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Nexus One First Phone Linus Torvalds "Doesn't Hate"

CmdrTaco posted more than 4 years ago | from the it-ain't-half-bad dept.

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SpuriousLogic writes "Linus Torvalds, the inventor of the Linux kernel, has an absolute disdain for mobile phones. All of the ones he has purchased in the past, the man writes on his personal blog, ended up being 'mostly used for playing Galaga and Solitaire on long flights' even though they were naturally all phones run on open source operating systems. Things have changed now, he adds, now that he has caved and bought Google's Nexus One a couple of days ago."

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He bought one? (3, Interesting)

suso (153703) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061494)

Why? I mean the man is responsible for the free kernel that the phones use. The least companies could do is send him a free one with service contract. I thought Linus did get gifts like that.

Re:He bought one? (5, Funny)

Philip K Dickhead (906971) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061528)

Hell. Now even Linus is slave to the Google panopticon.

Hope you like your new, NSA hotline, Mr. Torvalds!

Linus Does Lucy 8 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31061556)

Yeah, Mr. Linux does porn now. Just wasting your puny mod point, idiot moderator. By modding me down, you make me stronger than you could ever imagine, Lord ModerVader (pronounce like moderator)

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Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31061768)

Mod me down!
 
...like feeding crumbs to the pigeons...

MOD PARENT UP!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31061986)

Racists!

MOD PARENT UP (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31062272)

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Re:Linus Does Lucy 8 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31062294)

fail

We knew... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31061596)

We knew alread that Google is the NSA. Everything else just doesn't make sense.

Re:He bought one? (1)

chill (34294) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061930)

What is this "new" of which you speak?

but... (1)

leuk_he (194174) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061608)

SUpposed you got a mail from bill gates asking for a phone from your company because your phone factory has made a phone running windows mobile on it. What would you do?

==
PS, Google is a member of the linux foundation which is the current employer of linus. So in a way google already paid for the phone.

Re:but... (1)

simcop2387 (703011) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061640)

send him a bill, the rich bastard can afford to pay it.

Re:but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31061642)

Send it along, COD of course.

Re:but... (5, Insightful)

nacturation (646836) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061756)

SUpposed you got a mail from bill gates asking for a phone from your company because your phone factory has made a phone running windows mobile on it. What would you do?

The point is that famous people generally don't ask... they get sent stuff unsolicited a fair bit. At the Oscars, when you hear of someone's $100,000 necklace from Saks Fifth Avenue, do you really think the celebrity went out and spent their own money on that necklace? Hell no... that's Saks renting it (perhaps gifting it for smaller items) and getting free promotion. Saks is hoping all the non-famous rich people who watch the Oscars go out and buy the necklace.

In Linus' case, however, perhaps he's critical enough about phones that it's actually a risk to send him one. If he writes a bad review, the company who manufactures it and sent it to him has just shot itself in the foot.

Re:but... (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061876)

Send him a reply asking for a job as his sycophant/prostitute-acquisition-manager?

Re:but... (2, Funny)

Airline_Sickness_Bag (111686) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062144)

This is about Linus Torvalds, not Tiger Woods.

Re:but... (1)

simoncpu was here (1601629) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061968)

If he asked politely and made it clear that he won't be getting something from nothing, I'll just send him a demo phone with a nice accompanying letter that tells him that our company appreciates an OS that would make our applications run optimally if they could provide us with this and that features.

I know this is Slashdot, but how much does a demo phone cost? How much could we benefit from a partnership? Do all commercial partnerships need to have the same principles, or do they just need to mutually agree on things that would benefit them both?

Re:He bought one? (1)

suffix tree monkey (1430749) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061636)

The least companies could do is send him a free one with service contract.

Well, it's not technically Linux these phones use, as it's now an incompatible Linux fork [slashdot.org] . So, I guess like the authors of this article, the company told Linus to go fork himself [reghardware.co.uk] .

Re:He bought one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31061708)

Yes it is. Do you think Red Hat's kernel isn't Linux because RH add their own bits to their distributed version?

Re:He bought one? (1)

bain_online (580036) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062042)

Well the difference is that RH mostly tries to get those changes back in to the mainline. And many RH devs are working close with upstream.
Google on the other hand just got kicked out because they showed no interest.

Re:He bought one? (4, Informative)

BlackCreek (1004083) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061926)

Linus appears to have less hysterical take on the Android Linux fork [blogspot.com] than most people:

I don't worry about out-of-tree development for odd devices too much. I wish we could merge android, but I also accept it likely being a few years away. We had similar out-of-tree issues with the SGI extreme scalability stuff, and it took quite a while before the standard kernel merged all of that.

Re:He bought one? (1)

eihab (823648) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062314)

Linus appears to have less hysterical take on the Android Linux fork [blogspot.com] than most people

Very smart your argument! I also wait Android Linux Fork hear in Brazil!

This [blogspot.com] ought to be a new Slashdot meme.

Re:He bought one? (4, Informative)

GooberToo (74388) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062330)

Well, it's not technically Linux these phones use, as it's now an incompatible Linux fork. So, I guess like the authors of this article, the company told Linus to go fork himself.

Well, what you're saying is not technically true either.

These phones absolutely do run the Linux kernel and anyone who says otherwise is misleading at best and trolling at worst. Period. Just because a single device driver was recently removed from the official source tree does not suddenly make the kernel any less Linux. To suggest that's the case is ignorance or stupidity.

The reality is, Android uses their own driver for power management. Their design stinks. They've refused to maintain it in the official source tree. The stinking, unmaintained driver was removed. Despite no longer being maintained in the official source tree, Google continues to maintain it in their own kernel tree - which is freely accessible to all. This was all previously covered here on /. Having said all that, it is extremely common for external drivers to be maintained outside of the official source tree for a variety of reasons. This is one of the primary reasons the dkms project exists.

Furthermore, since the source portion of Android's framework which accesses the power management driver is freely available, if someone wanted to, they could easily change the internal implementation to use Linux's official power management interface rather than Google's driver. Battery life is likely to only slightly suffer. And with small improvements to Linux's existing power management infrastructure, to bring it more in line with Google's implementation goals, battery life parity can be achieved while maintaining full Android compatibility.

At the end of the day, removal of the driver from the official source tree changes nothing for anyone.

Re:He bought one? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31061874)

I love how smug he is in saying "the fact that it's a phone is secondary"

What a douche.

Telephone call quality and reliability first for me, Galaga and "that pinch-to-zoom thing" second...

Re:He bought one? (1)

2short (466733) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062376)

<quote><p>I love how smug he is in saying "the fact that it's a phone is secondary"</p><p>What a douche.</p><p>Telephone call quality and reliability first for me, Galaga and "that pinch-to-zoom thing" second...</p></quote>

So wanting different things than you makes someone a douche? What a douche.

If I'm going to bother carrying the thing around, it may as well be a phone, but that's well beyond second in my feature priority list. YMMV.

Re:He bought one? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31061918)

I think you'll find he's actually called GNU/Linus Torvalds - he's only responsible for the kernel, not the hardware, service contracts or any free gifts.

So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving? (1)

filesiteguy (695431) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061510)

You'd think that a guy like Linus would at least have an in-dash GPS unit so he's not distracted while behind the wheel futzing with the phone.

Hopefully, he's not also eating a cheeseburger while inputting addressess...

Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving? (0)

mdm-adph (1030332) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061570)

I wouldn't think so -- I always thought of Linus as a rather low-tech guy, at least in daily life.

We are talking about the guy who once said that Linux on anything other than big iron was stupid, right?

Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving? (4, Insightful)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061658)

Citation Needed

Considering I don't know of anyone who would ever call x86 anything 'big iron', I find it hard to believe a guy who started writing a kernel for himself at home on a 386 PC would say something like that.

Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving? (3, Informative)

ezzzD55J (697465) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062086)

big iron != bare metal, which is what GP presumably meant.

Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving? (1)

filesiteguy (695431) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062022)

IIRC, his original usenet quote was, "hello everybody out there using minix - I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones."

LOL!

Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving? (2, Informative)

Professor_UNIX (867045) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062074)

How is using the Nexus One as a GPS any different than a dedicated GPS unit? It has voice input and turn-by-turn voice prompts just like a "real" GPS so there's no need to touch it once you set it in the car dock. The experience of these post-2.0 Android phones is a lot different than the lousy Google Maps feature you'd find in lesser phones like an iPhone.

Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving? (4, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062102)

Most "in dash" GPs's are inferior than a $99.00 pocket cheapie.

Why? well the Updates for in dash units are typically so outlandish that nobody buys them A buddy of mine has a BMW 525i that it will cost him $399.00 for the map data update discs, he bought a pocket garmin unit he stuck to the windshield.. I buy a new $99.00 garmin yearly and that not only gives me a new map data set, but new hardware to boot!
  Plus I get POI data. press one button and it will tell me that the next two exits have gas stations and restaurants..

Nope, it's dumb to spend a couple grand on an in dash unit and then pay out the butt yearly for updates.

Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving? (4, Funny)

Score Whore (32328) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062200)

Nope, it's dumb to spend a couple grand on an in dash unit and then pay out the butt yearly for updates.

You know, when people are reaching back behind themselves whenever they need money... they're not digging around in their asses. They have this thing called a wallet and you put money in it. Then you put the wallet in your pocket. And thus you see people reaching back whenever they need some cash.

It's a lot easier than stuffing rolls of coins and wads of cash up your rectum. More hygienic too.

Re:So he uses the phone for GPS While Driving? (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062148)

so instead he can be distracted by the in-dash gps?

He hates mobile phones?! (5, Funny)

SaidinUnleashed (797936) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061548)

How can a Finnish man hate mobile phones?! Aren't they like the national bird there, or something?

Re:He hates mobile phones?! (3, Funny)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061614)

Yea you would think the would have an N900 wouldn't you?
He has sold out his own birth Nation! How dare he!
Naw it is just a phone and the Nexus one is a pretty nice one at that.

Re:He hates mobile phones?! (5, Interesting)

Jazzbunny (1251002) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061946)

He has same pragmatic approach to the issue as you do. At his blog here [blogspot.com] he said:

everybody: my dad got himself a N900, so there's one in the family. Don't worry about it, there's room for more than one Linux phone.
I like the Nexus One, maybe I'd like the N900 too. But I certainly don't like cellphones enough to have two.

Re:He hates mobile phones?! (3, Informative)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062140)

Dude, as a phone the N900 lacks a LOT. I was able to sell mine on Ebay to buy a unlocked Nexus One.

I tried to love the N900, as I loved my N710. but it's clunky.

This is coming from a guy that has been die-hard Nokia forever. I tried like heck to love my Nokia 5800 xpressmusic phone. it had a great idea, but was only half there. They almost made it, but not close enough for me to suffer using it day in and day out.

Re:He hates mobile phones?! (1)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062228)

But it is a Nokia that runs Linux....
Never mind..

Re:He hates mobile phones?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31061622)

Well, Nokias best phones has always been the "it's just a phone" phones, like the 3310/30 etc. Maybe that's Linus' style too.

Other age. (1)

leuk_he (194174) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062000)

Linus is 40, In ohter words, in the first 20 year of his life mobile phones only lived as very bulky carphones, and for a long time after that the calling cost were quite pricy. Only the last 10 year or so mobiles phones became main-stream. Some people still live with the believe you have to be reachable all the time. This may be hard to grasp for generation now that grew up with mobile phones.

Re:Other age. (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062190)

I don't really see it, even in the case of US which has relatively low cellphone penetration of 90%.

(relatively low compared to most of European countries, where more than 100% is the norm; with Finland at 130%)

Re:Other age. (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062268)

(relatively low compared to most of European countries, where more than 100% is the norm; with Finland at 130%)

Do people really have more than one cell phone? Or does 'penetration' mean something different in this context?

If it indeed is so, don't bother to explain it. I will just sit quietly and bask in my ignorance.

Re:Other age. (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062326)

It means "active cellphone numbers", links to sources covering most of the world here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_penetration_rate [wikipedia.org]

Having a private number and a job issued one isn't that unheard of. Or the second for safer communication with lover/etc....

Re:Other age. (1)

pnewhook (788591) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062414)

I think he meant even dead people have cellphones. Just like all those dead people voted for Bush.

Re:He hates mobile phones?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31062130)

In order to understand Linus' aversion to phones you have to take into account the following:

1. Linus belongs to a Swedish-speaking minority.*
2. Linus' wife Tove is a six-time Finnish national karate champion. In 1993 she took a course Linus was teaching and when Linus asked the students to send him an e-mail as a test, Tove sent him an e-mail asking for a date (and threatening to break his geeky body worse than his boot loader, should he refuse).**

* Try ordering pizza in Swedish in Finland and see what you get.
** Tove is keen on knowing where Linus is every breathing second and she checks his phone for suspicious calls and messages (supposedly to protect him from crazy stalkers), so Linus prefers not to use the phone, if possible. He carries a mobile phone as an electronic bracelet / controller device controlled by Tove. He's hoping to hack Nexus One to fool Tove, but Linus' hacking is no match for Tove's karate chopping. Poor bastard.

Re:He hates mobile phones?! (1)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062384)

And now I understand why he spends all of his waking hours programming.

Why (4, Insightful)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061586)

I am supposed to care about his opinion of smart phones why? I mean I will be happy to listen to anything he has to say about the Linux Kernel. I would pay to hear him talk about the early days of Linux development, but his thoughts on smart phones? What could possibly make me care?

Re:Why (5, Insightful)

Xanator (1740516) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061668)

you dont have to care, he just gave his opinion like you are giving it right now.

Re:Why (1, Insightful)

3dr (169908) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061778)

Ditto.

ObCarAnalogy: It's like listening to the Woz yammer on about how he doesn't understand how cruise control systems work.

Re:Why (2, Interesting)

pinkj (521155) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061896)

I hate mobile phones too. I've refused to have one for most of my life. And if a person, be it Linus or anyone else, hates mobile phones as much as I do and likes the Nexus One, I'll listen.

Re:Why (4, Insightful)

Draek (916851) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061976)

You're not "supposed" to care, it's just that a lot of us do as result of him being a celebrity among geeks. Besides, his viewpoint is more likely to be closer to ours, as a fellow geek, than that of Steve Jobs or any such marketeer that gets published by pop media.

This article certainly raised *my* interest in the Nexus One. Not enough to buy it blindly, but at least give it some consideration along with the N900 I was eyeing before.

Re:Why (4, Insightful)

0racle (667029) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062060)

For the same reason we're supposed to care what celebrities think about foreign policy and medical procedures.

It's just more evidence of societies celebrity worship.

no (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062364)

you don't care about what celebrities think about foreign policy and medical procedures, because those are serious subject matters and the opinion holders are fluff

but you do care* what linus torvalds thinks of his mobile phone, because both the celebrity and the subject matter are fluff

*when i say "you do care" i am not saying you care in the same way you care about war with iran or flu shots causing autism, you care in the same way you care about whether batman could beat superman, or exactly how much jar jar binks sucks: light hearted fluffy subject matter you are emotionally invested in out of sheer shallowness on your own part. which is perfectly ok, since this is just a slashdot thread, and no one is deadly serious all the time

Re:Why (1)

Airline_Sickness_Bag (111686) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062282)

[i]I am supposed to care about his opinion of smart phones why?[/i]

You care enough to be reading this thread.

I'll sell you my copyrighted/patented hyper turbo method of saving time for only $699/cpu. Cash and credit cards only.

It's a simple but effective technique - Just don't click on threads you don't care about.

Re:Why (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31062320)

How much for a lesson in how to use HTML correctly?

Re:Why (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31062302)

If I have to listen to how many sheets of toilet paper Steve Jobs used on his last bowel movement, you can listen to how much "some random dude" likes a mobile phone.

Original blog post (5, Informative)

surmak (1238244) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061604)

here [blogspot.com]

... was glad to hear it ... (4, Interesting)

ninjagin (631183) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061628)

I don't share much in common with Linus except maybe the phone, but I got my N1 exactly because of how evolved android had become, how beefy the hardware specs were (I was building PCs with roughly the same specs 8 years ago), and because I preferred a phone not marketed to me with a direct tie-in with a carrier. Overtly unlocked? Yes, please. Granted, it's not for everyone, but it is my first smartphone and I'm glad I waited.

Green light! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31061630)

Gogogo, buybuybuy!! Let's endorse Nexus !

Torvalds' criteria for judgment (1)

Staniel (595001) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061634)

Apparently he judges phones by different standards than I do. It sounds like he wanted a traveling internet connection with a good interface. I personally prefer my tiny little Zoolander phone which plays music, calls people good and has a mediocre interface for checking email.

I know I'm old fashioned, but... (5, Interesting)

Carik (205890) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061680)

... most of my phones haven't had an OS that you could play Galaga or Solitaire on. Or really do much more than make a phone call.

Is it possible that the reason he hates phones is that he keeps buying computers masquerading as phones, rather than phones?

Also... he comments that he's always hated phones because they interrupt while he's trying to work or read. I don't know about anyone else, but if I don't want to be interrupted, I turn off the phone. The ringer, if it's a land-line, or the whole thing, if it's a cell. People can leave me a message and I'll listen to it later.

Basically, I can understand not liking the sound quality, or the microphone quality, or the weight, or the fact that it doesn't work anywhere you want to use it (all problems I've had in the past), but really... the things he's complaining about are issues with how he's using it, not with the phones. Maybe, like me, he's someone who just shouldn't have a cell phone, or should buy a small cheap one for emergency use, and not pay a monthly fee for it.

Re:I know I'm old fashioned, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31062020)

Give him a break. He's just another dude who like to whine and moan just like the rest of us dorks here.

arcade games (1)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061682)

I think most computers in general have been relegated to playing solitaire and Galaga, not just mobile phone platforms.

Mislabelled (4, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061736)


This phone shall be referred to as the "GNU/Nexus One with GNU/Linux".
Now excuse me, I have to comb my beard.

Richard

.

Re:Mislabelled (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31061832)

Only if GNU/Linus Torvalds says so...

Re:Mislabelled (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31061898)

Android is actually NOT GNU/Linux..

Re:Mislabelled (1)

chill (34294) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061998)

Now excuse me, I have to comb my beard.

You had me going until that part. Something like this would be more apt:

He stood up straight and looked the world squarely in the fields and hills. To add weight to his words he stuck the gnu/rabbit bone in his beard. He spread his arms out wide. "I will go mad!" he
announced.

Re:Mislabelled (3, Funny)

jareth-0205 (525594) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062068)

I call fake!

RMS has never combed his beard.

Gratz on the phone (0, Flamebait)

Xanator (1740516) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061752)

Linus still a normal guy who decides what to use if he likes it, hes not concerned if its propietary or free (i liked a lot his review on his linksys router), hes not a troll like Stallman who surfs the web using terminal lol

Is he relevant anymore? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31061776)

Is this guy even relevant anymore? I'm mean - seriously... wtf.

So that's who that is! (4, Funny)

noidentity (188756) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061796)

Linus Torvalds, the inventor of the Linux kernel, has an absolute disdain for mobile phones.

Finally, an article summary that explainings who some obscure person is, rather than assuming we know everyone in the tech universe.

Re:So that's who that is! (1)

martas (1439879) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062142)

please tell me you really are joking.

otherwise, leave this place and never come back.

Re:So that's who that is! (1)

jamesyouwish (1738816) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062344)

Is it Linux or Lynux?

Re:So that's who that is! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31062372)

What's a "Phone"?!?

A balance between geekness and ease of use (4, Interesting)

buruonbrails (1247370) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061822)

I expected Linus Torvalds to use something more geeky, e.g. N900 or one of OpenMoko devices, but in this case he has chosen user-friendliness instead of endless tinkering. Nexus One is probably one of the most user-friendly Linux-based devices to date (competing with WebOS devices in this respect), and it is very functional as well, so the choice seems obvious.

There is a lesson to learn there (4, Insightful)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061972)

...he has chosen user-friendliness instead of endless tinkering

The lesson is: Even people famous for endless tinkering still like a simple, clean user experience once in a while.

Design your software with this in mind.

Re:There is a lesson to learn there (4, Insightful)

Angst Badger (8636) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062188)

Even people famous for endless tinkering still like a simple, clean user experience once in a while.

Once in a while? I find that I want to tinker with the subjects in which I am most interested, and prefer drool-proof interfaces the rest of the time. FOSS at its (unusual) best makes tinkering possible but not necessary. Programs should work well off the shelf but be readily amenable to user modification if the user cares to.

Re:There is a lesson to learn there (1)

BESTouff (531293) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062286)

Or maybe the lesse is:

Linus has become too old to spend time tinkering with new hardware.

stupid Linus (2, Funny)

martas (1439879) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061826)

he could've made serious $$ if he charged google for expressing this opinion. imagine all the linux devotees who are going to buy it now. i mean, there's gotta be, like, at least 10 who can afford it!

Re:stupid Linus (3, Insightful)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061862)

Except as soon as anyone finds out that he accepted money for expressing his opinion, people will value his opinion a whole hell of a lot less.

Re:stupid Linus (1)

wjhoffman1983 (1145155) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062238)

Who said he didn't?

Re:stupid Linus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31062362)

Google can still hire him.

Growing respect to Linus (1)

VincenzoRomano (881055) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061846)

As Galaga and the solitaire are the only games woth playing, along with rougue-lke.

BREAKING NEWS (0, Troll)

Overunderrated (1518503) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061890)

Linux fanatic is an elitist. More at 11. TFA sounds like Torvalds has basically no experience with mobile phones. If he wanted multi-touch so bad, why didn't he try an iPhone or any other manner of non-GPL phone?

Re:BREAKING NEWS (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062182)

Yeah, I can't imagine why the inventor of Linux didn't buy Apple's product just for multi-touch. Very insightful, Overunderated.

Because iPhone multitouch sucks compared to nexus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31062354)

Because multitouch on the iPhone is TERRIBLE. I haven't used an iPhone yet where the touchscreen doesn't need recalibrating every 2-3 days, it goes out so often. That's not just my iPhone either, it's any friends with ones too, who have the same issue. In contrast the Nexus One uses some pretty decent touchscreen hardware that just doesn't seem to go out of calibration, at least not yet that I've seen.

Re:BREAKING NEWS (1, Interesting)

Overunderrated (1518503) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062400)

Right, So the man refuses to try any mobile device that isn't running Linux, and yet his opinion is considered relevant enough to warrant an article?

Maybe if the article was titled "Nexus One First *Linux* Phone Linus Torvalds "Doesn't Hate"" it'd be excusable.

hate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31061912)

ok so he dont hate it but doesnt love or like it yea same here.
WOO
still aint buying these peoples overprices calculators

Ahh, I think I've spotted his problem (1)

petes_PoV (912422) | more than 4 years ago | (#31061988)

mostly used for playing Galaga and Solitaire on long flights

He's confused a mobile phone for a games console. A surprising mistake really, considering how well-versed he is on most other technical fields. Personally, all I want from a phone is a few buttons that let me call people and a very, very long battery life. If I ever felt the need to play video games I'd use something that has a screen large enough that I didn't get annoyed at it - with Linus seems to, from his response.

Plagerism? (1)

gravis777 (123605) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062038)

Wow, Slashdot Plagerising a Washington Post article that is plagerising an article on Android Community. Practically word for word identical. Not sure if linking to the article is the same as providing citation. :-p

Re:Plagerism? (1)

martas (1439879) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062156)

my plager is ringing.

Re:Plagerism? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31062196)

Plagerism

Ow ow ow. Did they copy the spelling mistakes and s too?

Linus Torvalds' employee of Google? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31062040)

Isn't Linus Torvalds an employee of Google? Advocating his own employer's phone gives little weight. He is paid to say these kind words.

Only a couple of days (1)

Bill_the_Engineer (772575) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062198)

Things have changed now, he adds, now that he has caved and bought Google's Nexus One a couple of days ago."

It's only been a couple of days, let's see if he likes it after he had a chance to really use it. I speak from experience. I'm still have my android phone, but the only thing keeping me on the platform is T-Mobile.

Besides, why should we really care?

Re:Only a couple of days (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062380)

I still like my Android G1 (mostly for the hardware keyboard), but if the iPhone was available for T-Mobile, I would probably replace it. (Are you listening, Apple?) In theory, iPhone and Android have the same capabilities. In practice, not having multi-touch on the Android is a serious deficiency, and the software keyboard on the iPhone does a much better job of figuring out which key I meant to press than the Android software keyboard. Also, the G1 is slow to respond to touch input; hopefully this problem is fixed in the Nexus One with it's faster CPU and Android 2.0 software. On the flip side, not making the iPhone OS truly multitasking is inexcusable, and I keep expecting Apple to reverse this Custer decision. Currently neither phone is perfect; Google should license multi-touch, and Apple should support running multiple apps simultaneously.

Email support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31062338)

Does the version on Android on the N1 have a usable email client yet? I have an HTC Magic, and the email client is dreadful: base64 encodes all messages, automatically top posts with no option to disable, and fails to generate In-Reply-To/References headers so it breaks threading. It's very sad that apparently the easiest way to get an email client that doesn't try to humiliate you in public is to install an ssh client and run mutt remotely.

What a relief! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31062392)

Now all of you Linux fanboys won't have to think for yourselves!

Your God has chosen, and you will follow.

Warning: nitpicking geeky comment (0, Offtopic)

jeroen94704 (542819) | more than 4 years ago | (#31062398)

It always ticks me off when people talk about a piece of software as being "invented". One doesn't "invent" software. Software is designed, implemented, engineered, developed. All of those things, and more, but not "invented". Look it up in the dictionary.
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