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With New SDK, VoIP Over 3G Apps Now Working On iPhone

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the try-reading-that-headline-15-years-ago dept.

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silverpig writes "Yesterday marked the announcement of the Apple iPad device, and with it came a new version of the SDK. In this new version, Apple has lifted the VoIP over 3G restrictions that limited VoIP traffic to wifi only. This morning, Fring announced that its iPhone app is 3G-capable starting immediately. No update is needed as apparently the app had 3G capability all along, but a server-side block prevented its use. Furthermore, apparently a 3G-capable version of Skype has been ready for some time now, and has been waiting for this restriction to be lifted."

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All markets? (3, Interesting)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938074)

It's nice to have this enabled finally. However, the mention that this is something blocked on the server side makes me wonder if this may only be relevant to specific markets.

Yes (1)

WiiVault (1039946) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938252)

From what I understand the issue was with the approval proccess. These apps have been ready for a long time but nobody bothered to submit them until Apple gave the go ahead. Assuming the mobile provider doesn't balk at it I think things are good to go in all markets.

Mighty big assumption (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938310)

Assuming the mobile provider doesn't balk at it

This is the reason for my question in the first place.

Re:Mighty big assumption (1)

jank1887 (815982) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939280)

not knowing how cell network traffic is handled, is VOIP more or less bandwidth intensive than a dedicated voice channel?

Re:Mighty big assumption (2, Informative)

ottothecow (600101) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939772)

Well, it runs over the 3g data network so it is infinitely more bandwidth intensive than a voice call. Voice calls go over a different path which is why you don't need data service (although those patches of land are quite rare these days) to make a call or send a text message.

Re:Yes (1)

silverpig (814884) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938960)

I don't think this had to do with approval. Apparently the Fring client had the feature, but for some reason it didn't work until this morning. "How do I get this update? You don’t need to do anything to get this update. Just open fring on your iPhone and you are good to go! If you still get the message that “voip calls are not allowed” – Just click on “More” –> “Go offline” and open fring again."

Re:All markets? (2, Insightful)

jgagnon (1663075) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938758)

I suspect that people will more fully understand how it affects them when they look at their next bill. ;)

I'm not special anymore (4, Interesting)

jgtg32a (1173373) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938112)

One of the best parts about my iPhone being jailbroken was that little hack that let you use VOIP over 3g.

Re:I'm not special anymore (4, Funny)

Monkeedude1212 (1560403) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938212)

I guess you could go catch a virus thats exclusive to Jailbroken iPhones. Would that make you feel better?

Re:I'm not special anymore (4, Informative)

WaXHeLL (452463) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938558)

You mean the viruses for those people who were stupid enough to leave OpenSSH running on their iphone, with the default login/pw?

Re:I'm not special anymore (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30938910)

Are we starting to understand the idea behind the iPad yet?

Re:I'm not special anymore (1)

jgtg32a (1173373) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939576)

Well to be fair, OpenSSH doesn't exactly stay shutdown, there are a few different conditions where it was reactivate itself.

Re:I'm not special anymore (4, Informative)

Lars T. (470328) | more than 4 years ago | (#30941062)

http://www.findmysoft.com/news/Security-and-Functionality-Why-Not-Jailbreak-Your-iPhone/ [findmysoft.com]

According to security expert Charlie Miller, jailbroken iPhones are more vulnerable than non-jailbroken And Charlie Miller should know what he is talking about. After all, he is credited for uncovering the security issue that spawned the first Google Android update, and he did manage to break the Apple developed Safari browser in about 10 seconds and this year’s PWN2OWN competition. While jailbreaking the device is a great way to use the iPhone’s full potential, it also means that you remove all the security protections that Apple built into the device’s software. You will be able to install 3rd party app and other software applications that are not distributed via the iTunes Store, but you will also leave your device wide open to all sorts of attacks.

Re:I'm not special anymore (1)

Idbar (1034346) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940072)

How did that worked for you? I just tried Fring with my Asterisk server and the delay is unbearably high (I counted 7 second on my round trip test call), while my X-lite on my computer is less than 1 sec.

Re:I'm not special anymore (1)

Idbar (1034346) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940334)

Nevermind. My mistake, I had the gsm codec disabled for my iPhone setup and that was probably causing the excessive latency.

Lifted until? (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30938122)

Until Apple decides that they should be put back. Then anyone who thought VOIP was a good idea is SOL again. Vender lock-in for applications sucks. Apple should be shamed for trying to port this model to the iPad.

Re:Lifted until? (3, Insightful)

jgagnon (1663075) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938940)

Don't blame the vendor, blame the users that support the lock-in by supporting the vendor. Without them the vendor would be forced to change or go out of business.

Re:Lifted until? (0, Troll)

DevConcepts (1194347) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939172)

Don't blame the vendor, blame the users that support the lock-in by supporting the vendor. Without them the vendor would be forced to change or go out of business.

Blame the vendor, My WinMo runs Skype just fine on 3g. Has for quite awhile.
Funny thing, WinMo being more open than i(insert device)
P.S. I heard the next gen iPad would be called the Max iPad.

Re:Lifted until? (2, Insightful)

bonch (38532) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939420)

And since users have chosen the iPhone model and made it a success, they're obviously fine with it...so why blame anyone? Apple has chosen the appliance paradigm, and the users agreed with it.

Re:Lifted until? (2, Insightful)

jgagnon (1663075) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939816)

I was just pointing out that blaming a company for continuing to use a financially successful model is pointless. Successful businesses do what is good for business.

If someone really wants to blame someone for Apple's behavior, it should be the users that support Apple because they wouldn't be able to continue that behavior without the support they receive.

But I agree with you, if everyone on the inside agrees it is a good thing then the people on the outside need to stay out.

Re:Lifted until? (1)

Swift2001 (874553) | more than 4 years ago | (#30941538)

3.1 million activations by AT&T in the US this last quarter. Oh, those poor sheep!

If you're on the AT&T network, you have to abide by their conditions. I'm presuming either that AT&T has decided to open things up -- that the $60 for their unlimited data is enough -- or that Apple has plans of moving to other networks during the life of iPhone OS 3.2.

Re:Lifted until? (5, Insightful)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939196)

Wait!

So, first it's "Apple is evil, it;s so locked down! It sucks! They should open it!", and when they actually do open it up and enable new function that they had previously prevented (for whatever reason) it's "Apple is still evil! They will restrict it again!"

Which is it?

Do you want them to remove restrictions or not?

Re:Lifted until? (1)

Kohath (38547) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939842)

No. Go back and never restrict it to begin with! Apple is still evil until it was never evil from the beginning.

Re:Lifted until? (4, Funny)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940984)

Apple is still evil until it was never evil from the beginning.

Now don't go getting all biblical on us. Won't work because we understand recursion.

About time (4, Insightful)

WiiVault (1039946) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938130)

Now where's teathering for us poor AT&T "customers"?

Re:About time (2, Informative)

putch (469506) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938652)

it's in cydia.

Re:About time (1)

seandiggity (992657) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939326)

it's in cydia.

...or in Rock, cydia's a bit outdated.

Re:About time (1)

Anonymusing (1450747) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938654)

Hear, hear.

Re:About time (3, Informative)

peragrin (659227) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939110)

You can tether with AT&T now the trick is they charge you an extra $20 a month. So if you are a poor AT&T customer your still SOL.

Indeed with the random variabilty of AT&T network speeds and latency why any would want voip over 3G is beyond me. As for verizon well their network is 3G in technology only. It has massive sections that can barely handle voice let alone data.

Interesting (3, Funny)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938156)

Bluetooth headset, iPad, 3G connection. Ding!

Re:Interesting (1)

ionix5891 (1228718) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938482)

i used to joke about phones getting bigger and chunkier lately due to features no one wants

but this is no joke

Re:Interesting (2, Insightful)

nine-times (778537) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938514)

Right. If that happens, then I think cell providers will be well on their way to becoming dumb pipes. I'm sure they don't like the idea, but it's the right way to go.

Re:Interesting (2, Funny)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938548)

There's a rather obvious joke about telcos already being dumb pipes that just seems to write itself...

Re:Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30938854)

Yes. Your telco isn't a big dumb pipe that you can just dump things on. It's a series of tubes.

Re:Interesting (1)

jgagnon (1663075) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939866)

Now if only Ma Bell had her tubes tied when she was younger...

Re:Interesting (1)

Lars T. (470328) | more than 4 years ago | (#30941142)

Now if only Ma Bell had her tubes tied when she was younger...

Tubular Bell?

Re:Interesting (1)

jgagnon (1663075) | more than 4 years ago | (#30941424)

I was thinking there would be fewer "Baby Bells". :p

Re:Interesting (3, Insightful)

rsborg (111459) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939762)

Right. If that happens, then I think cell providers will be well on their way to becoming dumb pipes.

This still doesn't resolve the fact that you're going through THEIR pipes and given the corporate friendly FCC in this decade that decided to roll back regulations, THEY choose how to fuck you over... there are precious few providers, and two of the four use CDMA (which in its current implementation doesn't allow voice+data) while the other two use GSM/HSDPA (which is what's required for the iPad).

Now the situation in Europe might be different, but that's because their governments mandate standards and interoperability which creates competition.

In short, without government intervention there is very little hope of avoiding the balkanized price-gouging cell market we have today in the USA.

Re:Interesting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30939660)

It's too bad you can't purchase an iphone under the same contract as the ipad (that is - no contract, $30/month unlimited data, carrier of your choice, sort of...). As it stands, the ipad is probably a bit to large to act a phone for most folks. Perhaps we're seeing the beginning of the end of cellular phone business practices as we know it. Between this and the 3G announcement for the ipad, it seems like we're one step closer to that utopia of simply paying for a single "dumb" connection for everything.

Re:Interesting (1)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939734)

So you are essentially aspiring to be this guy? [youtube.com]

whirling down the drain (0, Offtopic)

digitalsushi (137809) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938198)

it's like blowing a drain out at the bottom of a swamp with TNT.

Bluetooth Keyboard drivers (1)

tekrat (242117) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938242)

When is the iPhone getting that? The iPad can use a bluetooth keyboard, but the iPhone can't? What kind of crap is this?

Re:Bluetooth Keyboard drivers (3, Insightful)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938354)

I would imagine it will work once the iPhone OS is updated when the iPad launches (or shortly before launch).

Re:Bluetooth Keyboard drivers (2, Interesting)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938474)

Alternative Bluetooth stacks are in the works for jailbroken phones. They already have file-sending working, and presumably Bluetooth HID are next.

Re:Bluetooth Keyboard drivers (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940228)

It's done. You can have a bluetooth keyboard on your jailbroken phone. There's experimental support for a mouse as well.

While we're at it... (other bluetooth profiles). (5, Insightful)

weston (16146) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938504)

When is the iPhone getting that? The iPad can use a bluetooth keyboard, but the iPhone can't? What kind of crap is this?

And while we're at it.... why not bluetooth syncing (with SYNCH, FTP, & OBEX), DUN for the touch and iPad, BPP (printing), and Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP)?

This isn't just an Apple problem, by the way. This is an industry-wide problem right now: "bluetooth" means a lot of things and most of the market doesn't seem to care to specify what. The BSIG ought to require those using the Bluetooth logo to specify which profiles a device supports, for the sake of consumer awareness and market pressure.

Re:While we're at it... (other bluetooth profiles) (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940258)

Let's see, synching over USB is pretty slow. USB has a raw transfer rate of 480 Mb/s. Bluetooth maxes out at 3 Mb/s. See the problem?

Re:While we're at it... (other bluetooth profiles) (1)

bar-agent (698856) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940636)

The BSIG ought to require those using the Bluetooth logo to specify which profiles a device supports, for the sake of consumer awareness and market pressure.

They have standardized a series of icons [parrot.com] indicating support for headsets, input devices, file transfer, etc. If you use those icons, you have to be supporting specific profiles.

My understanding.... (2, Insightful)

ducomputergeek (595742) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938256)

was that there was never a technical problem with this, but it was the face that ATT didn't want people to use VOIP over 3G because it competed with their voice offerings.

Re:My understanding.... (2, Interesting)

nine-times (778537) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938562)

Well it competes with their voice and SMS offerings (where they make their money) while flooding their already overloaded data networks. Plus it diminishes the amount of control they have over their customers, since VoIP is completely portable, making cell networks just another point of entry to the Internet.

Re:My understanding.... (1)

Rich0 (548339) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939252)

I guess in theory VOIP packets don't NEED to use much more bandwidth than voice packets do (granted, the network isn't optimized for them, and providers might take more bandwidth than they really need, and they are on different bands/etc).

However, since VOIP is close to free what it does do is allow people to consume a whole lot more calling time than their plans would otherwise cover, which means that demand is going to soar.

Re:My understanding.... (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939492)

Well I'm not sure, but I would guess that their digital voice is using something more efficient than TCPIP, and in addition they're compressing the hell out of the audio whereas a VoIP program might opt to use lesser compression. Beyond that, I don't know if there's something like different "channels" where they've set aside a certain portion of their bandwidth for voice and other portions for data, which means that using that not-using their voice service doesn't necessarily open up more bandwidth for data.

Re:My understanding.... (2, Informative)

Mindjiver (71) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940058)

Well I'm not sure, but I would guess that their digital voice is using something more efficient than TCPIP, and in addition they're compressing the hell out of the audio whereas a VoIP program might opt to use lesser compression. Beyond that, I don't know if there's something like different "channels" where they've set aside a certain portion of their bandwidth for voice and other portions for data, which means that using that not-using their voice service doesn't necessarily open up more bandwidth for data.

Voice is circuit switched in UMTS so of course there are different "channels", or tubes if you like. Voice is mostly likely AMR coded over the air interface which is then sent over a ds0 over a T1, either physical or inverse multiplexed over a STM-1 further into the circuit switched core network.

So, yes it will be much for efficent than your run of the mill VoIP which will travel over as UDP over a GTP-U tunnel terminated in the GGSN.

Re:My understanding.... (2, Insightful)

TheFaithfulStone (1528753) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940238)

I think it's safe to say that I understand none of your understanding.

Re:My understanding.... (1)

Mindjiver (71) | more than 4 years ago | (#30941320)

I think it's safe to say that I understand none of your understanding.

UMTS = Universial Mobile Telephony System, which is mostly implemted as WCDMA everywhere except China where TD-SCDMA is used. These names for the L1 protocol, also known as the air interface.

DS0 = Digital Signal 0, a 64kbit/s transmission standard.

T1 = 1.544Mbps physical connection which can carry up to 24 DS0

STM-1 = 155Mbit/s framing standard for optical networks based on SDH (Synchronous Digital Hierarchy).

Multiplexing = Taking several bit streams and combining them into one stream to send it over one physical interface.

Inverse Multiplexing = Taking a high bit rate connection and splitting it into many "virtual" lower bit rate connections. For example making a whole bunch of DS0 (64 kbit/s remember?) connections from the STM-1 (155Mbit/s remember?) connection.

Re:My understanding.... (2, Insightful)

gumbi west (610122) | more than 4 years ago | (#30941524)

I'm just trying to figure out, is there a set of people who can read and understand the above post but does not already know information in the post?

Fring No worky (1)

MicahEli (627865) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938298)

Still getting "fring calls only available on WiFi." message. Perhaps this will take a little time to roll out?

Re:Fring No worky (2, Informative)

silverpig (814884) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938600)

The Fring blog says you may have to log out of fring, shut down the app and restart.

Beginning of the end of telephony? (5, Insightful)

uzyn (1165803) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938352)

This could mean the beginning of the end of traditional telephony, ie. mobile carriers will soon simply become ISPs with no one using its voice/SMS/MMS services.

Re:Beginning of the end of telephony? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30938494)

Not sure about that, I have not made extensive use of VOIP but when I have used it, the sound quality was rather bleak, I would not choose VOIP as my first or only option.

Re:Beginning of the end of telephony? (5, Insightful)

slimjim8094 (941042) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938524)

Oh God I hope so. It goes great with VoIP on the home-line side.

Why should there be a marginal cost to a phone call? There isn't - once you're paying for the infrastructure, it's free.

AT&T has allowed VoIP on 3G network since Oct (5, Informative)

daveschroeder (516195) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938554)

Re:AT&T has allowed VoIP on 3G network since O (1)

silverpig (814884) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938628)

Yep, but the iPhone didn't allow it. Now you have both the provider and the platform allowing it.

Maybe someone can fill me in here (1)

bigredradio (631970) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938584)

So, you can now make VOIP calls using your AT&T 3G network (which is dodgy) using your PHONE! Here is an idea. Why not use the phone part of your phone to make calls? If you use skype or whatever to call your friends and family in [insert distant country], then I see a use. But my calling circle is mostly local. Sounds interesting but will anyone use it?

Re:Maybe someone can fill me in here (1)

parallel_prankster (1455313) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938760)

You can see a potential benefit if you got out of country. You can be out on the road and use your cellphone to make calls via skype etc to others. Ofcourse, you could do the same thing once you are in a wifi zone in another country too. This just gives you a slight extra. So it is really not anything to get orgasmic about.

Re:Maybe someone can fill me in here (1)

bonhomme_de_neige (711691) | more than 4 years ago | (#30941476)

Using VOIP over 3G while on roaming in another country would be by far the most expensive way to make a call... data roaming charges are typically so high the iPhone even has a specific option to disable 3G data on roaming connections.

Re:Maybe someone can fill me in here (1)

cheesewire (876598) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938802)

For one, Skype-to-Skype calls are free...

Really? (1)

LockeOnLogic (723968) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939144)

Uhh, people like free stuff

Re:Maybe someone can fill me in here (4, Informative)

jgtg32a (1173373) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939204)

$0.02/min to China, as opposed to $3/min.

Re:Maybe someone can fill me in here (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30940194)

Why the hell would you want to call a chink?

Re:Maybe someone can fill me in here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30940374)

$0.02/min to China

That is the same as .02 cents right?

Re:Maybe someone can fill me in here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30940460)

$0.02/min to China, as opposed to $3/min.

Just do what our government does -- have them add it to the tab. It's not like they're expecting us to ever pay it back anyways.

Re:Maybe someone can fill me in here (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940336)

For $30 I have 6 GB of data transfer a month - way more than I can hope to use on the phone. For $35/month I have 100 minutes of anytime voice. See why I might want to use VOIP, even for local calls?

What about multitasking? (5, Interesting)

itsme1234 (199680) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938700)

I assume multitasking is still missing so how's skype/fring going to work? "Call me so I can log in"? "While in a skype call - let me log out, I need to check this links/mail/etc?"

Re:What about multitasking? (1)

matang (731781) | more than 4 years ago | (#30938992)

exactly. i think at&t was being premature to block this. all they ended up getting was bad publicity on something that's so annoying to use regularly that no one will use it regularly. other than using skype via iphone to show relatives how skype works, i haven't used it at all, and not because of 3g restrictions.

Re:What about multitasking? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30939214)

1. You jailbreak the ipad or the 3GS, because the 3G is not that good at multi-tasking even with backgrounder.
2. Multitask
3. ???
4. Profit!!!

Re:What about multitasking? (1)

jgtg32a (1173373) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939270)

Just hold down the Home button to activate background mode.

Re:What about multitasking? (1)

furball (2853) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939966)

Holding down the Home button is for killing off the current running app.

Re:What about multitasking? (1)

bar-agent (698856) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940392)

Holding down the Home button is for killing off the current running app.

I'm guessing that was the joke.

Re:What about multitasking? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30940714)

If jailbroken, holding down the home button will activate backgrounding for the app.

Re:What about multitasking? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30941022)

Successful troll is successful.

Re:What about multitasking? (1)

Rich0 (548339) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939304)

I assume that unlike android that an app can't intercept SMS messages?

On android even with single-tasking there is an easy way around this issue. Just have your app bind into the SMS interface and look for messages with a unique code in them (sent by Skype). When that message is received the app would launch and connect to the Skype servers to find out what is going on and display an incoming call.

Re:What about multitasking? (1)

robmv (855035) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939402)

I think the skype server can send a notification to the iPhone, the user open the notification then it starts skype to finish the connection, ugly for my taste but doable. IIRC multitasking is allowed for Apple applications, so you can have the browser and Skype running at the same time, but if you need to write something on a third party application while on skype, you sure will lost the call

Re:What about multitasking? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30941506)

IIRC multitasking is allowed for Apple applications, so you can have the browser and Skype running at the same time, but if you need to write something on a third party application while on skype, you sure will lost the call

Apple apps don't necessarily quit if you change to a third party app, but third party apps quit if you change to any other app. So the browser would keep running if you open the Skype app, but the Skype app would quit when you go back to the home screen to access the browser.

Re:What about multitasking? (3, Informative)

MrEkted (764569) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940320)

Fring / Skype / etc. can pop up a dialog when you get a call or SMS as long as you enable Push notifications.
As of last July for Fring [fring.com]
and September for Skype. [skype.com]

in the police state, sorry I mean UK (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30938996)

this has always worked?

iCall over 3g IS HORRIBLE (1)

L3370 (1421413) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939004)

I have tested one VOIP app named iCall Free voip. TERRIBLE over 3g. So far success of connection over 3G is less than 25% for me. And of that 25%, I have yet to have a placed call last more than 5 seconds before lagging out.

SDK version 3.2 only? Skype not updated yet... (1, Redundant)

mario_grgic (515333) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939226)

This restriction is lifted in SDK 3.2 for iPad, and it's not certain that it will be available on the iPhone. Also, as of now Skype does not have app for iPhone that is 3G enable in the app store.

Re:SDK version 3.2 only? Skype not updated yet... (2, Insightful)

silverpig (814884) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939650)

Read the links. Fring works over 3G right now. Also, the skype app might be 3G enabled, just that it's not allowed to be used, similar to the state of the Fring app.

Re:SDK version 3.2 only? Skype not updated yet... (1)

mario_grgic (515333) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939774)

I have tried skype on my iPhone. Still refuses to work over 3G.

Re:SDK version 3.2 only? Skype not updated yet... (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940400)

Skype requires an update. They've said they've got one all ready to go.

I think all that information was actually in the summary.

Re:SDK version 3.2 only? Skype not updated yet... (1)

mario_grgic (515333) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940600)

Yes, Skype have been saying that for months now. It's Apple that actually has to allow and approve VOIP over 3G app, which they have not to this date. That's all I'm saying.

I don't think we'll see updated Skype app for a few months until the 3.2 SDK is out, and even then it's not certain that 3.2 SDK applies to the iPhone?

Re:SDK version 3.2 only? Skype not updated yet... (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940770)

Fring claims they are supporting VOIP over 3G now. What you mean, and what wasn't clear in your other posts, is that Apple hasn't specifically approved a VOIP over 3G app yet because Fring managed to enable theirs without an app update. That's true, but they also haven't pulled the plug on Fring, which they are more than capable of doing and have done in the past.

data-only plan? (1)

farble1670 (803356) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939606)

is there such a thing as a data only plan w/ AT&T? how about other carriers?

i rarely talk voice on the phone. it sort of irks me that i way $50+ a month for it.

Does this mean a Google Voice app is on the way? (1)

phatjew (705716) | more than 4 years ago | (#30939716)

Since AT&T and now (apparently) Apple seem to be more flexible re: VOIP, do you think Apple will allow a GV app on the iPhone now?

Re:Does this mean a Google Voice app is on the way (1)

twitchingbug (701187) | more than 4 years ago | (#30941104)

There is the HTML5 web app for google voice... not an app, but it works...

Google Voice? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30939794)

Does this mean a return of Google Voice as an official iPhone app?

Re:Google Voice? (3, Informative)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940678)

Google Voice never used VoIP, it was just a front-end for viewing your messages and contacts- when you wanted to make a phone call thru the app, it just inititiated a POTS call to a nearby toll-free number, which made the connection to their backhaul.

Vonage on the ball (1)

Alerius (851519) | more than 4 years ago | (#30940550)

Last night I saw an ad for Vonage on the iPhone, advertising that you can use the Vonage VOIP service on your iPhone now. To have not only the app ready to go but the TV ad as well took some lead time I should think. Developers certainly knew this was coming.

Skreeky app with voip (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#30940888)

Our app has been available in app store for a while. Is is a kind of voip app. Was that not really allowed?
Johan - developer

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