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"Tube Map" Created For the Milky Way

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the non-stop-service-to-the-Perseus-Arm dept.

Space 142

astroengine writes "Assuming you had an interstellar spaceship, how would you navigate around the galaxy? For starters, you'd probably need a map. But there's billions of stars out there — how complex would that map need to be? Actually, Samuel Arbesman, a research fellow from Harvard, has come up with a fun solution. He created the 'Milky Way Transit Authority (MWTA),' a simple transit system in the style of the iconic London Underground 'Tube Map.' (Travel Tip: Don't spend too much time loitering around the station at Carina, there's some demolition work underway.)"

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From Lave (4, Informative)

pommiekiwifruit (570416) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014538)

I just know that from Lave, you should try to get to Zaonce and Isinor to build up your credits...

Re:From Lave (1)

ChrisMounce (1096567) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014680)

For those not in the know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_%28video_game%29

Re:From Lave (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31014962)

For those not in the know: http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_%28video_game%29

For those not in the know: <url:http://example.com/>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(video_game) [wikipedia.org]

Re:From Lave (1)

More_Cowbell (957742) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016456)

Oh, come on... You're not even going to use [a href="url">Link text/a] as an example? (obviously you would need to replace [] with the proper symbols...) Correction FAIL.

Re:From Lave (1)

Tim C (15259) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014978)

For those not in the know, turn in your geek card on your way out.

(Or maybe I'm just showing my age by knowing exactly what he was talking about...)

Re:From Lave (1)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016100)

"Or maybe I'm just showing my age by knowing exactly what he was talking about"

You're showing your age, because virtually no one under 30 (born 1980, making them 4 when the game came out [wikipedia.org]) would have any idea what he's talking about. There was a NES version [mobygames.com] for kids of the 80s but it wasn't released in the US [clara.net].

Re:From Lave (1)

bjorniac (836863) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016364)

That's simply not true - more recent versions of Elite (Oolite, ArcElite) have Lave-Zaonce at the beginning.

Re:From Lave (1)

ChrisMounce (1096567) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016482)

I actually knew it from Oolite, but I figured the universe they share is obscure enough (although with search engines, nothing is obscure for the online reader).

Re:From Lave (1)

gparent (1242548) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014790)

Buying High Quality Goods from New York, selling them at Hokkaido and going back with Cardamine was pretty good too.

Re:From Lave (1)

MRe_nl (306212) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016306)

OMFG, Lave, that brings back memories of a summer lost...
Weeks of Amiga Elite and the Vectrex, weekends with Joey Beltram, Derrick May & Dimitri/Roxy.

"In the Santaari system near Lave, where the game starts, there are a couple of decent routes - Isinor/Zaonce and Benaera/Tionisla. They aren't so close together that you can make a round trip several times without refuelling, but they do have the necessary tech levels for making a good quick profit".

Never made "Elite" though, we did all the missions and were still only "Very dangerous" IIRC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=dFXgqrid6tA [youtube.com]

Tickets (1)

BSAtHome (455370) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014550)

I'll take 10 tickets, please. With FTL transit, grav-shielding and a couple of window seats. Thank you.

I dont get it.... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014574)

Which ones are the Mass Relays?

Re:I dont get it.... (1)

Logical Zebra (1423045) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014806)

More importantly, which ones should I stay away from to keep from pissing off the Geth?

Re:I dont get it.... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014850)

And why is earth on the red line? I knew this planet was low rent, but the dang realestate agent told me it was "exclusive" having "sentient life".... BAH

Re:I dont get it.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31016720)

Stay awake before your stop, and you'll never have to worry about ending up in the Terminus Systems.

And remember... (4, Funny)

gestalt_n_pepper (991155) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014578)

First class gets extra inertial damping. It costs more but it's soooo worth it.

So let me get this straight... (-1, Offtopic)

BlackPignouf (1017012) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014580)

So let me get this straight... /. submitters can add any icon or picture they want to TFS, but are still too lazy to add any Ubuntu icon?
You want to see some guy that is explaining why he doesn't get laid, or some other guy that has Simpsons porn on his computer?
Welcome to Slashdot!

You want to see the right logo for the most popular Linux distribution?
Move along!

Re:So let me get this straight... (1)

toastar (573882) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014696)

Ubuntu has a logo?

Re:So let me get this straight... (1)

armanox (826486) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014734)

Thinking Ubuntu is the most popular/important distribution is the bigger issue.

Re:So let me get this straight... (1)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 4 years ago | (#31015164)

according to distrowatch, it is. Of course, I recognize that in many production environments, they are likely not reporting to distrowatch, and probably things like RHEL and SLES (and CentOS, Gentoo, etc) are fairly popular... but Ubuntu is definitely one of the most popular "normal person" Linux distro. If people have heard of Linux and only know what distribution, they seem to know Ubuntu. Not openSuSE or RedHat.

Re:So let me get this straight... (1)

armanox (826486) | more than 4 years ago | (#31015366)

In my experience more people have known Red Hat then Ubuntu. Although you are correct that distrowatch says there are more hits on Ubuntu then RH/Fedora

Re:So let me get this straight... (1)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016878)

People may *have* known "Red Hat" in the past (I guess) because it seemed to be one of the only Linux companies ever in the news... I personally knew about Red Hat before I tried Mandrake and SuSE. But Ubuntu seems to be on the tip of everyone's tongue (if they even know what "Linux" is), now. And a lot of people mispronounce it, too. For some reason, they like spelling/pronouncing it Ubunto...

Well (4, Funny)

CSHARP123 (904951) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014586)

My job is located at Galaxy Center. But I live at The Hamptons. The problem is, I have to take Brown line and yellow line to reach the center, It takes for ever and in some locations the AT&T signals are not that good and I cannot do anything with my iPad. Well that's life...

How cute (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014614)

I like it, really, I do. But seriously. When measuring distance in light years, the shortest path will always between two points(1)

(1) not including areas of space/time warping and dilation

Re:How cute (2, Informative)

kalirion (728907) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014746)

When measuring distance in light years, the shortest path will always between two points(1)

Isn't the shortest distance always "between two points", regardless of the units of measurement?

Re:How cute (1)

SomeJoel (1061138) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014820)

When measuring distance in light years, the shortest path will always between two points(1)

Isn't the shortest distance always "between two points", regardless of the units of measurement?

In actuality, all distances (shortest, longest, and everything else) are between two points. That's kind of the definition of distance.

Re:How cute (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31014986)

I concur, distance != space time warp, distance is in fact distance. If it takes you less time to get there because of some other physics law (known or unknown), that's time not distance.

Re:How cute (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 4 years ago | (#31015144)

I like it, really, I do. But seriously. When measuring distance in light years, the shortest path will always between two points(1)

Ignoring the curvature of the Earth the shortest path for the tube would be a straight line too, but most people won't have a direct route. For this tube map to make sense you have to assume a populated universe with economics of scale and space liners going where it's popular, so you'd still get hubs because it's more efficient than trying to build point-to-point connections between every star in the galaxy (some 10^22 routes needed).

Re:How cute (1)

eleuthero (812560) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016324)

so you'd still get hubs because it's more efficient than trying to build point-to-point connections between every star in the galaxy (some 10^22 routes needed).

That is, unless you happen to live in one of the Hamilton universes that involves "paths" and spacegates (though the spacegates tended to have hubs, the paths apparently... at least as far as I've gotten, did not). You've also got the more amusing (albeit on a popular level) series by Ringo that involves "looking glass" gateways. If I had to pick one of them, I think I'd go with Hamilton's scenario but...

Re:How cute (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31015390)

Um, no. ANY distance calculation is between two points, regardless of the units. It's: The shortest distance between two points is a straight line.

What, no superliminal rail . . . (1)

StefanJ (88986) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014628)

. . . to the Magellanic Clouds?

Why the gray "Canis Major" box?

Re:What, no superliminal rail . . . (1)

Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016546)

. . . to the Magellanic Clouds?

Why the gray "Canis Major" box?

Construction zone. Sort of like the Circle Line with Vogons.

The Musicians are the Black Holes... (1)

viraltus (1102365) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014656)

The most attractive force of all and every penny that goes in their hats you never see it again.

OK, I can't find it.... (1)

thewils (463314) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014682)

Where's Mornington Crescent?

Re:OK, I can't find it.... (1)

Petrushka (815171) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014944)

Where's Mornington Crescent?

Oh come on, on the first move in this thread? Surely you're aware we're playing under Mortimer's Third Amendment, whereby you can't proceed north of Omicron Centauri until someone has declared a Double Paddington!

The galaxy is a series of Tubes .... (4, Funny)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014692)

Sorry, it had to be said.

Actually, the interstellar transport system is like a box of chocolates ... you never know where you're going to end up. It was prototyped from an airport luggage handling system - more specifically, Denver.

Nobody's ever complained. Then again, nobody's ever come back.

That's just great... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31014702)

You mean I have to transfer onto a bus to get to zeta reticuli?

Has it got (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31014770)

The Stargate addresses?

Oyster Card (1)

baby_tux (734889) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014798)

However I wouln't use my PAYG Oyster card on that tube because the fares would be a little higher when I'd touch out...

Planning commission biased as always (4, Funny)

RichMan (8097) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014824)

How did Sol rate even a minor station. A crummy little G2 minor league star.
I suspect undue influence at the planning commission or city council for this station to even exist.

Re:Planning commission biased as always (4, Funny)

Megane (129182) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014974)

You haven't heard the news? They're planning to build an interstellar bypass through there. The plans have been on file at Alpha Centauri for years. It's not their fault if you haven't been around to check them.

Re:Planning commission biased as always (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31016070)

They were required to by law, since it's next to the interstellar penitentiary.

Re:Planning commission biased as always (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31016622)

They could have at least the decency of adding a "You are here". I'm sincerely lost!

Something is missing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31014910)

I don't see Mornington Crescent anywhere on that map...

I don't get the kind of people, who call sun "sol" (-1, Troll)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 4 years ago | (#31014950)

First he uses English, but for the sun he uses the Latin “sol”.
I don’t know, but there’s something common to people who do that. And I really don’t like it.
I guess it’s, when the only point in using that word, is to make you look as if you were something better, that it disgusts me.
Not because it actually has some special meaning (like “lateral’), but just for saying “I’m better than you.”

Re:I don't get the kind of people, who call sun "s (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31015006)

Sol is the sun's official name. "The sun" is colloquial. I suspect that when we have colonists on other planets, they will probably refer to their star as "The sun" in day-to-day conversation rather than talking about "Alpha Centairi B-shine today" in the weather.

Re:I don't get the kind of people, who call sun "s (1)

Tangent128 (1112197) | more than 4 years ago | (#31015106)

Last I heard, "The Sun" and "The Moon" were in fact the official terms. Ironic that astronomers can be a tad geocentric like that.

"Sol" and sometimes "Luna" are just overwhelmingly popular sci-fi terms, but yes, probably would be the terms eventually adopted by colonists.

Re:I don't get the kind of people, who call sun "s (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31015418)

Last I checked, neither our sun nor our moon have official names, but they are colloquially called The Sun and The Moon. However, given that there are an awfully large number of suns and moons, those seem to be silly names once you leave the earth. Sol and Luna seem the most logical to me.

Re:I don't get the kind of people, who call sun "s (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016422)

Last I checked, neither our sun nor our moon have official names, but they are colloquially called The Sun and The Moon. However, given that there are an awfully large number of suns and moons, those seem to be silly names once you leave the earth. Sol and Luna seem the most logical to me.

Except I believe "sol" and "luna" simply mean "sun" and "moon", respectively - it's just they're not English words. So you're basically telling people to replace those "silly" English names with equivalently silly - and equally non-descriptive - non-English names.

Re:I don't get the kind of people, who call sun "s (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016994)

they are colloquially called The Sun and The Moon. However, given that there are an awfully large number of suns and moons, those seem to be silly names once you leave the earth.

Not really. Ganymede is a moon. When I refer to The Moon, I mean the one that goes round the planet I'm standing on.

Just like if I'm in London and I refer to "The Queen", I mean Lizzy the kraut and not Beatrix the cheesehead.

Re:I don't get the kind of people, who call sun "s (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31015064)

Sure, sol is the Latin word for star, but "Sol" is the NAME of OUR star. We call it "the Sun" because when folks thought "the Earth" was flat and "the Universe" revolved around it, they didn't realize that those stars we can see at night are the same kind of thing as "the Sun". If they had, the might have called it "Our Star", or something stupid. Once we got to that point of understanding, a real name (other than "the Sun") was required.

I think "The Moon" is called "Luna" for similar reasons.
And "The Earth/World" is called "Terra" or "Sol 3"

Think of a Martian looking at his "moons". You think he would call it The Moon 1 and The Moon 2? At least we gave them separate names.

Re:I don't get the kind of people, who call sun "s (1)

cmiller173 (641510) | more than 4 years ago | (#31015446)

Think of a Martian looking at his "moons". You think he would call it The Moon 1 and The Moon 2? At least we gave them separate names.

Naturally any self respecting Martian would refer to them as Thuria and Cluros.

Re:I don't get the kind of people, who call sun "s (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016776)

What do you expect from a planet full of beings so low in self-esteem that they named their planet after dirt.

... send me back to esidarap.

Shut up, you stupid wanker (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 4 years ago | (#31017134)

they didn't realize that those stars we can see at night are the same kind of thing as "the Sun". If they had, the might have called it "Our Star", or something stupid.

Why is that stupid? It's pretty accurate.

Once we got to that point of understanding, a real name (other than "the Sun") was required.

Why? The Sun = the one we orbit. Suns/stars = all the other ones. Merely substituting "Sol" for "The Sun" adds nothing other than a veneer of intellectuality over a thick layer of pretentiousness.

I don't see what ambiguity this is trying to prevent. It's totally obvious from the context. Even a two year old gets this. He knows that when he says "daddy" it means a different person to when his friend says it.

Re:I don't get the kind of people, who call sun "s (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31015148)

I don't get the kind of people who use commas where they're not needed. There's something common to people who do that. And I really don't like it.

Re:I don't get the kind of people, who call sun "s (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31015494)

How many times have you uttered the words eg. 'solar panel', 'solar eclipse', 'solar flare', 'solar wind', 'solstice', 'solarium', 'solar system' and the list goes on and on...?

Re:I don't get the kind of people, who call sun "s (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31015600)

There are a lot of suns. Sol is the name of ours. He's not better than you, just more educated and less snarky.

Re:I don't get the kind of people, who call sun "s (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31016818)

I thought the "serious" reason behind "Sol" was the potential ambiguity of the term "sun". I think the group of people you dislike are "pedants".

But since I didn't mean this to be a serious post ... I think the common thread you are looking for is that anybody who ever played Star Control 2 would call the Sun "Sol" when looking at a star map :-P

Re:I don't get the kind of people, who call sun "s (1)

icegreentea (974342) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016914)

Presumably if we ever get around to colonizing different star systems, each star system will call that star in the middle of the system "the sun" instead of whatever astronomical name we give it now. I would find it retardedly annoying to constantly go "Man, Tau Ceti is sure bright today, better stay inside or else you'll get Tau Ceti-burn", and just use sun instead. Which leaves us with what the fuck do we call the Sun that the homeplanet orbits? So we take huge ass hint from science fiction and call it Sol.

Ah, Asteroids - the icebergs of the sky (2, Funny)

uberjack (1311219) | more than 4 years ago | (#31015218)

If we swerve wildly around those, we might get some sort of gravity-boost or something

Real Patriotic Milky Wayians... (1)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 4 years ago | (#31015362)

Don't use stupid Intergalactic Public Mass-Transit, Instead they drive their Space SUVs and Space Hummers all over the place spreading Nebula Gasses all over the galaxy leading to Galactic Warming....

Re:Real Patriotic Milky Wayians... (1)

xaxa (988988) | more than 4 years ago | (#31015972)

There's plans to introduce a galactic congestion charge, so make the most of it while you can.

Last time I used my spaceship I spent ages waiting for a space to park, the orbits are so full nowadays.

Useful for...? (1)

braindrainbahrain (874202) | more than 4 years ago | (#31015364)

There is a tiny bit of truth to the map...but just a tiny bit.

If using a Bussard ramjet [wikipedia.org], it might be usefult to stay in the galactic arms where there would be more interstellar matter for your engine. If you take a shortcut across the arms, you may not encounter enough mass to accelerate to the velocity you want.

Of course, the difference between 0.99% of c and 0.999% of c may not matter that much considering your voyage will last longer than your galactic civilization.

hey cmdrdickhead (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31015404)

i linked this article to my facebook and i didn't use the slashdork link. it's a constant complaint around here about linking an article to a blog about an article. well, fuck you up the ass. it's pretty low of you to try to drum up traffic when you don't provide any real original content.

FUCK SLASHDOT

We're doomed! (1)

sconeu (64226) | more than 4 years ago | (#31015520)

This is the first attempt at the Total Perspective Vortex! Now all they need is some fairy cake!

This map is completely unreliable (3, Funny)

Token_Internet_Girl (1131287) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016162)

I don't see the systems for Terminus, Vulcan, or Hoth anywhere on the map!

Re:This map is completely unreliable (3, Funny)

cmiller173 (641510) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016350)

IIRC Hoth is in a "Galaxy far far away..." which would be outside the scope of this map. Please step down the concourse to the intergalactic departures desk for the assistance you need.

Tubes? (2, Insightful)

Monkey_Genius (669908) | more than 4 years ago | (#31016598)

Please. No one needs tubes. All one needs is a little spice to fold space --and possibly some 'Juice of Saphoo' for the trip.

3D please (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31017162)

2D maps do a poor job of indicating any thing in 3D space.

Map posted at the wrong location. (1)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 4 years ago | (#31017204)

This map is not supposed to be posted on the internet. It is supposed to be taped to underside of bottom drawer of a filing cabinet in a disused toilet in the dark unlit basement without stairs guarded by a leopard in the municipal building in Alpha Centauri.
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