twitter like alcoholics on a bottle.

Seriously (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30918340)

I am about to come so hard!

Tablet PCs (2, Interesting)

MaWeiTao (908546) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918390)

One thing that we can be sure of is that Apple is going to tout this tablet like they've invented this type device. The people at Apple are smart in that they aren't early adopters of new technologies. Others do it first and run into the issues anyone will face with technology in it's infancy. The segments of the market generally starts petering out as those guys move onto devices and that's when Apple jumps in.

It helps immensely that developing both hardware and software Apple has the huge advantage of good integration. With every other hardware maker they have to go with whatever is available at the time. The software developers, mainly Microsoft and Google have to partner with a hardware company. That almost always consists of an existing product being customized to their needs. Unfortunately this always results in a compromised product. There's nothing like being able to do everything in-house with teams working back and forth.

I have a Sony tablet PC, which I got second-hand. It's the U70 if I'm not mistaken. It came out back in 04 or so, when PC makers were eager to push the technology. It runs Windows XP and performs reasonably well actually. Unfortunately, these things were mainly hindered by the OS. Instead of developing a customized OS to enhance usability they were basically making them full-fledged PCs but more compact. This generally made them a pain to operate. I suppose it was just a sign of the times, because although Sony offered various on-screen input methods the keyboard was generally not given much on-screen real estate. They were still expecting users to interact with the device using a stylus. The touchscreen itself was good but certainly doesn't compare with what is possible with the technology today. The upside was that I could connect a monitor and keyboard to the thing and use it like a regular PC.

The device was a novelty, as a tablet today is for most people. Mine sits around collecting dust most of the time. However, for a couple of weeks I used it when I was traveling and it was great. That's where the compact size is a real asset. Being able to pull that thing out and start browsing the web is excellent. And the good thing is that because it's a PC, basically, I get a proper browsing experience and can do anything I might need to do at home or in the office. It's not a compromised experience like Smartphones provide. However, the lack of a physical keyboard is a problem if you expect to do a lot of typing with the device. I'm sure touchscreen technology has improved to the point where typing on-screen is a bit better than it used to be, but it probably still won't be great. Some of the newer Sony tablets use integrated physical keyboards, but I'm not sure if those are any good.

The fact is, if you've got an iPhone, which most people interested in this tablet likely do, there's little need for this device. If this thing is running a version of the iPhone's OS then there's even less use for it. In my opinion a tablet should be a more portable alternative to a laptop, not a big brother to a mobile phone. Otherwise I expect these things to collect a lot of dust. I don't use my tablet PC for much of anything nowadays; I've installed automotive diagnostics software on it and even that doesn't get much use.

ehhh.... (1)

Ephemeriis (315124) | more than 4 years ago | (#30918434)

I'd like to see a tablet done right. Microsoft really hasn't delivered that yet. Maybe apple can. I've been impressed with their iPhone/iPod Touch.

But I guess I just don't see what all the excitement is about. It's a new piece of hardware. Sure, I like gadgets and all... But folks have been frenetically hunting down any hint of rumor about this thing for a year or so.

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