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Has Apple Created the Perfect Board Game Platform?

kdawson posted more than 3 years ago | from the triple-word-score dept.

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andylim writes "recombu.com is running an interesting piece about how Apple has created a 'Jumanji (board game) platform.' The 9.7-inch multi-touch screen is perfect for playing board games at home, and you could use Wi-Fi or 3G to play against other people when you're on your own. What would be really interesting is if you could pair the iPad with iPhones, 'Imagine a Scrabble iPad game that used iPhones as letter holders. You could hold up your iPhone so that no one else could see your letters and when you were ready to make a word on the Scrabble iPad board, you could slide them on to the board by flicking the word tiles off your iPhone.' Now that would be cool."

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Uh, no. They didn't. (5, Insightful)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954154)

The perfect board game platform is cardboard.

Re:Uh, no. They didn't. (2, Insightful)

poetmatt (793785) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954184)

yup. This is just an attempt by apple to make this appealing. The answer is: it's not. There are other apple products more compelling at this price, iphone namely.

Re:Uh, no. They didn't. (1)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954210)

Well, heavy cardboard wrapped in a plastic-like material...but you get my point.

-1 for replying to myself.

Re:Uh, no. They didn't. (5, Interesting)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954236)

Problem is most "cardboard" games are getting nutty pricey. I have seen many new ones retailing for $100 or more.

Re:Uh, no. They didn't. (3, Interesting)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954280)

The most expensive "board" game (i.e. NOT a tabletop game) that I have bought was Hero Quest. It was worth every penny.

I dunno...I mean, i could see how SOME board games might work ok on an iPad, and I could definitely see board games made specifically for it...but, much like reading digital comics isn't quite teh same as the real thing...

Re:Uh, no. They didn't. (1)

jsimon12 (207119) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954506)

What board games are you buying and where are you shopping? Last time I checked Scrabble and Monopoly were still in the sub-20 dollar range. Even Axis and Allies is 40-50 bucks. Even if they were 100 bucks you could buy 10-20 of them for the cost of an iPad and 3 iPhones.

Re:Uh, no. They didn't. (3, Informative)

farble1670 (803356) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954520)

i just bought stratego and monopoly from target. they came in a wood box. all quality parts. $19.99.

Re:Uh, no. They didn't. (1)

Mr. Sketch (111112) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954662)

Those expensive board games are not exactly Candy Land or Monopoly. My most expensive game is StarCraft: The Board Game which retails for $80 and after you add in the Brood War expansion, I'm out over $100 for that game, but it is worth every bit of it. I admit that I was hesitant at first to spend that much on game when my most expensive board game prior to that was maybe $10-$20. You get a whole lot in the game in terms of tokens, miniatures, cards, etc all very high quality, not to mention many, many hours of fun playing. It's always a blast to get 5 of your friends around the game for an epic 3-4 hour war where everyone has a great time.

Re:Uh, no. They didn't. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954238)

For some board games it's often impractical to carry the whole board around. For example Carrom (http://touchcarrom.com), the board is big enough. This will indeed be an ideal platform for such games.

Cardboard with OLED. (2, Interesting)

FooAtWFU (699187) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954256)

Re:Uh, no. They didn't. (1)

cormander (1273812) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954462)

The perfect board game platform is cardboard.

Yes, cheating is much easier to do with a cardboard game.

COST?!?! (2, Insightful)

jsimon12 (207119) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954478)

So I have the choice of a buying a 10 dollar board game or spending thousands in on iPads and iPhones. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.

Re:COST?!?! (2, Insightful)

Grizzley9 (1407005) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954582)

So you're comparing a single use game with a multi-use platform capable of doing numerous other things with a changing interface to fit those things.

Hmm, did you also make that decision when deciding on whether or not to buy a paperback or an iPhone?

Re:COST?!?! (1)

poetmatt (793785) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954660)

Your comparison doesn't seem to be accurate. The article is trying to promote ipad's use as a board game. The argument is more like the other way around. Why is someone saying that instead of x, we should buy y (not even remotely related product).

This is like buying a ferrari as a day to day traffic car because the driver's seat is extremely comfortable

Re:Uh, no. They didn't. (5, Insightful)

sxedog (824351) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954482)

The perfect board game platform is cardboard.

And cardboard games don't come with DRM or restrictive rights where you don't actaully 'own' it, rather rent it and rebuy it when you magically lose the rights to the game. No thanks.

Re:Uh, no. They didn't. (5, Insightful)

kevingolding2001 (590321) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954504)

So what do you do with your cardboard monopoly or chess board when you are half way through a game and the captain says to return to your seats, place the tray tables in the upright locked position and prepare for landing? I guess it's game over.

With an iPad, you could save the game, put it back in your hand luggage, then get it out and resume the game in the taxi to the hotel.

I agree with the article. I think the iPad presents a great opportunity to play board games with friends in a more convenient way.

Sure thing (4, Insightful)

BitterAndDrunk (799378) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954162)

So for only $499 + $299/phone, you can play a $75 board game electronically! No messy setup, and you don't have to worry about where to put that almost $1000 in cash you would still have!

Re:Sure thing (5, Funny)

boristdog (133725) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954294)

So for only $499 + $299/phone, you can play a $75 board game electronically!

$75?

Where the hell do you shop for board games?

Here, I'll lend you a decimal --> .

I was exaggerating costs slightly (1)

BitterAndDrunk (799378) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954390)

Though Agricola is $55, and I think the expansion would kick it past $75.

Race For The Galaxy + 2 expansions was in that neighborhood or higher.

Euros trend expensive.

Re:I was exaggerating costs slightly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954694)

There are plenty of board games that are going for $75 or more!

Tide of Iron
Descent
Space Hulk
Twilight Imperium 3rd Edition
etc

Re:Sure thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954566)

The Carcassone Big Box [amazon.com] will run you $90.

Re:Sure thing (0, Redundant)

spike2131 (468840) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954594)

The Carcassone Big Box [amazon.com] will run you $90. Worth it.

Re:Sure thing (4, Interesting)

GasparGMSwordsman (753396) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954696)

Napoleon in Europe cost me $80, Diplomacy cost me $60, Settlers of Catan with expansions cost me $180 ($45 x 3 + $15 x 3), Through the Ages costs $70 right now, History of the World was $65. Some of us like good board games. (I own all of those except Through the Ages and History of the World, which a friend owns).

I have not even mentioned any games by Games Workshop. If you include them, the iPad + Phones would be cheaper...

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3518/napoleon-in-europe [boardgamegeek.com]

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/483/diplomacy [boardgamegeek.com]

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/13/the-settlers-of-catan [boardgamegeek.com]

http://www.eaglegames.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CBG001 [eaglegames.net]

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/224/history-of-the-world [boardgamegeek.com]

Re:Sure thing (1)

simcop2387 (703011) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954320)

$75? the deluxe edition is only $39.99 at target, the regular version (which i can't seem to find) should be even cheaper. http://www.target.com/Super-Scrabble-The-Deluxe-Edition/dp/B000P0R9J0/sr=1-1/qid=1264796353/ref=sr_1_1/177-1017270-8492669?ie=UTF8&search-alias=tgt-index&frombrowse=0&index=target&rh=k%3Ascrabble&page=1 [target.com]

Manufacturing and distribution (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954348)

So for only $499 + $299/phone, you can play a $75 board game electronically!

That depends on how many board games you buy. If you buy specialty board games as apps on iTunes Store, it might be cheaper than buying them as cardboard on, say, MyAtomic.com. Notice how albums cost $9.99 on iTunes Store vs. $13.99 on CD at Walmart* because there's no cost of pressing, packaging, shipping, and retailing discs.

Re:Manufacturing and distribution (2, Insightful)

ElSupreme (1217088) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954412)

Lets say you save 5$ a game. You would have to purchase 100 board games to cover your costs, not to mention power and the fact that your iPad wont last 30 years. I have Risk, Monopoly, Scrabble, and Trivial persuit that are almost that old.

Re:Manufacturing and distribution (1)

travisco_nabisco (817002) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954534)

It also depends how many different friend groups you play the games with. If you have 3 or 4 different game groups are you going to buy enough iPhones that each person can have one? Or do you buy enough for your 6 player game and leave them on the shelf until you play the game? Myself, I will continue to buy the $50+ board games and play them with whom I like when I like without having to be interrupted by text messages or phone calls when making a critical move.

Re:Manufacturing and distribution (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954634)

If you have 3 or 4 different game groups are you going to buy enough iPhones that each person can have one?

I think the idea is that the game publisher puts out a "controller" for Android and a "controller" for iPod Touch/iPhone, and you get whatever "controller" matches the handsets your players already have.

Re:Sure thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954398)

$75? Would that be for a gemstone-encrusted version?

Re:Sure thing (1)

travisco_nabisco (817002) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954558)

There are a lot of games that cost close to $75 Cnd. They are much more strategy based games with more mechanics that moving around a board in circles, or squares depending if you have the new Monopoly board or not.

A lot of the games that I play are developed in Europe and are finally starting to get some real exposure to the NA market. It is about time us NA residents realize what a great hobby board games can be.

Re:Sure thing (1)

bjk002 (757977) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954436)

My kingdom for a mod point!!!

Re:Sure thing (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954532)

A kingdom filled with Anonymous Cowards is not worth a mod point or two. :P

(no need) (3, Insightful)

BitterAndDrunk (799378) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954614)

I'm already at +5 Insightful! I can't wait to tell my wife, ACTION FOR SURE!

Re:Sure thing (2, Insightful)

weston (16146) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954648)

$499 + $299/phone

$299 phone?

Well, assuming for some reason you've got an aversion against or unusual obstacle to using WiFi, you could use a phone that costs around $50. At least, that's what I do with my laptop and a Nokia 2865 (via bluetooth DUN). It's not 3G speeds, which means you don't want to be pushing video over it, but for sending model data between games it should work just fine.

As for the rest of the economics... yeah, if you're just going to buy one board game, it probably doesn't make a lot of sense, to buy an iPad just to play it. The question is if you're going to do anything else... whether that's a handful of other games, or something else the device does (as well as whether game titles cost less or more than the equivalent board game). In other words, whether or not the iPad makes sense for games is probably going to a have a lot to do with whether the iPad makes sense in general for you.

Personally, for me the bigger objection would generally have to be that it's a bit small for group board gaming.

Size (2, Informative)

maxume (22995) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954164)

TOO SMALL!

Of course! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954166)

None of that is possible with any other tablets or cell phones! Once again, Apple rules the world by being first at everything!

Too Small (4, Insightful)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954172)

How is less than 10 inches perfect?

I don't think I play a single board game with a board that small. Zoom in and out? Scroll around? Everything smaller? No thanks. A lot of my board game time is great just because I'm unplugged anyway.

If I were alone, maybe then I could see it. The less than ideal experience would be o.k. compared to not being able to play at all. But to sit around with phones out to 'hold' tiles and play the game on a little screen doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Re:Too Small (5, Funny)

Sebilrazen (870600) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954258)

How is less than 10 inches perfect?

That's what she said.

Re:Too Small (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954552)

> How is less than 10 inches perfect?

That's what she said.

Modded informative? I'm sad.

Re:Too Small (1)

Sinning (1433953) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954636)

Maybe you should look into plastic surgery?

Re:Too Small (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954264)

Give me a 24"X24" one to play settlers of Catan on...

Re:Too Small (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954386)

They already have Catan [tr.im] on the iPhone (warning: link launches iTunes).

Re:Too Small (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954274)

Depends how you do it, most board games don't require you to have both precision and wide view at the same time. But, until this sort of thing comes way under the $100 mark I can't imagine it catching on for that purpose. Sure it might be a nice added value, but definitely not a perfect board game platform.

Re:Too Small (1, Informative)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954448)

I know Scrabble is one where I certainly want to be able to take in the whole board at once. And I want to be looking at different parts than the other players, without them knowing what I'm focused on.

The desire to keep what I'm looking at to myself is true of a lot of games.

I'd like to see one of these table sized interfaces we've seen used this way. I know it's been done with d&d [boingboing.net] . That would be cool for board games.

Re:Too Small (0, Redundant)

LordPhantom (763327) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954282)

"How is less than 10 inches perfect?"
That's what she said!

Re:Too Small (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954476)

you are still very much "unplugged" since the retarded little device can only run one thing at a time. While you are playing that game, you won't be getting any music, popups, IMs, or email.

Larger than many chess travel sets ... (1, Offtopic)

perpenso (1613749) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954524)

The iPad is larger than many chess travel sets I've seen. Plus it can incorporate timers, single player, tutorials, ... I think its a little premature to rule it out for board game like use, especially when considering being on the move. Not only compared to travel sets but consider that you can effectively be carrying around multiple board games all the time.

--
Perpenso Calc [perpenso.com] for iPhone and iPod touch, scientific and bill/tip calculator, fractions, complex numbers, RPN

ok ill bite (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954180)

get some cardboard, draw on it

man was that cheap.
now go pay apple

Cool game of scrabble? (1)

pympdaddyc (586298) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954192)

I'd hope a $1600 game of scrabble would be cool.

Re:Cool game of scrabble? (3, Funny)

Minwee (522556) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954254)

For $1600, I'd better be able to use words like "zoquou" and "ushnuu".

Re:Cool game of scrabble? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954362)

Hats off to you, sir, for the FT reference.

Re:Cool game of scrabble? (1)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954402)

For $1600 I'd expect the scrabble to come with three hookers

Re:Cool game of scrabble? (1)

CRiMSON (3495) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954454)

And at least a pound of blow.. I mean coke doesn't snort itself off those hookers asses!

Imagine... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954196)

Imagine a beowulf cluster of iPhones/iPads/iPod Touches!!!!! ZOMG!

Please Change The Title Of This Article (2, Insightful)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954206)

...to "Ramming home the news that Apple have released a new product this week, Part 234".

Thanks.

Re:Please Change The Title Of This Article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954302)

"Ramming home the news that Apple have released a shiny face on an existing product but removed a lot of its functionality and tripled the price this week, Part 234".

Fixed that for you

Uh huh. (2, Interesting)

squ3lch (1594723) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954214)

Or I could play a board game. I could buy all sorts of board games before I would come close to the price of the iPad + digital board game purchases.

Re:Uh huh. (1)

Sebilrazen (870600) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954284)

But then you'd need to have a closet or garage to store them.

Re:Uh huh. (1)

polar red (215081) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954342)

I guess there are enough people around here that own at least for a 1000 dollars (or euros in my case) in board games.

Missing the point (5, Insightful)

dazedNconfuzed (154242) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954356)

Or you could read a book. You could buy all sorts of books before you would come close to the price of the iPad + e-book purchases.

Or you could listen to a CD. You could buy all sorts of CDs before you would come close to the price of the iPad + .MP3/AAC/whatever purchases.

Or you could watch a movie. You could buy all sorts of DVDs before you would come close to the price of the iPad + digital video purchases.

Funny thing is, a large and growing number of us have small music players, e-book readers, watch movies/TV on our laptops, play assorted multi-player games, etc. - all on hardware comparable in price to the iPad.

Between a convenient play-everything device and some bulk storage to off-load under-used content, those of us realizing it's 2010 already LIKE the idea of replacing boxfulls of atoms with a few cubic inches of bits.

Always amazes me how many /.ers exhibit Luddite tendencies.

Re:Missing the point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954672)

DRM and walled-garden aside, right?

Re:Missing the point (1)

feepness (543479) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954678)

But the title says "perfect". The iPad is not a perfect MP3/Video/or book platform. Is it a more than decent substitute? Probably.

It may or may not be a decent board game substitute. But it sure as hell isn't perfect.

Great! (1)

TheRealFixer (552803) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954240)

Or, you know, you could get an actual Scrabble board, and not have to spend a couple thousand dollars to play to play a $20 game with three friends. You can even flick the tiles at the board, if you want. For free!

it's not a big ass table, so no (2, Insightful)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954252)

No... the "big ass table [youtube.com] " that apple fans made fun of Microsoft for is the perfect board game platform.

The iPad would maybe make a nice "private" board for keeping player information hidden. But a big ass table would be a lot better for a group to gather around to play a board game.

Re:it's not a big ass table, so no (1)

minsk (805035) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954452)

Heck, my take is that even Microsoft's "big ass table" is too small and too low-resolution for complex highly-social board games. And they're the ones that could benefit most from adding a computer into the mix.

Double the size and resolution, then we can talk about board games.

What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954270)

'Imagine a Scrabble iPad game that used iPhones as letter holders. You could hold up your iPhone so that no one else could see your letters and when you were ready to make a word on the Scrabble iPad board, you could slide them on to the board by flicking the word tiles off your iPhone.' Now that would be cool."

I'm surprised this wasn't in Back to The Future Part 2....along with all the other ridiculous "this is what the future will be like" crap in that film...

I'll bite (1)

snl2587 (1177409) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954278)

'Imagine a Scrabble iPad game that used iPhones as letter holders. You could hold up your iPhone so that no one else could see your letters and when you were ready to make a word on the Scrabble iPad board, you could slide them on to the board by flicking the word tiles off your iPhone.'

I'm imagining a large amount of wasted money for people who don't have at least one of the components...and if everyone has to be present anyway, why not just use a regulate board? Costs to develop the thing would be pointless as well.

Just seems like a bad example...

solution in search of a problem (0, Flamebait)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954286)

isn't that solution in search of a problem? Isn't the 'perfect' board game platform based on an actual physical board with physical elements present: cards, dice, tokens, whatever?

I used to play a board game similar to Risk, that had tokens, little standing cards, the value of which were only visible to me. So you have an army and the opponent has an army, you see various soldiers, but you don't know what they are. Some tokens are soldiers, some are mines, there is one that is the flag. The idea is to capture the flag by 'attacking' it. When one player attacks the other, he challenges the opponent's token soldier with his own. Now the soldiers are compared, if one has a higher rank, he wins, the opponent's token is removed. If both are the same rank, both are removed.

How do you do something like that on a screen? Do you put the actual tokens on the screen? Why not just a piece of cheap ass cardboard with a picture on it?

This is amusing, maybe there are instances where this horizontal touch screen is better for some games, but really? How much does it cost compared with a few cardboard pieces?

Re:solution in search of a problem (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954380)

How much does it cost compared with a few cardboard pieces?

That depends on how many board games you buy. It's similar to the value proposition with Kindle or Nook or any other e-book reader.

Re:solution in search of a problem (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954488)

But an eBook reader really provides convenience of having so many books in one single package that you can take anywhere and read. This pad as a board game, well, wouldn't you still have to at least bring various other game pieces with you, unless of-course, they all can be digital?

Also, you know, you can gift board games to people, and it's not going to make you bankrupt.

Re:solution in search of a problem (1)

Totenglocke (1291680) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954498)

Well with ebook readers they typically charge MORE for an ebook than an actual paperback. So your argument would be valid as long as the game apps cost less than the actual boardgame.

Re:solution in search of a problem (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954422)

Ha, now I remember, it's called Stratego.

Re:solution in search of a problem (1)

jfim (1167051) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954446)

I used to play a board game similar to Risk, that had tokens, little standing cards, the value of which were only visible to me. So you have an army and the opponent has an army, you see various soldiers, but you don't know what they are. Some tokens are soldiers, some are mines, there is one that is the flag. The idea is to capture the flag by 'attacking' it. When one player attacks the other, he challenges the opponent's token soldier with his own. Now the soldiers are compared, if one has a higher rank, he wins, the opponent's token is removed. If both are the same rank, both are removed.

Are you talking about Stratego [wikipedia.org] ?

Re:solution in search of a problem (1)

mister_playboy (1474163) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954470)

You must be describing Stratego? [wikipedia.org] Great game! :D

Re:solution in search of a problem (1)

ElSupreme (1217088) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954618)

Stratego. I assume that you are talking about this game. And yes impossible to play without 2 individual and private screens. Because you have to watch the other player move, and still be able to see all your pieces.

This is really starting to stretch it. (0)

barfy (256323) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954292)

Look, it was a swing, and a miss. If it is about content consumption, it must, 100% must, have flash.

If it is about content creation, it needs WAY better input and manipulation tools.

I guess this is for my friends who always by BIG laptops, I have always bought small laptops.

Ugh, the hassle (0)

mcsqueak (1043736) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954314)

You could hold up your iPhone so that no one else could see your letters and when you were ready to make a word on the Scrabble iPad board, you could slide them on to the board by flicking the word tiles off your iPhone.' Now that would be cool."

No, that doesn't sound cool... that sounds expensive, and hard to manage. Not to be a luddite, but I'll stick with traditional cardboard and wood Scrabble, thanks.

HOWEVER, other board games may do better on the platform. Simple arcade games might be neat, too... such as Pacman, for example.

Board game? Maybe. Audio Controller? Yes. (3, Interesting)

vitaflo (20507) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954326)

I can see people having fun with board games on the iPad but I'm not sure it really trumps a real board game. Most board games aren't overly expensive as it is.

But what I do think the iPad could be really good at is custom audio controller interfaces. More and more of these interfaces are starting to show up on computers, but much of the mouse/keyboard input doesn't really match the real life use of tweaking knobs and levers. Multi-touch on a larger screen is a much better translation of this, and given how much physical audio controllers can cost, a few software reproductions of them could end up being a cost benefit for users.

Re:Board game? Maybe. Audio Controller? Yes. (1)

barfy (256323) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954430)

good idea too bad no firewire

Re:Board game? Maybe. Audio Controller? Yes. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954576)

First of all, it's never gonna be a custom audio controller interface, because it lacks an audio input channel.

But as a custom midi controller (would still have to be midi via wifi which isn't great) it could provide interesting customization possibilities. I would love to have several different setups of midi knobs or whatever interface works best with touchscreen. Physical midi controllers don't have to be very expensive though, for $250 you own a velocity sensitive usb midi keyboard and a controller with enough buttons and knobs to map your ass of. The software for turning the iPad into something of a serious competitor for physical midi surfaces has to be really, really good to make up for the expensive tablet.

How is it perfect? (1)

DrXym (126579) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954330)

Board games come with cards, dice, plastic & metal things and usually need more space than a small rectangle. Perhaps it does allow decent simulations of board games, but at $499 (+ whatever the app store slaps on top for a game) it bloody well ought to.

Board Games? (1)

Jorl17 (1716772) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954336)

The new IPad is here to help us clean our asses, not to help us shove pieces up into others'.

We had created a solution (2, Insightful)

CSHARP123 (904951) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954354)

but we didn't know the problem. Thanks for providing the problem

No magic (1)

slantyyz (196624) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954382)

Part of the magic of meatspace board games is losing the bits and pieces.

You can't do that on an iPad.

Re:No magic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954530)

Part of the magic of meatspace board games is losing the bits and pieces.

So what you're saying is that there is still room for Microsoft in the games-on-slate-computer market.

Not really... (3, Funny)

minsk (805035) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954384)

The iPad: If you're too nerdy to attend the chess club in person.

But, seriously, implementing board games well on a computer demands a lot more than a small touch-sensitive display. Simple non-social games are easier, but they work just fine on a traditional PC.

A device looking for a purpose (0)

syousef (465911) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954388)

I'd really like to see someone make a send up skit. It would involve some fanboi buying an iPad and trying to use it as a phone then getting very disappointed when he realises it can't be used as one.

The iPad is a device looking for a purpose. The Apple designers built a beautiful little smart phone - so nice that people would work around their crippling it with nonsense like jailbreaking. So nice that they'd overlook basic missing functionality like MMS in the first couple of revisions. So nice that they'd pay through the nose and get into ridiculous contracts to own it. It wasn't even about the phone functionality but the accelerometer and touch screen that let you play games and enabled some interesting applets. So then they thought lets make it bigger - that small screen is limiting. And since people aren't buying it for the phone we can leave that functionality for the next generation.

They forgot that laptops and netbooks already exist and are more versatile. So what you have is a turkey of a device. Crippled and limited. It's best use will be providing competition. Expect to see new laptops with accelerometers and perhaps touch screens built in. Apart from those two features and the ability to run iPhone apps, the iPad has NO advantages over a common laptop or netbook. As one reviewer said, it's an oversized iPhone without the phone.

Re:A device looking for a purpose (1)

wfolta (603698) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954668)

p>They forgot that laptops and netbooks already exist and are more versatile. So what you have is a turkey of a device. Crippled and limited. It's best use will be providing competition. Expect to see new laptops with accelerometers and perhaps touch screens built in. Apart from those two features and the ability to run iPhone apps, the iPad has NO advantages over a common laptop or netbook. As one reviewer said, it's an oversized iPhone without the phone.

"No advantages"? Hmm, let's see... add that nifty touchscreen and accelerometer to your netbook and you STILL have essentially a desktop form factor that's been shrunk down and then joined together with a hinge. Change the screen orientation? Nope. In addition, to keep costs down, you probably have a very poor off-angle viewing experience. Share the device with someone next to you? More like sharing a pair of binoculars than sharing photos. And that keyboard's SO useful while reading emails, browsing web pages, working on your calendar, working with photos, checking your stock prices, ...

It's not your desktop computer -- or even your portable desktop computer (laptop, netbook). Since you cannot realize that, it has no advantages for you.

Ah! Now I get it! (0)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954410)

We're not allowed to compare the iPad's functionality to a netbook because we're told it isn't a PC...

However, according to this article, it IS a games console. In which case, can we start speculating how that "hefty" 1GB A4 CPU copes with Call Of Duty Modern Warfare compared to the X-Box then?

Back to the Future Part 2... (1)

ThisIsAnonymous (1146121) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954444)

Imagine a Scrabble iPad game that used iPhones as letter holders. You could hold up your iPhone so that no one else could see your letters and when you were ready to make a word on the Scrabble iPad board, you could slide them on to the board by flicking the word tiles off your iPhone.' Now that would be cool.

Wasn't this in Back to the Future Part 2...along with all the other ridiculous, and pointless, "this is what we will have in the future" crap in that film.

iFail (2, Interesting)

mhajicek (1582795) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954480)

They're just desperate to find SOMETHING it'd good for.

Kind of. (1)

josteos (455905) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954518)

I don't think it's a replacement for a multiplayer board game; the Family Game Night is in no danger But it would make a great platform for me to sit in my barcalounger and play Magic or Bloodbowl or Axis & Allies against my friends on the other side of the country. It's small enough to be portable and comfortable, but large enough to visualize the playfield manipulate the playing pieces. Smack talk would be a lot easier with a webcam, tho.

Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 3 years ago | (#30954550)

wow, that would be the most expensive board game ever... no thanks. The cardboard works just fine and doesn't have a monthly fee.

And here is what Apple does marvelously! (0, Flamebait)

rehtonAesoohC (954490) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954570)

I have karma to burn, so what the hey.

Apple doesn't create innovative products anymore. They've created a platform where they shift the onus of innovation onto their userbase, and then hope that people submit ideas and apps that are innovative, thereby reaping the benefit. Fairly genius move actually, but it reminds me of one of the best comedic movies ever: Tommy Boy.

If you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will - I got spare time...

Everyone, buy an iPad so we can all keep eating shit in a box from Apple!

Go (0)

sqrt(2) (786011) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954646)

It looks like a nice device on which to play Go [wikipedia.org] . You wouldn't have to worry about pieces being moved or storing the game and continuing later. Although playing with real stones on a real board is nice just because of the tactile experience.

Cheating at Scrabble . . . ? (0)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954650)

There's an app for that! It gives you whatever letter you need!

Most of my childhood board games ended up with one of the kids throwing a tantrum and whacking the other kids over the head with the game board.

Dad comes home now and wonders why there is a Shroud of Turin like indentation in his iPad, and why his sons' faces are all bandaged up.

Isn't low tech good enough here . . . ? Cardboard is flimsy, but doesn't cause concussions.

stupid, stupid, stupid (1)

thedbp (443047) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954670)

Yeah, rich people with tons of cash to burn who care more about technology than connecting with family would see this as a great board game platform. The rest of us will continue to enjoy the company of our friends and family with decidedly low-tech but perfectly useful cardboard, and focus more on the interactions and fun than the tech and "ooh ahh" factor.

This is really stretching. It seems people are going to obscene lengths to try to make the iPad look less ho-hum that it really is.

Apple really failed on this one, HARD.

No it's not. (1)

CFBMoo1 (157453) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954684)

Although this will more likely be more expensive, it's a much better platform for games like that because of the larger screen. You can still use the iPad or iPhones for tossing out tiles though. I imagine the iPads would be better for that since they're a larger screen then the phones.

http://www.microsoft.com/surface/Pages/Product/WhatIs.aspx

yay (1)

SeanFlotre (1688358) | more than 3 years ago | (#30954700)

a 600$ board game! what fun! give me a break. reaching..really reaching.
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